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From: John K. <jwk...@al...> - 2025-12-13 06:13:47
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Hi Bob, This exchange reminded me about Jmol's excellent "isosurface atomicorbital" command. It works fine. However, I am attempting to automate this using the command-line options shown on the stolaf docs page, but the "-o" option seems to have no effect. In win 11 (or several Linux versions) the command "Jmol.jar -ios c:/docs/4px.scr -g300x400" gives a nice 4px orbital, but the console is still showing. What is the actual purpose of the "-o" option? John Keller P.S. The 4px.scr is as follows: background white; axes on; axes scale 1.0; set antialiasdisplay off; isosurface id atom sphere 0.15; isosurface id px4 sign phase resolution 5.0 atomicorbital 4 1 1 4 mesh nofill; rotate x -90; zoom 120; On Thu, Dec 11, 2025 at 7:48 PM Robert Hanson via Jmol-users < jmo...@li...> wrote: > Mark, if you are just examining the radial nodes in many-electron *atoms* > instead of looking at textbook hydrogen-like orbitals. We can illustrate > that. Jmol does not need MO programs to display atomic orbitals. It can > calculate them itself using the Schroedinger equation. Thus the > > isosurface ATOMICORBITAL n l m Zeff > > option. > > [image: image.png] > > The Zeff is what you are looking for. This is the effective nuclear > charge. The idea is that each orbital shell - 1s 2s 2p 3s 3p 3d .... when > fully occupied is a spherical electron density. And for any atom with more > than one electron, we can approximate the effect of more than one electron > by positing an "effective" nuclear charge (Z_eff) that roughly accounts for > shielding the positive charge in the nucleus in atoms from the outermost > electrons. The shielding is not perfect of course. But there are tables of > these Z_eff for the elements. See [ > https://chem.libretexts.org/Courses/Saint_Marys_College_Notre_Dame_IN/CHEM_342%3A_Bio-inorganic_Chemistry/Readings/Week_1%3A_Analysis_of_Periodic_Trends/1.1%3A_Concepts_and_principles_that_explain_periodic_trends/1.1.2%3A_Effective_Nuclear_Charge#:~:text=simple%20rules > ] > > for example. So you can change that parameter at will and at least > visualize how, for example, the 1s core electrons are very close to the > nucleus, on average, compared to the 3s orbital electron in sodium. > > Since the shielding is not perfect (3s orbital still has some electron > density near the nucleus, just not much), 3s orbitals for Na are larger > than the 3s orbital for H,. In contrast, the 1s core orbital electron > density is way closer to the nucleus in Na than in H (Z_eff 10.63 vs Z_eff > 1). But going across the periodic table, Z_eff, just as Z, is increasing > even for the valence orbitals, so we see this effective atomic radius > trending smaller and smaller as we go from left to right along a period. > > > As for the function that could be plotted as radial electron density, I > think you can probably find those somewhere. > > > (Zeff = 6) > (Zeff = 8) > > [image: image.png] [image: image.png] > > That said, I think the documentation is misleading there. The Zeff=6 "for > carbon" is only true for the 1s core orbital there. The Zeff for an element > is different for different orbitals with, for example, 2p having higher > Zeff than 2s, because 2p orbitals don't have the radial node that 2s > orbitals have and so are effectively closer to the nucleus, on average. > Jmol does not maintain this table, though it certainly could. > > Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users > |