[Introspector-swigsharp] Re: AW: SWIG Csharp module

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--- Peter Gloor <p_...@ho...> wrote:
> Mike,
> 
> > If you put anything under BSD,
> > then you are giving it away. Microsoft can take it and make it
> > incompatible. The GPL protects the code from that.
> >
> > Any BSD code can be converted to GPL.
> > Niel has submitted it to SWIG.org and it was ignored,
> > I offered to host the software.
> 
> Thanks for hosting it. See it much the same way.
> 
> I also tried to contact SWIG.org and got no answer.
> That's the reason why I started searching the Internet for
> others working on the subject.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Michael DuPont" <mdu...@ya...>
> To: "Schörk,_Andreas" <and...@in...>; "Neil Cawse"
> <ne...@ge...>; "'Peter Gloor'" <p_...@ho...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: AW: SWIG Csharp module
> 
> 
> > If you put anything under BSD,
> > then you are giving it away. Microsoft can take it and make it
> > incompatible. The GPL protects the code from that.
> >
> > Any BSD code can be converted to GPL.
> > Niel has submitted it to SWIG.org and it was ignored,
> > I offered to host the software.
> >
> > I am not a laywer, so I don't know for sure it that is a "BSD"
> license,
> > but it looks like one. You dont need to ask for permission to take
> it
> > and include it in a commerecial product, you dont need to ask to
> > convert it into GPL.
> >
> > But if you have objections, I am listening.
> >
> > mike
> >
> > --- "Schörk,_Andreas" <and...@in...> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I am a bit confused, about what source-code are you talking at
> the
> > > moment.
> > > Am I anyhow involved in this, if yes,
> > > I suppose clr.cxx was the file I created from java.cxx. I sent it
> > > some
> > > earlier to anybody I do not remember perhaps to you Neil ?
> > > java.cxx was created originally (almost) by William Fulton. So
> you
> > > should
> > > ask him about the GPL as well.
> > > Btw. I think the swig-sources are under a bsd-license.
> > > I intended to make the whole thing ripe enough so it can be
> included
> > > into
> > > Swig. And I think David Beazley would not have anything against
> it.
> > > So
> > > Why not put it into SWIG.ORG ??
> > >
> > >
> > > The benefits of this CLR-SWIG are.
> > > The parser which gets better all the time.
> > > The examples of mappings which you can get from the java-version.
> > > Perhaps the greater community already working with swig and
> intending
> > > to
> > > use their interfaces by CLR as well.
> > >
> > > I will able to do some additional work during the next month.
> > > I would like to know, where I can find the actual state of this
> > > module,
> > > perhaps anybody could send it to me so I know about we are
> talking.
> > >
> > > If I am completely wrong, and your solution has nothing in common
> > > with what
> > > I did last year, excuse me please.
> > >
> > > Andreas
> > >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: James Michael DuPont [mailto:mdu...@ya...]
> > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Januar 2003 09:27
> > > An: Neil Cawse; 'Peter Gloor'; and...@in...
> > > Cc: 'James Michael DuPont'
> > > Betreff: RE: SWIG Csharp module
> > >
> > > Guys,
> > > I will host this project on introspector.sf.net untill savannah
> comes
> > > through. Please sign up at sf.net, get a user id, and I will add
> you
> > > to
> > > the project. We will make a new mailling list as well.
> > >
> > > Do you have any problem putting all the changes under GPL?
> > >
> > > mike
> > > --- Neil Cawse <ne...@ge...> wrote:
> > > > Mike DuPont has submitted a request to
> http://savannah.nongnu.org/
> > > to
> > > > host the project. We will put the project under CVS so we can
> all
> > > > make
> > > > changes and improve it. There have been a couple of changes
> various
> > > > people have made and with a small amount of work we could
> correct
> > > > some
> > > > of the remaining issues. I never got as far as doing the call
> > > backs,
> > > > but
> > > > creating a delegate and passing that shouldn't be much problem.
> > > > Swig doesn't have a problem supporting callbacks, just that I
> > > didn't
> > > > do
> > > > the conversion.
> > > > I think modifying the java version is the right way to go
> because
> > > as
> > > > the
> > > > swig guys improve their product, it would make it much easier
> to
> > > port
> > > > their changes if we wanted to. I even left the same java names
> for
> > > > the
> > > > variables for this reason.
> > > > I spent some time looking at the easiest way of using a c++
> library
> > > > from
> > > > c# and as of now, there is nothing really as good as swig.
> > > > The include files are optional - you can include your whole
> header
> > > > file
> > > > but then you don't have control of what swig does.
> > > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Peter Gloor [mailto:p_...@ho...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:59 PM
> > > > To: and...@in...; nei...@ho...
> > > > Subject: SWIG Csharp module
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I've found your email address in one ore more mail list
> archives
> > > > after
> > > > searching the Internet for SWIG and C#.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I'm curious whether your still working on a SWIG .NET
> > > > (csharp/clr)
> > > > module and how you proceed.
> > > >
> > > > Since I'm in progress of implementing a wrapper class to
> provide
> > > > access
> > > > to a
> > > > hughe API from C# and other .NET languages I'm highly
> interested in
> > > a
> > > > SWIG
> > > > module that will support this process.
> > > >
> > > > I already tried Neil's work I found in
> SwicCLRNeilCawse10dec02.zip
> > > > and
> > > > Tiger's (Feng Songyan) csharp.cxx.
> > > >
> > > > I was impressed by the results I've got using Neils
> implementation.
> > > > However
> > > > it obviousely still needs some work to be done and one of the
> > > biggest
> > > > obstacle to me is the lack of support for callbacks (maybe I'm
> > > doing
> > > > something wrong?).
> > > >
> > > > What do you thing in general:
> > > > Is SWIG the right tool to do this?
> > > > What about the interface files? Is this really the right
> approach?
> > > I
> > > > could
> > > > think about a preprocessor that at least prepares them based on
> > > some
> > > > options.
> > > > What about the concept is it o.k.? (I think, yes).
> > > > Is it the right approach to build the clr.cxx from java.cxx?
> > > > Is it worth spending the time to improve clr.cxx? Or better
> take it
> > > > as
> > > > is
> > > > and use the time to implement my callbacks manually?
> > > >
> > > > If it will not take too much of my time I'll be willing to
> > > > contribute.
> > > > Are
> > > > you organized somehow? I didn't yet contact David Beazley so
> far.
> > > >
> > > > I hope to hear from you. Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > > Peter
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> > >
> > >
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