jython-users — Discussion of and questions about using Jython

Re: [Jython-users] Jython 3?

[Yaqiang W. <yaq...@gm...>]

Jython 3 demand + 1.

Regards
Yaqiang

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 4:56 PM Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> wrote:

> Not soon. We can't put a date to it, but we continue to have Jython 3 as a
> goal.
>
> It is good to hear there is still a demand.
> On 07/07/2023 19:53, Shellman, Spencer D. (Contractor) via Jython-users
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Can I expect Jython 3.* anytime soon?  This would be extremely useful to
> me.  Thanks.
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Re: [Jython-users] Jython 3?

[Jeff A. <ja...@fa...>]

Not soon. We can't put a date to it, but we continue to have Jython 3 as 
a goal.

It is good to hear there is still a demand.

On 07/07/2023 19:53, Shellman, Spencer D. (Contractor) via Jython-users 
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Can I expect Jython 3.* anytime soon?  This would be extremely useful 
> to me.  Thanks.
>
>
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[Jython-users] Jython 3?

[Shellman, S. D. (Contractor) <Spe...@un...>]

Hi,

Can I expect Jython 3.* anytime soon?  This would be extremely useful to me.  Thanks.

[Jython-users] How to recover from https://github.com/jython/jython/issues/93

[Juniarti S. <jun...@ya...>]

Hi,
When I use jython2.7.2 I am hitting issue #93 <https://github.com/jython/jython/issues/93>.
I thought the fix is in jython2.7.3 but even after I am using jython2.7.3 the file permission behavior remains.

Is there anything else need to be done to have the file permission working as before jython2.7.2?

Here is how to demonstrate the regression issue in jython:
Using jython271
Jython 2.7.1 (default:0df7adb1b397, Jun 30 2017, 19:02:43)
[OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (Red Hat, Inc.)] on java1.8.0_372
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
">>> import copy"

Checking the permission of the newly compile script:
[root@juniredhat1 Lib]# ls -la copy*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28015 Jun 2 09:45 'copy$py.class' ===> NOTED THE FILE PERMISSION THE SAME AS THE SOURCE
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27996 Jun 30 2017 'copy$py.class.org'
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11519 Jun 30 2017 copy.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13490 Jun 2 09:45 'copy_reg$py.class'
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6800 Jun 30 2017 copy_reg.py

=========================================================================
Using jython273
Jython 2.7.3 (tags/v2.7.3:5f29801fe, Sep 10 2022, 18:52:49)
[OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (Red Hat, Inc.)] on java1.8.0_372
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
">>> import copy"

Checking the permission of the newly compile script:
-rw------- 1 root root 26875 Jun 2 09:48 'copy$py.class' ===> NOTED THE FILE PERMISSION GOT CHANGE AS ISSUE #93 <https://github.com/jython/jython/issues/93>
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26856 Sep 10 2022 'copy$py.class.org'
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11519 Sep 10 2022 copy.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12955 Sep 10 2022 'copy_reg$py.class'
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6800 Sep 10 2022 copy_reg.py

I opened GitHub issue https://github.com/jython/jython/issues/246 but no one has looked at it.

I am hoping, I will get quicker respond from posting it too. 

Can someone please help on this regression issue as it is breaking our customers?
Thank you,
Juni.

Re: [Jython-users] Java 17 and support for jython

[o lu <olu...@gm...>]

On 6/5/23 04:20, Jeff Allen wrote:
>
> Jython 2 is built with Java 8 and tested with Java 8 and Java 11.
>
> The backwards compatibility of Java versions is very high. The byte 
> code is stable. What varies slightly is the Java API, where methods 
> may have been removed, or others overloaded in ways that affect 
> exactly which is found during a call.
>
> ...
>
> Jeff
>
My (2¢) concern would be for newer features in Java like modules and, 
more recently, Virtual Threads and things of that nature.

