ipodlinux-devel

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] Re: How to destroy our iPod :)

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

Hi David,

So in the case where your iPod is completely unbootable (e.g. the folder
icon).  You just boot windows/macosx and run the restore tool and then your
iPod is restored to the "factory condition"?

If so thats nice to know for sure :)

If anyone has a short HOWTO for "Howto restore your iPod" I'd be happy to put
it up in the docs section.

cheers,
bern.

David Piasecki <dpi...@ma...> said:

> I've run the restore tool before, and it works fine.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On Mar 10, 2004, at 8:32 PM, 
> ipo...@li... wrote:
> >
> > Message: 1
> > From: "Mathieu" <zi...@xw...>
> > To: <ipo...@li...>
> > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:03:58 +0100
> > Subject: [Ipodlinux-devel] How to destroy our iPod :)
> >
> > Hi everybody !
> > I am very interested by this project but I have one question...
> > Is it possible ton "destroy" our ipod when we install the firmware 
> > based on
> > linux ?
> > If yes, how :) ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Mathieu
> 
> 
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Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] HFS+ and Kernel 2.4.24

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

In order to see a HFS+ partition you need HFS+ filesystem support and Mac
partition support.  For the parition support select the "Advanced partition"
option and then specify MAC (and MSDOS if needed).

In .config:

CONFIG_HFSPLUS_FS=y
CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION=y

The kernel problems you had are quite strange - it should compile "out of the
box".

After you applied the patches etc you should be able to just copy the default
config and then build something that works;

cp arch/armnommu/def-configs/ipod .config
make oldconfig
make dep
make
make modules

Did you miss the "make dep" line?

Jean-Charles Tournier <jea...@rd...> said:

> hi,
> 
> I try to install linux on my mac ipod, which means that I have HFS+ 
> partition. So I compiled the 2.4.24 kernel   . When I installed it, i 
> hoped that it could natively see my HFS+ root partition, but it 
> doesn't. Is there a special flag to set when compiling the kernel?
> 
> I report here the problems I get when I compiled the 2.4.24 kernel. I 
> used the source kernel from 
> (http://www.ovh-new.lkams.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/), the 
> uClinux-2.4.24-uc0.diff.gz and the cvs version of the ipodlinux patch.  
> First I needed to create a file at include/linux/version.h which 
> contains:
> #define UTS_RELEASE "2.4.24-uc0"
> #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE KERNEL_VERSION(2,2,24)
> #define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a) << 16) + ((b) << 8) + (c))
> 
> Then, I need to comment the line 245 of file char/serial.c and line 4 
> of include/asm/spinlock.h
> 
> thanks,
> jc.
> 
> 
> 
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[Ipodlinux-devel] HFS+ and Kernel 2.4.24

[Jean-Charles T. <jea...@rd...>]

hi,

I try to install linux on my mac ipod, which means that I have HFS+ 
partition. So I compiled the 2.4.24 kernel   . When I installed it, i 
hoped that it could natively see my HFS+ root partition, but it 
doesn't. Is there a special flag to set when compiling the kernel?

I report here the problems I get when I compiled the 2.4.24 kernel. I 
used the source kernel from 
(http://www.ovh-new.lkams.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/), the 
uClinux-2.4.24-uc0.diff.gz and the cvs version of the ipodlinux patch.  
First I needed to create a file at include/linux/version.h which 
contains:
#define UTS_RELEASE "2.4.24-uc0"
#define LINUX_VERSION_CODE KERNEL_VERSION(2,2,24)
#define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a) << 16) + ((b) << 8) + (c))

Then, I need to comment the line 245 of file char/serial.c and line 4 
of include/asm/spinlock.h

thanks,
jc.

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] How to destroy our iPod :)

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

Hi Mathieu,

Sure the scroll whell on the 3g works fine.  At the moment only usb and audio
are not working on the 3g.  I'm really hoping to get the audio going soon but
sofar no luck.  I haven't even looked at usb.

No problems with the English ;)  Actually sometimes on the irc channel there
are some other French native speakers so you might like to try there sometime.

cheers,
bern.

