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Re: [Jython-dev] funding jython development

[Jeff A. <ja...@fa...>]

Hi Albert:

That's a very generous offer that I'm sure we'd like to take up if it 
proves possible for you to obtain funding. We should talk about the 
specific objectives as part of the application.

Also, it's always interesting to hear what people are doing with Jython, 
where it provides a unique advantage, both your work and in Fiji.

It looks like the PyPy "JVM backend" is equivalent to our 
org.python.compiler package, using jasmin as an external program where 
we use ASM.

Jeff

Jeff Allen

On 08/03/2019 14:14, Albert Cardona wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Thank you very much for your work on jython and for kindly taking the
> time to answer my questions.
>
> I understand now that raising funds, which is within my means as an
> academic, to support a full-time developer for 2 years would be
> welcomed. Thank you very much for the encouragement. Realistically, it
> will take over a year from now, if successful, to get started. While I
> can make a convincing case for the use of jython within an academic
> environment when tied to e.g. Fiji, the grant funding cycle is slow.
> Finding a mature developer will also be hard, as within an academic
> environment salaries are limited and generally non-competitive with
> industry. But finding a junior or intermediate developer with
> experience in java and python, willing to dive into a 2-year stint to
> drive jython forward should be feasible.
>
> As an example of jython use in academia, I'd like to point here my
> image processing tutorial:
> https://www.ini.uzh.ch/~acardona/fiji-tutorial/
>
> I have found teaching python to academics is far easier than any of
> the many other alternatives. In my role as a professor in
> neuroscience, I intend to introduce jython into biology courses for
> senior undergraduates and for graduate students. The many libraries
> for the JVM for image processing and numerical computing in general
> are a great advantage; in particular, the extraordinary ImgLib2
> library https://github.com/imglib/ that abstracts data type,
> dimensions and location without a performance loss. And the excellent
> multithreading capabilities of the JVM, trivially accessible from
> jython, are essential and a killer feature regarding the choice of
> python+JVM over other options for modern processing of bioimagery,
> ranging from many gigabytes to tens or hundreds of terabytes. To point
> that modern scientific research in biology is very heavily dependent
> on imaging and subsequent image processing.
>
> On RPython: I was perhaps misled by the jvm translator, a library that
> I am not sure is or ever was part of the core RPython repository but
> that can be found here
> https://aecilius.cecs.anu.edu.au/mu/mu-client-pypy/tree/37ed6f826b4cdc1d8f8e732c22e24d380c762da9/rpython/translator/jvm
> .
>
> Will be testing 2.7.2 alpha and report back, hoping in this way to
> support jython development in the meanwhile, in addition to continue
> to write tutorials based on jython.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Albert
> --
> Group Leader, HHMI Janelia Research Campus, USA.
> Reader (Associate Professor), Dept. Physiol. Dev. Neurosci.,
> University of Cambridge, UK.
> https://albert.rierol.net
> https://www.janelia.org/lab/cardona-lab/
> https://www.pdn.cam.ac.uk/directory/albert-cardona
>
> Missatge de Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> del dia dv., 8 de març
> 2019 a les 9:18:
>> Hi Albert, thanks for your interest.
>>
>> 1. I'm an active developer, and a few others, either submitting code (https://hg.python.org/jython/) or answering on issues or the web site. It is fair to say momentum is low, but 2.7.2b looks within reach and I'd really like to get the fix you mention out there. (I was on the verge of re-assessing our "blockers".) When that is out for evaluation, by good folk like you, I intend to revivify Jython 3.
>>
>> 2. We are a Python Software Foundation project and grateful for the continuing support we get in terms of infrastructure. No money changes hands AFAIK: I'm not sure we would know what to do with actual funding. (The PSF might.) We are all volunteers: I am working entirely in my own time. Contributors in the past sometimes had employer support/time. New contributors would be a help, and we try to be supportive when someone drops in.
>>
>> 3. I don't properly understand your question 3. (So simple answer "No and er ... ".) I understand RPython to be a restricted dialect underlying the PyPy implementation, but have not delved further. What do you mean by "JVM backend" here? We make Java bytecode, but it depends on the Jython runtime. I believe there was a compiler to Java source once, but support stopped before I joined the project. I have a lot of alternative ideas for the Jython 3 runtime (we can do much better), but I also see value in continuity.
>>
>> Jeff Allen
>>
>> On 07/03/2019 14:39, Albert Cardona wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would like to see jython development moving forward, and I would
>> appreciate information on how to assist the existing jython developers
>> to do so.
>>
>> First towards completing the 2.7.2 release towards out of alpha (it
>> has a critical bug fix that I care a lot about:
>> https://bugs.jython.org/issue2487).
>>
>> Second towards entering python 3 with a stable release (I've only been
>> able to find https://github.com/jython/jython3 which is labels itself
>> as an early alpha stage).
>>
>> Question 1: are any developers active presently?
>>
>> Question 2: where do you get your funding from, and would you commit
>> to reach the above two milestones provided more funding was available,
>> or should I aim at recruiting new developers?
>>
>> Question 3: rpython (from pypy) used to have a jvm backend in its git
>> tree. I assume jython developers have considered pursuing that route,
>> and if not, why not?
>>
>> Thanks very much.
>>
>> Albert Cardona
>> --
>> Group Leader, HHMI Janelia Research Campus, USA.
>> Reader (Associate Professor), Dept. Physiol. Dev. Neurosci.,
>> University of Cambridge, UK.
>> https://albert.rierol.net
>> https://www.janelia.org/lab/cardona-lab/
>> https://www.pdn.cam.ac.uk/directory/albert-cardona
>>
>>
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[Jython-dev] Summary of Jython tracker Issues

[Jython t. <st...@bu...>]

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2019-03-01 - 2019-03-08)
Jython tracker at https://bugs.jython.org/

To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue.
Do NOT respond to this message.

Issues counts and deltas:
  open     328 ( -8)
  closed  2423 ( +8)
  total   2751 ( +0)

Open issues with patches: 27   


Most recent 15 issues with no replies (15)
==========================================

#2736: ensurepip fails with: pip 9.0.1 requires SSL/TLS
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2736

#2734: Re-work package scanning and cache for modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2734

#2723: Unusual behavior in SimpleCookie when '=' and '@'  is used in 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2723

#2722: run-time issue while trying to reach external endpoint (Weathe
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2722

#2720: wrap_scoket_exception: 'module' object has no attribute 'OP_NO
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2720

#2719: Divergence of __str__ and __repr__ from CPython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2719

#2713: Rounding a float field causes test_cpickle to fail
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2713

#2703: JycompileAntTask cannot find org.python.apache.tools.ant.taskd
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2703

#2698: urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error unknown url type: https>
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2698

#2697: name$py.class is ignored when in a JAR with name.py
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2697

#2684: WindowsError:[Error 123] The filename,directory name,or volume
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2684

#2680: Ignore Java accessibility rules selectively by package (Java 9
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2680

#2666: Imports in python from java do not work if there is a package 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2666

#2665: Standalone jar includes test classes
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2665

#2651: Travis Builds failing with *** buffer overflow detected ***
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2651



Most recent 15 issues waiting for review (15)
=============================================

#2635: AST.lineno ignored by compile
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2635

#2566: inspect does not recognize code objects from bytecode files
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2566

#2545: help() does not work on Java-implemented modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2545

#2429: cStringIO does not work with mutable objects implementing the 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2429

#2367: Jython ignores custom __eq__ when hashing dict subclasses
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2367

#2363: relative seeks works incorrectly after readline
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2363

#2330: full-build fails to copy CPython License
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2330

#2230: Jython evaluation blocks under heavy load with high multi-core
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2230

#2143: site-packages support in standalone jar
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2143

#2142: Set Thread classloader when entering Jython context
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2142

#2121: Jython jar on Maven central embeds other third party libraries
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2121

#2077: marshal doesn't raise error when fed unmarshalable object
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2077

#1925: Support loading java.sql.Drivers that aren't on the boot class
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1925

#1917: No ctypes.c_char
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1917

#1842: Add IBM i support to Jython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1842

Re: [Jython-dev] funding jython development

[Albert C. <sap...@gm...>]

Hi Jeff,

Thank you very much for your work on jython and for kindly taking the
time to answer my questions.

