ipodlinux-devel

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] gen 4

[Philipp P. <phi...@gm...>]

I would use "ephpod" (its a schmall windows program)

http://www.ephpod.com/

to copy the mp3 files to the ipod! you can even make an ephpod folder, with=
in=20
you place some directory references(is this the correct english word?) and =
if=20
ephpod is correctly configured just pressing on the sync and quit button in=
=20
the start-programm-menu  is doing everything for you!
have fun!

On Saturday 25 December 2004 20:44, Peter wrote:
> Hi,
>      A friend of mine got an ipod for christmas and he wanted me to put
> some music in it.  Problem is, I use an old Mac OS 9 computer for
> playing mp3s, my OS X laptop has no mp3s on it and no room for them, my
> windows computer refuses to run iTunes, it just quits instantly,
> (possibly because it doesn't like my driver debugger, I need to try it
> without that loaded).  And none of my linux or BSD computers have any
> mp3s either.  It seems the only way I can put mp3s on his computer
> would be to ftp them like 10 at a time from the OS 9 to the OS X and
> then copy them from there to the ipod which is a pain in the ass and
> then if he wants to use any other computer to get songs, he can't
> because they're limited to one computer.
>
>     I think its an ipod mini which would mean gen 4?  Its small, 20 GB,
> "MP000 Model: MP102" on the back.  The "About screen" says Version
> 3.0.1 Model PE435 A, I take the "435" to mean gen 4.
>
>    I told him I'm sure there are hacks on the web to fix all these
> issues, and that I heard you could put linux on them.  But then I see
> that you don't have gen 4 yet.  What would happen if I tried the OS X
> gui linux loader and tried to put linux on this probable gen 4 ipod?
> Would it just not work?  Would it mess things up?  Could I reinstall
> the firm ware?  What's the stumbling point for getting the code to work
> on it?  Is gen 4 firmware totally different or is it just that you
> haven't tested it yet?
>
>     I'm hoping you'll tell me, that you don't know if it works or not
> and that I should try the loader with some debug flag on and that the
> loader is capable of reloading the apple firmware in case of screw ups.
>   My friend isn't going to be here for very long so please email me back
> as soon as possible.  Thanks and you should put the exact reasons why
> the gen 4's don't work on your wiki for future googlers.  When I read
> "unsupported", I sometimes think "works but extremely buggy".
>
>                       - Peter
>
>
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=2D-=20

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Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] gen 4

[Tom P. <to...@ca...>]

Peter <pet...@si...> wrote:

>     A friend of mine got an ipod for christmas and he wanted me to put
>some music in it.  Problem is, I use an old Mac OS 9 computer for
>playing mp3s, my OS X laptop has no mp3s on it and no room for them, my

If you can mount the mp3s on a linux (or maybe os x) machine then you can use
SyncPOD http://freshmeat.net/projects/syncpod/ which simply copies a directory
of mp3s onto the ipod with the appropriate database manipulations. There are
also a number of other such programs to copy mp3s to the ipod from linux. You
can't just copy the mp3s on with cp, you have to put them in a special
place and create a database that the ipod uses to generate the menus and find
the files in it's filesystem (it doesn't do this itself when it boots).

If os 9 doesn't allow you to share the mp3s on a network, then maybe one of
the linux ftp filesystems will work?

If you have less than 10GB of mp3s to sync, mount the ipod on your linux box.
ftp the mp3s to the ipod and put them in a temporary directory. Then use
syncpod to sync them from the temp directory on the ipod to the ipod's own
structure (which will copy them, hence you can only use half the ipod). Then
delete the temporary directory if you want to use the ipod to sneakernet
other random files.

The only issue is that SyncPOD is such that if you delete the source
directory, it will sync this change and delete all the music on the ipod --
it's designed to sync your computer's collection with the ipod. This is a
problem if you want to sync more songs after you have deleted the
temporary directory.

--
Tom Parker - to...@ca...
           - http://www.carrott.org

[Ipodlinux-devel] gen 4

[Peter <pet...@si...>]

Hi,
     A friend of mine got an ipod for christmas and he wanted me to put 
some music in it.  Problem is, I use an old Mac OS 9 computer for 
playing mp3s, my OS X laptop has no mp3s on it and no room for them, my 
windows computer refuses to run iTunes, it just quits instantly, 
(possibly because it doesn't like my driver debugger, I need to try it 
without that loaded).  And none of my linux or BSD computers have any 
mp3s either.  It seems the only way I can put mp3s on his computer 
would be to ftp them like 10 at a time from the OS 9 to the OS X and 
then copy them from there to the ipod which is a pain in the ass and 
then if he wants to use any other computer to get songs, he can't 
because they're limited to one computer.

    I think its an ipod mini which would mean gen 4?  Its small, 20 GB, 
"MP000 Model: MP102" on the back.  The "About screen" says Version 
3.0.1 Model PE435 A, I take the "435" to mean gen 4.

