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#8 Material doesn't show when loaded in MIB 2.01

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2017-07-19
2017-04-25
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Hi Ilya,

I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of MIB (2.01).

I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows that nothing is in the model.

I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't open. Thanks!

P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

Cheers,

Connon Thomas

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  • Ilya Belevich

    Ilya Belevich - 2017-04-25

    Hi,
    Do you have this problem only with some particular model file?
    is it large .model file? Could you send it to me, so that I can check?
    Indeed MIB1 can't read the models from MIB2. The other direction MIB1
    models in MIB2 is working fine. I probably have to implement saving of
    models in MIB1 format from MIB2.

    Ilya

     
    • Connon Thomas

      Connon Thomas - 2017-04-25

      Wow, you're fast.

      It's not one particular file, I am doing 5 other chunks of data that are also not working. They're all similar in size, maybe a bit large? I've worked with larger though (in previous versions). The stack I'm working with is 79 images at 3584 x 3333 pixels (~9 MB). I'll send it to you. Thanks!

      Connon

       

      Last edit: Connon Thomas 2017-04-25
  • Ilya Belevich

    Ilya Belevich - 2017-04-25

    Hi,
    Do you have this problem only with some particular model file?
    is it large .model file? Could you send it to me, so that I can check?
    Indeed MIB1 can't read the models from MIB2. The other direction MIB1
    models in MIB2 is working fine. I probably have to implement saving of
    models in MIB1 format from MIB2.

    Ilya

    On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Connon Thomas connont@users.sf.net wrote:


    [tickets:#8] Material doesn't show when loaded in MIB 2.01

    Status: New
    Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
    Last Updated: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC
    Owner: nobody

    Hi Ilya,

    I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of MIB
    (2.01).

    I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
    in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
    listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
    not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
    regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
    tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows that
    nothing is in the model.

    I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so
    the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but
    it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the update??
    I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't open.
    Thanks!

    P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone I
    talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

    Cheers,

    Connon Thomas


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  • Ilya Belevich

    Ilya Belevich - 2017-04-26

    Hi,
    thank you for the file, I've checked it.
    I found one bug during import of it from Matlab and fixed it. But I don't think that this bug is causing problems for you. Do you use compiled or matlab version of MIB?
    I can suggest 2 things:
    If you are using the Matlab version I can send you the current beta, where I fixed that bug with the import for testing
    Otherwise, we can have a Skype meeting where you can shere the screen and I will check what might be wrong.

    Ilya

     
  • Connon Thomas

    Connon Thomas - 2017-04-26

    Ilya,

    I use the compiled version; I'm on a computer that doesn't have Matlab. There is another computer I can use that does have the Matlab version, if you want to send me that and see if it works. If not, I think we can try Skype.

    Thanks!

     
  • Ilya Belevich

    Ilya Belevich - 2017-04-26

    ok, so it seems that the issue was due to singleton limitation of MIB version 2.00-2.01 (only one instance of MIB allowed at the time).
    In the next update this limitation should be fixed and multiple instances will be allowed.

    Ilya

     
  • Timm Mohr

    Timm Mohr - 2017-07-19

    Hi,

    I have the exact same problem. I have a .model .nrrd and .mask file. Neither show up, statistics are empty, Exterior seems to occupy the whole volume. I can still render the model in 3D slicer. I attached a picture of the files that I am using. Are the file sizes what you would expect? The .mrc fiel is 6.6GB the .nrrd model 3.3GB and the .model 21MB?

    Has this been resolved yet?

    Best wishes,

    Timm

     
    • Ilya Belevich

      Ilya Belevich - 2017-07-20

      Hi Timm,
      which version of mib do you use, is it matlab or compiled? wundows or mac?

      So your dataset is in Mrc and 6.6 gb. The model in nrrd file is 3gb, which
      indicates that uou are working with 16 bit images. I suggest to load mrc
      dataset, convert it to 8bit and save in amiramesh or nrrd format.This will
      improve general performance.
      Next, the .mask and the .model files are 70 and 20 Mb. When those files are
      saved Matlab compresses them, and since they are quite big the model and
      the mask should contain some data.
      Have you been able to render this .nrrd file in Slicer, but in mib it looks
      empty? Try to load the model again, highlight material that you have drawn
      in the segmentation table, press the right mouse button and select Get
      statistics. In the get statistics window press the Run button to find
      whether you have any objects in this material.