I understand now that raising funds, which is within my means as an
academic, to support a full-time developer for 2 years would be
welcomed. Thank you very much for the encouragement. Realistically, it
will take over a year from now, if successful, to get started. While I
can make a convincing case for the use of jython within an academic
environment when tied to e.g. Fiji, the grant funding cycle is slow.
Finding a mature developer will also be hard, as within an academic
environment salaries are limited and generally non-competitive with
industry. But finding a junior or intermediate developer with
experience in java and python, willing to dive into a 2-year stint to
drive jython forward should be feasible.

As an example of jython use in academia, I'd like to point here my
image processing tutorial:
https://www.ini.uzh.ch/~acardona/fiji-tutorial/

I have found teaching python to academics is far easier than any of
the many other alternatives. In my role as a professor in
neuroscience, I intend to introduce jython into biology courses for
senior undergraduates and for graduate students. The many libraries
for the JVM for image processing and numerical computing in general
are a great advantage; in particular, the extraordinary ImgLib2
library https://github.com/imglib/ that abstracts data type,
dimensions and location without a performance loss. And the excellent
multithreading capabilities of the JVM, trivially accessible from
jython, are essential and a killer feature regarding the choice of
python+JVM over other options for modern processing of bioimagery,
ranging from many gigabytes to tens or hundreds of terabytes. To point
that modern scientific research in biology is very heavily dependent
on imaging and subsequent image processing.

On RPython: I was perhaps misled by the jvm translator, a library that
I am not sure is or ever was part of the core RPython repository but
that can be found here
https://aecilius.cecs.anu.edu.au/mu/mu-client-pypy/tree/37ed6f826b4cdc1d8f8e732c22e24d380c762da9/rpython/translator/jvm
.

Will be testing 2.7.2 alpha and report back, hoping in this way to
support jython development in the meanwhile, in addition to continue
to write tutorials based on jython.

Best wishes,

Albert
--
Group Leader, HHMI Janelia Research Campus, USA.
Reader (Associate Professor), Dept. Physiol. Dev. Neurosci.,
University of Cambridge, UK.
https://albert.rierol.net
https://www.janelia.org/lab/cardona-lab/
https://www.pdn.cam.ac.uk/directory/albert-cardona

Missatge de Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> del dia dv., 8 de març
2019 a les 9:18:
>
> Hi Albert, thanks for your interest.
>
> 1. I'm an active developer, and a few others, either submitting code (https://hg.python.org/jython/) or answering on issues or the web site. It is fair to say momentum is low, but 2.7.2b looks within reach and I'd really like to get the fix you mention out there. (I was on the verge of re-assessing our "blockers".) When that is out for evaluation, by good folk like you, I intend to revivify Jython 3.
>
> 2. We are a Python Software Foundation project and grateful for the continuing support we get in terms of infrastructure. No money changes hands AFAIK: I'm not sure we would know what to do with actual funding. (The PSF might.) We are all volunteers: I am working entirely in my own time. Contributors in the past sometimes had employer support/time. New contributors would be a help, and we try to be supportive when someone drops in.
>
> 3. I don't properly understand your question 3. (So simple answer "No and er ... ".) I understand RPython to be a restricted dialect underlying the PyPy implementation, but have not delved further. What do you mean by "JVM backend" here? We make Java bytecode, but it depends on the Jython runtime. I believe there was a compiler to Java source once, but support stopped before I joined the project. I have a lot of alternative ideas for the Jython 3 runtime (we can do much better), but I also see value in continuity.
>
> Jeff Allen
>
> On 07/03/2019 14:39, Albert Cardona wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to see jython development moving forward, and I would
> appreciate information on how to assist the existing jython developers
> to do so.
>
> First towards completing the 2.7.2 release towards out of alpha (it
> has a critical bug fix that I care a lot about:
> https://bugs.jython.org/issue2487).
>
> Second towards entering python 3 with a stable release (I've only been
> able to find https://github.com/jython/jython3 which is labels itself
> as an early alpha stage).
>
> Question 1: are any developers active presently?
>
> Question 2: where do you get your funding from, and would you commit
> to reach the above two milestones provided more funding was available,
> or should I aim at recruiting new developers?
>
> Question 3: rpython (from pypy) used to have a jvm backend in its git
> tree. I assume jython developers have considered pursuing that route,
> and if not, why not?
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Albert Cardona
> --
> Group Leader, HHMI Janelia Research Campus, USA.
> Reader (Associate Professor), Dept. Physiol. Dev. Neurosci.,
> University of Cambridge, UK.
> https://albert.rierol.net
> https://www.janelia.org/lab/cardona-lab/
> https://www.pdn.cam.ac.uk/directory/albert-cardona
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Jython-dev mailing list
> Jyt...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev
>

Re: [Jython-dev] funding jython development

[Phil T. <ph...@tu...>]

Good morning Jeff, Albert,

On 3/8/19 4:18 AM, Jeff Allen wrote:
> Hi Albert, thanks for your interest.
> 
> 1. I'm an active developer, and a few others, either submitting code 
> (https://hg.python.org/jython/) or answering on issues or the web site. 
> It is fair to say momentum is low, but 2.7.2b looks within reach and I'd 
> really like to get the fix you mention out there. (I was on the verge of 
> re-assessing our "blockers".) When that is out for evaluation, by good 
> folk like you, I intend to revivify Jython 3.

This is encouraging news.

> 2. We are a Python Software Foundation project and grateful for the 
> continuing support we get in terms of infrastructure. No money changes 
> hands AFAIK: I'm not sure we would know what to do with actual funding. 
> (The PSF might.) We are all volunteers: I am working entirely in my own 
> time. Contributors in the past sometimes had employer support/time. New 
> contributors would be a help, and we try to be supportive when someone 
> drops in.

I am a small businessman (industrial systems integrator) with active 
java coding projects in an environment that uses jython as its 
customization layer.  I've spent a considerable amount of time and 
effort learning parts of the jython source for integration purposes. 
I've been lurking on this list for some time, as a tool to help absorb 
the bigger jython picture.

You can count this "drop in" as a statement of interest in contributing.

> 3. I don't properly understand your question 3. (So simple answer "No 
> and er ... ".) I understand RPython to be a restricted dialect 
> underlying the PyPy implementation, but have not delved further. What do 
> you mean by "JVM backend" here? We make Java bytecode, but it depends on 
> the Jython runtime. I believe there was a compiler to Java source once, 
> but support stopped before I joined the project. I have a lot of 
> alternative ideas for the Jython 3 runtime (we can do much better), but 
> I also see value in continuity.

Heh.  Never noticed RPython. /:

> Jeff Allen
> 
> On 07/03/2019 14:39, Albert Cardona wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would like to see jython development moving forward, and I would
>> appreciate information on how to assist the existing jython developers
>> to do so.
>>
>> First towards completing the 2.7.2 release towards out of alpha (it
>> has a critical bug fix that I care a lot about:
>> https://bugs.jython.org/issue2487).
>>
>> Second towards entering python 3 with a stable release (I've only been
>> able to findhttps://github.com/jython/jython3  which is labels itself
>> as an early alpha stage).
>>
>> Question 1: are any developers active presently?
>>
>> Question 2: where do you get your funding from, and would you commit
>> to reach the above two milestones provided more funding was available,
>> or should I aim at recruiting new developers?
>>
>> Question 3: rpython (from pypy) used to have a jvm backend in its git
>> tree. I assume jython developers have considered pursuing that route,
>> and if not, why not?
>>
>> Thanks very much.
>>
>> Albert Cardona

Regards,

Phil Turmel
Fayetteville, GA, USA

Re: [Jython-dev] funding jython development

[Jeff A. <ja...@fa...>]

Hi Albert, thanks for your interest.