Re: [Jython-users] Java 17 and support for jython

[Anamitra B. <abh...@us...>]

thanks a lot for all the great info - we will do an end to end test with Jython soon on java 17 - based on our use cases. Will post the results when we get there.

thanks
Anamitra Bhattacharyya
Maximo STSM
IBM Master Inventor
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Jython 2 is built with Java 8 and tested with Java 8 and Java 11. The backwards compatibility of Java versions is very high. The byte code is stable. What varies slightly is the Java API, where methods may have been removed, or others overloaded
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Jython 2 is built with Java 8 and tested with Java 8 and Java 11.

The backwards compatibility of Java versions is very high. The byte code is stable. What varies slightly is the Java API, where methods may have been removed, or others overloaded in ways that affect exactly which is found during a call.

I ran the regression tests on an installed 2.7.3 with Java 17. The expected result is explained here:

https://jython-devguide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/release_jy.html#installation-regrtest<https://jython-devguide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/release_jy.html#installation-regrtest>

With Java 17 I got an additional failure from test_httplib that is to do with header data not expected by the test. That may well be satisfactory for your application. You'll do your own tests, of course, and can repeat ours fairly easily.

There may be a 2.7.4 this year, and it may be tested with Java 17, but an eventual Jython 3 will get most of the time.

Jeff

On 04/06/2023 13:24, Oti wrote:
It starts:


➜  ~ java -version

openjdk version "17.0.7" 2023-04-18

OpenJDK Runtime Environment Temurin-17.0.7+7 (build 17.0.7+7)

OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Temurin-17.0.7+7 (build 17.0.7+7, mixed mode, sharing)

➜  ~ java -jar ~/Downloads/jython-standalone-2.7.3.jar

Jython 2.7.3 (tags/v2.7.3:5f29801fe, Sep 10 2022, 18:52:49)

[OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (Eclipse Adoptium)] on java17.0.7

Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

>>>



Best wishes,
Oti.


On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:15 PM Anamitra Bhattacharyya via Jython-users <jyt...@li...<mailto:jyt...@li...>> wrote:
havent tested it yet - we were contemplating a move to java 17 - and since the https://www.jython.org/download<https://www.jython.org/download> for 2.7.3 only lists java 8 and 11 - was not sure if there was another version that would be released for java 17. Not sure if anyone here have tried with java 17 - and any issues with jython 2.7.3 on that.
Downloads<https://www.jython.org/download>
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thanks
Anamitra Bhattacharyya
Maximo STSM
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Hi

just wondering if jython 273 supports java 17? From the jython.org<http://jython.org> website - its java 8 and java 11 - does not mention java 17. If not - is there a version of jython that is coming up that will support java 17?



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Re: [Jython-users] Java 17 and support for jython

[Jeff A. <ja...@fa...>]

Jython 2 is built with Java 8 and tested with Java 8 and Java 11.

The backwards compatibility of Java versions is very high. The byte code 
is stable. What varies slightly is the Java API, where methods may have 
been removed, or others overloaded in ways that affect exactly which is 
found during a call.

I ran the regression tests on an installed 2.7.3 with Java 17. The 
expected result is explained here:

https://jython-devguide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/release_jy.html#installation-regrtest

With Java 17 I got an additional failure from test_httplib that is to do 
with header data not expected by the test. That may well be satisfactory 
for your application. You'll do your own tests, of course, and can 
repeat ours fairly easily.

There may be a 2.7.4 this year, and it may be tested with Java 17, but 
an eventual Jython 3 will get most of the time.

