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Re: [Jabref-users] 5.0.0: adjusting column sizes

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, Oliver Kopp wrote:

>> 2. On the 'optional' page for article data entry the left column is
>> sufficiently wide but the right column is too narrow. For example, there's
>> one-character-wide box for volume number, but when I type the number with
>> the cursor in that box nothing is entered there. It is entered in the wide
>> window on the right which displays information entered on the 'required'
>> tab; the issue number shows up but not the volume number.

> Can you show me a screenshot. It looks good here:

Oliver,

Attached.

Viewing a different article's 'required' page sliding the bar to the right
exposed the full size of the data entry widgets in the middle. With the
article used in the screenshot the column headed by 'Pages' is as wide as it
will go.

Regards,

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] 5.0.0: adjusting column sizes

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, Oliver Kopp wrote:

> That would be great. So you can comment directly on the discussions.

Oliver,

As time permits. I've two clients each with needs that require my full time
attention. I'm left with little time for anything else.

> I assume, you are working on Linux with the secondary buffer.

I run Slackware-14.2/x86_64 and in the 20+ years I've used linux I've not
looked closely where highlighted text is stored until pasted elsewhere.

> This is not possible with our new graphical framework. We are tracking the
> issue at https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/issues/2389

Okay.

>> 2. On the 'optional' page for article data entry the left column is
>> sufficiently wide but the right column is too narrow. For example,
>> there's one-character-wide box for volume number, but when I type the
>> number with the cursor in that box nothing is entered there. It is
>> entered in the wide window on the right which displays information
>> entered on the 'required' tab; the issue number shows up but not the
>> volume number.

> Can you show me a screenshot. It looks good here:

I'll do that before downgrading to 4.3.1 so I can use JabRef now.

>> 3. The format for multiple authors has changed. Where I used to enter,
>> 'last_name, initials and last_name, initials and ...' now there is
>> 'last_name, initials; last_name, intials: & ...'. Should I change how I
>> enter authors to use the new syntax?
>>
>
> No, please don't the Syntax did not change.

I'll show this on the same screenshot as above.

> I don't get where you have the information from? I tried and everything
> works well:

Sometimes things work on some hardware/distribution but not on others. I've
learned that Slackware-14.2 does not fully support the Ryzen7 CPU in that
desktop and am looking forward to the release of 15.0.

Regards,

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] 5.0.0: adjusting column sizes

[Oliver K. <kop...@gm...>]

Hi,

> Reported as https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/issues/5375
> Also good. I need this capability.

That would be great. So you can comment directly on the discussions.

1. I cannot paste highlighted text from a PDF displayed using either xpdf or
> mupdf. The mouse action that pastes highlighted text in its buffer does
> nothing. This is highly inconvenient when entering abstracts and other
> text.
>

I assume, you are working on Linux with the secondary buffer.

This is not possible with our new graphical framework. We are tracking the
issue at https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/issues/2389

2. On the 'optional' page for article data entry the left column is
> sufficiently wide but the right column is too narrow. For example, there's
> one-character-wide box for volume number, but when I type the number with
> the cursor in that box nothing is entered there. It is entered in the wide
> window on the right which displays information entered on the 'required'
> tab; the issue number shows up but not the volume number.
>

Can you show me a screenshot. It looks good here:

[image: grafik.png]


> 3. The format for multiple authors has changed. Where I used to enter,
> 'last_name, initials and last_name, initials and ...' now there is
> 'last_name, initials; last_name, intials: & ...'. Should I change how I
> enter authors to use the new syntax?
>

 No, please don't the Syntax did not change.

I don't get where you have the information from?

I tried and everything works well:


[image: grafik.png]

Cheers,

Oliver

Re: [Jabref-users] 5.0.0: adjusting column sizes

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, Rich Shepard wrote:

> 2. On the 'optional' page for article data entry the left column is
> sufficiently wide but the right column is too narrow. For example, there's
> one-character-wide box for volume number, but when I type the number with
> the cursor in that box nothing is entered there. It is entered in the wide
> window on the right which displays information entered on the 'required'
> tab; the issue number shows up but not the volume number.

More on this issue: just now I tried to increase the size of the right column
in the left window (data entry). But when I used the mouse to shift the bar
between the data entry and data display windows only the left column of the
data entry window expanded.

I hope you devs have time to quickly resolve these issues.

Should I drop back to jdk8 and JabRef-4.3.1?

