Re: [Jmol-developers] implementation vs. Chime question; live connect

[Bob H. <ha...@st...>]

Miguel wrote:

> Bob wrote:
> 
> 
>>I'd like to switch the following app to jmol. Would you please take a
>>look at it and tell me if there is anything it can do with Chime that
>>can't be done with jmol?
>>
>>http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr/jmol/pi/
> 
> 
> Unfortunatly, I do not normally have access to a system that has Chime
> installed.

Can I ask why that is? I am running Chime on Netscape and IE on a PC (despite 
the fact that the MDL installer fails to install it in Netscape for some odd 
reason). Perhaps a PC/Windows machine is not available to you?

Bob


> 
> 
>>Note that this was written in the era when both IE and Netscape had
>>dropped "live connect" so it uses a hidden frame with code such as
>>
>><embed type=application/x-spt
>> hidden=true width=10 height=10 button=push
>> target=C0_42203168433687915
>> script="select *;color group" immediate=1>
>>
>>to do all the driving.
>>
>>Q: Is there anything like this in jmol that avoids Live Connect?
> 
> 
> Yes, at Tim Driscoll's request we implemented a JmolAppletControl of type
> 'immediate' that will send the script as soon as it is loaded. This can be
> put into hidden frame (or perhaps loaded into a hidden div? ... don't
> know)
> 

OK, that would be high on my priority list--I can't restrict my code to PC-only 
here.

Bob


> 
>>Q: What's the history/future of Live Connect?
> 
> 
> I think that LiveConnect is here to stay
> 
> IE supports it on Win32 (not on Mac).
> 
> Mozilla supports it on Linux & Win32 (I don't think on Mac yet)
> 
> Safari on Panther supports it.
> 
> Konqueror on Linux supports it.
> 
> There are some bugs, but it seems pretty stable.
> 
> 
> Therefore, I suggest that you avoid using the 'immediate' hack and go
> ahead and use LiveConnect to send script commands directly to the
> JmolApplet.
> 
> Similarly, I recommend that you use HTML buttons tied to JavaScript rather
> than JmolAppletControls (the equivalent of the Chime pushbuttons).
> 
> 
>>Of course, if this app doesn't work on your setup, please let me know
>>that, too!
> 
> 
> I will see if I can find a machine where I can run it.
> 
> 
> Miguel
> 
> 
> 
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