hypercontent-users

[Hypercontent-users] HyperContent 2.0b3 released

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

Hello all,
	I have just added the beta 3 release to the HyperContent home page.  
This release contains fixes for a variety of bugs raised on and off 
this list, and introduces the scheduling component, which offers you 
the ability to define calendar-based, fixed-interval or specific 
date-time schedules for workflow events.  This includes support for 
user-defined schedules; the new schedule script allows you to specify 
the appearance and expiration time for a file, or even for a version of 
a file.  The approvals script now sends out daily reminders for files 
requiring approval, and the publish script in the sample project is set 
up to publish on an hourly basis.  These are just examples to show you 
how it's done; it's expected that you would want to tweak the schedules 
and scripts for your own requirements in real use.
	This is the version we will be using going into our pilot production 
site migration over the next couple of weeks here at Columbia.  I 
encourage everyone who is actively checking out HC2 to upgrade to this 
beta, since some of the bug fixes are potentially critical.  I expect 
to release the final version of 2.0 in the next 2-6 weeks, once we have 
successfully migrated one or two projects in production and worked 
through any critical issues identified by our real users, and by all of 
you.

Cheers,
	Alex

Re: [Hypercontent-users] Project Definition xml

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

Hi Liying,
	You'll find a directory =
"/config/project-definition.xml/editions/" in=20
your project repository (whose base path you configured in=20
filesystem.xml).  Under this directory will be a sub-directory for each=20=

edition you have saved; go into the most recent directory (the highest=20=

number) and edit "data_file".

-Alex

On Jul 8, 2005, at 5:11 PM, Liying Miao wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> =A0
> Could I physically edit the project-definition .xml instead of edit=20
> from web? I was trying to add an xml-doctype and didn=92t do it=20
> correctly, and now I can=92t get to it online, instead, I get java=20
> errors.
> =A0
> If yes, where is the file please? I only see project-definition.xml in=20=

> this folder:=20
> C:\hc2.0\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\bootstrap\config
> =A0
> Thanks,
> Liying
> =A0
> =A0
>
> From: hyp...@li...=20
> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of=20=

> Alex Vigdor
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 11:39 AM
> To: 'Hypercontent-users' users
> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Ant Configuration Problem
> =A0
>> Hi Liying,
>>  This is not a serious error; the XML isn't really intended for=20
>> display, but rather for use as a data storage format, and=20
>> HyperContent uses an Oasis XML catalog=20
>> (/classes/properties/catalog.xml) to map these URLs to local copies=20=

>> of the core DTDs (this is why the DTD is found fine when you go to=20
>> edit the file, even though it isn't up on the web site yet). No=20
>> matter what you do, don't try to change the URL of those core system=20=

>> DTDs! Some, for example the custom-dictionary DTD, must have the=20
>> exact URL in order to function properly.
>>
>>  I will try to load those DTDs on the web site later today, after I=20=

>> finish packaging the beta3 release, to remove the annoyance of those=20=

>> browser errors. Just as a note, I believe Firefox and Mozilla will go=20=

>> ahead and display the XML whether or not they find the DTD; that=20
>> error is really IE specific.
>>
>>  Alex
>>

[Hypercontent-users] Re: can not upload .pdf file from my PC

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

Hi Ping,
	HyperContent does not enable you to edit content that is already =
in =20
PDF format; what it allows you to do is transform your XML files in the =20=

repository into PDF as well as HTML output.  The value of this is that =20=

your PDF and HTML output are automatically kept in sync. This does not =20=

generate any PDF files in your repository, but rather generates it as =20=

an output that can be accessed via the HC2 server and published to your =20=

web site.

In order to trigger PDF output, you must configure an output of type =20
"application/pdf" for your xml-doctype, and associate it with an XSL:FO =20=

stylesheet.  This is mentioned in the documentation chapters on "XML =20
Content" and "XSL Transformations".  For examples of using XSL:FO in =20
HyperContent, have a look at these stylesheets in the sample project:

/xsl/html_fo.xsl
/xsl/common_fo.xl
/xsl/docs_fo.xsl

You can see how they are configured as outputs for the documentation in =20=

project-definition.xml.