Jeff

On 04/06/2023 13:24, Oti wrote:
> It starts:
>
> *➜**~*java -version
>
> openjdk version "17.0.7" 2023-04-18
>
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment Temurin-17.0.7+7 (build 17.0.7+7)
>
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Temurin-17.0.7+7 (build 17.0.7+7, mixed mode, 
> sharing)
>
> *➜**~*java -jar ~/Downloads/jython-standalone-2.7.3.jar
>
> Jython 2.7.3 (tags/v2.7.3:5f29801fe, Sep 10 2022, 18:52:49)
>
> [OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (Eclipse Adoptium)] on java17.0.7
>
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>
> >>>
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
> Oti.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:15 PM Anamitra Bhattacharyya via 
> Jython-users <jyt...@li...> wrote:
>
>     havent tested it yet - we were contemplating a move to java 17 -
>     and since the https://www.jython.org/download for 2.7.3 only lists
>     java 8 and 11 - was not sure if there was another version that
>     would be released for java 17. Not sure if anyone here have tried
>     with java 17 - and any issues with jython 2.7.3 on that.
>     Downloads <https://www.jython.org/download>
>     The Python runtime on the JVM
>     www.jython.org <http://www.jython.org>
>
>
>
>     thanks
>     Anamitra Bhattacharyya
>     Maximo STSM
>     IBM Master Inventor
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>     *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] RE: Java 17 and support for jython
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>     the case with detailed error/test case. From: Anamitra
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>     Hi
>
>     just wondering if jython 273 supports java 17? From the jython.org
>     <http://jython.org> website - its java 8 and java 11 - does not
>     mention java 17. If not - is there a version of jython that is
>     coming up that will support java 17?
>
>     thanks
>
>     Anamitra Bhattacharyya
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>
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Re: [Jython-users] Java 17 and support for jython

[Oti <oh...@gm...>]

It starts:

*➜  **~* java -version

openjdk version "17.0.7" 2023-04-18

OpenJDK Runtime Environment Temurin-17.0.7+7 (build 17.0.7+7)

OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Temurin-17.0.7+7 (build 17.0.7+7, mixed mode,
sharing)

*➜  **~* java -jar ~/Downloads/jython-standalone-2.7.3.jar

Jython 2.7.3 (tags/v2.7.3:5f29801fe, Sep 10 2022, 18:52:49)

[OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (Eclipse Adoptium)] on java17.0.7

Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

>>>



Best wishes,
Oti.



On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:15 PM Anamitra Bhattacharyya via Jython-users <
jyt...@li...> wrote:

> havent tested it yet - we were contemplating a move to java 17 - and since
> the https://www.jython.org/download for 2.7.3 only lists java 8 and 11 -
> was not sure if there was another version that would be released for java
> 17. Not sure if anyone here have tried with java 17 - and any issues with
> jython 2.7.3 on that.
> Downloads <https://www.jython.org/download>
> The Python runtime on the JVM
> www.jython.org
>
>
> thanks
> Anamitra Bhattacharyya
> Maximo STSM
> IBM Master Inventor
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> Are you saying it’s not working? Worth opening a ticket if that’s the case
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>
>
> Hi
>
> just wondering if jython 273 supports java 17? From the jython.org
> website - its java 8 and java 11 - does not mention java 17. If not - is
> there a version of jython that is coming up that will support java 17?
>
>
>
> thanks
>
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>
> Maximo STSM
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Re: [Jython-users] Java 17 and support for jython

[Chris C. <Chr...@ac...>]

Are you saying it's not working? Worth opening a ticket if that's the case with detailed error/test case.

From: Anamitra Bhattacharyya via Jython-users <jyt...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 11:50 AM
To: jyt...@li...
Subject: [Jython-users] Java 17 and support for jython

Hi
just wondering if jython 273 supports java 17? From the jython.org website - its java 8 and java 11 - does not mention java 17. If not - is there a version of jython that is coming up that will support java 17?

thanks
Anamitra Bhattacharyya
Maximo STSM
IBM Master Inventor

Re: [Jython-users] Java 17 and support for jython

[Anamitra B. <abh...@us...>]

havent tested it yet - we were contemplating a move to java 17 - and since the https://www.jython.org/download for 2.7.3 only lists java 8 and 11 - was not sure if there was another version that would be released for java 17. Not sure if anyone here have tried with java 17 - and any issues with jython 2.7.3 on that.
Downloads<https://www.jython.org/download>
The Python runtime on the JVM
www.jython.org


thanks
Anamitra Bhattacharyya
Maximo STSM
IBM Master Inventor
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Hi

just wondering if jython 273 supports java 17? From the jython.org website - its java 8 and java 11 - does not mention java 17. If not - is there a version of jython that is coming up that will support java 17?



thanks

Anamitra Bhattacharyya

Maximo STSM

IBM Master Inventor

[Jython-users] Java 17 and support for jython

[Anamitra B. <abh...@us...>]

Hi
just wondering if jython 273 supports java 17? From the jython.org website - its java 8 and java 11 - does not mention java 17. If not - is there a version of jython that is coming up that will support java 17?