      Best regards,
      Ilya

      On Jul 19, 2017 17:35, "Timm Mohr" timmmmmm@users.sf.net wrote:

      Hi,

      I have the exact same problem. I have a .model .nrrd and .mask file.
      Neither show up, statistics are empty, Exterior seems to occupy the whole
      volume. I can still render the model in 3D slicer. I attached a picture of
      the files that I am using. Are the file sizes what you would expect? The
      .mrc fiel is 6.6GB the .nrrd model 3.3GB and the .model 21MB?

      Has this been resolved yet?

      Best wishes,

      Timm

      Attachments:


      Status: New
      Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
      Last Updated: Wed Apr 26, 2017 04:43 PM UTC
      Owner: nobody

      Hi Ilya,

      I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
      MIB (2.01).

      I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
      in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
      listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
      not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
      regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
      tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
      that nothing is in the model.

      I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so
      the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but
      it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
      update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
      open. Thanks!

      P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
      I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

      Cheers,

      Connon Thomas

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      • Timm Mohr

        Timm Mohr - 2017-07-20

        Sry I didn't see your next message. I am running the standalone 2.1 version
        on Windows. I thought I was running in 8 bit but I might be wrong, I did a
        lot of experimenting. It's really good to know that other formats increase
        performance.
        The material statistics are unfortunately empty in both the .model and
        .nrrd files.

        On 20 July 2017 at 08:35, Ilya Belevich ajaxel@users.sf.net wrote:

        Hi Timm,
        which version of mib do you use, is it matlab or compiled? wundows or mac?

        So your dataset is in Mrc and 6.6 gb. The model in nrrd file is 3gb, which
        indicates that uou are working with 16 bit images. I suggest to load mrc
        dataset, convert it to 8bit and save in amiramesh or nrrd format.This will
        improve general performance.
        Next, the .mask and the .model files are 70 and 20 Mb. When those files are
        saved Matlab compresses them, and since they are quite big the model and
        the mask should contain some data.
        Have you been able to render this .nrrd file in Slicer, but in mib it looks
        empty? Try to load the model again, highlight material that you have drawn
        in the segmentation table, press the right mouse button and select Get
        statistics. In the get statistics window press the Run button to find
        whether you have any objects in this material.

        Best regards,
        Ilya

        On Jul 19, 2017 17:35, "Timm Mohr" timmmmmm@users.sf.net wrote:

        Hi,

        I have the exact same problem. I have a .model .nrrd and .mask file.
        Neither show up, statistics are empty, Exterior seems to occupy the whole
        volume. I can still render the model in 3D slicer. I attached a picture of
        the files that I am using. Are the file sizes what you would expect? The
        .mrc fiel is 6.6GB the .nrrd model 3.3GB and the .model 21MB?

        Has this been resolved yet?

        Best wishes,

        Timm

        Attachments:


        Status: New
        Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
        Last Updated: Wed Apr 26, 2017 04:43 PM UTC
        Owner: nobody

        Hi Ilya,

        I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
        MIB (2.01).

        I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
        in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
        listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
        not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
        regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
        tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
        that nothing is in the model.

        I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so
        the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but
        it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
        update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
        open. Thanks!

        P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
        I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

        Cheers,
        Connon Thomas

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        Status: New
        Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
        Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:50 PM UTC
        Owner: nobody

        Hi Ilya,

        I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
        MIB (2.01).

        I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
        in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
        listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
        not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
        regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
        tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
        that nothing is in the model.

        I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it,
        so the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well
        but it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
        update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
        open. Thanks!

        P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
        I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

        Cheers,

        Connon Thomas

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        • Ilya Belevich

          Ilya Belevich - 2017-07-20

          Hi Timm,
          well, it is a bit difficult to comment.
          Could you share those model files? I can take a look. However, I am on
          holidays and will be able to check it only when I am back after about days.
          But it is strange, because you definitely have something in the model files.
          Best regards,
          Ilya

          On Jul 20, 2017 9:57 AM, "Timm Mohr" timmmmmm@users.sf.net wrote:

          Sry I didn't see your next message. I am running the standalone 2.1 version
          on Windows. I thought I was running in 8 bit but I might be wrong, I did a
          lot of experimenting. It's really good to know that other formats increase
          performance.
          The material statistics are unfortunately empty in both the .model and
          .nrrd files.