1. I'm an active developer, and a few others, either submitting code 
(https://hg.python.org/jython/) or answering on issues or the web site. 
It is fair to say momentum is low, but 2.7.2b looks within reach and I'd 
really like to get the fix you mention out there. (I was on the verge of 
re-assessing our "blockers".) When that is out for evaluation, by good 
folk like you, I intend to revivify Jython 3.

2. We are a Python Software Foundation project and grateful for the 
continuing support we get in terms of infrastructure. No money changes 
hands AFAIK: I'm not sure we would know what to do with actual funding. 
(The PSF might.) We are all volunteers: I am working entirely in my own 
time. Contributors in the past sometimes had employer support/time. New 
contributors would be a help, and we try to be supportive when someone 
drops in.

3. I don't properly understand your question 3. (So simple answer "No 
and er ... ".) I understand RPython to be a restricted dialect 
underlying the PyPy implementation, but have not delved further. What do 
you mean by "JVM backend" here? We make Java bytecode, but it depends on 
the Jython runtime. I believe there was a compiler to Java source once, 
but support stopped before I joined the project. I have a lot of 
alternative ideas for the Jython 3 runtime (we can do much better), but 
I also see value in continuity.

Jeff Allen

On 07/03/2019 14:39, Albert Cardona wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to see jython development moving forward, and I would
> appreciate information on how to assist the existing jython developers
> to do so.
>
> First towards completing the 2.7.2 release towards out of alpha (it
> has a critical bug fix that I care a lot about:
> https://bugs.jython.org/issue2487).
>
> Second towards entering python 3 with a stable release (I've only been
> able to find https://github.com/jython/jython3 which is labels itself
> as an early alpha stage).
>
> Question 1: are any developers active presently?
>
> Question 2: where do you get your funding from, and would you commit
> to reach the above two milestones provided more funding was available,
> or should I aim at recruiting new developers?
>
> Question 3: rpython (from pypy) used to have a jvm backend in its git
> tree. I assume jython developers have considered pursuing that route,
> and if not, why not?
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Albert Cardona
> --
> Group Leader, HHMI Janelia Research Campus, USA.
> Reader (Associate Professor), Dept. Physiol. Dev. Neurosci.,
> University of Cambridge, UK.
> https://albert.rierol.net
> https://www.janelia.org/lab/cardona-lab/
> https://www.pdn.cam.ac.uk/directory/albert-cardona
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Jython-dev mailing list
> Jyt...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev
>

[Jython-dev] funding jython development

[Albert C. <sap...@gm...>]

Hi all,

I would like to see jython development moving forward, and I would
appreciate information on how to assist the existing jython developers
to do so.

First towards completing the 2.7.2 release towards out of alpha (it
has a critical bug fix that I care a lot about:
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2487).

Second towards entering python 3 with a stable release (I've only been
able to find https://github.com/jython/jython3 which is labels itself
as an early alpha stage).

Question 1: are any developers active presently?

Question 2: where do you get your funding from, and would you commit
to reach the above two milestones provided more funding was available,
or should I aim at recruiting new developers?

Question 3: rpython (from pypy) used to have a jvm backend in its git
tree. I assume jython developers have considered pursuing that route,
and if not, why not?

Thanks very much.

Albert Cardona
--
Group Leader, HHMI Janelia Research Campus, USA.
Reader (Associate Professor), Dept. Physiol. Dev. Neurosci.,
University of Cambridge, UK.
https://albert.rierol.net
https://www.janelia.org/lab/cardona-lab/
https://www.pdn.cam.ac.uk/directory/albert-cardona

Re: [Jython-dev] jython 2.7.1

[Stefan R. <ste...@gm...>]

The procedure I described in https://bugs.jython.org/issue2728 for guava
should work for bouncycastle in the same manner.
However, if there were backwards incompatible API changes in bouncycastle,
which I didn't check, these may require additional fixes.

-Stefan

Am Sa., 2. März 2019 um 01:35 Uhr schrieb Adam Burke <
ada...@gm...>:

> Hi Greg
>
> It should be fine to just try a jar swap.
>
> Not sure about the API compatibility across these particular bouncycastle
> versions though.
>
> Adam
>
> 在 2019年3月2日，上午6:22，Greg McDermott via Jython-dev <
> jyt...@li...> 写道：
>
> hi
>
> I see in your 2.7.1 release an old version of bouncycastle.
>
> $  unzip -l jython-installer-2.7.1.jar  | grep bcp
>     20354  2017-06-30 19:03   Lib/distutils/bcppcompiler$py.class
>     14941  2017-06-30 19:03   Lib/distutils/bcppcompiler.py
>    775948  2017-05-29 17:34   extlibs/bcpkix-jdk15on-1.57.jar
>   3759724  2017-05-29 17:34   extlibs/bcprov-jdk15on-1.57.jar
>    775948  2017-06-30 19:03   javalib/bcpkix-jdk15on-1.57.jar
>   3759724  2017-06-30 19:03   javalib/bcprov-jdk15on-1.57.jar
>
> are there plans to update to the latest, which is 1.6.1 currently.
> Can users simply update the jars directly for testing purposes,
> or are other changes needed.
>
> thanks
> Greg
>
>
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Re: [Jython-dev] jython 2.7.1

[Adam B. <ada...@gm...>]

Hi Greg

It should be fine to just try a jar swap. 

Not sure about the API compatibility across these particular bouncycastle versions though. 

Adam

> 在 2019年3月2日，上午6:22，Greg McDermott via Jython-dev <jyt...@li...> 写道：
> 
> hi
> 
> I see in your 2.7.1 release an old version of bouncycastle.
> 
> $  unzip -l jython-installer-2.7.1.jar  | grep bcp
>     20354  2017-06-30 19:03   Lib/distutils/bcppcompiler$py.class
>     14941  2017-06-30 19:03   Lib/distutils/bcppcompiler.py
>    775948  2017-05-29 17:34   extlibs/bcpkix-jdk15on-1.57.jar
>   3759724  2017-05-29 17:34   extlibs/bcprov-jdk15on-1.57.jar
>    775948  2017-06-30 19:03   javalib/bcpkix-jdk15on-1.57.jar
>   3759724  2017-06-30 19:03   javalib/bcprov-jdk15on-1.57.jar
> 
> are there plans to update to the latest, which is 1.6.1 currently.  
> Can users simply update the jars directly for testing purposes, 
> or are other changes needed. 
> 
> thanks
> Greg
> 
> 
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[Jython-dev] jython 2.7.1

[Greg M. <gre...@ya...>]

hi
I see in your 2.7.1 release an old version of bouncycastle.
$  unzip -l jython-installer-2.7.1.jar  | grep bcp
    20354  2017-06-30 19:03   Lib/distutils/bcppcompiler$py.class
    14941  2017-06-30 19:03   Lib/distutils/bcppcompiler.py
   775948  2017-05-29 17:34   extlibs/bcpkix-jdk15on-1.57.jar
  3759724  2017-05-29 17:34   extlibs/bcprov-jdk15on-1.57.jar
   775948  2017-06-30 19:03   javalib/bcpkix-jdk15on-1.57.jar
  3759724  2017-06-30 19:03   javalib/bcprov-jdk15on-1.57.jar
are there plans to update to the latest, which is 1.6.1 currently.  
Can users simply update the jars directly for testing purposes, 
or are other changes needed. 

thanksGreg

[Jython-dev] Summary of Jython tracker Issues

[Jython t. <st...@bu...>]

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2019-02-22 - 2019-03-01)
Jython tracker at https://bugs.jython.org/

To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue.
Do NOT respond to this message.

