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Re: [JPP-Devel] Increased GDAL Java activity
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From: Stefan S. <ss...@ge...> - 2009-02-26 21:38:40
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Larry, ok.. now I got what you meant. And the repeat function is a nice option too. stefan Martin Davis wrote: > I think you're on the right track here, Larry. I thought of something > like this for providing access to JTS functions, and have actually > implemented something similar in the JTS TestBuilder. The > GeometryFunction dialog probably would have warped into something like > this with a bit more development. > > The nice thing about having a floating window is that you can provide a > lot more feedback to the user while executing a function, and the user > is able to see the context (e.g. input params) while the function is > executing. Also, it's much faster to execute an operation multiple times. > > Larry Becker wrote: >> I was thinking of something like the attached OJ Geometry Function >> dialog only mode-less (floating window). The pop-up menu would >> contain functions defined by users. This way there is no need for >> making a unique icon and you never run out of room on a tool pallet. >> Clicking the (TBD ) button would be the same as clicking a tool icon. >> An example of a custom tool might be: "Add a tree" which would input a >> point and prompt for an attribute like species. >> >> Larry >> >> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Stefan Steiniger <ss...@ge... >> <mailto:ss...@ge...>> wrote: >> >> Ok.. but thank you for working on it. >> >> On your idea: I can not really imagine what you are talking about, >> i.e. >> how it would look like... >> >> stefan >> >> Larry Becker wrote: >> > Hi Stefan, >> > >> > >What is the progress with the new (dynamic?) toolbar... >> > >> > Well actually not much. I wasted a lot of time on dreams and >> schemes >> > that didn't work out. I think what is needed is a simpler method of >> > doing the same thing without so much overhead. I was thinking >> that a >> > simple floating window with a pop-up menu of custom tools and a >> button >> > to activate it might do the trick. Opinions? >> > >> > Larry >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Stefan Steiniger >> <ss...@ge... <mailto:ss...@ge...> >> > <mailto:ss...@ge... <mailto:ss...@ge...>>> wrote: >> > >> > Hei Larry, >> > >> > on a bit different thing as you outline your current >> develoment goal... >> > What is the progress with the new (dynamic?) toolbar - so >> could we >> > include that in the next OJ 1.3? >> > Or do you think it is a bit obsolete, since a Jython script >> may do the >> > same? (I haven't tried it yet to make a script that >> generates a "merge >> > two polygons" button) >> > >> > @Peppe (sorry for highjacking this topic): >> > I have only checked the beginning of the OJ functions manual >> (first 10 >> > pages). It will take a few more days (weeks) till it is done >> as I have >> > put preference for integrating the final OJ 1.3 >> functionality (Things to >> > be done are i18n of the Pirol image stuff - and checking >> what goes wrong >> > with the referencing, and finally Michaels Attribute plugin) >> > >> > stefan >> > >> > Larry Becker schrieb: >> > > >That build comes with Oracle support that is missing >> from FWTools >> > > binaries. >> > > >> > > Yes, but you do have to have an Oracle client installed, >> and it it is >> > > missing a few of the other formats. >> > > >> > > In any case, I suppose this is a detail that can be left >> to the >> > user to >> > > resolve at install time. I hope to write my driver to >> support all >> > > available ogr2ogr features (although you might have to >> manually type >> > > some parameters). I do plan to package it up as a >> separate plugin >> > > bundled with binaries for Windows. It should look a >> little like >> > ogr2gui >> > > when finished. I'm going to attempt to avoid any JUMP >> specific >> > > dependencies so that it could run stand-alone if desired. >> > > >> > > Larry >> > > >> > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Rahkonen Jukka >> > > <Juk...@mm... >> <mailto:Juk...@mm...> >> <mailto:Juk...@mm... <mailto:Juk...@mm...>> >> > <mailto:Juk...@mm... >> <mailto:Juk...@mm...> >> > <mailto:Juk...@mm... >> <mailto:Juk...@mm...>>>> wrote: >> > > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > You may have a look also at the gdal binaries coming >> with ms4w >> > > package http://maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml. That build >> > comes with >> > > Oracle support that is missing from FWTools binaries. >> > > >> > > Here is the list of supported formats in FWTools 2.2.8: >> > > C:\ohjelmat\FWTools2.2.8>ogr2ogr --formats >> > > Supported Formats: >> > > -> "ESRI Shapefile" (read/write) >> > > -> "MapInfo File" (read/write) >> > > -> "UK .NTF" (readonly) >> > > -> "SDTS" (readonly) >> > > -> "TIGER" (read/write) >> > > -> "S57" (read/write) >> > > -> "DGN" (read/write) >> > > -> "VRT" (readonly) >> > > -> "REC" (readonly) >> > > -> "Memory" (read/write) >> > > -> "BNA" (read/write) >> > > -> "CSV" (read/write) >> > > -> "NAS" (readonly) >> > > -> "GML" (read/write) >> > > -> "GPX" (read/write) >> > > -> "KML" (read/write) >> > > -> "GeoJSON" (read/write) >> > > -> "Interlis 1" (read/write) >> > > -> "Interlis 2" (read/write) >> > > -> "GMT" (read/write) >> > > -> "SQLite" (read/write) >> > > -> "ODBC" (read/write) >> > > -> "PGeo" (readonly) >> > > -> "OGDI" (readonly) >> > > -> "PostgreSQL" (read/write) >> > > -> "MySQL" (read/write) >> > > -> "XPlane" (readonly) >> > > -> "AVCBin" (readonly) >> > > -> "AVCE00" (readonly) >> > > -> "Geoconcept" (read/write) >> > > >> > > -Jukka- >> > > >> > > >> > > Larry Becker wrote: >> > > >> > > >Hi Jukka, >> > > >> > > >>Conversion to gml and reading that instead of >> shapefiles >> > would be >> > > better >> > > choise sometimes... >> > > >> > > >I agree, but it doesn't sound like GML is compatible >> > between the two >> > > programs: http://www.gdal.org/ogr/drv_gml.html >> > > >> > > >BTW, here is a link to all of the supported >> formats. I'm >> > not sure >> > > how many >> > > of the optional ones are compiled into FWTools, which >> is the only >> > > practical >> > > way of getting binaries. >> http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_formats.html >> > > >> > > >Larry >> > > >> > > >On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Rahkonen Jukka >> > > ><Juk...