Re: [Jmri-developers] Migration of this list to Groups.io - proposal

[Matthew H. <mat...@gm...>]

Dear all,

Given that there has been a flurry of activity on this list, we will wait
for that to calm down before placing this list in read-only mode.

As a reminder, it is necessary for anyone wishing to follow/participate in
JMRI developer discussion to manually subscribe to the new list via web at
https://jmri-developers.groups.io/g/jmri/join or emailing
jmr...@jm...

This is due to SF no longer allowing us to access or export the subscriber
list.

Current plan is to switch THIS list (on SourceForge) to read-only mode some
time around 20h00 UTC today (6th December).

After that time, conversations should take place on the groups.io list.

The list archive will remain here, but we will organise an import of the
archive to groups.io in the meantime.

Best regards,

Matt H


On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 23:44, Bob Jacobsen via Jmri-developers <
jmr...@li...> wrote:

> First, I’d like to thank Matt for thinking all this through.
>
> This sounds like a plan that we should implement sooner rather than
> later.
>
> Bob
>
> > On Nov 29, 2018, at 1:32 AM, Matthew Harris <
> mat...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > As some of you may recall, over the last few years, we've been
> experiencing several issues with various aspects of the SourceForge
> infrastructure which has resulted in us migrating the majority of our
> development tool set away to other alternatives.
> >
> > Today, the last parts of the JMRI development tool set that still rely
> on SourceForge are a few of our mailing lists, mainly this one and the
> 'jmri-announce' list.
> >
> > Several months ago, due to reliability issues noticed with the Yahoo!
> platform, we migrated the 'jmriusers' group from Yahoo! Groups to Groups.io.
> >
> > Around that same time, we also created a 'shadow' developers list on
> Groups.io, which was configured to receive copies of all messages posted
> here so as to already start building up an archive of recent activity.
> >
> > Our experience thus far with 'jmriusers' on Groups.io has been positive
> so the time has now come to switch over fully to Groups.io for these last
> remaining lists.
> >
> > Unfortunately, due to restrictions of the SourceForge platform, it's not
> possible for us to retrieve a list of subscribers to the various JMRI
> mailing lists, meaning that it will be necessary to manually subscribe
> yourself to the new list on Groups.io.
> >
> > As a result, there will need to be a cut over period during which
> conversations might end up happening on both lists (this has already
> happened in a few cases) so we need to define a suitable timeline for the
> cut over.
> >
> > My proposal for the cut over is as follows:
> >
> > - Encourage new sign-ups to the new jmri-developers list via web at
> https://jmri-developers.groups.io/g/jmri or by email via
> jmr...@jm...
> > - Place this list into read-only mode after a grace period (say 1 week)
> to minimise risk of conversations in both places
> > - (Optionally) transfer archive of messages from this list
> >
> > Thanks to Bob, we've got a pretty much complete archive of the messages
> from this list in a suitable format so it shouldn't be too much effort to
> get this imported into Groups.io. Given that we've already been building up
> an archive, we might end up with some duplicated messages and some out of
> order, but I'd suggest that's more of an inconvenience than anything else.
> >
> > The new list is configured as a main list (
> jm...@jm...) with sub-groups for specific purposes,
> such as commit messages and infrastructure monitoring, to which you are
> able to optionally subscribe.
> >
> > Please let me know any comments/remarks regarding this proposal so we
> can determine the best route forward.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Matt H
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