Issues counts and deltas:
  open     336 ( +0)
  closed  2415 ( +0)
  total   2751 ( +0)

Open issues with patches: 27   


Most recent 15 issues with no replies (15)
==========================================

#2736: ensurepip fails with: pip 9.0.1 requires SSL/TLS
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2736

#2734: Re-work package scanning and cache for modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2734

#2723: Unusual behavior in SimpleCookie when '=' and '@'  is used in 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2723

#2722: run-time issue while trying to reach external endpoint (Weathe
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2722

#2720: wrap_scoket_exception: 'module' object has no attribute 'OP_NO
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2720

#2719: Divergence of __str__ and __repr__ from CPython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2719

#2713: Rounding a float field causes test_cpickle to fail
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2713

#2703: JycompileAntTask cannot find org.python.apache.tools.ant.taskd
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2703

#2698: urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error unknown url type: https>
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2698

#2697: name$py.class is ignored when in a JAR with name.py
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2697

#2684: WindowsError:[Error 123] The filename,directory name,or volume
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2684

#2680: Ignore Java accessibility rules selectively by package (Java 9
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2680

#2666: Imports in python from java do not work if there is a package 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2666

#2665: Standalone jar includes test classes
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2665

#2651: Travis Builds failing with *** buffer overflow detected ***
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2651



Most recent 15 issues waiting for review (15)
=============================================

#2635: AST.lineno ignored by compile
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2635

#2566: inspect does not recognize code objects from bytecode files
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2566

#2545: help() does not work on Java-implemented modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2545

#2429: cStringIO does not work with mutable objects implementing the 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2429

#2367: Jython ignores custom __eq__ when hashing dict subclasses
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2367

#2363: relative seeks works incorrectly after readline
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2363

#2330: full-build fails to copy CPython License
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2330

#2230: Jython evaluation blocks under heavy load with high multi-core
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2230

#2143: site-packages support in standalone jar
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2143

#2142: Set Thread classloader when entering Jython context
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2142

#2121: Jython jar on Maven central embeds other third party libraries
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2121

#2077: marshal doesn't raise error when fed unmarshalable object
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2077

#1925: Support loading java.sql.Drivers that aren't on the boot class
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1925

#1917: No ctypes.c_char
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1917

#1842: Add IBM i support to Jython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1842

[Jython-dev] JDK 12: First Release Candidate available

[Rory O'D. <ror...@or...>]

   Hi Alan,

**OpenJDK builds *- JDK 12 Early Access build 32 **is now available **at 
: - jdk.java.net/12/*
**JDK 12:  First Release Candidate [1]**

  * Per the JDK 12 schedule [2], we are now in Release Candidate Phase.
  * The stabilization repository, jdk/jdk12, is open for P1 bug fixes
    per the JDK Release Process (JEP 3) [3].
  * All changes require approval via the Fix-Request Process [4].
  *
    Release note additions since last email

      o
        Build 31 - can_pop_frame and can_force_early_return capabilities
        are disabled if JVMCI compiler is used (JDK-8218025
        <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8218025>) The JVMTI
        |can_pop_frame| and |can_force_early_return| capabilities are
        disabled if a JVMCI compiler (like Graal) is used. As a result
        the corresponding functionality (|PopFrame| and
        |ForceEarlyReturnXXX| functions) is not available to JVMTI
        agents. This issue is being fixed via JDK-8218885
        <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8218885>
        [https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8218885
        <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8218885>].

      o Build 28: JDK-8212233
        <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8212233> : javadoc
        fails on jdk12 with "The code being documented uses modules but
        the packages defined in $URL are in the unnamed module."
  * Changes in this build.
    <http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk/jdk12/log?rev=reverse%28%22jdk-12%2B31%22%3A%3A%22jdk-12%2B32%22-%22jdk-12%2B31%22%29>

**OpenJDK builds *- JDK 13 Early Access build 8 is **now available **at 
: - jdk.java.net/13/*

  * These early-access, open-source builds are provided under the
      o GNU General Public License, version 2, with the Classpath
        Exception <http://openjdk.java.net/legal/gplv2+ce.html>.
  * Release Notes updates
  * Build 8
      o GraphicsEnvironment.getCenterPoint()/getMaximumWindowBounds()
        are unified across the platforms (JDK-8214918
        <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8214918>)
      o The experimental FIPS 140 compliant mode has been removed from
        the SunJSSE provider. (JDK-8217835
        <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8217835>)
  * Build 7
      o Change DOM parser to not resolve EntityReference and add Text
        node with
        DocumentBuilderFactory.setExpandEntityReferences(false)
        (JDK-8206132 <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8206132>)
  * Build 6
      o Base64.Encoder and Base64.Decoder methods can throw
        OutOfMemoryError (JDK-8210583
        <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8210583>)
  * Changes in this build
    <http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk/jdk/log?rev=reverse%28%22jdk-13%2B7%22%3A%3A%22jdk-13%2B8%22-%22jdk-13%2B7%22%29>
  * FOSS Bugs fixed in recent builds
      o Build 6 : JDK-8216970
        <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8216970> : condy
        causes JVM crash
      o Build 7: JDK-8215577
        <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8215577> : Remove
        javadoc support for HTML 4


Rgds,Rory

[1] 
https://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk-dev/2019-February/002623.html
[2] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/12/#Schedule
[3] http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/3
[4] http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/3#Fix-Request-Process

-- 
Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
Quality Engineering Manager
Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland

[Jython-dev] Summary of Jython tracker Issues

[Jython t. <st...@bu...>]

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2019-02-01 - 2019-02-08)
Jython tracker at https://bugs.jython.org/

To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue.
Do NOT respond to this message.

Issues counts and deltas:
  open     335 ( +0)
  closed  2415 ( +0)
  total   2750 ( +0)

Open issues with patches: 27   


Most recent 15 issues with no replies (15)
==========================================

#2736: ensurepip fails with: pip 9.0.1 requires SSL/TLS
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2736

#2734: Re-work package scanning and cache for modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2734

#2723: Unusual behavior in SimpleCookie when '=' and '@'  is used in 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2723

#2722: run-time issue while trying to reach external endpoint (Weathe
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2722

#2720: wrap_scoket_exception: 'module' object has no attribute 'OP_NO
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2720

#2719: Divergence of __str__ and __repr__ from CPython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2719

#2713: Rounding a float field causes test_cpickle to fail
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2713

#2703: JycompileAntTask cannot find org.python.apache.tools.ant.taskd
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2703

#2698: urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error unknown url type: https>
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2698

#2697: name$py.class is ignored when in a JAR with name.py
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2697

#2684: WindowsError:[Error 123] The filename,directory name,or volume
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2684

#2680: Ignore Java accessibility rules selectively by package (Java 9
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2680

#2666: Imports in python from java do not work if there is a package 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2666

#2665: Standalone jar includes test classes
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2665

#2651: Travis Builds failing with *** buffer overflow detected ***
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2651



Most recent 15 issues waiting for review (15)
=============================================

#2635: AST.lineno ignored by compile
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2635

#2566: inspect does not recognize code objects from bytecode files
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2566

#2545: help() does not work on Java-implemented modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2545

#2429: cStringIO does not work with mutable objects implementing the 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2429

#2367: Jython ignores custom __eq__ when hashing dict subclasses
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2367

#2363: relative seeks works incorrectly after readline
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2363

#2330: full-build fails to copy CPython License
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2330

#2230: Jython evaluation blocks under heavy load with high multi-core
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2230

#2143: site-packages support in standalone jar
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2143

#2142: Set Thread classloader when entering Jython context
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2142

#2121: Jython jar on Maven central embeds other third party libraries
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2121

#2077: marshal doesn't raise error when fed unmarshalable object
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2077

#1925: Support loading java.sql.Drivers that aren't on the boot class
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1925

#1917: No ctypes.c_char
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1917

#1842: Add IBM i support to Jython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1842

[Jython-dev] Summary of Jython tracker Issues

[Jython t. <st...@bu...>]

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2019-01-25 - 2019-02-01)
Jython tracker at https://bugs.jython.org/

To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue.
Do NOT respond to this message.

