[Jmol-developers] Jmol name confusion

[Miguel <mi...@jm...>]

Will,

I reread your message and understand your concern about confusion over th=
e
name Jmol.

I would like to work together to arrive at an equitable agreement.

>>> I have written to the administrators of the Jmol project in
>>> the past regarding this, but I have received no reply.
>
> If we overlooked a message from you then I sincerely apologize; it was =
not
> intentional.

I have given this a little more thought. I searched both the jmol-users
and jmol-developers mailing lists ... the archives go back to Apr 2001 ..=
.
and there have been no postings from uga.edu. However, postings have been=

restricted to list members for the past few years, so if you posted a
message then it may have been rejected as SPAM and not made it to the
list.

If you sent a message to me personally, then my SPAM filter may have
killed it or I may have inadvertently pulled the delete trigger too
quickly.

Regardless, I apologize again that you felt we were unresponsive to your
attempts to make contact regarding this issue.

Dan Gezelter wrote:
>> and since then it has been handed over to Egon Willighagen in 2002.
>> Egon and Miguel Howard are the ones in charge of the website and the
>> code these days.

Yes, Egon and I are in charge of jmol.org (jmol.sourceforge.net) these da=
ys.

>> I can only suggest three solutions (one reasonable, one difficult, and=

>> one silly):
>>
>>    1) have both sites link to each other,
>>    2) change one or both of the names, or
>>    3) use =22Jmol=22 for the sourceforge applet and =22JMol=22 for you=
rs.
>>
>> Would everyone be happy if there was a link exchange between the
>> two sites?

Q: What are your thoughts on this? Would you like for us to put a link to=

your site on www.jmol.org (jmol.sourceforge.net) ?

>>> You may be aware that I have also written a small java applet for
>>> molecular viewing that I named Jmol in 1998, when I first wrote it.

In my case I was not aware of your project ... probably not surprising
since I had no background/training in molecular visualization. I did some=

googling before joining the jmol.sourceforge.net project, but do not
recall coming across your site.

>>> If not, you can visit my site at:
>>>
>>> http://www.ccrc.uga.edu/=7Ewill/jmol/jmol.html

Very nice=21

>>> The goals of my Jmol program were and remain quite limited:
>>> to provide a very small codebase for the graphical
>>> representation of molecular coordinate files (PDB format).
>>> This jar file containing this applet is under 14 kB, allowing
>>> it to be rapidly downloaded even over very slow connections.

The fact that you can fit it into 14K is quite amazing ... congratulation=
s=21

>>> I have recently become more aware of some confusion on the part of
>>> scientists who are interested in the graphical representation of
>>> molecular structure.  Several people have understandably thought that=

>>> my
>>> Jmol is the same as your Jmol.  I would like to remedy this situation=
,
>>> as I have no intention of claiming any credit for the great success
>>> achieved by the Jmol project  at source forge.  At the same time, I
>>> would like to let people know about my contributions to molecular
>>> visualization (including my Jmol applet).

Understood

>>> I have tried to figure out
>>> who originally had the name Jmol, but I haven't been able to find any=

>>> definitive information regarding this.
>>> I have considered changing the name of my applet, but I hesitate to d=
o
>>> so until I hear from the (source forge) Jmol developers to get your
>>> opinion.  I have written to the administrators of the Jmol project in=

>>> the past regarding this, but I have received no reply.
>>>
>>> Please let me know what you think is an appropriate solution to this
>>> situation.

I observe that your web site at the URL listed above is consistently usin=
g
JMol ... we consistently use Jmol. I suggest that we rigidly adhere to
that, especially in written correspondence and published papers. It is a
small thing, but it can help make a distinction between the two projects.=

(Dan, I don't think your suggestion =233 was all that silly :-)

If you would like, we will put link to your site on www.jmol.org &
jmol.sourceforge.net ... you could put a reciprocal link to www.jmol.org
on your site (although the file dates on your web site seem to indicate
that it hasn't been modified since 2002 ... so if you don't want to mess
with it link then perhaps it would not be necessary).


Let us know what you are thinking.



Miguel


>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Will York
>>> Associate Professor
>>> Complex Carbohydrate Research Center
>>> Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
>>> 315 Riverbend Road
>>> Athens, Georgia 30602-4712 USA
>>> Phone: 706-542-4628
>>> Fax: 706-542-4412

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