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] 5.0.0: adjusting column sizes

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, Oliver Kopp wrote:

> Reported at https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/issues/5374

Oliver,

Good. I'm looking forward to the update.


>> and there is no way to adjust the column widths on the database pane.

> This works here:
> [image: grafik.png]

Yes, I see that. But, I do not see a line on which to place the cursor so it
turns into a double-headed arrow.

> Reported as https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/issues/5375

Also good. I need this capability.

This morning I started adding the backlog of articles and tech reports and
discovered some issues that are removed from earlier versions:

1. I cannot paste highlighted text from a PDF displayed using either xpdf or
mupdf. The mouse action that pastes highlighted text in its buffer does
nothing. This is highly inconvenient when entering abstracts and other text.

2. On the 'optional' page for article data entry the left column is
sufficiently wide but the right column is too narrow. For example, there's
one-character-wide box for volume number, but when I type the number with
the cursor in that box nothing is entered there. It is entered in the wide
window on the right which displays information entered on the 'required'
tab; the issue number shows up but not the volume number.

3. The format for multiple authors has changed. Where I used to enter,
'last_name, initials and last_name, initials and ...' now there is
'last_name, initials; last_name, intials: & ...'. Should I change how I
enter authors to use the new syntax?

Regards,

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] 5.0.0: adjusting column sizes

[Oliver K. <kop...@gm...>]

Hey,

Am Mo., 30. Sept. 2019 um 22:23 Uhr schrieb Rich Shepard <
rsh...@ap...>:

> I'm running JabRef-5.0.0 using Oracle's jdk11.0.4. The scroll bar that used
> to be on the right side of the category pane does not display,


Reported at https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/issues/5374


> and there is
> no way to adjust the column widths on the database pane.
>

This works here:

[image: grafik.png]



>
> Have I missed something in configuring the application? If not, I encourage
> the devs to add that back in as well as the icon to copy citations and
> references to LyX documents.
>

Reported as https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/issues/5375

Cheers,

Oliver

[Jabref-users] 5.0.0: adjusting column sizes

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

I'm running JabRef-5.0.0 using Oracle's jdk11.0.4. The scroll bar that used
to be on the right side of the category pane does not display, and there is
no way to adjust the column widths on the database pane.

Have I missed something in configuring the application? If not, I encourage
the devs to add that back in as well as the icon to copy citations and
references to LyX documents.

Regards,

Rich

[Jabref-users] JabRef-5.0.0: where is LyX link?

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

I've gone through the Preferences and see the connection to export selected
references to OO.o/LO but do not see the option to add references to LyX.
Since that's the LaTeX editor I use, and I don't see an icon on the icon bar
for it, please show me how to invoke this transfer.

Regards,

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] Upgrading to 5.0.0 [RESOLVED]

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2019, Rich Shepard wrote:

> Nope. That doesn't do it.

I modified the shell script to invoke /opt/JabRef/bin/JabRef. It works. One
remaining issue on a new thread.

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] Upgrading to 5.0.0

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2019, Rich Shepard wrote:

> Think I've found the answer: copy JabRef/bin/JabRef to /usr/bin/ and execute
> that. No shell script required.

Nope. That doesn't do it.

Please advise.

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] Upgrading to 5.0.0 [RESOLVED?]

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2019, Rich Shepard wrote:

> My question is what file do I use to invoke 5.0.0?

Think I've found the answer: copy JabRef/bin/JabRef to /usr/bin/ and execute
that. No shell script required.

Rich

[Jabref-users] Upgrading to 5.0.0

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

Today I downloaded the just-release 5.0.0 *.tar.gz and upgraded jdk from 8
to 11. All prior versions of JabRef downloaded a single file e.g.,
JabRef-4.3.1.jar.

These were readily invoked using a shell script that invoked
java -jar JabRef-4.3.1.jar

When untarred the downloaded 5.0.0 provides three subdirectories: app/,
bin/, and runtime. Each contains several files. My question is what file do
I use to invoke 5.0.0?

TIA,

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] Odd behavior with version 4.3.1

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019, Oliver Kopp wrote:

> please check with 5.0 alpha, which we released 11 days ago. In case the
> issue persists, please open an issue at https://issues.jabref.org. The
> main issue coordination happens there. Thank you for your understanding 😅

Oliver,

I'll replace jdk8 with either jdk11 or openjdk11 (if it's available) and try
the latest build.