Mathieu <zi...@xw...> said:

> Thank you very much for your "instant" answer !
> I have antoher question, is the "scroll wheel" on the 3G iPod avaiable on
> the current firmware ?
> 
> Best regards,
> Mathieu
> PS: sorry for my bad english.. I'm french :)
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bernard Leach" <le...@bo...>
> To: "Mathieu" <zi...@xw...>; <ipo...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] How to destroy our iPod :)
> 
> 
> >
> > To the best of my knowledge it is not possible to completely destroy your
> iPod
> > by installing or running the Linux firmware.  The worst you can do is end
> up
> > with an iPod that doesn't boot a OS.  In this case the forced disk mode is
> > always available so you can restore your backups.
> >
> > In theory you should also just be able to run the Apple restore tool to
> reset
> > your iPod but since I've never run it I can't confirm that.
> >
> > To make things easy to restore or revert, make sure you take backups of
> your
> > firmware and boot partition and store them in a safe place.
> >
> > The easy way to mess up the install is to get the 'dd' commands wrong,
> e.g. dd
> > the firmware to /dev/sda3 instead of sda2 and you will nuke your music
> partition.
> >
> > Just follow the documentation, double check the commands and make sure
> they
> > are correct for your environment (be especially carefull if you have other
> > SCSI devices!).  If there isn't enough info in the docs, just ask here
> >
> > cheers,
> > bern.
> >
> > Mathieu <zi...@xw...> said:
> >
> > > Hi everybody !
> > > I am very interested by this project but I have one question...
> > > Is it possible ton "destroy" our ipod when we install the firmware based
> on
> > > linux ?
> > > If yes, how :) ?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Mathieu
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[Ipodlinux-devel] Re: Linux on the mini

[David P. <dpi...@ma...>]

I googled around online and found some differences in hardware for the 
mini, notably the new firewire chip and the ability to act as both a 
USB 2.0 client and host. Now I imagine plugging in a USB keyboard is 
actually a reality, not to mention the USB musical keyboard for 
portable music, or anything else for that matter. Just hoping in vain 
that the PP chips are a good deal similar, has anyone tried looking at 
the mini or poked around the firmware at all? It seems to me that it 
would be worth having linux on the mini more than the original.

Dave

[Ipodlinux-devel] Re: How to destroy our iPod :)

[David P. <dpi...@ma...>]

I've run the restore tool before, and it works fine.

Dave


On Mar 10, 2004, at 8:32 PM, 
ipo...@li... wrote:
>
> Message: 1
> From: "Mathieu" <zi...@xw...>
> To: <ipo...@li...>
> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:03:58 +0100
> Subject: [Ipodlinux-devel] How to destroy our iPod :)
>
> Hi everybody !
> I am very interested by this project but I have one question...
> Is it possible ton "destroy" our ipod when we install the firmware 
> based on
> linux ?
> If yes, how :) ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mathieu

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] How to destroy our iPod :)

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

To the best of my knowledge it is not possible to completely destroy your iPod
by installing or running the Linux firmware.  The worst you can do is end up
with an iPod that doesn't boot a OS.  In this case the forced disk mode is
always available so you can restore your backups.

In theory you should also just be able to run the Apple restore tool to reset
your iPod but since I've never run it I can't confirm that.

To make things easy to restore or revert, make sure you take backups of your
firmware and boot partition and store them in a safe place.

The easy way to mess up the install is to get the 'dd' commands wrong, e.g. dd
the firmware to /dev/sda3 instead of sda2 and you will nuke your music partition.

Just follow the documentation, double check the commands and make sure they
are correct for your environment (be especially carefull if you have other
SCSI devices!).  If there isn't enough info in the docs, just ask here

cheers,
bern.

Mathieu <zi...@xw...> said:

> Hi everybody !
> I am very interested by this project but I have one question...
> Is it possible ton "destroy" our ipod when we install the firmware based on
> linux ?
> If yes, how :) ?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Mathieu
> 
> 
> 
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[Ipodlinux-devel] How to destroy our iPod :)

[Mathieu <zi...@xw...>]

Hi everybody !
I am very interested by this project but I have one question...
Is it possible ton "destroy" our ipod when we install the firmware based on
linux ?
If yes, how :) ?

Thanks in advance

Best Regards,

Mathieu

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] Bootloader issues

[Benjamin H. <be...@ke...>]

On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 10:55, Bernard Leach wrote:
> Was this using the binary bootloader from sourceforge or a CVS-built
> version?  On x86 linux?

Binary built from sourceforge for the bootloader code proper and CVS
"installer" code running on ppc. It was about 2 monthes ago.
(g2 HFS+ iPod afaik)

Ben.

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] Bootloader issues

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

Was this using the binary bootloader from sourceforge or a CVS-built
version?  On x86 linux?