For more background on XSL:FO, please visit the W3c XSL site, which is =20=

also mentioned in the HyperContent 1.4 manual.

http://www.w3.org/Style/XSL/

-Alex

On Jul 8, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Wu, Ping wrote:

>
> Hi, Alex;
>  =A0
> We used 2.0 standalone services, after create new folder and files; we =
=20
> want our page have the two format, look like your =93document=94 page, =
can =20
> have =93html=94 format and =93pdf=94 format.
> =A0
> But after I finish index.html, I can not upload .pdf file form my PC. =20=

> Would you tell me how can upload .pdf file, and how to edit.
> =A0
> Even I can not edit your sample project look like =20
> http://localhost:8080/sample/docs/jasig06_2004/index.xml?=20
> mode=3Dinteractive&screen=3Dview.1
> =A0
> Would you please help us ASAP.
> =A0
> =A0
>  Thanks a lot
>  =A0
>  Ping Wu
>  Computer Specialist
> Florida A&M University
>  (850) 412- 7973
>  =A0

Re: [Hypercontent-users] Ant Configuration Problem

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

Hi Liying,
	This is not a serious error; the XML isn't really intended for =20=

display, but rather for use as a data storage format, and HyperContent =20=

uses an Oasis XML catalog (/classes/properties/catalog.xml) to map =20
these URLs to local copies of the core DTDs (this is why the DTD is =20
found fine when you go to edit the file, even though it isn't up on the =20=

web site yet).  No matter what you do, don't try to change the URL of =20=

those core system DTDs!  Some, for example the custom-dictionary DTD, =20=

must have the exact URL in order to function properly.

I will try to load those DTDs on the web site later today, after I =20
finish packaging the beta3 release, to remove the annoyance of those =20
browser errors. Just as a note, I believe Firefox and Mozilla will go =20=

ahead and display the XML whether or not they find the DTD; that error =20=

is really IE specific.

Alex=09

On Jul 8, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Liying Miao wrote:

>
> Hi Alex,
> =A0
> The error goes away by being changed to "/". I just don't understand =20=

> why it works in the other uPortal ant commands.
> =A0
> Anyway, we are still at the stage of testing the versions of uPortal =20=

> and HC, both HC2.0 and HC1.4. Here is another question:
> =A0
> When I click on =93View=94 link, it shows:
>
> The XML page cannot be displayed
>
> Cannot view XML input using style sheet. Please correct the error and =20=

> then click the Refresh button, or try again later.
>
>
> The system cannot locate the object specified. Error processing =20
> resource 'http://hypercontent.sourceforge.net/dtd/hypercont...
> Is that because this filesystem.dtd doesn=92t exist in =20
> http://hypercontent.sourceforge.net/dtd/ directory? Is it defined in =20=

> filesystem.xml(<!DOCTYPE repository SYSTEM =20
> "http://hypercontent.sourceforge.net/dtd/filesystems.dtd">). Shall I =20=

> change it to <!DOCTYPE repository SYSTEM =20
> "/source/properties/dtd/filesystems.dtd">? I=92m not sure about the =
path =20
> though.
> =A0
> Thanks for all the help,
> Liying
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
>
> From: hyp...@li... =20
> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of =20=

> Alex Vigdor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 5:52 PM
> To: 'Hypercontent-users'
> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Ant Configuration Problem
> =A0
>
> Hi Liying,
>  In your last example, the ant directory name changed from upper to =20=

> lowercase, perhaps that is the cause of the last error?
>
>  I take it you're trying to install v1.4 now. You will have to adjust =20=

> the paths in build.properties for it to install properly in a current =20=

> uPortal release, as HC1.4 was released back around uPortal 2.2.x. =20
> Also, the "auto-publish" command does not work in newer uPortals; you =20=

> can search this mailing list archive for instructions on manually =20
> publishing the HC1.4 channel in uPortal.
>
>  -Alex
>
>  On Jul 5, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Liying Miao wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
> I have a problem withrunning ant 1.6.2. I have setANT_HOME in path.
>
> Here is the problem:
>
> When Itype Ant, it works:
>
> C:\UPORTAL>ant
>
> C:\UPORTAL>set ANT_HOME=3D./Ant_1-6-2
>
> C:\UPORTAL>./Ant_1-6-2/bin/ant.bat
>
> Buildfile: build.xml
>
> help:
>
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 [echo] Please read the README file which explains how to =
operate =20
> this uPort
>
> al quick-start package
>
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 [echo] To see the possible ant targets, type 'ant =
-projecthelp'
>
> BUILD SUCCESSFUL
>
> Total time: 0 seconds
>
> However, whenI typeant =96buildfileHyperContent1_4\build.xml, it =
doesn=92t =20
> read build.xml in another directory.
>
> C:\UPORTAL>./Ant_1-6-2/bin/ant.bat -buildfile
>
> You must specify a buildfile when using the -buildfile argument
>
> Then whenI tried directly:
>
> C:\UPORTAL>./ant_1-6-2/bin/ant.bat -buildfile =
HyperContent1_4\build.xml
>
> I get error message '.' is not recognized as an internalor external =20=