   I told him I'm sure there are hacks on the web to fix all these 
issues, and that I heard you could put linux on them.  But then I see 
that you don't have gen 4 yet.  What would happen if I tried the OS X 
gui linux loader and tried to put linux on this probable gen 4 ipod?  
Would it just not work?  Would it mess things up?  Could I reinstall 
the firm ware?  What's the stumbling point for getting the code to work 
on it?  Is gen 4 firmware totally different or is it just that you 
haven't tested it yet?

    I'm hoping you'll tell me, that you don't know if it works or not 
and that I should try the loader with some debug flag on and that the 
loader is capable of reloading the apple firmware in case of screw ups. 
  My friend isn't going to be here for very long so please email me back 
as soon as possible.  Thanks and you should put the exact reasons why 
the gen 4's don't work on your wiki for future googlers.  When I read 
"unsupported", I sometimes think "works but extremely buggy".

                      - Peter

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] Partition Information

[Paul B. <pa...@co...>]

On Friday 12 November 2004 03:13, Frogbert Gladstone wrote:
> After successfully borking my entire Ipod by using the windows linux
> installer I am at a loss at what to do. I have a number of theorys
> that each require a little bit of assistance from you people.
>
> The situation is this, the Ipod (3g 20gb) boots, shows the apple logo,
> then promptly shows the folder with the x above it. It says like that
> for a few seconds, reboots and trys again. I can't seem to force it
> into disk mode but perhaps i'm doing it wrong (Resetting by turning
> hold on/off then holding menu and play pause. Then I hold ff and
> rewind when the apple logo appears) or whether it resets before I have
> a change to do it properly.

Are you sure it's a 3g ipod? If it's a 4g (clickwheel) ipod you need to hold 
down select and play as it reboots to get into disk mode.

> If I plug it into the firewire port I get a do not disconnect message
> followed by a tick and a safe to disconnect message. The same thing
> happens with the usb cord however the computer claims it has an
> unknown usb device attached.
>
> My first question is, is the disk mode code stored on the hard disk or
> the bios? If it is on the hard disk it is conceivable I ca'nt get into
> it because I've overwritten something bad.

The disk-mode code is stored is part of the ipod bios, and is not stored on 
the disk.

> Assuming I am going about getting into disk mode all wrong and I can
> get into it, I could possibly use the apple update to fix the
> partitions no?

Yes.

> If I cant get into disk mode it looks like I'm going to have to open

You should be able to get it into disk mode. If it's in continuous-reboot mode 
as you describe above you should just need to hold the magic keypress (ff+rew 
or select+play) for 10-20 seconds.

Paul

[Ipodlinux-devel] Partition Information

[Frogbert G. <fro...@gm...>]

After successfully borking my entire Ipod by using the windows linux
installer I am at a loss at what to do. I have a number of theorys
that each require a little bit of assistance from you people.

The situation is this, the Ipod (3g 20gb) boots, shows the apple logo,
then promptly shows the folder with the x above it. It says like that
for a few seconds, reboots and trys again. I can't seem to force it
into disk mode but perhaps i'm doing it wrong (Resetting by turning
hold on/off then holding menu and play pause. Then I hold ff and
rewind when the apple logo appears) or whether it resets before I have
a change to do it properly.

If I plug it into the firewire port I get a do not disconnect message
followed by a tick and a safe to disconnect message. The same thing
happens with the usb cord however the computer claims it has an
unknown usb device attached.

My first question is, is the disk mode code stored on the hard disk or
the bios? If it is on the hard disk it is conceivable I ca'nt get into
it because I've overwritten something bad.

Assuming I am going about getting into disk mode all wrong and I can
get into it, I could possibly use the apple update to fix the
partitions no?

If I cant get into disk mode it looks like I'm going to have to open
my Ipod up and take the hard disk out, as far as I can tell its a
reasonably stock standard PCMCIA hard disk so I should be able to then
plug it into my laptop, and assuming the backups the windows installer
are of any use, restore my Ipod, failing that perhaps the data is
stored in the upgrade program somewhere *Fingers crossed*.

Will I have to repartition the whole lot, (I have linux)  and if so
what are the sizes/file formats?

Would the upgrade work if I just formatted the disk? Would it allow me
into disk mode then?

And Suggestions?

Fwd: [Ipodlinux-devel] Podzilla Information

[COH M. <coh...@gm...>]

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: COH MapApp <coh...@gm...>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:05:38 -0700
Subject: Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] Podzilla Information
To: Hung Doan <hun...@gm...>


The main site is http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/

The forums on that site and the irc channel #ipodlinux
(irc.freenode.net) are the primary communication channels.




