indic-computing-devel

[Indic-computing-devel] Request for Participation

[Tapan S. P. <ta...@ya...>]

Hi,

You all may have seen the post by Ashish on the -devel and -announce 
lists today about the upcoming Indic-Computing workshop in Bangalore.

In case for whatever reason you wont be able to join us, we would still 
like your participation in the workshop.  If you would be kind enough to 
write a small white paper for the conference proceedings, relevant to 
technical or other issues in indic-computing, we would be very happy to 
include it in the proceedings we distribute at the workshop and afterwords.

For the white paper feel free to choose any topic that you feel is 
relavant to local language computing in India.  Of course, the most 
detailed, informative and widely applicable white papers will be found 
most useful by the community. Hint... ;)

If you intend to do this, please send me a proposed title for your white 
paper as soon as you can, so I can include it in the TOC.  You can then 
send the white papers directly to me and I will edit and collate them 
into the final collection.

If you want to discuss possible topics for white papers, float em to me 
or Koshy.

Talk to u soon,
Tapan

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Tapan S. Parikh
तपन एस परिख
ta...@ya...
http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/tapan/

[Aside:  I sent this using mozilla because I wanted to try this new 
UTF-8 .sig.  Of the mail clients on my system (balsa, sylpheed, and 
mozilla), only mozilla seemed to support UTF-8 message encoding. 
Additionally it somehow is just magically working that I did a simple 
copy and paste from a Yudit window and now I can magically see my name 
in Devanagri in the .sig below.  Cool!

I had expected to see junk b/c I hadnt really configured any fonts. 
This is out of the box.  Not sure why it works.  Also I couldnt seem to 
spell my name right.  It looks like Parkhi.  Prb, like someone said, the 
GSUB table aint working right in Mo.  Anyway, Im happy.;)  Mo rocks.]

Re: [Indic-computing-devel] Request for Participation

[Arun S. <ar...@sh...>]

On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 04:27:30PM +0530, Tapan S. Parikh wrote:
> [Aside:  I sent this using mozilla because I wanted to try this new 
> UTF-8 .sig.  Of the mail clients on my system (balsa, sylpheed, and 
> mozilla), only mozilla seemed to support UTF-8 message encoding. 
> Additionally it somehow is just magically working that I did a simple 
> copy and paste from a Yudit window and now I can magically see my name 
> in Devanagri in the .sig below.  Cool!

That's right - mozilla does a splendid job of rendering text (Especially
in 1.1). They fixed the font baseline problem which caused the
"underline" to pierce through the heart of the font.

But the following bugs remain:

- The title of the window not rendered correctly
- Keyboard input in UTF-8 doesn't work in the composer

	-Arun

Re: [Indic-computing-devel] Request for Participation

[Sayamindu D. <unm...@So...>]

On Mon, 2002-09-02 at 22:30, Arun Sharma wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 04:27:30PM +0530, Tapan S. Parikh wrote:
> > [Aside:  I sent this using mozilla because I wanted to try this new=20
> > UTF-8 .sig.  Of the mail clients on my system (balsa, sylpheed, and=20
> > mozilla), only mozilla seemed to support UTF-8 message encoding.=20
> > Additionally it somehow is just magically working that I did a simple=20
> > copy and paste from a Yudit window and now I can magically see my name=20
> > in Devanagri in the .sig below.  Cool!
>=20
> That's right - mozilla does a splendid job of rendering text (Especially
> in 1.1). They fixed the font baseline problem which caused the
> "underline" to pierce through the heart of the font.
>=20
> But the following bugs remain:
>=20
> - The title of the window not rendered correctly
> - Keyboard input in UTF-8 doesn't work in the composer
>=20
> 	-Arun
>=20
>=20

hia,
for some strange reasons, i'm not being enable to make mozilla render
unicode text
i have 1.1  (for linux) installed - and i wrote some text (bangla) in
yudit
i converted that into html, but mozilla could not render it :(
ms ie could render the thing quite nicely, even the yuktakshars and
stuffs were there=20
are u guys enabling some special option??
-sdg-


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Re: [Indic-computing-devel] Request for Participation

[Arun S. <ar...@sh...>]

On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 11:27:11PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
> i converted that into html, but mozilla could not render it :(
> ms ie could render the thing quite nicely, even the yuktakshars and
> stuffs were there 
> are u guys enabling some special option??