          On 20 July 2017 at 08:35, Ilya Belevich ajaxel@users.sf.net wrote:

          Hi Timm,
          which version of mib do you use, is it matlab or compiled? wundows or mac?

          So your dataset is in Mrc and 6.6 gb. The model in nrrd file is 3gb, which
          indicates that uou are working with 16 bit images. I suggest to load mrc
          dataset, convert it to 8bit and save in amiramesh or nrrd format.This will
          improve general performance.
          Next, the .mask and the .model files are 70 and 20 Mb. When those files are
          saved Matlab compresses them, and since they are quite big the model and
          the mask should contain some data.
          Have you been able to render this .nrrd file in Slicer, but in mib it looks
          empty? Try to load the model again, highlight material that you have drawn
          in the segmentation table, press the right mouse button and select Get
          statistics. In the get statistics window press the Run button to find
          whether you have any objects in this material.

          Best regards,
          Ilya

          On Jul 19, 2017 17:35, "Timm Mohr" timmmmmm@users.sf.net wrote:

          Hi,

          I have the exact same problem. I have a .model .nrrd and .mask file.
          Neither show up, statistics are empty, Exterior seems to occupy the whole
          volume. I can still render the model in 3D slicer. I attached a picture of
          the files that I am using. Are the file sizes what you would expect? The
          .mrc fiel is 6.6GB the .nrrd model 3.3GB and the .model 21MB?

          Has this been resolved yet?

          Best wishes,

          Timm

          Attachments:


          https://sourceforge.net/p/im-browser/tickets/8/ Material
          doesn't show when loaded in MIB 2.01*

          Status: New
          Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
          Last Updated: Wed Apr 26, 2017 04:43 PM UTC
          Owner: nobody

          Hi Ilya,

          I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
          MIB (2.01).

          I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
          in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
          listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
          not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
          regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
          tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
          that nothing is in the model.

          I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so
          the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but
          it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
          update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
          open. Thanks!

          P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
          I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

          Cheers,
          Connon Thomas

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          Status: New
          Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
          Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:50 PM UTC
          Owner: nobody

          Hi Ilya,

          I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
          MIB (2.01).

          I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
          in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
          listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
          not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
          regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
          tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
          that nothing is in the model.

          I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it,
          so the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well
          but it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
          update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
          open. Thanks!

          P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
          I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

          Cheers,
          Connon Thomas

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          Status: New
          Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
          Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:50 PM UTC
          Owner: nobody

          Hi Ilya,

          I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
          MIB (2.01).

          I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
          in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
          listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
          not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
          regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
          tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
          that nothing is in the model.

          I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so
          the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but
          it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
          update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
          open. Thanks!

          P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
          I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

          Cheers,

          Connon Thomas

          Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in
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          • Timm Mohr

            Timm Mohr - 2017-07-20

            Oh, of course. Please don't respond anymore :) Maybe once you are back you
            can let me know what way you want me to share the files?

            So sorry to have disturbed your holiday.

            On 20 July 2017 at 09:21, Ilya Belevich ajaxel@users.sf.net wrote:

            Hi Timm,
            well, it is a bit difficult to comment.
            Could you share those model files? I can take a look. However, I am on
            holidays and will be able to check it only when I am back after about days.
            But it is strange, because you definitely have something in the model
            files.
            Best regards,
            Ilya

            On Jul 20, 2017 9:57 AM, "Timm Mohr" timmmmmm@users.sf.net wrote:

            Sry I didn't see your next message. I am running the standalone 2.1 version
            on Windows. I thought I was running in 8 bit but I might be wrong, I did a
            lot of experimenting. It's really good to know that other formats increase
            performance.
            The material statistics are unfortunately empty in both the .model and
            .nrrd files.

            On 20 July 2017 at 08:35, Ilya Belevich ajaxel@users.sf.net wrote:

            Hi Timm,
            which version of mib do you use, is it matlab or compiled? wundows or mac?