Issues counts and deltas:
  open     335 ( +0)
  closed  2415 ( +0)
  total   2750 ( +0)

Open issues with patches: 27   


Most recent 15 issues with no replies (15)
==========================================

#2736: ensurepip fails with: pip 9.0.1 requires SSL/TLS
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2736

#2734: Re-work package scanning and cache for modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2734

#2723: Unusual behavior in SimpleCookie when '=' and '@'  is used in 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2723

#2722: run-time issue while trying to reach external endpoint (Weathe
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2722

#2720: wrap_scoket_exception: 'module' object has no attribute 'OP_NO
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2720

#2719: Divergence of __str__ and __repr__ from CPython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2719

#2713: Rounding a float field causes test_cpickle to fail
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2713

#2703: JycompileAntTask cannot find org.python.apache.tools.ant.taskd
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2703

#2698: urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error unknown url type: https>
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2698

#2697: name$py.class is ignored when in a JAR with name.py
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2697

#2684: WindowsError:[Error 123] The filename,directory name,or volume
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2684

#2680: Ignore Java accessibility rules selectively by package (Java 9
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2680

#2666: Imports in python from java do not work if there is a package 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2666

#2665: Standalone jar includes test classes
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2665

#2651: Travis Builds failing with *** buffer overflow detected ***
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2651



Most recent 15 issues waiting for review (15)
=============================================

#2635: AST.lineno ignored by compile
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2635

#2566: inspect does not recognize code objects from bytecode files
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2566

#2545: help() does not work on Java-implemented modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2545

#2429: cStringIO does not work with mutable objects implementing the 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2429

#2367: Jython ignores custom __eq__ when hashing dict subclasses
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2367

#2363: relative seeks works incorrectly after readline
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2363

#2330: full-build fails to copy CPython License
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2330

#2230: Jython evaluation blocks under heavy load with high multi-core
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2230

#2143: site-packages support in standalone jar
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2143

#2142: Set Thread classloader when entering Jython context
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2142

#2121: Jython jar on Maven central embeds other third party libraries
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2121

#2077: marshal doesn't raise error when fed unmarshalable object
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2077

#1925: Support loading java.sql.Drivers that aren't on the boot class
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1925

#1917: No ctypes.c_char
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1917

#1842: Add IBM i support to Jython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1842

[Jython-dev] Summary of Jython tracker Issues

[Jython t. <st...@bu...>]

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2019-01-18 - 2019-01-25)
Jython tracker at https://bugs.jython.org/

To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue.
Do NOT respond to this message.

Issues counts and deltas:
  open     335 ( +2)
  closed  2415 ( +0)
  total   2750 ( +2)

Open issues with patches: 27   


Issues opened (2)
=================

#2736: ensurepip fails with: pip 9.0.1 requires SSL/TLS
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2736  opened by stuaxo

#2738: Is Jython core  slow for numeric calculations?
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2738  opened by sergei175



Most recent 15 issues with no replies (15)
==========================================

#2736: ensurepip fails with: pip 9.0.1 requires SSL/TLS
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2736

#2734: Re-work package scanning and cache for modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2734

#2723: Unusual behavior in SimpleCookie when '=' and '@'  is used in 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2723

#2722: run-time issue while trying to reach external endpoint (Weathe
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2722

#2720: wrap_scoket_exception: 'module' object has no attribute 'OP_NO
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2720

#2719: Divergence of __str__ and __repr__ from CPython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2719

#2713: Rounding a float field causes test_cpickle to fail
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2713

#2703: JycompileAntTask cannot find org.python.apache.tools.ant.taskd
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2703

#2698: urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error unknown url type: https>
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2698

#2697: name$py.class is ignored when in a JAR with name.py
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2697

#2684: WindowsError:[Error 123] The filename,directory name,or volume
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2684

#2680: Ignore Java accessibility rules selectively by package (Java 9
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2680

#2666: Imports in python from java do not work if there is a package 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2666

#2665: Standalone jar includes test classes
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2665

#2651: Travis Builds failing with *** buffer overflow detected ***
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2651



Most recent 15 issues waiting for review (15)
=============================================

#2635: AST.lineno ignored by compile
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2635

#2566: inspect does not recognize code objects from bytecode files
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2566

#2545: help() does not work on Java-implemented modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2545

#2429: cStringIO does not work with mutable objects implementing the 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2429

#2367: Jython ignores custom __eq__ when hashing dict subclasses
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2367

#2363: relative seeks works incorrectly after readline
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2363

#2330: full-build fails to copy CPython License
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2330

#2230: Jython evaluation blocks under heavy load with high multi-core
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2230

#2143: site-packages support in standalone jar
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2143

#2142: Set Thread classloader when entering Jython context
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2142

#2121: Jython jar on Maven central embeds other third party libraries
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2121

#2077: marshal doesn't raise error when fed unmarshalable object
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2077

#1925: Support loading java.sql.Drivers that aren't on the boot class
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1925

#1917: No ctypes.c_char
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1917

#1842: Add IBM i support to Jython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1842



Top 10 most discussed issues (1)
================================

#2654: Imported modules allow access to submodules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2654   3 msgs

[Jython-dev] JDK 12 enters Rampdown Phase Two

[Rory O'D. <ror...@or...>]

  Hi Alan,

**OpenJDK builds *- JDK 12 Early Access build 28 **is now available **at 
: - jdk.java.net/12/*

  * Per the JDK 12 schedule [1], we are now in Rampdown Phase Two.
      o For more details , see Mark Reinhold's email to jdk-dev mailing
        list [2]
      o The overall feature set is frozen, no further JEPs will be
        targeted to this release.
      o Per the JDK Release Process [3] we now turn our focusto P1 and
        P2 bugs.

**OpenJDK builds *- JDK 13 Early Access build 4 is **now available **at 
: - jdk.java.net/13/*

  * These early-access, open-source builds are provided under the
      o GNU General Public License, version 2, with the Classpath
        Exception <http://openjdk.java.net/legal/gplv2+ce.html>.
  * Release Notes:
      o http://jdk.java.net/13/release-notes
  * Changes in this build
    <http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk/jdk/log?rev=reverse%28%22jdk-13%2B3%22%3A%3A%22jdk-13%2B4%22-%22jdk-13%2B3%22%29>

Blog Updates from Java SE Product Management since last email.

  * Oracle Java SE Releases FAQ [3]
  * Oracle Java SE Support Roadmap [4]


Rgds,Rory

[1] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/12/#Schedule
[2] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk-dev/2019-January/002537.html
[3] https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/oracle-java-se-releases-faq
[4] https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/java-se-support-roadmap.html

-- 
Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
Quality Engineering Manager
Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland

[Jython-dev] Summary of Jython tracker Issues

[Jython t. <st...@bu...>]

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2019-01-11 - 2019-01-18)
Jython tracker at https://bugs.jython.org/

To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue.
Do NOT respond to this message.