On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 00:36, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 23:55, Bernard Leach wrote:
> > Have you tried audio on under linux?  That also uses the 2nd processor.
> > 
> > cheers,
> > bern.
> > 
> > Gilles Boccon-Gibod <bo...@bo...> said:
> > 
> > > Yes, it does it all the time. I suspect the second processor to be in a
> > > weird state, because all the UI stuff works. When I try to play something,
> > > it will sometimes crash, or get stuck, or sometimes just sit there not
> > > playing (the timecode does not move), but the UI sometime stays functional,
> > > and I can go back to browsing, or change the volume, etc...
> > > Info:
> 
> I had that exact problem when I tried the bootloader on mine. It
> rendered the second processor non functional apparently for apple
> firmware.
> 
> Ben.
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] Bootloader issues

[Benjamin H. <be...@ke...>]

On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 23:55, Bernard Leach wrote:
> Have you tried audio on under linux?  That also uses the 2nd processor.
> 
> cheers,
> bern.
> 
> Gilles Boccon-Gibod <bo...@bo...> said:
> 
> > Yes, it does it all the time. I suspect the second processor to be in a
> > weird state, because all the UI stuff works. When I try to play something,
> > it will sometimes crash, or get stuck, or sometimes just sit there not
> > playing (the timecode does not move), but the UI sometime stays functional,
> > and I can go back to browsing, or change the volume, etc...
> > Info:

I had that exact problem when I tried the bootloader on mine. It
rendered the second processor non functional apparently for apple
firmware.

Ben.

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] userland problems with latest CVS version

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

To update the root filesystem on the iPod you need UMSDOS support on
your host, or you can create a new root filesystem (I have used ext3).

There is a short HOWTO in the documentation section on the website.

cheers,
bern.

On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 04:11, Yun Zhou wrote:
> Thanks for all the help in resolving my kernel compilation procedure, however, 
> I have met up with some more trouble in trying to get iPodLInux to install in 
> its entirety onto my 3G iPod. 
> 
> The kernel boots up fine, and displays its boot messages, however, when it 
> finishes booting, I cannot use the iPodeth1394 module with it. This is 
> because it cannot find the modules for the newer kernel version (2.4.24), as 
> it still is assuming the older one (2.4.20).
> 
> How would I go about resolving this issue? I tried copying the modules from 
> the new kernel into the linux/lib/2.4.24-uc0/ directory, but it still does 
> has the same problem. 
> 
> I think that I read somewhere about having to use UMSDOS to copy stuff into 
> the root for the kernel to boot off of it, however, it is not avaliable in 
> the 2.6 series kernels. If this is the problem, could anyone direct me to the 
> UMSDOS module for 2.6?
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
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Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] Bootloader issues

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

Have you tried audio on under linux?  That also uses the 2nd processor.

cheers,
bern.

Gilles Boccon-Gibod <bo...@bo...> said:

> Yes, it does it all the time. I suspect the second processor to be in a
> weird state, because all the UI stuff works. When I try to play something,
> it will sometimes crash, or get stuck, or sometimes just sit there not
> playing (the timecode does not move), but the UI sometime stays functional,
> and I can go back to browsing, or change the volume, etc...
> Info:
> 
> ipod, 10gig, firmware 1.3, with Windows file system.
> 
> -- Gilles Boccon-Gibod
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bernard Leach" <le...@bo...>
> To: <ipo...@li...>
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] Bootloader issues
> 
> 
> >
> > Hi Gilles,
> >
> > Does this happen everytime you boot the iPod?  I have a 10gig 2nd gen
> > iPod and I haven't seen it not work but could imagine there is perhaps a
> > race condition on the bootloader which means that the 2nd cpu is not
> > configured properly.
> >
> > Perhaps you could try rebooting a couple of times see if you always see
> > the same result?
> >
> > cheers,
> > bern.
> >
> > On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 20:16, Gilles Boccon-Gibod wrote:
> > > I've downloaded and built the latest bootloader, and I'm having troubles
> > > with it:
> > > The bootloader works, abd lets me boot into the Apple software, or the
> > > Linux kernel. The linux kernel works fine. The apple software 'seems' to
> > > wokr, I can navigate the song database, etc... But when I play a song,
> > > it reboots the device.
> > >
> > > If I don't have the bootloader, and I only use the apple software,
> > > everything plays fine.
> > >
> > > Any clue what might be wrong. Has anyone had the same issues (this is a
> > > 10gig gen 2 ipod)
> > >
> > > -- Gilles Boccon-Gibod
> > >
> > >
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[Ipodlinux-devel] userland problems with latest CVS version

[Yun Z. <sr...@mo...>]

Thanks for all the help in resolving my kernel compilation procedure, however, 
I have met up with some more trouble in trying to get iPodLInux to install in 
its entirety onto my 3G iPod. 