            So your dataset is in Mrc and 6.6 gb. The model in nrrd file is 3gb, which
            indicates that uou are working with 16 bit images. I suggest to load mrc
            dataset, convert it to 8bit and save in amiramesh or nrrd format.This will
            improve general performance.
            Next, the .mask and the .model files are 70 and 20 Mb. When those files are
            saved Matlab compresses them, and since they are quite big the model and
            the mask should contain some data.
            Have you been able to render this .nrrd file in Slicer, but in mib it looks
            empty? Try to load the model again, highlight material that you have drawn
            in the segmentation table, press the right mouse button and select Get
            statistics. In the get statistics window press the Run button to find
            whether you have any objects in this material.

            Best regards,
            Ilya

            On Jul 19, 2017 17:35, "Timm Mohr" timmmmmm@users.sf.net wrote:

            Hi,

            I have the exact same problem. I have a .model .nrrd and .mask file.
            Neither show up, statistics are empty, Exterior seems to occupy the whole
            volume. I can still render the model in 3D slicer. I attached a picture of
            the files that I am using. Are the file sizes what you would expect? The
            .mrc fiel is 6.6GB the .nrrd model 3.3GB and the .model 21MB?

            Has this been resolved yet?

            Best wishes,

            Timm

            Attachments:


            https://sourceforge.net/p/im-browser/tickets/8/ Material
            doesn't show when loaded in MIB 2.01*

            Status: New
            Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
            Last Updated: Wed Apr 26, 2017 04:43 PM UTC
            Owner: nobody

            Hi Ilya,

            I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
            MIB (2.01).

            I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
            in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
            listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
            not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
            regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
            tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
            that nothing is in the model.

            I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so
            the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but
            it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
            update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
            open. Thanks!

            P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
            I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

            Cheers,
            Connon Thomas

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            Status: New
            Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
            Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:50 PM UTC
            Owner: nobody

            Hi Ilya,

            I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
            MIB (2.01).

            I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
            in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
            listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
            not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
            regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
            tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
            that nothing is in the model.

            I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it,
            so the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well
            but it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
            update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
            open. Thanks!

            P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
            I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

            Cheers,
            Connon Thomas

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            Status: New
            Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
            Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:50 PM UTC
            Owner: nobody

            Hi Ilya,

            I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
            MIB (2.01).

            I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
            in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
            listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
            not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
            regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
            tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
            that nothing is in the model.

            I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so
            the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but
            it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
            update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
            open. Thanks!

            P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
            I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

            Cheers,
            Connon Thomas

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            Status: New
            Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
            Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:50 PM UTC
            Owner: nobody

            Hi Ilya,

            I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
            MIB (2.01).

            I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
            in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
            listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
            not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
            regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
            tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
            that nothing is in the model.

            I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it,
            so the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well
            but it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
            update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
            open. Thanks!

            P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
            I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

            Cheers,

            Connon Thomas

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            • Ilya Belevich

              Ilya Belevich - 2017-07-26

              Hi Timm,
              could you send me to ilya.belevich -at- helsinki.fi the .model file?
              It is big for the attachment, so better to use google drive or dropbox
              for sharing it.
              Thanks!
              Ilya

              On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Timm Mohr timmmmmm@users.sf.net wrote:

              Oh, of course. Please don't respond anymore :) Maybe once you are back you
              can let me know what way you want me to share the files?

              So sorry to have disturbed your holiday.

              On 20 July 2017 at 09:21, Ilya Belevich ajaxel@users.sf.net wrote:

              Hi Timm,
              well, it is a bit difficult to comment.
              Could you share those model files? I can take a look. However, I am on
              holidays and will be able to check it only when I am back after about days.
              But it is strange, because you definitely have something in the model
              files.
              Best regards,
              Ilya

              On Jul 20, 2017 9:57 AM, "Timm Mohr" timmmmmm@users.sf.net wrote:

              Sry I didn't see your next message. I am running the standalone 2.1 version
              on Windows. I thought I was running in 8 bit but I might be wrong, I did a
              lot of experimenting. It's really good to know that other formats increase
              performance.
              The material statistics are unfortunately empty in both the .model and
              .nrrd files.

              On 20 July 2017 at 08:35, Ilya Belevich ajaxel@users.sf.net wrote:

              Hi Timm,
              which version of mib do you use, is it matlab or compiled? wundows or mac?