Issues counts and deltas:
  open     333 ( +1)
  closed  2415 ( +0)
  total   2748 ( +1)

Open issues with patches: 27   


Issues opened (1)
=================

#2734: Re-work package scanning and cache for modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2734  opened by jeff.allen



Most recent 15 issues with no replies (15)
==========================================

#2734: Re-work package scanning and cache for modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2734

#2723: Unusual behavior in SimpleCookie when '=' and '@'  is used in 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2723

#2722: run-time issue while trying to reach external endpoint (Weathe
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2722

#2720: wrap_scoket_exception: 'module' object has no attribute 'OP_NO
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2720

#2719: Divergence of __str__ and __repr__ from CPython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2719

#2713: Rounding a float field causes test_cpickle to fail
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2713

#2703: JycompileAntTask cannot find org.python.apache.tools.ant.taskd
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2703

#2698: urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error unknown url type: https>
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2698

#2697: name$py.class is ignored when in a JAR with name.py
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2697

#2684: WindowsError:[Error 123] The filename,directory name,or volume
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2684

#2680: Ignore Java accessibility rules selectively by package (Java 9
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2680

#2666: Imports in python from java do not work if there is a package 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2666

#2665: Standalone jar includes test classes
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2665

#2651: Travis Builds failing with *** buffer overflow detected ***
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2651

#2644: Representation of Java maps with String keys differs from Pyth
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2644



Most recent 15 issues waiting for review (15)
=============================================

#2635: AST.lineno ignored by compile
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2635

#2566: inspect does not recognize code objects from bytecode files
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2566

#2545: help() does not work on Java-implemented modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2545

#2429: cStringIO does not work with mutable objects implementing the 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2429

#2367: Jython ignores custom __eq__ when hashing dict subclasses
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2367

#2363: relative seeks works incorrectly after readline
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2363

#2330: full-build fails to copy CPython License
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2330

#2230: Jython evaluation blocks under heavy load with high multi-core
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2230

#2143: site-packages support in standalone jar
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2143

#2142: Set Thread classloader when entering Jython context
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2142

#2121: Jython jar on Maven central embeds other third party libraries
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2121

#2077: marshal doesn't raise error when fed unmarshalable object
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2077

#1925: Support loading java.sql.Drivers that aren't on the boot class
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1925

#1917: No ctypes.c_char
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1917

#1842: Add IBM i support to Jython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1842



Top 10 most discussed issues (1)
================================

#2362: Import * doesn't work on JDK9 for java.*, jdk.* namespaces
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2362   4 msgs

[Jython-dev] Summary of Jython tracker Issues

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ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2019-01-04 - 2019-01-11)
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Issues counts and deltas:
  open     332 ( +0)
  closed  2415 ( +2)
  total   2747 ( +2)

Open issues with patches: 27   


Issues opened (2)
=================

#2730: datetime.strptime('%b') behaviour inconsistent with CPython on
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2730  opened by adamburke

#2732: Regression in large module support for pip
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2732  opened by jeff.allen



Most recent 15 issues with no replies (15)
==========================================

#2723: Unusual behavior in SimpleCookie when '=' and '@'  is used in 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2723

#2722: run-time issue while trying to reach external endpoint (Weathe
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2722

#2720: wrap_scoket_exception: 'module' object has no attribute 'OP_NO
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2720

#2719: Divergence of __str__ and __repr__ from CPython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2719

#2713: Rounding a float field causes test_cpickle to fail
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2713

#2703: JycompileAntTask cannot find org.python.apache.tools.ant.taskd
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2703

#2698: urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error unknown url type: https>
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2698

#2697: name$py.class is ignored when in a JAR with name.py
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2697

#2684: WindowsError:[Error 123] The filename,directory name,or volume
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2684

#2680: Ignore Java accessibility rules selectively by package (Java 9
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2680

#2666: Imports in python from java do not work if there is a package 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2666

#2665: Standalone jar includes test classes
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2665

#2651: Travis Builds failing with *** buffer overflow detected ***
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2651

#2644: Representation of Java maps with String keys differs from Pyth
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2644

#2640: Virtualenv gets confused using paths with ~
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2640



Most recent 15 issues waiting for review (15)
=============================================

#2635: AST.lineno ignored by compile
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2635

#2566: inspect does not recognize code objects from bytecode files
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2566

#2545: help() does not work on Java-implemented modules
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2545

#2429: cStringIO does not work with mutable objects implementing the 
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2429

#2367: Jython ignores custom __eq__ when hashing dict subclasses
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2367

#2363: relative seeks works incorrectly after readline
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2363

#2330: full-build fails to copy CPython License
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2330

#2230: Jython evaluation blocks under heavy load with high multi-core
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2230

#2143: site-packages support in standalone jar
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2143

#2142: Set Thread classloader when entering Jython context
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2142

#2121: Jython jar on Maven central embeds other third party libraries
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2121

#2077: marshal doesn't raise error when fed unmarshalable object
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2077

#1925: Support loading java.sql.Drivers that aren't on the boot class
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1925

#1917: No ctypes.c_char
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1917

#1842: Add IBM i support to Jython
https://bugs.jython.org/issue1842



Top 10 most discussed issues (2)
================================

#2663: Remove dependency on javax.xml.bind.DatatypeConverter
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2663   9 msgs

#2658: Update jython.org website
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2658   3 msgs



Issues closed (1)
=================

#2718: Jython not built for IBM Linux on POWER (ppc64el) systems
https://bugs.jython.org/issue2718  closed by jeff.allen

Re: [Jython-dev] Website - Archived versions

[Jim B. <jim...@py...>]

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 2:32 PM James Mudd <jam...@gm...> wrote:

> ...
> The 404 you mentioned I think happened as I transferred the repository.
> The version on my personal Github no longer exists?
>

Quite possibly! Regardless the link now works as expected.


> If you find more 404s now though let me know and i will look into it.
>

Will do!

Re: [Jython-dev] Website - Archived versions

[James M. <jam...@gm...>]

I have now transferred the archived old sites to a new Jython repository
https://github.com/jython/jython-old-sites which I have archived.

I have also merged a PR https://github.com/jython/jython.github.io/pull/4
which points the links on the new site to the new location of the old sites.

The 404 you mentioned I think happened as I transferred the repository. The
version on my personal Github no longer exists?

If you find more 404s now though let me know and i will look into it.

Thanks

James


On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 21:17, Jim Baker <jim...@py...> wrote:

> CPython does something similar. See for example
> https://docs.python.org/release/2.1/ and enjoy its classic look & feel :)
>
> I do agree that if we can remove some styling elements to suggest the old
> home page is the Jython home page, that would be great. It would be
> hopefully straightforward, maybe with a Python script or two to help.
>
> We do need to check for 404 errors, see for example the incorrect link
> https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/oldsites.html, which is
> found off of https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/ under
> "Archived sites". Easy enough to fix.
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:52 PM Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> wrote:
>
>> Simplest seems to be to check them in where they are expected. If we
>> don't want to carry the old material, it must surely be because we don't
>> think it valuable enough to keep accessible, but if we do I don't see
>> how it is better to have it accessible, just in a surprising place.
>>
>> Browsing it, I think it would be a shame to lose some of it entirely.
>> I'm a terrible hoarder, though.
>>
>> There's some project history here, and I've sometimes found it helpful
>> to know what people were thinking concurrent with some otherwise
>> puzzling change, or see how it was before. I'd say the information
>> should (eventually) be in a different form, none of it giving the
>> appearance of being our home page. But the news roll at the bottom of an
>> old home page is just our old (archived) news, isn't it?
>>
>> I think a sidebar etc. is part of the furniture that makes a page look
>> like a home page, so is a thing I'd remove sooner than fix.
>>
>> Jeff Allen
>>
>> On 09/01/2019 18:39, James Mudd wrote:
>> > Hi All
>> >
>> > Just something else to update once we move jython.org
>> > <http://jython.org> to the new website. Currently I have make a page
>> > to get to the archived sites (Documentation -> Archived Sites) this
>> > contains links to the various old versions of the Jython website.
>> > However currently these links point as jython.org <http://jython.org>
>> > which works now because the old sites are there, but once the domain
>> > is moved that wont be the case.
>> >
>> > I have a proposed solution to this
>> > https://github.com/jython/jython.github.io/pull/4 which changes the
>> > links to point to a copy of the old versions which i have in my github
>> > account (can be viewed at
>> > https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/). So merging this PR
>> > would fix the broken links once the domain is transferred. However I
>> > don't really think Jython should be relying on my personal Github
>> > account in the longer term so I would like to transfer the repository
>> > https://github.com/jamesmudd/jython-old-sites to the jython
>> > organisation. @JimBaker when I try this at the moment I get the error
>> > message "You don’t have the permission to create repositories on
>> > jython" could I have this permission? The idea would be to transfer
>> > the repository then archive it to make it read only.
>> >
>> > A small issue i have noticed is at
>> > https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/ the right had side bar
>> > doesn't seem to work properly I haven't looked into this but maybe it
>> > could be fixed, do people consider this an important feature worth
>> > fixing on archived sites?
>> >
>> > James
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: [Jython-dev] Website - Archived versions