On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:26:02 -0700, Hung Doan <hun...@gm...> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> We are a group looking to work with the iPod Linux and we were just
> curious about whether or not the Podzilla interface is an open source
> or not, and where we can find the main site for the Podzilla
> development. Thank you
>
> Pod Engineering
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[Ipodlinux-devel] Podzilla Information

[Hung D. <hun...@gm...>]

Greetings,

We are a group looking to work with the iPod Linux and we were just
curious about whether or not the Podzilla interface is an open source
or not, and where we can find the main site for the Podzilla
development. Thank you


Pod Engineering

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] porting information

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

Hi Royce,

at the moment there is a goog bit of data about how the ipod works as
well as how our software works but its a little scattered and
unorganised.  It is getting better (we're currently putting together a
wiki in the hope that this helps!) but in the mean time you'll have to
go to the various sources to find what you're after.

In the forums <http://ipodlinux.sf.net/forums> there are many posts
where various parts are discussed.  There's a lot in there but the
signal to noise ratio is fairly low.

The mail archive <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ipodlinux-devel> has
been much quieter since the forums were started but there are probably a
few interesting posts in there.

Beyond that you have the actual source code, this is all available in
CVS.  The linux kernel is lin the 'linux' module but most of the
interesting parts are in 'linux/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod' and
'linux/include/asm-armnommu/arch-ipod'.

The bootloader can be found in tools/ipodloader.

The current user interface can be found in tools/podzilla.

The other resource we have is the irc channel (#ipodlinux on freenode). 
There are often 1 or two people online that can chat about ipodlinux.

Since you've just bought your iPod, I'd assume you have a 4th generation
or mini.  This means that nothing we have actually will run on your
model.  We're working at getting some good code to reverse engineer but
its taking some time.

cheers,
bern.

On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 12:52, Royce Ausburn wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I just bought an ipod and I'm anxious to see what I can make the little 
> beast do...
> 
> Can anyone here direct me to some literature on how I might go about 
> learning how the firmware works, writing bootloaders, porting the kernel to 
> this architecture, etc.  I understand what needs to be done, I just don't 
> know how to go about doing it...
> 
> I'm new to 'reverse engineering', but willing to learn.  I'll be a CS 
> graduate at the end of this year, starting honours, and I have much 
> experience coding in assember (z80, but the point is that it's not scary for 
> me =p).  Ideally someone here could just tell me what to do, but if that 
> doesn't happen, I'll work it out for myself =)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --Royce Ausburn
> 
> 
> 
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[Ipodlinux-devel] porting information

[Royce A. <esa...@ho...>]

Greetings,

I just bought an ipod and I'm anxious to see what I can make the little 
beast do...

Can anyone here direct me to some literature on how I might go about 
learning how the firmware works, writing bootloaders, porting the kernel to 
this architecture, etc.  I understand what needs to be done, I just don't 
know how to go about doing it...

I'm new to 'reverse engineering', but willing to learn.  I'll be a CS 
graduate at the end of this year, starting honours, and I have much 
experience coding in assember (z80, but the point is that it's not scary for 
me =p).  Ideally someone here could just tell me what to do, but if that 
doesn't happen, I'll work it out for myself =)

Thanks,

--Royce Ausburn

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] RE: Partial success with g4 ipod

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

There is still a fair way to go before the kernel will boot on the 4th
gen.  Unfortunately the memory map seems to be completely different so
we need to do quite a bit of reverse engineering work.

On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 09:03, COH MapApp wrote:
> Paul,
> 
> That is great news!  Unfortunately, though, I cannot get the kernel to
> compile on my XP machine(before or after your changes).  If you have a
> minute, could you send me(cohmapapp aaaaaaaattttttt gmail
> ddddddddddoooooooottttt com) a binary version of the kernel with your
> changes?
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 
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[Ipodlinux-devel] RE: Partial success with g4 ipod

[COH M. <coh...@gm...>]

Paul,

That is great news!  Unfortunately, though, I cannot get the kernel to
compile on my XP machine(before or after your changes).  If you have a
minute, could you send me(cohmapapp aaaaaaaattttttt gmail
ddddddddddoooooooottttt com) a binary version of the kernel with your
changes?

Thanks,
John

[Ipodlinux-devel] Partial success with g4 ipod

[Paul B. <pa...@co...>]

I'm happy to report partial success getting ipodlinux to boot on a g4 ipod.

As has been noted previously, these use a different firmware image format.

Fortunately it looks like the differences are trivial. The format is the same 
as previous ipods, just with 512 bytes of padding added to the start of the 
image.

I can now load modified firmware, but the memory map seems significantly 
different, hence "partial success".

So far I've determined that main memory is at 0x1000000, on-chip ram is at 
0x40000000, and the cpu id is stored at 0x60000000. 

Below are my changes to make_fw, and primitive attempts to get the bootloader 
working. I disabled most of the bootloader code as it just crashes, 
presumably because the address of the devices has changed. The bootloader 
still doesn't load the apple firmware properly. The menu works ok, but music 
doesn't play. I guess this means the coprocessor isn't handled properly.