thanks
Anamitra Bhattacharyya
Maximo STSM
IBM Master Inventor

[Jython-users] [Jython-dev] Jython 2.7.3 Released

[Jeff A. <ja...@fa...>]

The Jython Project is pleased to announce the general availability of 
Jython 2.7.3 at Sonatype. (https://search.maven.org/search?q=g:org.python)

This is a maintenance release that incorporates a number of bug-fixes, 
some kindly offered as PRs by users. It is identical to the recent 
release candidate (rc1) of about 2 weeks ago. Please report problems on 
the issue tracker (https://github.com/jython/jython/issues).

We are no longer inviting bugs at bugs.jython.org, which in due course 
will become read-only (as its python.org equivalent did this year). Bugs 
on the old tracker, whilst not entirely ignored, will not be migrated en 
masse to GitHub: if you care about one particularly, it would help us if 
you could raise it on GitHub, with a link to the b.j.o. entry.

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[Jython-users] Jython 2.7.3rc1 Released

[Jeff A. <ja...@fa...>]

The Jython Project is pleased to announce the availability of the first 
release candidate of Jython 2.7.3 at Sonatype. 
(https://search.maven.org/search?q=g:org.python)

This is a maintenance release that incorporates a number of bug-fixes, 
some kindly offered as PRs by users. The release candidate only includes 
one change from the beta. Please report problems on the issue tracker 
(https://github.com/jython/jython/issues).

If there are no show-stoppers, a 2.7.3 final will follow in about 2 weeks.

We are no longer inviting bugs at bugs.jython.org, which in due course 
will become read-only (as its python.org equivalent did this year). Bugs 
on the old tracker, whilst not entirely ignored, will not be migrated en 
masse to GitHub: if you care about one particularly, it would help us if 
you could raise it on GitHub, with a link to the b.j.o. entry.

Jeff

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Re: [Jython-users] Jython 2.7.3b1 Released

[Jeff M. <jef...@za...>]

Thanks for the updates Jeff! (Great write up in VSJ, as well.)

Jython is an amazing work, and I'm glad to see its still alive :)

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 3:25 AM Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> wrote:

> Further to the off-repo experimental work (VSJ) Jim references, as I
> became reasonably sure of the implementation approach, I migrated code to
> the "main" (not "master") branch of the Jython repo,. We will make "main"
> the default when Jython 3 is viable (agreed on jython-dev).
>
> See https://github.com/jython/jython/tree/main
>
> Where possible, the migration is a graft into prior work moved from Jython
> 2. For this reason, a lot of Jython 2 code waits unchanged on this branch
> in ~/src, but this folder is not referenced in the build. (~/core is where
> it's at.) I'm re-using even the core built-ins, but the problem of "new
> patch, old garment" means there is not much original but the shape, by the
> end of the replacement. As Jim says, I expect to re-use increasingly, with
> change only at the detailed level.
>
> I took a break to release 2.7.3, so as to honour the contributions people
> had made since 2.7.2,. I hope the beta is nearly adequate, so I can work
> mostly on VSJ and 3.8.
>
> Jeff
> On 11/07/2022 15:25, Jeff Mitchell wrote:
>
> Any update on Jython3? Every once in awhile I do a quick check and it
> seems pretty dead, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong git etc?
>
> https://github.com/jython/jython3 is years old .. just an experiment I
> gather
>
> The main git is https://github.com/jython/jython it appears; not sure if
> theres python 3 stuff mixed in there somewhere?
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 8:47 PM Yaqiang Wang <yaq...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your work on the Jython project and so it's great to see the
>> new version of Jython!  Hope Jython 3 will come soon!
>>
>> Regards
>> Yaqiang
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 3:31 AM Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> wrote:
>>
>>> The Jython Project is pleased to announce the availability of the first
>>> beta release of Jython 2.7.3, at Sonatype. (
>>> https://search.maven.org/search?q=g:org.python)
>>>
>>> This is a maintenance release that incorporates a number of bug-fixes,
>>> some kindly offered as PRs by users. Please try it out and report problems
>>> on the issue tracker (https://github.com/jython/jython/issues).
>>>
>>> If there are no show-stoppers, a 2.7.3rc1 will follow in no less than 4
>>> weeks and hopefully a 2.7.3 release by the end of August.
>>>
>>> We are no longer inviting bugs at bugs.jython.org, which in due course
>>> will become read-only (as it's python.org equivalent did this year).
>>> Bugs on the old tracker, whilst not entirely ignored, will not be migrated
>>> en masse to GitHub: if you care about one particularly, it would help us if
>>> you could raise it on GitHub, with a link to the b.j.o. entry.
>>>
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>> 46, Zhong-Guan-Cun South Avenue
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Re: [Jython-users] Jython 2.7.3b1 Released