@mm... >> <mailto:Juk...@mm...> >> > <mailto:Juk...@mm... >> <mailto:Juk...@mm...>> >> <mailto:Juk...@mm... <mailto:Juk...@mm...> >> > <mailto:Juk...@mm... >> <mailto:Juk...@mm...>>>>wrote: >> > > >> > > >> Hi, >> > > >> >> > > >> I may be difficult to decide which of the many >> ogr2ogr >> > options >> > > will be >> > > >> supported by user interface. Perhaps there could >> be an empty >> > > slot called >> > > >> "og2oogr parameters" which just passes on >> everything just as >> > > user has >> > > >> written. >> > > >> Some formats that ogr2ogr supports may have mixed >> > geometries, 3D >> > > data or >> > > >> several layers and making use of them simple may >> also be >> > a bit >> > > tricky. >> > > >> Conversion to gml and reading that instead of >> shapefiles >> > would >> > > be better >> > > >> choise sometimes, but OJ needs those templates. >> And writing >> > > OpenJUMP driver >> > > >> directly into ogr2ogr would need C++ programmer, >> I fear. >> > > Anyway, your plan >> > > >> will be a good start and it will also offer one >> way to write >> > > data to Oracle >> > > >> and PostGIS. >> > > >> >> > > >> -Jukka- >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > -----Alkuperäinen viesti----- >> > > > Lähettäjä: Larry Becker >> [mailto:bec...@gm... <mailto:bec...@gm...> >> > <mailto:bec...@gm... <mailto:bec...@gm...>> >> > > <mailto:bec...@gm... >> <mailto:bec...@gm...> <mailto:bec...@gm... >> <mailto:bec...@gm...>>>] >> > > > Lähetetty: pe 20.2.2009 22:13 >> > > > Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use >> > > > Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Increased GDAL Java activity >> > > > >> > > > >Perhaps this could be done by simply making OS >> external >> > > > >process calls, rather than in-process bindings to the >> > library? >> > > > >> > > > That is actually the path I'm investigating now. >> The import >> > > utility would >> > > > just script ogr2ogr to put the results as >> shapefiles in a temp >> > > folder. >> > > > >> > > > Larry >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Martin Davis >> > > <mb...@re... >> <mailto:mb...@re...> <mailto:mb...@re... >> <mailto:mb...@re...>> >> > <mailto:mb...@re... >> <mailto:mb...@re...> <mailto:mb...@re... >> <mailto:mb...@re...>>> >> > > > >wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Yep, I'd agree. And for something so core to the >> > application, >> > > I think >> > > > > it's really important to preserve the 100% Java >> aspect, with >> > > all the >> > > > > benefits of platform-independence that it brings. >> > > > > >> > > > > Plus all that JNI hacking - brrrrrr! >> > > > > >> > > > > Format transformation is less core to the >> architecture, >> > so it >> > > doesn't >> > > > > seem unreasonable to look to GDAL to provide formats >> > which are >> > > > > required. Perhaps this could be done by simply >> making >> > OS external >> > > > > process calls, rather than in-process bindings >> to the >> > library? >> > > > > >> > > > > Sunburned Surveyor wrote: >> > > > > > Larry, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I don't know much about GDAL, but I'm thinking >> it will >> > be a >> > > lot easier >> > > > > > to add deegree or GeoTidy/GeoTools CRS support >> to OJ. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > SS >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Larry Becker >> > > <bec...@gm... >> <mailto:bec...@gm...> <mailto:bec...@gm... >> <mailto:bec...@gm...>> >> > <mailto:bec...@gm... >> <mailto:bec...@gm...> <mailto:bec...@gm... >> <mailto:bec...@gm...>>>> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> This post is continuing the debate/discussion >> about >> > adding OJ >> > > > projection >> > > > > >> support, and other interesting things that >> GDAL provides. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> I've noticed that Even Rouault has been >> giving the >> > GDAL Java >> > > bindings >> > > > > quite >> > > > > >> a workout lately. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/browser/trunk/gdal/swig/java/apps/ >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> Does this development indicate that it may no >> longer >> > be quite so >> > > > > difficult >> > > > > >> to add GDAL support to JUMP? >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> regards, >> > > > > >> Larry >> > > > > >> -- >> > > > > >> http://amusingprogrammer.blogspot.com/ >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San >> > Francisco, CA >> > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open >> Sourcing the >> > Enterprise >> > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source >> > participation >> > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the >> source >> > code: SFAD >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> > Jum...@li... >> <mailto:Jum...@li...> >> > <mailto:Jum...@li... >> <mailto:Jum...@li...>> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://amusingprogrammer.blogspot.com/ >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San >> Francisco, CA >> > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing >> the Enterprise >> > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source >> participation >> > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the >> source code: SFAD >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> > Jum...@li... >> <mailto:Jum...@li...> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San >> Francisco, CA >> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the >> Enterprise >> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source >> participation >> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source >> code: SFAD >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H >> _______________________________________________ >> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> Jum...@li... >> <mailto:Jum...@li...> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://amusingprogrammer.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA >> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise >> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation >> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> Jum...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >> > |