              So your dataset is in Mrc and 6.6 gb. The model in nrrd file is 3gb, which
              indicates that uou are working with 16 bit images. I suggest to load mrc
              dataset, convert it to 8bit and save in amiramesh or nrrd format.This will
              improve general performance.
              Next, the .mask and the .model files are 70 and 20 Mb. When those files are
              saved Matlab compresses them, and since they are quite big the model and
              the mask should contain some data.
              Have you been able to render this .nrrd file in Slicer, but in mib it looks
              empty? Try to load the model again, highlight material that you have drawn
              in the segmentation table, press the right mouse button and select Get
              statistics. In the get statistics window press the Run button to find
              whether you have any objects in this material.

              Best regards,
              Ilya

              On Jul 19, 2017 17:35, "Timm Mohr" timmmmmm@users.sf.net wrote:

              Hi,

              I have the exact same problem. I have a .model .nrrd and .mask file.
              Neither show up, statistics are empty, Exterior seems to occupy the whole
              volume. I can still render the model in 3D slicer. I attached a picture of
              the files that I am using. Are the file sizes what you would expect? The
              .mrc fiel is 6.6GB the .nrrd model 3.3GB and the .model 21MB?

              Has this been resolved yet?

              Best wishes,

              Timm

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              https://sourceforge.net/p/im-browser/tickets/8/ Material
              doesn't show when loaded in MIB 2.01*

              Status: New
              Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
              Last Updated: Wed Apr 26, 2017 04:43 PM UTC
              Owner: nobody

              Hi Ilya,

              I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
              MIB (2.01).

              I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
              in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
              listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
              not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
              regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
              tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
              that nothing is in the model.

              I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so
              the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but
              it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
              update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
              open. Thanks!

              P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
              I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

              Cheers,
              Connon Thomas

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              https://sourceforge.net/p/im-browser/tickets/8/ Material
              doesn't show when loaded in MIB 2.01*

              Status: New
              Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
              Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:50 PM UTC
              Owner: nobody

              Hi Ilya,

              I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
              MIB (2.01).

              I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
              in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
              listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
              not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
              regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
              tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
              that nothing is in the model.

              I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it,
              so the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well
              but it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
              update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
              open. Thanks!

              P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
              I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

              Cheers,
              Connon Thomas

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              https://sourceforge.net/p/im-browser/tickets/8/ Material
              doesn't show when loaded in MIB 2.01*

              Status: New
              Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
              Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:50 PM UTC
              Owner: nobody

              Hi Ilya,

              I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
              MIB (2.01).

              I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
              in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
              listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
              not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
              regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
              tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
              that nothing is in the model.

              I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so
              the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but
              it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
              update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
              open. Thanks!

              P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
              I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

              Cheers,
              Connon Thomas

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              [tickets:#8] https://sourceforge.net/p/im-browser/tickets/8/ Material
              doesn't show when loaded in MIB 2.01*

              Status: New
              Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
              Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:50 PM UTC
              Owner: nobody

              Hi Ilya,

              I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
              MIB (2.01).

              I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
              in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
              listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
              not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
              regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
              tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
              that nothing is in the model.

              I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it,
              so the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well
              but it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
              update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
              open. Thanks!

              P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
              I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

              Cheers,

              Connon Thomas

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              [tickets:#8] Material doesn't show when loaded in MIB 2.01

              Status: New
              Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
              Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:50 PM UTC
              Owner: nobody

              Hi Ilya,

              I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of MIB
              (2.01).

              I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
              in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
              listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
              not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
              regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
              tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows that
              nothing is in the model.

              I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so
              the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but
              it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the update??
              I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't open.
              Thanks!

              P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone I
              talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

              Cheers,

              Connon Thomas


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  • Timm Mohr

    Timm Mohr - 2017-07-19

    An odd thing I just noticed. I made a test model with just some squiggles added to a material. I saved it and it loads up again. When I then try to load my model again(currently 15 materials) it still shows the squiggles but in a different colour (I deleted the first material on my model). The .model files also take quite a while to load.