> command, operable program or batch file.
>
> My path:
>
> Path=3DC:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32\WBEM;C:=20
> \Program Files\Co
>
> mmon Files\OpSession\Shared;C:\Program Files\Common =20
> Files\OpSession\Viewer Share
>
> d;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adaptec =20
> Shared\System;C:\PROGRA~1\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN
>
> ;C:\PROGRA~1\IBM\SQLLIB\FUNCTION; C:\Program =20
> Files\Java\jdk1.5.0_02\bin;C:\Progr
>
> am Files\MySQL\MySQL Server 4.1\bin;C:\UPORTAL\Ant_1-6-2\\bin
>
> PATHEXT=3D.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH
>
> Please help!I couldn=92t figure it out!!!
>
>  Liying Miao
>
>  ERP/IT
> Florida A&M University

[Hypercontent-users] Re: Security for Hypercontent 2.0

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

Hi Peners,
	HyperContent 2 is set up to accommodate any user who =
successfully=20
authenticates into the system.   HC2 uses JAAS LoginModules to perform=20=

authentication; the built-in module validates against an MD-5 hash of=20
the user's password in a user file.  A CAS/JAAS module is planned for=20
development soon.   What method of authentication are you using?
	Read, write, create, delete, build, publish & approve =
permissions can=20
all be controlled on a per-project basis in the file=20
"/config/permissions.xml".  The model is very similar to uPortal's=20
Groups and Permissions.  Each permissions has 4 components:

Principal
	- the user or group name that the permission applies to
	  (by convention, group names in HC2 are prefixed with "group:" =
to=20
avoid name collisions with users)

Activity
	- read, write, create, delete, build, publish or approve
	  (custom activities can be used in controlling workflows)

Target
	- The pattern of files or directories to which the permission =
applies,=20
e.g.
		/**/*.*  =3D all files
		/**/  =3D all directories
		/students/*.xml  =3D all XML files in the students =
directory
		/students/**/*.*  =3D all files in the students =
directory or=20
recursively any of its subdirectories
		/index.xml  =3D the home page
Denied
	- if true, indicates that this is a negating permission

When multiple permissions match a given file or directory for a given=20
user, the permission with the most specific pattern is applied, e.g.=20
given

	Denied=3D"false" target=3D"/students/**/*.*"
	Denied=3D"true" target=3D"/students/**/sensitive/*.*"

Access to any file in a directory named "sensitive" below the students=20=

directory will be blocked.

Groups are specified per-project in "/config/groups.xml".  Each group=20
is assigned a name, and can have any number of group or user=20
sub-elements.  There are two special group names: "group:anybody"=20
applies to any user session, even if unauthenticated, allowing=20
world-read privileges to be established.   "group:admin" is used to=20
configure superusers, who are automatically granted all permissions. =20
User IDs configured in group:admin in the bootstrap project are=20
superusers across all projects, whereas users listed in group:admin in=20=

a project's groups file are superusers for that project only.

-Alex

On Jul 6, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Peners Griffin wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> =A0
> I=92m working with Ping and Lilying on implementing Hypercontent 2.0. =
Is=20
> there anyway I can break security down to where only certain=20
> departments and certain links can be viewed by certain people? I know=20=

> of the admin, author, approver, and publisher but how can I break that=20=

> down where when a person logs in there only able to view certain=20
> things? Also, will I be able to set up security where people can use=20=

> there name as logins?
> =A0
> =A0
> Thanks,
> =A0
> P.L. =A0

Re: [Hypercontent-users] Ant Configuration Problem

[Carl B. <C.P...@hu...>]

