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Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] Synthdriver for Emu-Morpheus ready - but not checked in yet

[Bill Z. <wrz...@in...>]

Sebastian Korten wrote:
> Do you think this is ok?
>   
I vote "go right ahead."  If you have CVS privileges, you should be free 
to change anything, as long as it doesn't break anything else.  And if 
you break something else, that's fine too, as long as you fix everything 
that broke.

-B

Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] WG: Minimal update: Roland GP16

[Bill Z. <wrz...@in...>]

Joachim Backhaus wrote:
> I've got the following message from Mikael Kurula
> the author of the Roland GP16 driver.
Done!  And it only took 15 months!

-B

Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] [Jsynthlib-cvs] Matrix 6R OSX observations.

[Joachim B. <jba...@pi...>]

Hi Coen,

you are on the wrong list!
The CVS list is only for (automatic) CVS-messages.
Please use the jsynthlib-devel list.

Cheers,
Joachim

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Betreff: [Jsynthlib-cvs] Matrix 6R OSX observations.

Let me start by saying that this is a wonderfull project....

The best editor for my Oberheim Matrix-6R on OSX so far...

Just A few observations I encountered. I am amusician so very not =
technical in terms of programming languages, I do have some Midi/sysex =
skills..... Was hoping I could contribute to the development in this =
way.....

1 The editor does not work instantly.

I found out that the JSynthlib editor only works after I started another =
program (M1000x, a dedicated Matrix editor program). It seems that =
M1000X puts the matrix in the right mode to receive sysex data.
Messages From JSynthlib are only received after I made as much as 1 =
adjustment in M1000X ......

2 . The modulation matrix still does not work.

This is why I started looking for another program and found out about =
JSynthlib. Sounddiver has the same problem under OSX. Does anyone have =
experience with the matrix 1000 + Jsynthlib/sounddiver and the =
modulation matrix? Maybe the problem lies with the matrix 6R???

Keep up the good work here!!!

Regards,

Coen Berrier,

www.dj-mason.com

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[Jsynthlib-devel] Synthdriver for Emu-Morpheus ready - but not checked in yet

[Sebastian K. <seb...@gm...>]

Hello jSynthlib-devel-list readers,

Based on the existence of the 'Emu-Proteus' driver
I thought that it would be quite simple to 'morph' the code
to support the Morpheus (please excuse my bad puns ;o)

It definitely was more that a 'copy & paste' job since those
two machines are not altogether that similar.

I tried to include the description of the (some hundred) filters
(and the effects of their parameters) in the GUI so it has grown
a little in size.

I included editors for single patches, banks,
midimaps and hyperpresets.

The reason that I mail to you guys before I try to check the code in
is that I made a new widget...

Since there are multiple morpheus parameters where the order of
possible values is ugly or even not continuous I thought it would be
easiest to create a new widget.

ComboValueBoxWidget is basically the same as ComboBoxWidget but
there is a second array called 'values' so that you can send other values
for the parameter than the 'array-position + offset'.

Do you think this is ok?

What should I do next - since this is not just 'driver-code'...

By the way - I am not very good at 'GUI event coding' - is there someone ou=
t
there who could extend the 'Knob-Widget' so that you could fine-tune the in=
put
by pressing Ctrl while using the mouse (or something to that effect)

That would be awesome, because I do prefer the look of the knob
to the look of the slider and even with the slider it is not possible to
select a precise value in the range of '0..4096'.

Thank you for all your work!

Cheers,
Bass


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Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] errors under Ubuntu Studio (Feisty Fawn)

[Bill Z. <wrz...@in...>]

Atte André Jensen wrote:
> I'm still a big baffled, because jsynthlib seem like a unique and useful project
My only guess is that people who take the time, money, and effort to 
play keyboard don't want to mess with semi-functional "free" software.

Or maybe playing synth isn't about collecting patches, but manipulating 
the sound in real time.  I dunno, I don't play.

Seems to me there really isn't much activity on the web at large 
regarding synths and patches.  Reviews and individual sites, but no forums.

-B

Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] errors under Ubuntu Studio (Feisty Fawn)

[<att...@gm...>]

Bill Zwicky wrote:

> FYI, JSynthLib is effectively a dead project.

I've been wondering why that is, my guesses include:

1) Most opensource people (most of which are running linux) are using 
softsynths these days.

2) People with hardware synths edit through the often included windows 
driver, if under linux through wine.

I'm still a big baffled, because jsynthlib seem like a unique and useful 
project.