The kernel boots up fine, and displays its boot messages, however, when it 
finishes booting, I cannot use the iPodeth1394 module with it. This is 
because it cannot find the modules for the newer kernel version (2.4.24), as 
it still is assuming the older one (2.4.20).

How would I go about resolving this issue? I tried copying the modules from 
the new kernel into the linux/lib/2.4.24-uc0/ directory, but it still does 
has the same problem. 

I think that I read somewhere about having to use UMSDOS to copy stuff into 
the root for the kernel to boot off of it, however, it is not avaliable in 
the 2.6 series kernels. If this is the problem, could anyone direct me to the 
UMSDOS module for 2.6?

Thank you very much.

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] Bootloader issues

[Gilles Boccon-G. <bo...@bo...>]

Yes, it does it all the time. I suspect the second processor to be in a
weird state, because all the UI stuff works. When I try to play something,
it will sometimes crash, or get stuck, or sometimes just sit there not
playing (the timecode does not move), but the UI sometime stays functional,
and I can go back to browsing, or change the volume, etc...
Info:

ipod, 10gig, firmware 1.3, with Windows file system.

-- Gilles Boccon-Gibod

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernard Leach" <le...@bo...>
To: <ipo...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] Bootloader issues


>
> Hi Gilles,
>
> Does this happen everytime you boot the iPod?  I have a 10gig 2nd gen
> iPod and I haven't seen it not work but could imagine there is perhaps a
> race condition on the bootloader which means that the 2nd cpu is not
> configured properly.
>
> Perhaps you could try rebooting a couple of times see if you always see
> the same result?
>
> cheers,
> bern.
>
> On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 20:16, Gilles Boccon-Gibod wrote:
> > I've downloaded and built the latest bootloader, and I'm having troubles
> > with it:
> > The bootloader works, abd lets me boot into the Apple software, or the
> > Linux kernel. The linux kernel works fine. The apple software 'seems' to
> > wokr, I can navigate the song database, etc... But when I play a song,
> > it reboots the device.
> >
> > If I don't have the bootloader, and I only use the apple software,
> > everything plays fine.
> >
> > Any clue what might be wrong. Has anyone had the same issues (this is a
> > 10gig gen 2 ipod)
> >
> > -- Gilles Boccon-Gibod
> >
> >
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Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] IPOD Gaming

[Ronja W. <ro...@wi...>]

Hi,
for snake just let me add an idea: the scroll wheel would make a nice 
input for multidirectional snake moves... :)
greets

Ronja

Am 04.03.2004 um 21:01 schrieb Bernard Leach:

> mmmm multiplayer snake ;)

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] Bootloader issues

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

Hi Gilles,

Does this happen everytime you boot the iPod?  I have a 10gig 2nd gen
iPod and I haven't seen it not work but could imagine there is perhaps a
race condition on the bootloader which means that the 2nd cpu is not
configured properly.

Perhaps you could try rebooting a couple of times see if you always see
the same result?

cheers,
bern.

On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 20:16, Gilles Boccon-Gibod wrote:
> I've downloaded and built the latest bootloader, and I'm having troubles 
> with it:
> The bootloader works, abd lets me boot into the Apple software, or the 
> Linux kernel. The linux kernel works fine. The apple software 'seems' to 
> wokr, I can navigate the song database, etc... But when I play a song, 
> it reboots the device.
> 
> If I don't have the bootloader, and I only use the apple software, 
> everything plays fine.
> 
> Any clue what might be wrong. Has anyone had the same issues (this is a 
> 10gig gen 2 ipod)
> 
> -- Gilles Boccon-Gibod
> 
> 
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Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] IPOD Gaming

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

Hi Dave,

Sure, iPod to iPod TCP/IP should work fine.  I haven't tried it as yet
but as long as the IP addresses on the two iPods are different there
should be no problems.  mmmm multiplayer snake ;)

cheers,
bern.

On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 20:08, David Piasecki wrote:
> Is it possible to write network games for the IPOD using TCP/IP? Am I correct in assuming that two IPOD units are capable of communicating with each other using ethernet over firewire?
> 
> Dave
> 
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> 

[Ipodlinux-devel] Bootloader issues

[Gilles Boccon-G. <bo...@bo...>]

I've downloaded and built the latest bootloader, and I'm having troubles 
with it:
The bootloader works, abd lets me boot into the Apple software, or the 
Linux kernel. The linux kernel works fine. The apple software 'seems' to 
wokr, I can navigate the song database, etc... But when I play a song, 
it reboots the device.