Paul

diff -u ipodloader-src-0.3.1/loader.c my_ipodloader/loader.c
--- ipodloader-src-0.3.1/loader.c 2004-03-24 18:15:44.000000000 +0000
+++ my_ipodloader/loader.c 2004-09-26 19:51:35.000000000 +0100
@@ -110,18 +136,23 @@
     image_t *tblp = boot_table;
     void *entry;
 
     display_image(&tux_hdr, 0x0);
 
+#if 0
     init_keyboard();
     imageno = key_pressed();
-
+#else
+    imageno = 0;
+#endif
     if (!tblp[imageno].type) imageno = 0;
     tblp += imageno;
     entry = tblp->addr + tblp->entryOffset;
-    if (imageno || tblp->addr != (void *)0x28000000) {
- memmove16(tblp->addr, tblp->addr + tblp->devOffset - 0x4400, 
+#if 0
+    if (imageno || tblp->addr != (void *)0x10000000) {
+ memmove16(tblp->addr, tblp->addr + tblp->devOffset - 0x4600, 
   tblp->len);
     }
+#endif
 
     return entry;
 }
diff -u ipodloader-src-0.3.1/Makefile my_ipodloader/Makefile
--- ipodloader-src-0.3.1/Makefile 2004-03-24 18:15:44.000000000 +0000
+++ my_ipodloader/Makefile 2004-09-26 03:20:35.000000000 +0100
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 #! /usr/bin/make -f
 
-CROSS =arm-elf-
+CROSS =arm-none-elf-
 
 AS =$(CROSS)as
 CC =$(CROSS)gcc
diff -u ipodloader-src-0.3.1/make_fw.c my_ipodloader/make_fw.c
--- ipodloader-src-0.3.1/make_fw.c 2004-03-24 18:15:44.000000000 +0000
+++ my_ipodloader/make_fw.c 2004-09-26 03:27:53.000000000 +0100
@@ -29,6 +29,13 @@
 #include <unistd.h>
 
 #define TBL 0x4200
+/* Define to a nonzero value to generate firmware for a 4th generation
+   (clickwheel) ipod.  */
+#define G4 1
+
+/* Some firmwares have padding becore the actual image.  */
+#define IMAGE_PADDING (G4 ? 0x200 : 0)
+#define FIRST_OFFSET (TBL + 0x200 + IMAGE_PADDING)
 
 int be;
 
@@ -96,7 +103,7 @@
     "  -i|-l: create new image to outfile\n"
     "         up to 5 images, any of -i or -l allowed\n"
     "         -i: image extracted with -e, load and entry address 
preserved\n"
-    "         -l: raw image, loaded to 0x28000000, entry at 0x00000000\n"
+    "         -l: raw image, loaded to 0x10000000, entry at 0x00000000\n"
     "      -r: set master revision to rev (for example 210 for 2.10)\n"
     "             may be needed if newest -e img is not the same as the flash 
rev\n"
     "         ldr_img is the iPodLinux loader binary.\n"
@@ -182,11 +189,14 @@
 {
     image_t *image;
     unsigned char buf[512];
+    unsigned off;
     
     image = (image_t *)buf;
     if (load_entry(image, f, TBL, idx) == -1)
  return -1;
-    if (fseek(f, image->devOffset, SEEK_SET) == -1) {
+    off = image->devOffset + IMAGE_PADDING;
+
+    if (fseek(f, off, SEEK_SET) == -1) {
  fprintf(stderr, "fseek failed: %s\n", strerror(errno));
  return -1;
     }
@@ -196,7 +206,7 @@
  fprintf(stderr, "fseek failed: %s\n", strerror(errno));
  return -1;
     }
-    if (copysum(f, out, image->len, image->devOffset) == -1)
+    if (copysum(f, out, image->len, off) == -1)
  return -1;
   