[Jeff A. <ja...@fa...>]

Further to the off-repo experimental work (VSJ) Jim references, as I 
became reasonably sure of the implementation approach, I migrated code 
to the "main" (not "master") branch of the Jython repo,. We will make 
"main" the default when Jython 3 is viable (agreed on jython-dev).

See https://github.com/jython/jython/tree/main

Where possible, the migration is a graft into prior work moved from 
Jython 2. For this reason, a lot of Jython 2 code waits unchanged on 
this branch in ~/src, but this folder is not referenced in the build. 
(~/core is where it's at.) I'm re-using even the core built-ins, but the 
problem of "new patch, old garment" means there is not much original but 
the shape, by the end of the replacement. As Jim says, I expect to 
re-use increasingly, with change only at the detailed level.

I took a break to release 2.7.3, so as to honour the contributions 
people had made since 2.7.2,. I hope the beta is nearly adequate, so I 
can work mostly on VSJ and 3.8.

Jeff

On 11/07/2022 15:25, Jeff Mitchell wrote:
> Any update on Jython3? Every once in awhile I do a quick check and it 
> seems pretty dead, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong git etc?
>
> https://github.com/jython/jython3 is years old .. just an experiment I 
> gather
>
> The main git is https://github.com/jython/jython it appears; not sure 
> if theres python 3 stuff mixed in there somewhere?
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 8:47 PM Yaqiang Wang <yaq...@gm...> 
> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for your work on the Jython project and so it's great to
>     see the new version of Jython!  Hope Jython 3 will come soon!
>
>     Regards
>     Yaqiang
>
>     On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 3:31 AM Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> wrote:
>
>         The Jython Project is pleased to announce the availability of
>         the first beta release of Jython 2.7.3, at Sonatype.
>         (https://search.maven.org/search?q=g:org.python)
>
>         This is a maintenance release that incorporates a number of
>         bug-fixes, some kindly offered as PRs by users. Please try it
>         out and report problems on the issue tracker
>         (https://github.com/jython/jython/issues).
>
>         If there are no show-stoppers, a 2.7.3rc1 will follow in no
>         less than 4 weeks and hopefully a 2.7.3 release by the end of
>         August.
>
>         We are no longer inviting bugs at bugs.jython.org
>         <http://bugs.jython.org>, which in due course will become
>         read-only (as it's python.org <http://python.org> equivalent
>         did this year). Bugs on the old tracker, whilst not entirely
>         ignored, will not be migrated en masse to GitHub: if you care
>         about one particularly, it would help us if you could raise it
>         on GitHub, with a link to the b.j.o. entry.
>
>         -- 
>
>         Jeff Allen
>         The Jython Project
>
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>     Beijing, 100081
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Re: [Jython-users] Jython 2.7.3b1 Released

[Jim B. <jim...@py...>]

Jeff,

This is really awesome news! Glad for the hard work that it took to get to
this point.