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Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] errors under Ubuntu Studio (Feisty Fawn)

[Bill Z. <wrz...@in...>]

ram wrote:
> I've tried to 'compile' the most recent JSynthlib under Ubuntu Studio (Feisty
> Fawn) and this is what I get:
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:init_
>     at gnu.javax.sound.midi.alsa.AlsaMidiDeviceProvider.init(libgcj.so.70)
>     at gnu.javax.sound.midi.alsa.AlsaMidiDeviceProvider.<clinit>(libgcj.so.70)
>     at java.lang.Class.initializeClass(libgcj.so.70)
> .... etc
>   
Behold! the power of Google:

http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar/forum_posts.html?fid=5&tid=207

FYI, JSynthLib is effectively a dead project.  But if it's useful, go 
ahead and update it.  The open source pool can always use more code.  
BTW, I added the CZ-101, so yell if help need.

-Bill

[Jsynthlib-devel] errors under Ubuntu Studio (Feisty Fawn)

[ram <ra...@hy...>]

Hi all,

I've tried to 'compile' the most recent JSynthlib under Ubuntu Studio (Feisty
Fawn) and this is what I get:

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:init_
    at gnu.javax.sound.midi.alsa.AlsaMidiDeviceProvider.init(libgcj.so.70)
    at gnu.javax.sound.midi.alsa.AlsaMidiDeviceProvider.<clinit>(libgcj.so.70)
    at java.lang.Class.initializeClass(libgcj.so.70)
.... etc

Any help would be appreciated.  Although familiar with programming, I have
almost no experience with Java.

I could perhaps assist the project with detailed specs on the following two
legacy synthesizers:

Casio CZ-3000  (Which I believe is close to the CZ-1000 and CZ-5000)

and the

Wersi EX-20 (Which was a remarkable multiprocessor synth that seems to have
'broke' Wersi - too far ahead of its time and inadequate publicity.  Used in a
few movie soundtracks.)

I could also help with documentation.

Thanks,

Rich Marschall
ra...@hy...


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[Jsynthlib-devel] OT: Invitation to participate in research project

[Ben A. <ben...@st...>]

Hello there

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Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] Micron driver

[<att...@gm...>]

Tony Bassette wrote:

> 	I also think there are people around on the list, and maybe we
> 	are all waiting for some news. Instead of maybe we could find a
> 	thing or two on the contribute page and do our best to improve
> 	and stabilised this project.

Well a project without new development could be dead, but the reason 
could also be that the project has matured to a degree where there are 
few or no bugs and the functionality is complete or at least rounded off.

Is that part of the story with jsynthlib? Is it in fact a stable, 
complete package? If not what's the areas that could need more work?

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Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] Micron driver

[Tony B. <tba...@ap...>]

	Hi there,

	I also think there are people around on the list, and maybe we
	are all waiting for some news. Instead of maybe we could find a
	thing or two on the contribute page and do our best to improve
	and stabilised this project.

	I know people waiting for a tool like this one, and I have no
	excuse for not sending specs or anything that might be useful
	for their support.

	Take care.

On Sun, Jun 03, 2007, Rib Rdb wrote:
> I don't really know anything about the Micron. If you have access to
> the sysex specification then it should be possible to make a jsynthlib
> driver.  Unfortunately the project is not very alive lately, but I
> believe there are still people around on the mailing list.
> 
> On 6/3/07, Atte André Jensen <att...@gm...> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm thinking seriously about getting an Alesis Micron. But I understand
> > they are a pain to program, so I was wondering if anyone could make a
> > qualified guess about weather it would be possible to make a driver for
> > jsynthlib?
> >
> > BTW: I'm new to jsynthlib, since I'm mostly running softsynths on my
> > laptop, and I'm wondering how alive the program and it's community is...
> >
> > --
> > peace, love & harmony
> > Atte
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Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] Micron driver

[<att...@gm...>]

Rib Rdb wrote:
> I don't really know anything about the Micron. If you have access to
> the sysex specification then it should be possible to make a jsynthlib
> driver. 

I'll take my chances, and hope sufficient specs are included in the 
manual...

 > Unfortunately the project is not very alive lately, but I
> believe there are still people around on the mailing list.

Why is the project dying? Is there a more maintained project with 
similar goals that I should look at instead?

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Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] Micron driver

[Rib R. <ri...@us...>]

I don't really know anything about the Micron. If you have access to
the sysex specification then it should be possible to make a jsynthlib
driver.  Unfortunately the project is not very alive lately, but I
believe there are still people around on the mailing list.

On 6/3/07, Atte Andr=E9 Jensen <att...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm thinking seriously about getting an Alesis Micron. But I understand
> they are a pain to program, so I was wondering if anyone could make a
> qualified guess about weather it would be possible to make a driver for
> jsynthlib?
>
> BTW: I'm new to jsynthlib, since I'm mostly running softsynths on my
> laptop, and I'm wondering how alive the program and it's community is...
>
> --
> peace, love & harmony
> Atte
>
> http://atte.dk       | http://myspace.com/attejensen
> http://anagrammer.dk | http://atte.dk/compositions

[Jsynthlib-devel] Micron driver

[<att...@gm...>]

Hi

I'm thinking seriously about getting an Alesis Micron. But I understand 
they are a pain to program, so I was wondering if anyone could make a 
qualified guess about weather it would be possible to make a driver for 
jsynthlib?