     
  • Ilya Belevich

    Ilya Belevich - 2017-07-20

    When I then try to load my model
    again(currently 15 materials) it still shows
    the squiggles but in a different colour
    I recommend to save the models in the matlab model format. In this case the
    colors should stay. In most of other formats it is not possible to preserve
    the colors of materials. When I work with models in mib I use .model
    format, and only when I need to export the model to another program I
    resave it in one of other formats.

    The .model files also take quite a while to load
    yes, for some strange reason it does. It is Matlab functions and it uses
    compression (that is why the files are just some Mb and not Gb). Possibly
    this compression/decompression is causing the slowness. Also it might be
    that something is not optimized in that matlab function.

    Best regards,
    Ilya

    On Jul 19, 2017 17:50, "Timm Mohr" timmmmmm@users.sf.net wrote:

    An odd thing I just noticed. I made a test model with just some squiggles
    added to a material. I saved it and it loads up again. When I then try to
    load my model again(currently 15 materials) it still shows the squiggles
    but in a different colour (I deleted the first material on my model). The
    .model files also take quite a while to load.


    Status: New
    Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
    Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:35 PM UTC
    Owner: nobody

    Hi Ilya,

    I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
    MIB (2.01).

    I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
    in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
    listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
    not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
    regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
    tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
    that nothing is in the model.

    I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so
    the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but
    it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
    update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
    open. Thanks!

    P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
    I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

    Cheers,

    Connon Thomas

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    • Timm Mohr

      Timm Mohr - 2017-07-20

      Hi Ilya,

      did you see my first message? My main problem at the moment is that the
      model is not showing up and appears to be empty although the data seem to
      be there still.

      Timm

      On 20 July 2017 at 08:28, Ilya Belevich ajaxel@users.sf.net wrote:

      When I then try to load my model
      again(currently 15 materials) it still shows
      the squiggles but in a different colour
      I recommend to save the models in the matlab model format. In this case the
      colors should stay. In most of other formats it is not possible to preserve
      the colors of materials. When I work with models in mib I use .model
      format, and only when I need to export the model to another program I
      resave it in one of other formats.

      The .model files also take quite a while to load
      yes, for some strange reason it does. It is Matlab functions and it uses
      compression (that is why the files are just some Mb and not Gb). Possibly
      this compression/decompression is causing the slowness. Also it might be
      that something is not optimized in that matlab function.

      Best regards,
      Ilya

      On Jul 19, 2017 17:50, "Timm Mohr" timmmmmm@users.sf.net wrote:

      An odd thing I just noticed. I made a test model with just some squiggles
      added to a material. I saved it and it loads up again. When I then try to
      load my model again(currently 15 materials) it still shows the squiggles
      but in a different colour (I deleted the first material on my model). The
      .model files also take quite a while to load.


      Status: New
      Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
      Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:35 PM UTC
      Owner: nobody

      Hi Ilya,

      I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
      MIB (2.01).

      I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
      in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
      listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
      not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
      regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
      tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
      that nothing is in the model.

      I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it, so
      the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well but
      it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
      update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
      open. Thanks!

      P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
      I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

      Cheers,
      Connon Thomas

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      Status: New
      Created: Tue Apr 25, 2017 08:25 PM UTC by Connon Thomas
      Last Updated: Wed Jul 19, 2017 03:50 PM UTC
      Owner: nobody

      Hi Ilya,

      I'm having a frustrating and confusing issue with the current version of
      MIB (2.01).

      I created a material in MIB, saved it as .model and tried to open it again
      in a new MIB window, but once it "loads", the material is blank. It is
      listed in the Material panel, but no overlay shows up in the viewer. It's
      not an issue with the transparency, I don't have the material hidden, and
      regardless of the file type, it won't appear (I saved .model, .am, .tif and
      tried to open all of them...nothing). Doing model statistics also shows
      that nothing is in the model.

      I can open the file in FIJI and after doing an auto-contrast can see it,
      so the data is there...I tried opening on previous versions of MIB as well
      but it won't open there either. Have you experienced this bug since the
      update?? I'm a bit worried since I have about 3 weeks of data that I can't
      open. Thanks!

      P.S. MIB is awesome, I work with it every day and reccomend it to everyone
      I talk to, particularly love the watershed/graphcut function, it's genius.

      Cheers,

      Connon Thomas

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