- Jim

On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 1:31 PM Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> wrote:

> The Jython Project is pleased to announce the availability of the first
> beta release of Jython 2.7.3, at Sonatype. (
> https://search.maven.org/search?q=g:org.python)
>
> This is a maintenance release that incorporates a number of bug-fixes,
> some kindly offered as PRs by users. Please try it out and report problems
> on the issue tracker (https://github.com/jython/jython/issues).
>
> If there are no show-stoppers, a 2.7.3rc1 will follow in no less than 4
> weeks and hopefully a 2.7.3 release by the end of August.
>
> We are no longer inviting bugs at bugs.jython.org, which in due course
> will become read-only (as it's python.org equivalent did this year). Bugs
> on the old tracker, whilst not entirely ignored, will not be migrated en
> masse to GitHub: if you care about one particularly, it would help us if
> you could raise it on GitHub, with a link to the b.j.o. entry.
>
> --
>
> Jeff Allen
> The Jython Project
>
>

Re: [Jython-users] Jython 2.7.3b1 Released

[Jim B. <jim...@py...>]

Jeff M.,

I would take a look at Jeff A.'s work on
https://the-very-slow-jython-project.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html to
see the design notes and some implementation details for what could be
Jython 3 core. This represents a much more sustainable effort that fits
into current Java's capabilities, at the risk of taking a very long time to
complete. However, I would suspect that a lot of the current library code
could be reused in some way.

Lastly, I see you are also in the Boulder area.

- Jim

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 8:25 AM Jeff Mitchell <jef...@za...>
wrote:

> Any update on Jython3? Every once in awhile I do a quick check and it
> seems pretty dead, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong git etc?
>
> https://github.com/jython/jython3 is years old .. just an experiment I
> gather
>
> The main git is https://github.com/jython/jython it appears; not sure if
> theres python 3 stuff mixed in there somewhere?
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 8:47 PM Yaqiang Wang <yaq...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your work on the Jython project and so it's great to see the
>> new version of Jython!  Hope Jython 3 will come soon!
>>
>> Regards
>> Yaqiang
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 3:31 AM Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> wrote:
>>
>>> The Jython Project is pleased to announce the availability of the first
>>> beta release of Jython 2.7.3, at Sonatype. (
>>> https://search.maven.org/search?q=g:org.python)
>>>
>>> This is a maintenance release that incorporates a number of bug-fixes,
>>> some kindly offered as PRs by users. Please try it out and report problems
>>> on the issue tracker (https://github.com/jython/jython/issues).
>>>
>>> If there are no show-stoppers, a 2.7.3rc1 will follow in no less than 4
>>> weeks and hopefully a 2.7.3 release by the end of August.
>>>
>>> We are no longer inviting bugs at bugs.jython.org, which in due course
>>> will become read-only (as it's python.org equivalent did this year).
>>> Bugs on the old tracker, whilst not entirely ignored, will not be migrated
>>> en masse to GitHub: if you care about one particularly, it would help us if
>>> you could raise it on GitHub, with a link to the b.j.o. entry.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Jeff Allen
>>> The Jython Project
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Jyt...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-users
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>>
>>
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>> Chinese Academy of Meteorological Sciences (CAMS)
>> 46, Zhong-Guan-Cun South Avenue
>> Beijing, 100081
>> China
>>
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>>
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>
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>
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Re: [Jython-users] Jython 2.7.3b1 Released

[Jeff M. <jef...@za...>]

Any update on Jython3? Every once in awhile I do a quick check and it seems
pretty dead, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong git etc?

https://github.com/jython/jython3 is years old .. just an experiment I
gather

The main git is https://github.com/jython/jython it appears; not sure if
theres python 3 stuff mixed in there somewhere?


On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 8:47 PM Yaqiang Wang <yaq...@gm...> wrote:

> Thanks for your work on the Jython project and so it's great to see the
> new version of Jython!  Hope Jython 3 will come soon!
>
> Regards
> Yaqiang
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 3:31 AM Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> wrote:
>
>> The Jython Project is pleased to announce the availability of the first
>> beta release of Jython 2.7.3, at Sonatype. (
>> https://search.maven.org/search?q=g:org.python)
>>
>> This is a maintenance release that incorporates a number of bug-fixes,
>> some kindly offered as PRs by users. Please try it out and report problems
>> on the issue tracker (https://github.com/jython/jython/issues).
>>
>> If there are no show-stoppers, a 2.7.3rc1 will follow in no less than 4
>> weeks and hopefully a 2.7.3 release by the end of August.
>>
>> We are no longer inviting bugs at bugs.jython.org, which in due course
>> will become read-only (as it's python.org equivalent did this year).
>> Bugs on the old tracker, whilst not entirely ignored, will not be migrated
>> en masse to GitHub: if you care about one particularly, it would help us if
>> you could raise it on GitHub, with a link to the b.j.o. entry.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jeff Allen
>> The Jython Project
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Jython-users mailing list
>> Jyt...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-users
>>
>
>
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> Chinese Academy of Meteorological Sciences (CAMS)
> 46, Zhong-Guan-Cun South Avenue
> Beijing, 100081
> China
>
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>
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Re: [Jython-users] Jython 2.7.3b1 Released