[Jim B. <jim...@py...>]

CPython does something similar. See for example
https://docs.python.org/release/2.1/ and enjoy its classic look & feel :)

I do agree that if we can remove some styling elements to suggest the old
home page is the Jython home page, that would be great. It would be
hopefully straightforward, maybe with a Python script or two to help.

We do need to check for 404 errors, see for example the incorrect link
https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/oldsites.html, which is found
off of https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/ under "Archived
sites". Easy enough to fix.

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:52 PM Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> wrote:

> Simplest seems to be to check them in where they are expected. If we
> don't want to carry the old material, it must surely be because we don't
> think it valuable enough to keep accessible, but if we do I don't see
> how it is better to have it accessible, just in a surprising place.
>
> Browsing it, I think it would be a shame to lose some of it entirely.
> I'm a terrible hoarder, though.
>
> There's some project history here, and I've sometimes found it helpful
> to know what people were thinking concurrent with some otherwise
> puzzling change, or see how it was before. I'd say the information
> should (eventually) be in a different form, none of it giving the
> appearance of being our home page. But the news roll at the bottom of an
> old home page is just our old (archived) news, isn't it?
>
> I think a sidebar etc. is part of the furniture that makes a page look
> like a home page, so is a thing I'd remove sooner than fix.
>
> Jeff Allen
>
> On 09/01/2019 18:39, James Mudd wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > Just something else to update once we move jython.org
> > <http://jython.org> to the new website. Currently I have make a page
> > to get to the archived sites (Documentation -> Archived Sites) this
> > contains links to the various old versions of the Jython website.
> > However currently these links point as jython.org <http://jython.org>
> > which works now because the old sites are there, but once the domain
> > is moved that wont be the case.
> >
> > I have a proposed solution to this
> > https://github.com/jython/jython.github.io/pull/4 which changes the
> > links to point to a copy of the old versions which i have in my github
> > account (can be viewed at
> > https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/). So merging this PR
> > would fix the broken links once the domain is transferred. However I
> > don't really think Jython should be relying on my personal Github
> > account in the longer term so I would like to transfer the repository
> > https://github.com/jamesmudd/jython-old-sites to the jython
> > organisation. @JimBaker when I try this at the moment I get the error
> > message "You don’t have the permission to create repositories on
> > jython" could I have this permission? The idea would be to transfer
> > the repository then archive it to make it read only.
> >
> > A small issue i have noticed is at
> > https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/ the right had side bar
> > doesn't seem to work properly I haven't looked into this but maybe it
> > could be fixed, do people consider this an important feature worth
> > fixing on archived sites?
> >
> > James
> >
>
>
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Re: [Jython-dev] Website - Archived versions

[Jim B. <jim...@py...>]

James,

I made you, Jeff, and Stefan all "owners" of https://github.com/jython (so
you are now at the same level as other members of the team).

Please tell me if you need any other admin support.

- Jim

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:39 AM James Mudd <jam...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Just something else to update once we move jython.org to the new website.
> Currently I have make a page to get to the archived sites (Documentation ->
> Archived Sites) this contains links to the various old versions of the
> Jython website. However currently these links point as jython.org which
> works now because the old sites are there, but once the domain is moved
> that wont be the case.
>
> I have a proposed solution to this
> https://github.com/jython/jython.github.io/pull/4 which changes the links
> to point to a copy of the old versions which i have in my github account
> (can be viewed at https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/). So
> merging this PR would fix the broken links once the domain is transferred.
> However I don't really think Jython should be relying on my personal Github
> account in the longer term so I would like to transfer the repository
> https://github.com/jamesmudd/jython-old-sites to the jython organisation.
> @JimBaker when I try this at the moment I get the error message "You don’t
> have the permission to create repositories on jython" could I have this
> permission? The idea would be to transfer the repository then archive it to
> make it read only.
>
> A small issue i have noticed is at
> https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/ the right had side bar
> doesn't seem to work properly I haven't looked into this but maybe it could
> be fixed, do people consider this an important feature worth fixing on
> archived sites?
>
> James
> _______________________________________________
> Jython-dev mailing list
> Jyt...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev
>

Re: [Jython-dev] Website - Archived versions

[Jeff A. <ja...@fa...>]

Simplest seems to be to check them in where they are expected. If we 
don't want to carry the old material, it must surely be because we don't 
think it valuable enough to keep accessible, but if we do I don't see 
how it is better to have it accessible, just in a surprising place.

Browsing it, I think it would be a shame to lose some of it entirely. 
I'm a terrible hoarder, though.

There's some project history here, and I've sometimes found it helpful 
to know what people were thinking concurrent with some otherwise 
puzzling change, or see how it was before. I'd say the information 
should (eventually) be in a different form, none of it giving the 
appearance of being our home page. But the news roll at the bottom of an 
old home page is just our old (archived) news, isn't it?

I think a sidebar etc. is part of the furniture that makes a page look 
like a home page, so is a thing I'd remove sooner than fix.

Jeff Allen

On 09/01/2019 18:39, James Mudd wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Just something else to update once we move jython.org 
> <http://jython.org> to the new website. Currently I have make a page 
> to get to the archived sites (Documentation -> Archived Sites) this 
> contains links to the various old versions of the Jython website. 
> However currently these links point as jython.org <http://jython.org> 
> which works now because the old sites are there, but once the domain 
> is moved that wont be the case.
>
> I have a proposed solution to this 
> https://github.com/jython/jython.github.io/pull/4 which changes the 
> links to point to a copy of the old versions which i have in my github 
> account (can be viewed at 
> https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/). So merging this PR 
> would fix the broken links once the domain is transferred. However I 
> don't really think Jython should be relying on my personal Github 
> account in the longer term so I would like to transfer the repository 
> https://github.com/jamesmudd/jython-old-sites to the jython 
> organisation. @JimBaker when I try this at the moment I get the error 
> message "You don’t have the permission to create repositories on 
> jython" could I have this permission? The idea would be to transfer 
> the repository then archive it to make it read only.
>
> A small issue i have noticed is at 
> https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/ the right had side bar 
> doesn't seem to work properly I haven't looked into this but maybe it 
> could be fixed, do people consider this an important feature worth 
> fixing on archived sites?
>
> James
>

[Jython-dev] Website - Archived versions

[James M. <jam...@gm...>]

Hi All

Just something else to update once we move jython.org to the new website.
Currently I have make a page to get to the archived sites (Documentation ->
Archived Sites) this contains links to the various old versions of the
Jython website. However currently these links point as jython.org which
works now because the old sites are there, but once the domain is moved
that wont be the case.