BTW: I'm new to jsynthlib, since I'm mostly running softsynths on my 
laptop, and I'm wondering how alive the program and it's community is...

-- 
peace, love & harmony
Atte

http://atte.dk       | http://myspace.com/attejensen
http://anagrammer.dk | http://atte.dk/compositions

[Jsynthlib-devel] Micron driver

[<att...@gm...>]

Hi

I'm thinking seriously about getting an Alesis Micron. But I understand 
they are a pain to program, so I was wondering if anyone could make a 
qualified guess about weather it would be possible to make a driver for 
jsynthlib?

BTW: I'm new to jsynthlib, since I'm mostly running softsynths on my 
laptop, and I'm wondering how alive the program and it's community is...

-- 
peace, love & harmony
Atte

http://atte.dk       | http://myspace.com/attejensen
http://anagrammer.dk | http://atte.dk/compositions

Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] make fails (build order problem?)

[Joachim B. <jba...@pi...>]

Federico,

can you send us the commandline output?

It may help to find out if this is an error of JSL
or if you have made something wrong.

Cheers,
Joachim=20

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Betreff: [Jsynthlib-devel] make fails (build order problem?)

hello,
I'm packaging JSynthLib for Gentoo (precisely: I'm doing the "ebuild"
to make it compile automatically)

I found that when the makefile reaches synthdrivers/RolandGP16 it stops =
with about 100 errors; without touching any source, I issue again make =
(and it fails again, on some other point) and again, and successfully =
compile.

I suppose it is a problem of build order.

Hope it could get fixed in the next release of JSL.
In the while someone can confirm that is the error and it will be fixed?

thanks

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Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] FW: Re: What is the JSL way to deal with negative param values?

[Bill Z. <wrz...@in...>]

I apologize for the ridiculous lateness of this; I just discovered it 
had never been sent. I hope it's useful to someone.


Steven Schmidt wrote:
>  I've been casting it as a byte and while it seems to work up to a point -- I'm not getting the negative values to display.     
>  I thought it should work the way I'm doing it, but it stops at zero.  Please have a look at this snippet and make recommendations if you can:   
>  The purpose of this method is to subtract the max value for the widget if the param value is greater than the max value.   
Why would you do that? I'm having trouble figuring out what your code 
sample is doing, so I'll pull some explanations out of thin air, and 
hope something applies.

There are *three* data formats you need to think about when building 
your editor:

1. The GUI format. What is the range you want to present to the user? 
For example, my Casio CZ has a detune parameter that ranges from -47 to 
+47, so I use a slider with exactly that range.
2. The binary format. How does your synth represent a value as bits? For 
the detune parameter, the CZ uses one bit to represent sign, and 7 bits 
for the absolute value.
3. The sysex format. The upper bit of each byte in a sysex cannot be 
used, so usually there's an extra encoding applyed to expand the binary 
format so that it skips those useless bits. The CZ simply uses the 
lowest 4 bits of each byte, so after step two, I chop the data into two 
nybbles, and store them in consecutive locations in the sysex.

When we say "bytes are signed numbers", we're talking about the sysex 
format (level 3), and the tricks involved in getting data into and out 
of the sysex byte array. The IParamModel, on the other hand, converts 
between levels 1 and 2. To use my CZ example again, DetuneModel.get() 
returns an integer in the range -47 to +47, and DetuneModel.set() 
accepts the same.

http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/sets/select/dm_twos_complement.html

>      
>  public static SpinnerWidget dynaSpinner(String label, IPatch patch, int min, int max, int base,    
>                         IParamModel pmodel, ISender sender) {    
>          String pt = patch.getByteArray().toString();   
>             
>          int rawval =   pmodel.get();   
>          int prelimval = (byte)pmodel.get()+ max & 0x7F;   
>          System.out.println("rawval:"+ rawval+"  prelimval:"+prelimval);   
>          if (rawval > max)  {    
>                 base = -max;   
>                 System.out.println("      BASE:"+base + "     The math:"+(prelimval + base));     
>                 SpinnerWidget spinner = new SpinnerWidget (label, patch, min, max, base, pmodel, sender);   
>          }   
>          SpinnerWidget spinner = new SpinnerWidget (label, patch, min, max, base, pmodel, sender);   
>             
>          return spinner;   
>          }   
>      
>  }   
>  This outputs:   
>
> rawval:126 prelimval:10
>
>        BASE:-12     The math:-2     
>  -2 is the correct value, but the spinner widget actually displays a '0' -- apparently getting stuck at 0.   
>  Help!!!   
>      
>  Bill Zwicky wrote:   
>  > Note that this goofiness is on top of the fact that your synth has    
>  > probably scrambled the bytes a little to get around the restrictions of    
>  > the sysex message.  So you need to deal with that, on top of dealing    
>  > with signed bytes.   
>

[Jsynthlib-devel] make fails (build order problem?)

