Re: [Indic-computing-users] Fw: indic languages important........

[Hema A M. <he...@la...>]

I am not sure if this answers anything - I do think that this encoding
issue and font based applications will continue to remain for
quite a while.  Unfortunately, until we have applications
running in local languages nobody is going to use the=20
interfaces that we build.   I think we should work towards
solutions in which both encoding and font - are a kind of
localisation.  This is possible in linux and I do think
we should explore this - define standards for interfaces
that applications can use.  An example:

a) Cursor position APIs in X  - could be either encoding
based or glyph based=20
b) Input methods - any encoding based

Both a) and b) could use parse rule files for encoding/
font ...
We could define standards for these.

Although I do agree that it will be good if we could
agree on a particular encoding - in practice this is=20
going to be pretty difficult to enforce.

-hema

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Tapan S. Parikh wrote:

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> I kind of missed some of the exact points, but one irony is that kinds
> of points and applications he is bringing is the exact reason that
> standards-compliance is important.
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> SQL Interpreters, DBs, Compilers.  Chance is sooner or later they will
> support Unicode.  But will they support some font-based or otherwise
> obscure encoding used by some subset of the Indian population?=20
> Unlikely. =20
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> We can get away with writing word processors, email clients, etc. for a
> while but are we really going to start writing our own enterprise DB
> systems and commercial level compilers?
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> but at some point we have to come up with either an engineering or
> policy approach for handling the standardisation and encoding issue if
> people are not happy with Unicode.
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> -- Tapan
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> SQL DBs, Compilers, =20
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> On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:30:04 +0530
> Guntupalli Karunakar <kar...@fr...> wrote:
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> > Whats the opinion of group in this regard ?
> > I will be meeting him when I next go to pune as he is also working on
> > Marathi localisation. From the preliminary info that I got, he is
> > using a Shusha kind of font. Though his implementation may not be
> > standards complaint, but it is still an issue to ponder at.
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> > Regards,
> > Karunakar
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> > Begin forwarded message:
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> > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:36:31 +0530
> > From: "Somesh Bartakkay" <s4s...@re...>
> > To: <kar...@sh...>
> > Subject: indic languages important........
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> > (ur ref. & this email address is given by shiriish bhagawat)
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> > respected sir,
> >        i come to know that there was a national level conferance at
> > bangalore on the topic - Indic computing...
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> > i wanna share the following points:
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> > 1.weather the implimentation of indic-languages is considered only
> > upto document generation / data presentation or beyond that (e.g.
> > writting programming in indic languages, writting sql statements in
> > indic languages, shell/dos-commands in indic languages etc ) ? becuas=
e
> > most of the problem we are facing now in days regarding this topic ar=
e
> > only due to concideration of indic languages=20
> > only for document genereation..till yet nobody has thought beyond thi=
s
> > except me...i worked over it in proper way.
> > i have developed small library for writting C programming language in
> > devnagari... its an 100 % successful expmt.The entire s/w for windows
> > is ready & for linux is on way to complete.=20
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> > 2.weather the concepts of unicode is accepted by all languages  ?=20
> > 3.here am fwding u a small html page. please read that u will come to
> > know that other cuntries r also fighting with ANSI etc for changing
> > the worldwide std of prog languages and base for fighting is LANGUAGE
> > and SCRIPT, in this page NNI has refused the std of ANSI ..only as
> > their language script is not having the symbols {}, [], # ... so ansi
> > has given options for above symbols...
> > means if u writting c prog is following way , gcc compiles it..
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> > main()
> > <%
> > printf("haha !!");
> > %>
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> > please ref below url for more details on the topic above....
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> >   http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/na1-NNI.html
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> > 4. am attaching a jpg file with this mail, wich shows a small c like
> > prorgam=20
> > in devnagari script and gcc compiles it with my library.the parallel
> > prog in c is written below
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> > main()
> > {
> >  int a,b;
> > scanf("%d",&a);
> > b=3Da*a;
> > printf("%d",b);
> > }
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> > ...... we must have to reach upto that level with n e indic script....
> > i know how to do this...........................for more information
> > contact me,
> > and plz dont furget to tell me if there is n e more conference on thi=
s
> > topic, wanna present few more imp topic s on this subject
> >  if possible plz forword this mail to the persons working in this
> > field..=20
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> > =20
> > =A7 s.o.m.e.s.h =A7
> > =20
> > Somesh Bartakkay
> > Ph: 02115-23100
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