[Yaqiang W. <yaq...@gm...>]

Thanks for your work on the Jython project and so it's great to see the new
version of Jython!  Hope Jython 3 will come soon!

Regards
Yaqiang

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 3:31 AM Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> wrote:

> The Jython Project is pleased to announce the availability of the first
> beta release of Jython 2.7.3, at Sonatype. (
> https://search.maven.org/search?q=g:org.python)
>
> This is a maintenance release that incorporates a number of bug-fixes,
> some kindly offered as PRs by users. Please try it out and report problems
> on the issue tracker (https://github.com/jython/jython/issues).
>
> If there are no show-stoppers, a 2.7.3rc1 will follow in no less than 4
> weeks and hopefully a 2.7.3 release by the end of August.
>
> We are no longer inviting bugs at bugs.jython.org, which in due course
> will become read-only (as it's python.org equivalent did this year). Bugs
> on the old tracker, whilst not entirely ignored, will not be migrated en
> masse to GitHub: if you care about one particularly, it would help us if
> you could raise it on GitHub, with a link to the b.j.o. entry.
>
> --
>
> Jeff Allen
> The Jython Project
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Jyt...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-users
>


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Beijing, 100081
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[Jython-users] Jython 2.7.3b1 Released

[Jeff A. <ja...@fa...>]

The Jython Project is pleased to announce the availability of the first 
beta release of Jython 2.7.3, at Sonatype. 
(https://search.maven.org/search?q=g:org.python)

This is a maintenance release that incorporates a number of bug-fixes, 
some kindly offered as PRs by users. Please try it out and report 
problems on the issue tracker (https://github.com/jython/jython/issues).

If there are no show-stoppers, a 2.7.3rc1 will follow in no less than 4 
weeks and hopefully a 2.7.3 release by the end of August.

We are no longer inviting bugs at bugs.jython.org, which in due course 
will become read-only (as it's python.org equivalent did this year). 
Bugs on the old tracker, whilst not entirely ignored, will not be 
migrated en masse to GitHub: if you care about one particularly, it 
would help us if you could raise it on GitHub, with a link to the b.j.o. 
entry.

-- 

Jeff Allen
The Jython Project

[Jython-users] Jython 3 and jsr223

[Anamitra B. <ana...@ya...>]

Hi I was going through the https://www.jython.org/jython-3-mvp.html and I was happy to see that the community is considering to continue supporting jsr223 spec for this. The link did not describe any timeline - was wondering if anyone here had more information about the timeline for this.thanksAnamitra

Re: [Jython-users] how to run jython coverage with an explicit java.exe?

[Jeff A. <ja...@fa...>]

Hi Hartmut. Thanks for experimenting with solutions.

I've never used coverage myself, but when I run jython (on Windows) it 
picks up the JVM on my path.

I do not understand why, in your account of the error, 
coverage-script.py is in the Jython bin directory. I would expect that 
to be in site-packages, or somewhere of its own, and the paths to 
modules it needs would then be on the sys.path. The error about not 
being able to find a module does not scream "wrong JVM" to me.

pkg_resources is in site-packages, as part of the pip installation we 
do. However, pip as a whole is broken for all versions of Jython thanks 
to changes at pypi.org and our slowness to adapt. pkg_resources is not 
necessarily affected.

Running the jython.jar directly may not work well because additional 
JARs you may need are precluded by the -jar option. The jython.exe 
launcher has a --print command that tells you what it would have done, 
which is useful when you need to roll your own command line. --help will 
tell you which environment variables it pays attention to in creating 
that command.