No, I'm not doing anything special. 

a) Were you able to see your text (HTML version) correctly in yudit ?
b) Are you able to see other web pages correctly ? I can see this page
correctly in mozilla/Linux with raghu.ttf.

http://www.sharma-home.net/~adsharma/home.hi_IN.utf8.html

This was with XFree86 4.2.0 with the freetype2 patch.

	-Arun

Re: [Indic-computing-devel] Request for Participation

[Sayamindu D. <unm...@So...>]

yes, I could see the texts correctly in Yudit
and in Mozilla i could see ur page in Hindi
and even Konqueror rendered the Bangla page that I made
however mozilla could not :(
-sdg-

On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 00:44, Arun Sharma wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 11:27:11PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
> > i converted that into html, but mozilla could not render it :(
> > ms ie could render the thing quite nicely, even the yuktakshars and
> > stuffs were there=20
> > are u guys enabling some special option??
>=20
> No, I'm not doing anything special.=20
>=20
> a) Were you able to see your text (HTML version) correctly in yudit ?
> b) Are you able to see other web pages correctly ? I can see this page
> correctly in mozilla/Linux with raghu.ttf.
>=20
> http://www.sharma-home.net/~adsharma/home.hi_IN.utf8.html
>=20
> This was with XFree86 4.2.0 with the freetype2 patch.
>=20
> 	-Arun
>=20
>=20
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Re: [Indic-computing-devel] Request for Participation

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@fr...>]

On 02 Sep 2002 23:27:11 +0530
Sayamindu Dasgupta <unm...@So...> wrote:

> On Mon, 2002-09-02 at 22:30, Arun Sharma wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 04:27:30PM +0530, Tapan S. Parikh wrote:
> 
> hia,
> for some strange reasons, i'm not being enable to make mozilla
> render unicode text
> i have 1.1  (for linux) installed - and i wrote some text (bangla)
> in yudit
> i converted that into html, but mozilla could not render it :(
> ms ie could render the thing quite nicely, even the yuktakshars and
> stuffs were there 
> are u guys enabling some special option??
>
 Do you have a bangla unicode font or a unicode font having bangla
glyphs ?
 Unicode aware apps like Mozilla, KDE are able to show Indic
characters, but not the reordering & conjuncts etc.

 A patch for devanagari rendering in Mozilla ( this is usign pango )
is at 
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85204
 
 I think post workshop this could be one acitivty. Have a team which
works on adding indic rendering in Mozilla.

Regards,
Karunakar

Re: [Indic-computing-devel] Request for Participation

[Sayamindu D. <unm...@So...>]

i have the CODE2000 font installed
-sdg-

On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 13:34, Guntupalli Karunakar wrote:
> On 02 Sep 2002 23:27:11 +0530
> Sayamindu Dasgupta <unm...@So...> wrote:
>=20
> > On Mon, 2002-09-02 at 22:30, Arun Sharma wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 04:27:30PM +0530, Tapan S. Parikh wrote:
> >=20
> > hia,
> > for some strange reasons, i'm not being enable to make mozilla
> > render unicode text
> > i have 1.1  (for linux) installed - and i wrote some text (bangla)
> > in yudit
> > i converted that into html, but mozilla could not render it :(
> > ms ie could render the thing quite nicely, even the yuktakshars and
> > stuffs were there=20
> > are u guys enabling some special option??
> >
>  Do you have a bangla unicode font or a unicode font having bangla
> glyphs ?
>  Unicode aware apps like Mozilla, KDE are able to show Indic
> characters, but not the reordering & conjuncts etc.
>=20
>  A patch for devanagari rendering in Mozilla ( this is usign pango )
> is at=20
> http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D85204
> =20
>  I think post workshop this could be one acitivty. Have a team which
> works on adding indic rendering in Mozilla.
>=20
> Regards,
> Karunakar
>=20
>=20
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