Thanks,

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] Odd behavior with version 4.3.1

[Oliver K. <kop...@gm...>]

Hey,

please check with 5.0 alpha, which we released 11 days ago. In case the
issue persists, please open an issue at https://issues.jabref.org. The main
issue coordination happens there. Thank you for your understanding 😅

Cheers,

Oliver

(Currently on holidays)

Rich Shepard <rsh...@ap...> schrieb am Do., 5. Sep. 2019, 19:49:

> I'm running JabRef-4.3.1 on Slackware-14.2/x86_64.
>
> When I click on a row to look at the entry I'm sent to a white page with a
> single line on the top with author, title, and publication rather than to
> the data entry form where I can look at all tabs.
>
> Because there is no back arrow and alt-left does nothing I need to use the
> menu View -> Focus entry table ... twice.
>
> Also, when I entered a a first author's last name in the search box the
> resulting display was as above. When I tried restoring the entry table view
> it was not in alphabetical order and clicking on the Author tab just
> switched the disorder sequence.
>
> Not sure if all this is me not doing things the way I used to do them with
> earlier versions.
>
> Rich
>
>
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[Jabref-users] Odd behavior with version 4.3.1

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

I'm running JabRef-4.3.1 on Slackware-14.2/x86_64.

When I click on a row to look at the entry I'm sent to a white page with a
single line on the top with author, title, and publication rather than to
the data entry form where I can look at all tabs.

Because there is no back arrow and alt-left does nothing I need to use the
menu View -> Focus entry table ... twice.

Also, when I entered a a first author's last name in the search box the
resulting display was as above. When I tried restoring the entry table view
it was not in alphabetical order and clicking on the Author tab just
switched the disorder sequence.

Not sure if all this is me not doing things the way I used to do them with
earlier versions.

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] Changes: 3.8.2 to 4.3.1

[Oliver K. <kop...@gm...>]

Hey,

> > Maybe, you have to write "Lastname1, F. I."?
> Using double quotes?

No, no double quotes. Just a space between the First name and the
Initial. - This is a guess, since I don't work with initials.

I would have to check the biblatex documentation.

> > Depends on your usage of JabRef. When you use Bibtex with certain bibtex
> > styles, the title automatically changes. Most users do not want that...
> I'll change styles and see if that makes a difference

See https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/328978/9075 for details.

Cheers,

Oliver

Re: [Jabref-users] Changes: 3.8.2 to 4.3.1

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, Oliver Kopp wrote:

> Greetings from JabCon (https://jabcon.jabref.org/). We are working to get
> release 5.0.0 alpha ready. It would be nice if you tried out the latest
> build: https://builds.jabref.org/master/

Oliver,

I'll try it and see if that solves the problem(s).

> In case your issues remain, it would be nice if you opened one at
> https://issues.jabref.org. This would help us getting the mass of open
> issues handled.

Okay.

> Maybe, you have to write "Lastname1, F. I."?

Using double quotes? Yet, still use 'and' between names?

> Depends on your usage of JabRef. When you use Bibtex with certain bibtex
> styles, the title automatically changes. Most users do not want that...

I'll change styles and see if that makes a difference.

> The highlights are written down at http://blog.jabref.org/.
> I think, you search for https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/blob/v4.x/CHANGELOG.md.
> In addition to our new release, following things are fixed:
> https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

I'll check these out, too.

Thanks very much,

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] Changes: 3.8.2 to 4.3.1

[Oliver K. <kop...@gm...>]

Hey,

Greetings from JabCon (https://jabcon.jabref.org/). We are working to
get release 5.0.0 alpha ready. It would be nice if you tried out the
latest build: https://builds.jabref.org/master/

Especially the UI was redesigned (again).

> I had been using JabRef-3.8.2 on the old desktop and now use JabRef-4.3.1 on
> the new desktop. I have questions about changes:

In case your issues remain, it would be nice if you opened one at
https://issues.jabref.org. This would help us getting the mass of open
issues handled.

> With multiple authors on a publication, I've always
> specified authors as 'Lastname1, F.I. and Lastname2, F.I. and ...'. JabRef's
> flag says this is not acceptable JabRef format. Why not, and what is?

Maybe, you have to write "Lastname1, F. I."?

> In the title field when uppercase letters begin words other than the first
> one JabRef tells me that they're not written within braces. Do I need to
> change all entries so that uppercase letters other than at the start of the
> title are within curly braces?

Depends on your usage of JabRef. When you use Bibtex with certain
bibtex styles, the title automatically changes. Most users do not want
that...