     return 0;
@@ -245,7 +255,7 @@
  { '\0', '\0', '\0', '\0' }, // pad
  0x4400,       // devOffset
  0,       // len
- 0x28000000,      // addr
+ 0x10000000,      // addr
  0,       // entry
  0,       // chksum
  0,       // vers
@@ -307,7 +317,7 @@
   }
   if (load_entry(images + images_done, in, 0, 0) == -1)
       return 1;
-  if (!offset) offset = 0x4400;
+  if (!offset) offset = FIRST_OFFSET;
   else offset = (offset + 0x1ff) & ~0x1ff;
   images[images_done].devOffset = offset;
   if (fseek(out, offset, SEEK_SET) == -1) {
@@ -335,7 +345,7 @@
       fprintf(stderr, "Cannot open linux image file %s\n", optarg);
       return 1;
   }
-  if (!offset) offset = 0x4400;
+  if (!offset) offset = FIRST_OFFSET;
   else offset = (offset + 0x1ff) & ~0x1ff;
   images[images_done] = image;
   images[images_done].devOffset = offset;
@@ -408,10 +418,11 @@
      return 1;
     }
     if (version) image.vers = version;
-    image.len = offset + len - 0x4400;
-    image.entryOffset = offset - 0x4400;
-    if ((image.chksum = copysum(out, NULL, image.len, 0x4400)) == -1)
+    image.len = offset + len - FIRST_OFFSET;
+    image.entryOffset = offset - FIRST_OFFSET;
+    if ((image.chksum = copysum(out, NULL, image.len, FIRST_OFFSET)) == -1)
  return 1;
+
     if (fseek(out, 0x0, SEEK_SET) == -1) {
  fprintf(stderr, "fseek failed: %s\n", strerror(errno));
  return 1;
@@ -430,7 +441,10 @@
  fprintf(stderr, "fwrite failed: %s\n", strerror(errno));
  return 1;
     }
-    version = switch_32(0x0002010c); /* magic */
+    if (G4)
+      version = switch_32(0x0003010c); /* magic */
+    else
+      version = switch_32(0x0002010c); /* magic */
     if (fwrite(&version, 4, 1, out) != 1) {
  fprintf(stderr, "fwrite failed: %s\n", strerror(errno));
  return 1;
diff -u ipodloader-src-0.3.1/startup.s my_ipodloader/startup.s
--- ipodloader-src-0.3.1/startup.s 2004-03-24 18:15:44.000000000 +0000
+++ my_ipodloader/startup.s 2004-09-26 14:03:48.000000000 +0100
@@ -7,7 +7,8 @@
  * published by the Free Software Foundation.
  */
 
-        .equ    C_PROCESSOR_ID, 0xc4000000
+/*G4HACK:        .equ    C_PROCESSOR_ID, 0xc4000000*/
+        .equ    C_PROCESSOR_ID, 0x60000000
         .equ    C_CPU_SLEEP, 0xca
         .equ    C_CPU_WAKE, 0xce
         .equ    C_CPU_ID, 0x55

[Ipodlinux-devel] Extra iPod feature question

[Hung D. <hun...@gm...>]

To ipodlinux developers:

I am appreciative and amaze at all of the work that every developer,
especially Bernard Leach, have contribute to the development of
porting Linux over to the iPod. Regarding myself, I am planning on
implementing as a part of my senior project at San Jose State
University, the feature to transfer music by firewire from one iPod to
iPod directly using ipodlinux. This project will consist of 3 other
computer-engineering undergraduates. Should there be anything that we
must watch for when doing this project in relating to uClinux and is
it accomplishable within a period of 2 semesters? Thanks everyone.



Hung Doan
hun...@gm...

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] G4 iPod Experiences

[<le...@bo...>]

The PP5020 should not be too big a problem, infact it should
mean Linux runs somewhat better on the iPod (and the USB
on-the-go possibilities are quite cool too).

The real sticking point is that the 4g shares the new
firmware image format that was introduced with the mini. 
Sofar this has not been reverse enginered and so we can't
run custom applications (e.g. the linux kernel) on these
models.  If that problem were solved it probably would boot
(depending on how backward compatible the '020 is of
course).

cheers,
bern.

----- Original Message Follows -----
From: Jonathan Wang <jt...@MI...>
To: ipo...@li...
Subject: Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] G4 iPod Experiences
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:28:59 -0400

> Ah, upon more searching it appears that the G4 iPod shares
> the PP5020   SoC with the iPod mini. Disassembly photos
> at: http://www.ipoding.com/modules.php? 
> set_albumName=album11&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&i
> nclude=view_al  bum.php
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On Jul 22, 2004, at 10:49 PM, Jonathan Wang wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I tried loading iPodLinux onto a new 20GB 4th generation
> > iPod from   both MacOS 10.3.4 and RHEL 3 following the
> > instructions in the   installation guide at  
> > http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/installation.shtml
> >
> > Both attempts failed; the iPod fails to boot. The Apple
> > logo is first   displayed, followed by a folder with a
> caution sign on it. >
> > I'm interested in contributing to the project; how can I
> help? >
> > Thanks,
> > Jonathan
> >
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Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] G4 iPod Experiences

[Jonathan W. <jt...@MI...>]

Ah, upon more searching it appears that the G4 iPod shares the PP5020  
SoC with the iPod mini. Disassembly photos at:
http://www.ipoding.com/modules.php? 
set_albumName=album11&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_al 
bum.php

Jonathan

On Jul 22, 2004, at 10:49 PM, Jonathan Wang wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I tried loading iPodLinux onto a new 20GB 4th generation iPod from  
> both MacOS 10.3.4 and RHEL 3 following the instructions in the  
> installation guide at  
> http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/installation.shtml
>
> Both attempts failed; the iPod fails to boot. The Apple logo is first  
> displayed, followed by a folder with a caution sign on it.
>
> I'm interested in contributing to the project; how can I help?
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
>
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[Ipodlinux-devel] G4 iPod Experiences

[Jonathan W. <jt...@MI...>]

Hi all,

I tried loading iPodLinux onto a new 20GB 4th generation iPod from both 
MacOS 10.3.4 and RHEL 3 following the instructions in the installation 
guide at http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/installation.shtml

Both attempts failed; the iPod fails to boot. The Apple logo is first 
displayed, followed by a folder with a caution sign on it.