Hy Liying

A while ago I moved HyperContent 1.4 from our test portal to our live 
portal.  I manually published it because that seemed best way to go.  I 
noted down what I did, this might be of help. Although our live portal 
is uPortal 2.1.4 so file structure may differ but it will give you any 
idea of the files and where they need to go.  We are running uPortal 
with Apache and Resin on a Unix system,  you probably won't be running 
with the same config,


TRANSFER

copy over install directory
/local/uPortal/uPortal_rel-2-1-4/HyperContent1_4

copy over HyperContent classes.
/local/uPortal/uPortal_rel-2-1-4/webpages/WEB-INF/classes/edu/Columbia

copy over project repositories
/local/uPortal/uPortal_rel-2-1-4/hypercontent-repositories

copy over htmlarea directory
/local/uPortal/uPortal_rel-2-1-4/webpages/htmlarea

copy over HyperContent properties directory
/local/uPortal/uPortal_rel-2-1-4/webpages/WEB-INF/classes/properties/hypercontent

copy over Media files
/local/uPortal/uPortal_rel-2-1-4/webpages/media/edu

copy over lib directory
/local/uPortal/uPortal_rel-2-1-4/webpages/WEB-INF/lib

copy over FileSystemConfig.xml
/local/uPortal/uPortal_rel-2-1-4/webpages/WEB-INF/classes/properties


CHANNEL SETUP

Switch to simple security

Restart resin

Login as Admin

Add channel in channel manager with channel class
edu.columbia.hypercontent.contentmanager.CContentManager

Restart resin

Login as staff

Add the channel to the layout


Alex Vigdor wrote:

> Hi Liying,
> In your last example, the ant directory name changed from upper to 
> lowercase, perhaps that is the cause of the last error?
>
> I take it you're trying to install v1.4 now. You will have to adjust 
> the paths in build.properties for it to install properly in a current 
> uPortal release, as HC1.4 was released back around uPortal 2.2.x. 
> Also, the "auto-publish" command does not work in newer uPortals; you 
> can search this mailing list archive for instructions on manually 
> publishing the HC1.4 channel in uPortal.
>
> -Alex
>
> On Jul 5, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Liying Miao wrote:
>
>     Hi All,
>
>
>     I have a problem with running ant 1.6.2. I have set ANT_HOME in path.
>
>     Here is the problem:
>
>     When I type Ant, it works:
>
>     C:\UPORTAL>ant
>
>     C:\UPORTAL>set ANT_HOME=./Ant_1-6-2
>
>     C:\UPORTAL>./Ant_1-6-2/bin/ant.bat
>
>     Buildfile: build.xml
>
>     help:
>
>          [echo] Please read the README file which explains how to
>     operate this uPort
>
>     al quick-start package
>
>          [echo] To see the possible ant targets, type 'ant -projecthelp'
>
>     BUILD SUCCESSFUL
>
>     Total time: 0 seconds
>
>     However, when I type ant –buildfile HyperContent1_4\build.xml, it
>     doesn’t read build.xml in another directory.
>
>     C:\UPORTAL>./Ant_1-6-2/bin/ant.bat -buildfile
>
>     You must specify a buildfile when using the -buildfile argument
>
>     Then when I tried directly:
>
>     C:\UPORTAL>./ant_1-6-2/bin/ant.bat -buildfile
>     HyperContent1_4\build.xml
>
>     I get error message '.' is not recognized as an internal or
>     external command, operable program or batch file.
>
>     My path:
>
>     Path=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32\WBEM;C:\Program
>     Files\Co
>
>     mmon Files\OpSession\Shared;C:\Program Files\Common
>     Files\OpSession\Viewer Share
>
>     d;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adaptec
>     Shared\System;C:\PROGRA~1\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN
>
>     ;C:\PROGRA~1\IBM\SQLLIB\FUNCTION; C:\Program
>     Files\Java\jdk1.5.0_02\bin;C:\Progr
>
>     am Files\MySQL\MySQL Server 4.1\bin;C:\UPORTAL\Ant_1-6-2\\bin
>
>     PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH
>
>     Please help! I couldn’t figure it out!!!
>
>     Liying Miao
>
>     ERP/IT
>     Florida A&M University
>

-- 
************************************

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Systems Integrator
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Re: [Hypercontent-users] Ant Configuration Problem

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

Hi Liying,
	In your last example, the ant directory name changed from upper =
to =20
lowercase, perhaps that is the cause of the last error?

