Re: [icu-support] Is Unix System Service (USS) mandatory on z/OS?

[Steven R. L. <sr...@ic...>]

Dave,
 Thanks for your note.   All of what you mentioned would have to be 
implemented differently to work without USS (as I understand it).  The 
benefit is not clear to me.

-s

mcl...@em... wrote:
> hi JSat-san: I'm curious about your worry about USS for building ICU, 
> and whether or not your worry extends to runtime also.   USS is a 
> required part of z/OS now, and has been for a while and the OS can't 
> run without it correct? (sheesh, there are lots of IBM folks on this 
> list who know a heck of lot more than I about it).
>  
> You still need to USS file system to run programs that use ICU, 
> correct?   Even if you were able to create a build system running 
> batch JCL or even TSO Clists or Rexx execs, you still have the issue 
> of storing binaries into the USS files and then at runtime loading 
> DLLs, open and reading .dat and/or .res files in the USS file system, 
> and other stuff. 
>  
> Sorry, if I've confused the issue, but I was just curious about your 
> USS concerns.
>  
> Dave
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> *From:* s-...@ji... [mailto:s-...@ji...]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 13, 2009 8:24 PM
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> Thanks for your great help, Steven.
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> Regards
> jSat
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> *"Steven R. Loomis" <sr...@ic...>*
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> jSat,
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>  In the ICU Readme we give a method for building (compiling from 
> source) binary modules for ICU for this platform. If you do not wish 
> to use USS , you will need to determine some other way of executing 
> the compiler, linker, etc on the ICU code.
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> I hope this helps.
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> Steven
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> On Apr 13, 2009, at 5:05 PM, _s-...@ji....jp_ 
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> Thank you very much for your info.
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> >USS is mandatory for building ICU without re-implementing the build 
> system.
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> I'd like just to clarify what you're saying.
> Is this correct that "re-implementing" means re-compiling related ICU 
> source codes on z/OS native file system?
> In other words, although binary modules such as ICU libraries and 
> converters are not provided for z/OS,  I can build them myself.
> How can I understand it?
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> Thanks & Regards,
> jSat
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> USS is mandatory for building ICU without re-implementing the build 
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> -s
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> On Apr 13, 2009, at 4:40 PM, _s-...@ji....jp_ 
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> Hello, experts,
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> I want to install and use ICU v4.0 on z/OS.
> Does anybody know whether USS is mandatory to achieve this?
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> Regards,-