[federico <mes...@gm...>]

hello,
I'm packaging JSynthLib for Gentoo (precisely: I'm doing the "ebuild"
to make it compile automatically)

I found that when the makefile reaches synthdrivers/RolandGP16 it
stops with about 100 errors; without touching any source, I issue
again make (and it fails again, on some other point) and again, and
successfully compile.

I suppose it is a problem of build order.

Hope it could get fixed in the next release of JSL.
In the while someone can confirm that is the error and it will be fixed?

thanks

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Federico F.

[Jsynthlib-devel] nord stage drivers

[Fredrik J. <fj...@ho...>]

We will start to develop nord stage drivers if they are not in the making.

/fredrik

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[Jsynthlib-devel] Hi there Jsynthlib people

[Michael H. <pat...@ya...>]

Hi there all,

I am working on a hardware and software retrofit kit to go into the Korg Poly 800 and EX 800 that will improve the sysex implementation and also add a whole stack of new features as well as new sound capabilities based on the FM 800 mod and Moog Slayer mods. I'm doing this mostly for fun as a hobby and also to keep a great instrument alive and kicking in an increasingly VST world.

At this point, I've disassembled and rewritten most of the EX800 8K ROM. I've added numerous new sysex commands that give the EX800 patch bank updates, scratch memory sysex control and more. That's something that the original Poly and EX800 never had.

I've downloaded Eclipse, pulled down the latest Jsynthlib from the CVS repository. But because I'm no Eclipse pro, I'm not sure how to copy an existing synth driver and set it up in Eclipse so that I can edit it for the new EX800.

Would someone be able to walk me through this? I know this might be simple stuff to you all, but I'm an old school coder (ie: 80C85, Z80 and CPM) and it just isn't immediately obvious to me.

Also, why is this list so quiet? Is it because we are just a dying breed of hacker?

Hope not and many thanks,

Mike H.

 
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[Jsynthlib-devel] i like JsynthLib but...

[na b. <nab...@ya...>]

hello,

i don't know much about programming but i do know i
like to get an editorpage in JsynthLib for my synth.
I'm using Linux.
I have gotten hold of the request command of my Yamaha
V50 and would like to sent this to the synth. How do i
do that?
greetings

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[Jsynthlib-devel] Some changes to the core

[Robert W. <wi...@op...>]

Hello, I made some changes to the core some time ago, which I found  
necessary and helpful. They can be grabbed from http:// 
jsynthlib.republika.pl/wirski.txt.zip in diff patch format. Perhaps,  
someone could see it and decide if they are worth adding to cvs. I  
also made Yamaha 01v and Novation Super Bass Station librarians. Or,  
if you find my code good, I can become a developer and do it myself.  
Notice however that I am new to Java.
Regards,
Robert Wirski

Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] Anti spam actions

[David G. <dg...@cs...>]

On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, Joachim Backhaus wrote:

> Hi @all,
>
> I'm now the admin of this mailing list and set some options which
> hopefully stop the spam flood:
>
> 1. New users will be moderated.
> 2. Non-members cannot post anymore and will get a rejection message
> that they should subscribe first.
>
> Cheers,
> Joachim

YAY!!!  Anything new about jsynthlib to tell us?

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[Jsynthlib-devel] Anti spam actions

[Joachim B. <jba...@pi...>]

Hi @all,

I'm now the admin of this mailing list and set some options which
hopefully stop the spam flood:

1. New users will be moderated.
2. Non-members cannot post anymore and will get a rejection message
that they should subscribe first.

Cheers,
Joachim

Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] Please list your current development status

[Roger W. <rog...@gm...>]

Hello,

I have a driver for the Roland D-10 which which probably needs some last 
finishing touch before submitting. I just have to pull myself together and 
do that, should have been done way back really.

/ Roger

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From: "Joachim Backhaus" <jba...@pi...>
To: <jsy...@li...>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:18 AM
Subject: [Jsynthlib-devel] Please list your current development status


> Hi,
>
> I'm now a project admin and I think we all would like
> to if someone has currently a development going on.
>
> My current status is:
> All JSynthLib development projects frozen for over one year
> and it doesn't look good for the future because I started
> an  engagement with synth-DIY which makes for fun then sitting
> in front of a computer in the free time, too.
>
> But I have enough time to do a little project admin stuff.
>
> Cheers,
> Joachim
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