	I take it you're trying to install v1.4 now.  You will have to =
adjust =20
the paths in build.properties for it to install properly in a current =20=

uPortal release, as HC1.4 was released back around uPortal 2.2.x.  =20
Also, the "auto-publish" command does not work in newer uPortals; you =20=

can search this mailing list archive for instructions on manually =20
publishing the HC1.4 channel in uPortal.

-Alex

On Jul 5, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Liying Miao wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
> I have a problem with running ant 1.6.2. I have set ANT_HOME in path.
>
> Here is the problem:
>
> When I type Ant, it works:
>
> C:\UPORTAL>ant
>
> C:\UPORTAL>set ANT_HOME=3D./Ant_1-6-2
>
> C:\UPORTAL>./Ant_1-6-2/bin/ant.bat
>
> Buildfile: build.xml
>
> help:
>
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 [echo] Please read the README file which explains how to =
operate =20
> this uPort
>
> al quick-start package
>
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 [echo] To see the possible ant targets, type 'ant =
-projecthelp'
>
> BUILD SUCCESSFUL
>
> Total time: 0 seconds
>
> However, when I type ant =96buildfile HyperContent1_4\build.xml, it =20=

> doesn=92t read build.xml in another directory.
>
> C:\UPORTAL>./Ant_1-6-2/bin/ant.bat -buildfile
>
> You must specify a buildfile when using the -buildfile argument
>
> Then when I tried directly:
>
> C:\UPORTAL>./ant_1-6-2/bin/ant.bat -buildfile =
HyperContent1_4\build.xml
>
> I get error message '.' is not recognized as an internal or external =20=

> command, operable program or batch file.
>
> My path:
>
> Path=3DC:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32\WBEM;C:=20
> \Program Files\Co
>
> mmon Files\OpSession\Shared;C:\Program Files\Common =20
> Files\OpSession\Viewer Share
>
> d;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adaptec =20
> Shared\System;C:\PROGRA~1\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN
>
> ;C:\PROGRA~1\IBM\SQLLIB\FUNCTION; C:\Program =20
> Files\Java\jdk1.5.0_02\bin;C:\Progr
>
> am Files\MySQL\MySQL Server 4.1\bin;C:\UPORTAL\Ant_1-6-2\\bin
>
> PATHEXT=3D.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH
>
> Please help! I couldn=92t figure it out!!!
>
> Liying Miao
>
> ERP/IT
>  Florida A&M University
>

[Hypercontent-users] Ant Configuration Problem

[Liying M. <liy...@fa...>]

Hi All,


I have a problem with running ant 1.6.2. I have set ANT_HOME in path.

Here is the problem:

When I type Ant, it works:

C:\UPORTAL>ant

C:\UPORTAL>set ANT_HOME=./Ant_1-6-2

C:\UPORTAL>./Ant_1-6-2/bin/ant.bat
Buildfile: build.xml

help:
     [echo] Please read the README file which explains how to operate this
uPort
al quick-start package
     [echo] To see the possible ant targets, type 'ant -projecthelp'

BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 0 seconds

However, when I type ant -buildfile HyperContent1_4\build.xml, it doesn't
read build.xml in another directory.

C:\UPORTAL>./Ant_1-6-2/bin/ant.bat -buildfile
You must specify a buildfile when using the -buildfile argument

Then when I tried directly:
C:\UPORTAL>./ant_1-6-2/bin/ant.bat -buildfile HyperContent1_4\build.xml

I get error message '.' is not recognized as an internal or external
command, operable program or batch file.

My path:
Path=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32\WBEM;C:\Program
Files\Co
mmon Files\OpSession\Shared;C:\Program Files\Common Files\OpSession\Viewer
Share
d;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adaptec
Shared\System;C:\PROGRA~1\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN
;C:\PROGRA~1\IBM\SQLLIB\FUNCTION; C:\Program
Files\Java\jdk1.5.0_02\bin;C:\Progr
am Files\MySQL\MySQL Server 4.1\bin;C:\UPORTAL\Ant_1-6-2\\bin
PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH

Please help! I couldn't figure it out!!!