I'm interested in contributing to the project; how can I help?

Thanks,
Jonathan

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] New iTunes Browser

[Jens T. <jl...@sh...>]

The Podzilla source is in CVS:
$ cvs -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/ipodlinux login
$ cvs -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/ipodlinux co tools/podzilla

There is a patch to microwindows in tools/microwindows .

Thanks for your help.
Jens

On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 07:11:10PM -0600, Greg Haerr wrote:
> : The strings are all stored as UTF8 to save space and speed up
> : processing. I tried printing them correctly with microwindows using
> : GR_TFUTF8 as an argument to GrText but then no text at all was drawn.
> : Perhaps someone else knows
> : how to make microwindows render UTF8 text.
> 
> I just joined the list, and am here to help...  For some reason
> I couldn't find the source for the Podzilla, just binaries.
> 
> I'm the Microwindows maintainer, so I'd be happy to look into
> this, and wanted to check out Podzilla anyways.  Send me a
> URL for the source, and I can check the diff and let you 
> know how to get UTF8 text display running with Microwindows.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Greg
> 

-- 
Jens Taprogge

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] New iTunes Browser

[Greg H. <gr...@ce...>]

: The strings are all stored as UTF8 to save space and speed up
: processing. I tried printing them correctly with microwindows using
: GR_TFUTF8 as an argument to GrText but then no text at all was drawn.
: Perhaps someone else knows
: how to make microwindows render UTF8 text.

I just joined the list, and am here to help...  For some reason
I couldn't find the source for the Podzilla, just binaries.

I'm the Microwindows maintainer, so I'd be happy to look into
this, and wanted to check out Podzilla anyways.  Send me a
URL for the source, and I can check the diff and let you 
know how to get UTF8 text display running with Microwindows.

Regards,

Greg

[Ipodlinux-devel] New iTunes Browser

[Jens T. <jl...@sh...>]

I have developed a new iTunesDB browser for podzilla.

It provides browsing by song, artist and album so far. Adding other
options is real easy however. The data is stored in binary trees to
enable sorting (right now a simple alphabetical / track-number based
algorithm is used). 

The data is extracted from the iTunesDB file using libitunesdb 
( http://shamrock.dyndns.org/~ln/ipod/libitunesdb_0.4.tar.gz -- see the
README for notes on compiling ).

So far the parsing of the db is rather slow. It takes about 30 seconds
for parsing, sorting, etc. of an 2285 song db. I think it is due to the
fact that a lot of malloc()s/free()s are used. If that guess is correct
I should be able to speed things up quite a bit.

The strings are all stored as UTF8 to save space and speed up
processing. I tried printing them correctly with microwindows using
GR_TFUTF8 as an argument to GrText but then no text at all was drawn.
I did not look much into the problem however. Perhaps someone else knows
how to make microwindows render UTF8 text.

Please let me know what you think of the patch.

Best Regards
Jens Taprogge

The patch can be found at:
http://shamrock.dyndns.org/~ln/ipod/podzilla_20040716.diff 
-- 
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[Ipodlinux-devel] 3g disassemble

[Tachyon <sh...@si...>]

Hello, everyone.  What are you using to disassemble?  Could you please post
your symbols so far?  I own a 3g and am interested in getting it fully supported.

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] audio recording

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

Thanks for the feedback.  Yesterday I changed some buffering in podzilla
which seemed to help a little.  There is also a small change to the
audio driver which I am testing which seems to help but hopefully we can
get it to record smoothly.

The headphone jack on the iPod is connected to the audio chips
microphone input and this in mono only.  The line-in is full stereo
though.

I'm not sure how the iTalk or Belkin microphone actually switches the
iPod to recording mode but I would guess that it uses some extra
signalling via the remote port.  As long as the mic records without the
iPod asking it to start it should work fine with Linux.

cheers,
bern.