If I don't have the bootloader, and I only use the apple software, 
everything plays fine.

Any clue what might be wrong. Has anyone had the same issues (this is a 
10gig gen 2 ipod)

-- Gilles Boccon-Gibod

[Ipodlinux-devel] IPOD Gaming

[David P. <dpi...@ma...>]

Is it possible to write network games for the IPOD using TCP/IP? Am I correct in assuming that two IPOD units are capable of communicating with each other using ethernet over firewire?

Dave

[Ipodlinux-devel] IPOD Gaming

[David P. <dpi...@ma...>]

Is it possible to write network games for the IPOD using TCP/IP? Am I correct in assuming that two IPOD units are capable of communicating with each other using ethernet over firewire?

Dave

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] Which is the right image?

[PALFFY D. <dpa...@ra...>]

Hi!

> However, after doing make dep, make, and make modules, I can't find the image
> that the build instructions (http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/build.shtml)
> state. There is a "linux" file in the root directory of the kernel build, and
> 'file' states
>
> linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, no machine, version 1, statically linked,
> stripped

http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/build.shtml, "Installing the Kernel",
step 1 is still needed. This converts the ELF image 'linux' to a flat
kernel binary 'linux.bin'. After this use the ipodloader from cvs (cvs co
tools/ipodloader;  docs is in the README file) to create a bootable
firmware image.

--
Daniel
			...and Linux for all.

[Ipodlinux-devel] Which is the right image?

[Yun Z. <sr...@mo...>]

After downloading the LInux-2.4.24 kernel, applying the uCLinux patch for it, 
and then applying the iPodLinux CVS, I compile with an ARM-Linux toolchain, 
and it does so successfully.

However, after doing make dep, make, and make modules, I can't find the image 
that the build instructions (http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/build.shtml) 
state. There is a "linux" file in the root directory of the kernel build, and 
'file' states

linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, no machine, version 1, statically linked, 
stripped

however, when I combine this with the loader and the Apple firmware, it will 
not boot (not a kernel panic, but rather, it just resets itself)

Is there anything I'm doing wrong? I'm using a 3rd gen iPod with the latest 
CVS.

Thanks in advance!

[Ipodlinux-devel] firewire with 2.6 on the host

[PALFFY D. <dp...@ra...>]

Hi!

For those using a 2.6 kernel on their computer, I've checked in a forward
port of the 2.4.20 firewire driver in CVS.

This driver works fine with a recent CVS ipodlinux kernel and linux
2.6.3-mm? on the host, and should also work with 2.6.4-rc1 and newer (not
tested) as is.

To build it, just cvs co tools/ipodeth1394/2.6, run make there and load
the resulting ipodeth1394.ko, (and be sure you don't have eth1394 loaded,
as they may clash with each other...). A bit more documentation is in
README.

--
Daniel
			...and Linux for all.

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] New list member

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

Hi Terje,

the best way to get involved is to find something that interests you and
just do it ;)  If your interested in GUI development the podzilla GUI is
now in CVS so that would be a good place to get started.  A neat
addition would be a browser for the iTunes db on the iPod.

As for leaving your iPod unusable its extremely unlikely that you could
completely break it (to do that you have to wipe the flash rom and there
are _no_ flash rom drivers in the kernel).  If you get something wrong
the worst you have to do is restore your backup or use the apple reset
program to restore it to its original state.

cheers,
bern.

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 17:29, Terje Wiesener wrote:
> Hello all!
> 
> As a new member on the list, I just wanted to introduce myself.
> 
> My name is Terje Wiesener, I'm studying at the Norwegian University of 
> Technology and Science in Trondheim.
> 
> I just bought an Ipod, and the thought of getting it to run linux is 
> really thrilling!
> 
> I have some prior experience with linux, that is, I've been running Debian 
> on some of my machines the last few years, and I've installed and 
> maintained many different flavours of linux on friends' computers. I also 
> have some programming experience in C/C++, Java, PHP, Python etc, but I 
> have never done any real programming under linux, nor have I ever done 
> anything more advanced with the kernel than to configure and build a plain 
> 2.4 or 2.6 kernel.
> 
> What would be the best way for me to get involved in this project?
> 
> Also, is the latest kernel and bootloader compatible with the newest 
> "regular" ipods (ie, the 15 GB version with the docking connector)? Is 
> there any chance of rendering my ipod unusable by installing linux on it?
> 
> What is the status of userland apps? Is there a running GUI for instance?
> 
> Best regards,
> Terje Wiesener
> 
> 
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