I have a proposed solution to this
https://github.com/jython/jython.github.io/pull/4 which changes the links
to point to a copy of the old versions which i have in my github account
(can be viewed at https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/). So
merging this PR would fix the broken links once the domain is transferred.
However I don't really think Jython should be relying on my personal Github
account in the longer term so I would like to transfer the repository
https://github.com/jamesmudd/jython-old-sites to the jython organisation.
@JimBaker when I try this at the moment I get the error message "You don’t
have the permission to create repositories on jython" could I have this
permission? The idea would be to transfer the repository then archive it to
make it read only.

A small issue i have noticed is at
https://jamesmudd.github.io/jython-old-sites/ the right had side bar
doesn't seem to work properly I haven't looked into this but maybe it could
be fixed, do people consider this an important feature worth fixing on
archived sites?

James

Re: [Jython-dev] 2.7.2 for the New Year?

[<fwi...@gm...>]

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 1:12 PM Jim Baker <jim...@py...> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 12:41 PM James Mudd <jam...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> I agree a 2.7.2 release as soon as possible would be great. Sorry I haven't done much work on Jython since the website but hopefully have a look at the remaining issues soon.
I agree, a 2.7.2 release would be great!
>
>
> Thanks for that work on the website!
Yes, thanks!

> Hopefully jython.org will point at https://jython.github.io/ soon!
I am working on this, after reading through the github docs, I got
some information from the python infrastructure folks and will be
following up soon and making another attempt.

-Frank

Re: [Jython-dev] 2.7.2 for the New Year?

[Jim B. <jim...@py...>]

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 12:41 PM James Mudd <jam...@gm...> wrote:

> I agree a 2.7.2 release as soon as possible would be great. Sorry I
> haven't done much work on Jython since the website but hopefully have a
> look at the remaining issues soon.
>

Thanks for that work on the website! Hopefully jython.org will point at
https://jython.github.io/ soon!

>
> My opinion on Java support would be to try for 8 and 11. Is there is a
> compelling reason maintain 7 support? Dropping 7 would be nice for java
> syntax and might allow some issue to be looked at e.g.
> http://bugs.jython.org/issue2695, on the other hand we still have 7
> working now so maybe its worth keeping for this release? Also I think we
> should be careful to say which we actually support vs which work. I think
> making Jython run on 7,8,9,10 and 11 is possible but saying only 8 and 11
> are officially supported makes things a bit easier going forward?
>

Agreed about dropping support for Java 7. In Jython, we have only attempted
to support Java releases that are supported for the community. (Oracle does
offer commercial support for Java 6 and Java 7, but we are not part of that
program; we don't have access to their releases.) It's really not feasible
for us to do otherwise: the ecosystem moves on.

However, I wouldn't now move to Java 8 syntax/functionality for 2.7.2, it's
obviously too late in the dev process. But for 2.7.3 and later, certainly.
We would also gain functionality useful for implementing Jython, including
MethodHandle and CallSite.

- Jim


> I haven't followed the Gradle discussion, so based on nothing here are my
> opinions. Gradle is probably the nicest Java build system available at the
> moment (i.e its what I would use given free choice). I think the real gain
> would be to produce a smaller jar without the bundled dependencies (but
> with a POM) so that people could integrate jython into other products more
> easily where they have their own dependencies to worry about. The current
> build.gradle looks really nice! I will have a play with it. A related issue
> I mean to look at is OSGi support
> https://github.com/jythontools/jython/issues/79 I think adding some
> manifest header would be enough to make a start on this so I would like to
> try and do that for this release.
>
> Here is the current master regtest result on my system (Linux, Oracle Java
> 11.0.1):
>      [exec] 379 tests OK.
>      [exec] 2 tests skipped:
>      [exec]     test_codecmaps_hk test_curses
>      [exec] 3 tests failed:
>      [exec]     test_import_jy test_signal test_socket
>      [exec] 3 fails unexpected:
>      [exec]     test_import_jy test_signal test_socket
>
> So its pretty close.
>
> Thanks for all the hard work already done towards 2.7.2
>
> James
>
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 09:19, Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jim.
>>
>> 1. It would be worth deciding whether we support Java 7. It was sensible
>> a year ago, I think, especially given that ANTLR produced horrible
>> (although apparently harmless) stack dumps on Java 8+: it didn't feel safe
>> to build a release other than on 7, but that's now fixed. (Java 9 and 10
>> went by quickly, didn't they? I suppose this moves our target :( to 7/8
>> &11.)
>>
>> 2. Darn, I guess I missed the import. It came and went a few times in the
>> edit. Normally I let the IDE sort this out last thing, but hold off with
>> old code as it creates noise in the change set. Easily fixed.
>>
>> 3. I have done a partial job on this, only scanning some modules, and
>> intend to revisit. I do not think this explains a problem with Pattern.
>>
>> 4. A reflective access warning only occur if you are foolish enough to
>> ask for a real fd. I regard this as unavoidable (but we now avoid doing it
>> ourselves).
>>
>> 5. Signals: not something I understand very well at present.
>>
>> Let's not forget ski8pped tests. However, each should have an issue, and
>> that issue may not be in this milestone.
>>
>> I wonder if Adam's extra failing tests might be to do with localisation?
>> Jeff Allen
>>
>> On 08/01/2019 06:12, Jim Baker wrote:
>>
>> I agree with "better now (not perfect)"! Some more observations:
>>
>> 1. Java 9 is no longer supported, only Java 8 and Java 11, both of which
>> are under long term support.
>> 2. Java 11 removes javax.xml.bind, which we import from
>> DatatypeConverter; fortunately we don't actually use! Commenting out two
>> lines of source means trunk builds just fine on Java 11.
>> 3. The key change that prevented Java 9 support from running, namely
>> introspecting Java packages without using the rt.jar, now mostly works. In
>> the regrtest, it still fails with importing Pattern from java.util.regex,
>> not certain why; the two other imports tested in import_star_from_java.py
>> work fine.
>> 4. We do have some illegal access warnings from jnr.posix in terms of
>> reflected fields, which we will have to look into at some point. Of course,
>> this is just the usual encapsulation of Java that Java 9 introduced.
>> 5. The other failing test in test_signal when run on JDK 11 is related to
>> the change over to how signals are exposed.
>>
>> To summarize:
>>
>>      [exec] 380 tests OK.
>>      [exec] 2 tests skipped:
>>      [exec]     test_codecmaps_hk test_curses
>>      [exec] 2 tests failed:
>>      [exec]     test_import_jy test_signal
>>      [exec] 2 fails unexpected:
>>      [exec]     test_import_jy test_signal
>>      [exec] Result: 1
>>
>> So this looks very close to me!
>>
>> Lots of incredibly hard work has gone into 2.7.2, it's time to get it out
>> there.
>>
>> - Jim
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:19 PM Jeff Allen <ja...@fa...> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Adam. Mainly I thought we couldn't ship in such a shabby state on
>>> Java 9. Better now (not perfect). -- J.
>>>
>>> Jeff Allen
>>>
>>> On 07/01/2019 10:55, Adam Burke wrote:
>>>
>>> I just checked out out the head for the first time in a while and
>>> regrtest is green for me under Windows and Java 8. Great to see.
>>>
>>> <0.02 put in jar>
>>>
>>> From my (front-row?) spectator seat, I think more frequent patch
>>> releases wouldn't hurt. It's been a fair while since 2.7.1. If the tests
>>> are green, bugs have been fixed, and more stuff works in 2.7.2 than 2.7.1,
>>> I would vote to ship.
>>>
>>> If the gradle stuff is working well enough to produce a jar, it could be
>>> included and marked experimental? I'm sure it would be useful to projects
>>> with dependencies on jython from maven or gradle projects.
>>>
>>> Obviously it would be good to announce the beta on the website though.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Adam
>>>
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