On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 17:02, Mathieu wrote:
> I tested your work ! It is a very good work ! Good job !
> I tested with a 3.5 mm jack microphone in the connector for the headphone..
> but when we play the sound there is some noise in the backround.. I don't
> know if it is my microphone or your program...
> I have a question: is it possible to record in stereo mode with the headset
> connector or it is only available on the line out.. (I think about hardware
> capabilities).. ?
> 
> I have no Ipod microphone to test that but I think that it wouldn't function
> because there is a microphone AND a speaker in the device, so i think that
> the ipod send a command by the serial port of the remote controle to the
> microphone to switch "in microphone mode"... It's just supposition :) !
> 
> cheers,
> Mathieu
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bernard Leach" <le...@bo...>
> To: <ipo...@li...>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 12:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] audio recording
> 
> 
> >
> > Sorry I should have mentioned, the recording is for 3rd generation iPods
> > only.  First and 2nd generation iPods have a different audio chip which
> > lacks the necessary ADC hardware.
> >
> > You can record by using the headphone jack (or I would assume a standard
> > 3.5mm microphone) and the left channel.
> >
> > The line-in mentioned below is possible by plugging a stereo source into
> > your line out plug on the dock...
> >
> > cheers,
> > bern.
> >
> > On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 20:12, Bernard Leach wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have just uploaded a beta release which adds initial support for audio
> > > recording. Currently since there is still no mixer support its hardcoded
> > > to use the headphone microphone port however recompiling allows line-in
> > > recording.
> > >
> > > http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/uclinux-2.4.24-ipod1.tar.gz
> > >
> > > I have also uploaded a modifed version of podzilla that has a simple
> > > record/playback function built in. The recorded audio is 44.1kHz (mono)
> > > and saved to the file 'test.raw' in the current directory. Its pretty
> > > scratchy at the moment but that should be fixable. I'd be especially
> > > interested to anyone with a iPod microphone to see how it works.
> > >
> > > http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/podzilla
> > >
> > > The updated version of the audio driver exposed a problem in the mp3
> > > playback program. A fixed version is also available.
> > >
> > > http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/mp3example
> > >
> > > To install the updated podzilla and mp3example simply copy them onto
> > > your iPod's root partition into the sbin directory.
> > >
> > > Please note, these links will disappear when a final release is added to
> > > the sourceforge download page:
> > >
> > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73079
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > bern.
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] audio recording

[Zac W. <za...@co...>]

There is just a speaker. But, speakers are microphones in reverse. When 
you talk into a speaker it produces tiny currents that can be 
interpreted by a computer as sound. The computer can conversely send 
tiny currents to the speaker producing sound. The iPod's headphones 
have connectors for both so that the iPod can get all that data. This 
program just writes the data to file. So there is no serial 
communication to switch the iPod headphones into microphone mode. But I 
bet there is some serial communication between something like the iTalk 
or the Belkin voice recorder and the iPod in order to open up the 
special interface. Also, I doubt you can get stereo.

On May 25, 2004, at 10:02 AM, Mathieu wrote:

> I tested your work ! It is a very good work ! Good job !
> I tested with a 3.5 mm jack microphone in the connector for the 
> headphone..
> but when we play the sound there is some noise in the backround.. I 
> don't
> know if it is my microphone or your program...
> I have a question: is it possible to record in stereo mode with the 
> headset
> connector or it is only available on the line out.. (I think about 
> hardware
> capabilities).. ?
>
> I have no Ipod microphone to test that but I think that it wouldn't 
> function
> because there is a microphone AND a speaker in the device, so i think 
> that
> the ipod send a command by the serial port of the remote controle to 
> the
> microphone to switch "in microphone mode"... It's just supposition :) !
>
> cheers,
> Mathieu
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bernard Leach" <le...@bo...>
> To: <ipo...@li...>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 12:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] audio recording
>
>
>>
>> Sorry I should have mentioned, the recording is for 3rd generation 
>> iPods
>> only.  First and 2nd generation iPods have a different audio chip 
>> which
>> lacks the necessary ADC hardware.
>>
>> You can record by using the headphone jack (or I would assume a 
>> standard
>> 3.5mm microphone) and the left channel.
>>
>> The line-in mentioned below is possible by plugging a stereo source 
>> into
>> your line out plug on the dock...
>>
>> cheers,
>> bern.
>>
>> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 20:12, Bernard Leach wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have just uploaded a beta release which adds initial support for 
>>> audio
>>> recording. Currently since there is still no mixer support its 
>>> hardcoded
>>> to use the headphone microphone port however recompiling allows 
>>> line-in
>>> recording.
>>>
>>> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/uclinux-2.4.24-ipod1.tar.gz
>>>
>>> I have also uploaded a modifed version of podzilla that has a simple
>>> record/playback function built in. The recorded audio is 44.1kHz 
>>> (mono)
>>> and saved to the file 'test.raw' in the current directory. Its pretty
>>> scratchy at the moment but that should be fixable. I'd be especially
>>> interested to anyone with a iPod microphone to see how it works.
>>>
>>> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/podzilla
>>>
>>> The updated version of the audio driver exposed a problem in the mp3
>>> playback program. A fixed version is also available.
>>>
>>> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/mp3example
>>>
>>> To install the updated podzilla and mp3example simply copy them onto
>>> your iPod's root partition into the sbin directory.
>>>
>>> Please note, these links will disappear when a final release is 
>>> added to
>>> the sourceforge download page:
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73079
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> bern.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] audio recording

[Mathieu <zi...@xw...>]

I tested your work ! It is a very good work ! Good job !
I tested with a 3.5 mm jack microphone in the connector for the headphone..
but when we play the sound there is some noise in the backround.. I don't
know if it is my microphone or your program...
I have a question: is it possible to record in stereo mode with the headset
connector or it is only available on the line out.. (I think about hardware
capabilities).. ?