Liying Miao
ERP/IT 
Florida A&M University 

Re: [Hypercontent-users] HyperContent slow performance with large project

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

Hi Juris,
	Having looked at your project briefly, I would say the first 
optimization you should focus on is your use of includes.  For example, 
to create the 36kb page "/studijas/index.html", you are processing 3226 
includes adding up to 4.4 MB of data.  The first thing to check is 
whether you need the absolute patterns

/*/*/*
/*/*

or whether you could use relative paths like

*/*
*

If you need to use the absolute patterns in order to find occasional 
references to content outside of the current directory, it is advisable 
to consider some possible design changes:

1) You can dynamically include the data of any single file using the 
xsl "document" function
2) You can dynamically include the metadata of any single file using 
the xsl "document" function by appending ".rdf" to the file path
3) You can use the navigation/site map feature to manage ad-hoc links 
between sections

In some cases it is possible to implement 1) or 2) quite easily; 
switching to 3) has a lot of performance and usability benefits, but 
can also require a lot more work to transition from an existing site.

It looks like there may be some pages where you are including

/*/*
/*/*/*
/*/*/*/*

but in XSL, looking only for the index pages of ancestor directories; 
you can achieve this much more efficiently by including

index.xml
../index.xml
../../index.xml

There are also some XSL optimizations you could make, like using more 
keys, e.g.

<xsl:key name="directory" match="/cms:wrapper/cms:include" 
use="@directory"/>

to lookup includes by directory, rather than calling

/cms:wrapper/cms:include/[(@directory=$dir) and (...)]

you would call

key('directory',$dir)[(...)]

But I believe the bulk of your performance problems come from the 
includes!  Approach it one doctype at a time, try to use the most 
specific and/or relative patterns as possible, and test any 
optimizations carefully to avoid unintended consequences.  You can 
always configure a "text/xml" output from any of your doctypes with all 
of your includes and no transformation, so you can see how much data is 
being passed into your XSL.

Good luck!

Alex


On Jul 4, 2005, at 9:22 AM, Juris Treibahs wrote:

>    Hello, Alex!
>    Thanks for your answer to my last post. I set up HyperContent 2.0b2 
> succsessfully. We have large project for University of Latvia 
> http://www.lu.lv. In my opinion it is rather complicated. This project 
> works with HyperConten2 very slow. I have to wait for some time for 
> page display when navigating directoties and previewing the result of 
> transformation of xml files, saving, processing changes. Trying on 
> different OS and server versions gave same results. In earlier posts I 
> found that performance is related to number of includes and XSL 
> structure. Could you take a look at it? I made a copy the part of the 
> project and put it on server 
> http://portaldv.lanet.lv/rss/cms_project/lu_v4.zip
>
> Best wishes,
> Juris Treibahs
> University Of Latvia
>
>
>
>
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RE: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions

[Liying M. <liy...@fa...>]

Thanks to all,

I did forget to put mount point in the project under newly installed HC,
which wasn't the cause to the old project though, but...... it's ok, I'll
just start fresh.

Thanks again for all the help.
Liying


-----Original Message-----
From: hyp...@li...
[mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of Carl
Barrow
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 4:19 AM
Cc: 'Hypercontent-users'
Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions

Hi

Yes, thats all the problem is there.  Sorry I wasn't around to help out 
with the other questions.  Being 5 hours ahead can sometimes be a pain!

thanks
Carl

Alex Vigdor wrote:

> Hi Liying,
>     You haven't  set the mount point.  The "mount" attribute of the  
> "repository" element defines the URL at which your project is  
> accessible.  Right now, you would find your new project at
>
> http://localhost:8080/mount-point/
>
> -Alex
>
> On Jul 1, 2005, at 4:56 PM, Liying Miao wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex again,
>>
>> I just reinstalled the HC, and added a project. Still the same. Did 
>> I  miss
>> something here? I thought by putting a project name and hitting 
>> enter,  I
>> could get to sacs home page, from which I can define my project. Is the
>> index.xml automatically generated? The following is the filesystem.xml:
>>
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>> <!DOCTYPE repository SYSTEM
>> "http://hypercontent.sourceforge.net/dtd/filesystems.dtd">
>> <repository mount="/mount-point/">
>> <filesystem-def name="Project repository" type="local-editioning">
>>     <argument index="0" value="repositories/project-repository/sacs/"/>
>>     <argument index="1" value="autocreate"/>
>> </filesystem-def>
>> </repository>
>>
>> Thanks so much and have a great holiday!
>> Liying
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Liying Miao [mailto:liy...@fa...]
>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:19 PM
>> To: 'Alex Vigdor'
>> Subject: RE: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> I restarted a few times, but the new project still didn't show.
>>
>> I'm sorry I can't get to filesystem.xml now because I just started  
>> build
>> process from Workflow (I was just trying things out and this build  
>> works so
>> hard and doesn't seem to get anywhere).
>> _______________________________________________________
>> History
>> 7/1/05 4:01:31 PM Processing
>> 0% complete: 0 changed, 0 deleted and 0 errors more details
>> 0 Changed:
>>
>>
>> 0 Deleted:
>> 0 Errors:
>> 7/1/05 4:01:29 PM Build
>> by you
>> Current Queues
>> /workflow-data/queues/principal/admin
>> /workflow-data/queues/build/building
>>
>> Attributes
>> builder = admin
>> href = http://localhost:8080/projects/SACS/
>> path = /projects/SACS/
>> ________________________________________________________
>>
>> And all I see now are filesystem.xml.lock and 
>> filesystem.xml.lock.rdf  file
>> under
>> C: 
>> \Hypercontent\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\bootstrap\pr 
>> oje
>> cts\SACS
>>
>> But just for my information, when do we need to build, and how long it
>> should take?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Liying
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hyp...@li...
>> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of  
>> Alex
>> Vigdor
>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:48 PM
>> To: 'Hypercontent-users'
>> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>
>> Hi Liying,
>>     There's about a 10 second lag after you add a new project before it
>>
>> becomes available at its mounted url, and one person reported that they
>> had to stop and restart the server before their new project showed up.
>> But if it's still not showing up after a server restart, you should
>> check the log for errors, and look to see if the config and
>> workflow-data directories were generated in your repository directory.
>> Double-check your filesystem.xml; your mount point should have a
>> trailing slash as well. (In general, every path that denotes a
>> directory in any HC configuration file should have a trailing slash).
>> Feel free to post your filesystem.xml to the list and I'll have a look
>> at it.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Liying Miao wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> Thanks, it was the "/" that caused error.
>>>
>>> But I still can't see this page:
>>> http://localhost:8080/sacs/?mode=interactive
>>>
>>> When I clicked SACS Test link from the project index page, it
>>> says:"The page
>>> can't be found."
>>> http://localhost:8080/projects/index.html?mode=interactive
>>>
>>>
>>> Mounted projects:
>>>
>>> SACS Test http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/Text Admin User liying
>>> /projects/SACS/filesystem.xml 2005-07-01 text/xml Admin User SACS Test
>>> /simple/
>>> /sample/
>>>
>>> Sorry for questions like these, hopefully I'll catch up soon.
>>>
>>> Liying
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: hyp...@li...
>>> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of
>>> Alex
>>> Vigdor
>>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:50 AM
>>> To: 'Hypercontent-users' users
>>> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>>
>>> Liying,
>>>     Did you try to stop and restart the server?  It sounds like it 
>>> might
>>>
>>> be related to a bug that has been fixed since the beta2 release.   
>>> Also,
>>> try adding a trailing slash to the path in your filesystem.xml if you
>>> still have problems.
>>>
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Liying Miao wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks so much Carl.
>>>>
>>>> I added a new project, chose argument to insert and set the path
>>>> repositories/project-repository/test in the index 0. I could see it's
>>>> added
>>>> and filesystem.xml is there, but when I type
>>>> http://localhost:8080/test,
>>>> says page not found. Then when I went back to projects index page
>>>> http://localhost:8080/projects, I got following error, and same error
>>>> occurs
>>>> when I even tried to edit sample project. Well, right before I got
>>>> these
>>>> errors, I did change the path from repositories/project-repository to
>>>> repositories/project-repository/test
>>>>
>>>> (here is what's in the filesystem.xml <argument index="0"/><argument
>>>> index="0" value="repositories/project-repository/test"/>)
>>>>
>>>> and change "test" from upper case to lower case letters. But that's
>>>> all I
>>>> did.
>>>>