> 3. Is there a changelog showing all changes in 4.3.1 from earlier versions,
> specifically 3.8.2?

The highlights are written down at http://blog.jabref.org/.

I think, you search for https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/blob/v4.x/CHANGELOG.md.

In addition to our new release, following things are fixed:
https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

Cheers,

Oliver

[Jabref-users] Changes: 3.8.2 to 4.3.1

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

I had been using JabRef-3.8.2 on the old desktop and now use JabRef-4.3.1 on
the new desktop. I have questions about changes:

1. Using the JabRef -> Lyx link icon I inserted a citation in the LyX text
and the reference was inserted in the bibliography. However, when I tried to
preview the output LaTeX refused because the reference has deprecated font
syntax, specifically '\sc' and '\bf'. These have been replaced with
'\textsc' and '\textbf', respectively. How do I get JabRef to use the
accepted formats instead of the deprecated ones?

2. Looking at refereces in the JabRef UI I see small, yellow triangles by
some fields on some references. Holding the cursor over them shows me what
JabRef does not like. With multiple authors on a publication, I've always
specified authors as 'Lastname1, F.I. and Lastname2, F.I. and ...'. JabRef's
flag says this is not acceptable JabRef format. Why not, and what is?

In the title field when uppercase letters begin words other than the first
one JabRef tells me that they're not written within braces. Do I need to
change all entries so that uppercase letters other than at the start of the
title are within curly braces?

3. Is there a changelog showing all changes in 4.3.1 from earlier versions,
specifically 3.8.2?

TIA,

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] Does this group still exist?

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> Bernhard Kleine <ber...@gm...> hat am 11. Februar 2019 um 13:09 geschrieben:
> 
> 
>     "expended" is in German:.
> 
>     Is that what you mean?
> 

"expanded", sorry for the typo.

Josef Mattes 

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> > >         > > 
> >         Me too. 
> >         But given that a "group trees always expended" default was forced on us and can't be disabled, I find the newer JabRef versions quite useless. So I might have to switch to another bibliography manager at some point anyway and don't worry much about JabRef discussions any more. 
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Re: [Jabref-users] Does this group still exist?

[Daniel W. <abf...@ar...>]

Am 11.02.19 um 12:42 schrieb josef.mattes-> But given that a "group 
trees always expended" default was forced on us and can't be disabled, I 
find the newer JabRef versions quite useless. So I might have to switch 
to another bibliography manager at some point anyway
Which function do you mean? I am very grateful for the existence of Jabref.
Daniel

Re: [Jabref-users] Does this group still exist?

[Rich S. <rsh...@ap...>]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2019, Daniel Wachter wrote:

> Does this group still exist? Or is everybody now at 
> http://discourse.jabref.org/ ? I find Usenet groups more convenient than 
> http-fora.

Daniel,

It was active the last time I posted a question. I respond directly via
email because mail lists push messages to me while web fora require me to go
there, log in, and pull messages. For example this message arrived from
jab...@li....

Rich

Re: [Jabref-users] Does this group still exist?

[Bernhard K. <ber...@gm...>]

"expended" is in German:.

Is that what you mean?


Am 11.02.2019 um 12:42 schrieb jos...@ch...
jos...@ch...:
>> Daniel Wachter <abf...@ar...> hat am 11. Februar 2019 um 10:16 geschrieben:
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>> Does this group still exist? Or is everybody now at 
>> http://discourse.jabref.org/ ? I find Usenet groups more convenient than 
>> http-fora.
> Me too. 
> But given that a "group trees always expended" default was forced on us and can't be disabled, I find the newer JabRef versions quite useless. So I might have to switch to another bibliography manager at some point anyway and don't worry much about JabRef discussions any more. 
>
> Josef
>
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>> Daniel
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Re: [Jabref-users] Does this group still exist?

[<jos...@ch...>]

> Daniel Wachter <abf...@ar...> hat am 11. Februar 2019 um 10:16 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> Does this group still exist? Or is everybody now at 
> http://discourse.jabref.org/ ? I find Usenet groups more convenient than 
> http-fora.

Me too. 
But given that a "group trees always expended" default was forced on us and can't be disabled, I find the newer JabRef versions quite useless. So I might have to switch to another bibliography manager at some point anyway and don't worry much about JabRef discussions any more. 

Josef


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[Jabref-users] Does this group still exist?

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Hello,
Does this group still exist? Or is everybody now at 
http://discourse.jabref.org/ ? I find Usenet groups more convenient than 
http-fora.
Daniel