-- 

Jeff Allen

On 15/02/2022 10:33, Niemann, Hartmut wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I need to specify which java is used for a coverage run.
>
> I am using Jython 2.7.0 and coverage 3.4.3
>
> I used to use “coverage.exe” but how could I tell it which java to start?
>
> I succeded starting “jython.exe  coverage-script.py” , but same 
> problem: which java VM is used?
>
> I can run Jython with an explicit JAVA executable and some simple example
>
> %JAVA64% -jar "somepath\jython.jar" %JYTHON_DIR%\bin\hello.py
>
> But when I combine these to
>
> %JAVA64% -jar "C:\SIBAS32\JAVA_LIBS\jython\jython.jar" 
> %JYTHON_DIR%\bin\coverage-script.py
>
> I get
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>
>   File "C:\DEVTOOLS\Jython\2.7.0\bin\coverage-script.py", line 5, in 
> <module>
>
>     from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
>
> ImportError: No module named pkg_resources
>
> So I would need to convince coverage.exe or jython.exe to use the 
> Java.exe I want, or teach java.exe -jar … coverage-script.py where to 
> look for the pkg_resources directory.
>
> On
>
> https://www.jython.org/jython-old-sites/archive/21/docs/interpreter.html
>
> I found the sentence
>
> “jythonis a short script that invokes your local JVM, [..]”
>
> which unfortunately does not tell me how the JVM is selected from the 
> (four?) JVMs I have installed.
>
> What would you recommend?
>
> Regards
>
> Hartmut
>
>

[Jython-users] how to run jython coverage with an explicit java.exe?

[Niemann, H. <har...@si...>]

Hi!

I need to specify which java is used for a coverage run.

I am using Jython 2.7.0 and coverage 3.4.3

I used to use "coverage.exe" but how could I tell it which java to start?

I succeded starting "jython.exe  coverage-script.py" , but same problem: which java VM is used?

I can run Jython with an explicit JAVA executable and some simple example
%JAVA64% -jar "somepath\jython.jar" %JYTHON_DIR%\bin\hello.py

But when I combine these to

%JAVA64% -jar "C:\SIBAS32\JAVA_LIBS\jython\jython.jar" %JYTHON_DIR%\bin\coverage-script.py

I get
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\DEVTOOLS\Jython\2.7.0\bin\coverage-script.py", line 5, in <module>
    from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
ImportError: No module named pkg_resources

So I would need to convince coverage.exe or jython.exe to use the Java.exe I want, or teach java.exe -jar ... coverage-script.py where to look for the pkg_resources directory.

On
https://www.jython.org/jython-old-sites/archive/21/docs/interpreter.html
I found the sentence
"jython is a short script that invokes your local JVM, [..]"
which unfortunately does not tell me how the JVM is selected from the (four?) JVMs I have installed.

What would you recommend?

Regards
Hartmut

[Jython-users] Support for python 3

[Simon K. <sim...@do...>]

Dear Jython Users,

I can see that you have published a page with a roadmap to Jython 3 and that this question has been asked a few times in the past!

We use Jython in one of our products and some customers would like to have Python 3 scripting supported. So, can I ask about the status of Jython 3 and when support for Python 3 scripting might be released?

Many thanks,
Simon

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[Jython-users] Python doc generation from Java source

[Nicolas F. <ni...@pn...>]

Hello Jython users,

We use Jython to allow our customers to write extensions for our software
written in Java. The public code is accessible in a jar, say *a.jar*, and
the javadoc bundle for that jar is say, *a.zip*.

Users writing non-trivial Python script extensions would like to use
full-blown IDEs like Eclipse+pydev or PyCharm. I was wondering how to
integrate javadoc as Python documentation within those projects: can those
IDEs somewhat take the javadoc zip and figure out what doc entry to fetch
and how to convert it from the javadoc html format?

Example: a.jar contains com/abc/Foo.class; a.zip has a javadoc entry for Foo
from com.abc import Foo
a = Foo()

I would like the IDE to know that the doc for com.abc.Foo is located in the
javadoc zip archive, fetch it and offer it to the user.

Do you know of any existing IDE plugin that could do that?

Thank you,
--
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