I have no Ipod microphone to test that but I think that it wouldn't function
because there is a microphone AND a speaker in the device, so i think that
the ipod send a command by the serial port of the remote controle to the
microphone to switch "in microphone mode"... It's just supposition :) !

cheers,
Mathieu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernard Leach" <le...@bo...>
To: <ipo...@li...>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] audio recording


>
> Sorry I should have mentioned, the recording is for 3rd generation iPods
> only.  First and 2nd generation iPods have a different audio chip which
> lacks the necessary ADC hardware.
>
> You can record by using the headphone jack (or I would assume a standard
> 3.5mm microphone) and the left channel.
>
> The line-in mentioned below is possible by plugging a stereo source into
> your line out plug on the dock...
>
> cheers,
> bern.
>
> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 20:12, Bernard Leach wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have just uploaded a beta release which adds initial support for audio
> > recording. Currently since there is still no mixer support its hardcoded
> > to use the headphone microphone port however recompiling allows line-in
> > recording.
> >
> > http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/uclinux-2.4.24-ipod1.tar.gz
> >
> > I have also uploaded a modifed version of podzilla that has a simple
> > record/playback function built in. The recorded audio is 44.1kHz (mono)
> > and saved to the file 'test.raw' in the current directory. Its pretty
> > scratchy at the moment but that should be fixable. I'd be especially
> > interested to anyone with a iPod microphone to see how it works.
> >
> > http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/podzilla
> >
> > The updated version of the audio driver exposed a problem in the mp3
> > playback program. A fixed version is also available.
> >
> > http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/mp3example
> >
> > To install the updated podzilla and mp3example simply copy them onto
> > your iPod's root partition into the sbin directory.
> >
> > Please note, these links will disappear when a final release is added to
> > the sourceforge download page:
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73079
> >
> > cheers,
> > bern.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] audio recording

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

Sorry I should have mentioned, the recording is for 3rd generation iPods
only.  First and 2nd generation iPods have a different audio chip which
lacks the necessary ADC hardware.

You can record by using the headphone jack (or I would assume a standard
3.5mm microphone) and the left channel.

The line-in mentioned below is possible by plugging a stereo source into
your line out plug on the dock...

cheers,
bern.

On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 20:12, Bernard Leach wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have just uploaded a beta release which adds initial support for audio
> recording. Currently since there is still no mixer support its hardcoded
> to use the headphone microphone port however recompiling allows line-in
> recording. 
> 
> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/uclinux-2.4.24-ipod1.tar.gz
> 
> I have also uploaded a modifed version of podzilla that has a simple
> record/playback function built in. The recorded audio is 44.1kHz (mono)
> and saved to the file 'test.raw' in the current directory. Its pretty
> scratchy at the moment but that should be fixable. I'd be especially
> interested to anyone with a iPod microphone to see how it works. 
> 
> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/podzilla
> 
> The updated version of the audio driver exposed a problem in the mp3
> playback program. A fixed version is also available. 
> 
> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/mp3example
> 
> To install the updated podzilla and mp3example simply copy them onto
> your iPod's root partition into the sbin directory. 
> 
> Please note, these links will disappear when a final release is added to
> the sourceforge download page: 
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73079
> 
> cheers,
> bern.
> 
> 
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[Ipodlinux-devel] audio recording

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

Hi all,

I have just uploaded a beta release which adds initial support for audio
recording. Currently since there is still no mixer support its hardcoded
to use the headphone microphone port however recompiling allows line-in
recording. 

http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/uclinux-2.4.24-ipod1.tar.gz

I have also uploaded a modifed version of podzilla that has a simple
record/playback function built in. The recorded audio is 44.1kHz (mono)
and saved to the file 'test.raw' in the current directory. Its pretty
scratchy at the moment but that should be fixable. I'd be especially
interested to anyone with a iPod microphone to see how it works. 

http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/podzilla

The updated version of the audio driver exposed a problem in the mp3
playback program. A fixed version is also available. 

http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/mp3example

To install the updated podzilla and mp3example simply copy them onto
your iPod's root partition into the sbin directory. 

Please note, these links will disappear when a final release is added to
the sourceforge download page: 

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73079

cheers,
bern.