>>>> There was an error processing your request
>>>> null
>>>>
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.FileOpener.<init>(FileOpener.java:34)
>>>> org.hypercontent.server.Session.getFileOpener(Session.java:153)
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Task.getFileOpener(Task.java:49)
>>>> org.hypercontent.server.Session.bindForm(Session.java:165)
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.stage.FormBindingStage.process(FormBi 
>>>> n
>>>> d
>>>> ingSt
>>>> age.java:60)
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:308)
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:282)
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.Project.getAsset(Project.java:542)
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.AssetRequest.getAsset(AssetRequest.java:150)
>>>> org.hypercontent.server.ContentServer.service(ContentServer.java:415)
>>>> org.hypercontent.servlet.CompositionServlet.doGet(CompositionServlet. 
>>>> j
>>>> a
>>>> va:10
>>>> 4)
>>>> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:697)
>>>> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:810)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(Appl 
>>>> i
>>>> c
>>>> ation
>>>> FilterChain.java:237)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationF 
>>>> i
>>>> l
>>>> terCh
>>>> ain.java:157)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperV 
>>>> a
>>>> l
>>>> ve.ja
>>>> va:214)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>>> e
>>>> C
>>>> ontex
>>>> t.java:104)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>>> a
>>>> :
>>>> 520)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invokeInternal(Standard 
>>>> C
>>>> o
>>>> ntext
>>>> Valve.java:198)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextV 
>>>> a
>>>> l
>>>> ve.ja
>>>> va:152)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>>> e
>>>> C
>>>> ontex
>>>> t.java:104)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>>> a
>>>> :
>>>> 520)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.j 
>>>> a
>>>> v
>>>> a:137
>>>> )
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>>> e
>>>> C
>>>> ontex
>>>> t.java:104)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.j 
>>>> a
>>>> v
>>>> a:117
>>>> )
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>>> e
>>>> C
>>>> ontex
>>>> t.java:102)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>>> a
>>>> :
>>>> 520)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineVal 
>>>> v
>>>> e
>>>> .java
>>>> :109)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>>> e
>>>> C
>>>> ontex
>>>> t.java:104)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>>> a
>>>> :
>>>> 520)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:929)
>>>> org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:
>>>> 160)
>>>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java 
>>>> :
>>>> 793)
>>>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.proce 
>>>> s
>>>> s
>>>> Conne
>>>> ction(Http11Protocol.java:702)
>>>> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java 
>>>> :
>>>> 571)
>>>> org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadP 
>>>> o
>>>> o
>>>> l.jav
>>>> a:644)
>>>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: hyp...@li...
>>>> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of
>>>> Carl
>>>> Barrow
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:50 AM
>>>> To: 'Hypercontent-users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lillian
>>>>
>>>> I'm still evaluating HC2.0 but I've been live with HC 1.4 here for
>>>> some
>>>> time. I'll do my best to answer your questions. Alex might want to  
>>>> add
>>>> to what I've written later on, but hopefully this will help.
>>>>
>>>> Answers embedded below
>>>>
>>>> Many Thanks
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>> Liying Miao wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Experts,
>>>>>
>>>>> We are trying HC2.0 now to implement a test version of our
>>>>> university's website. We are still at the stage of understanding  
>>>>> more
>>>>> of HC by playing with the sample project, modifying content. I know
>>>>> we
>>>>> can add items under News directory, but when we can't do certain
>>>>> things like adding a root menu item or changing the navigation to be
>>>>> a
>>>>> drop down list, we are stuck.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read the Hypercontent 1.4 Manual, and thanks, that was helpful in
>>>>> understanding the building blocks. However, I still don't know where
>>>>> to start. Here are the questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. In order to meet our needs, do we modify the definitions in the
>>>>> sample project, or do we need a brand new project built?
>>>>>
>>>>  From my experience you should always start a new project from
>>>> scratch.
>>>> Spend some time planning out the structure of your site, how your
>>>> template and navigation will work and getting your dtds correct from
>>>> the
>>>> start and this will make live much easier in the future.
>>>>
>>>>> 2. If we need to build project from scratch, then,
>>>>>
>>>>> . Do we create a test-repository folder under
>>>>> C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2 (same directory
>>>>> where sample-build and sample-repository exist) and leave webapp
>>>>> folder alone?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, you'll need to create the directory for the repository. You  
>>>> don't
>>>> need to do anything with the webapp directory.
>>>>
>>>>> . Do we first create Project Definition, filesystem, under
>>>>>
>>>> C:
>>>> \hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\boots 
>>>> t
>>>> r
>>>> ap\
>>>> config
>>>>
>>>>> and projects? How do we define it if we don't have user.xml,
>>>>> index.xml, index.xsl, projet.xsl, etc created yet?
>>>>>
>>>> If you login to http://localhost:8080/projects/ as admin.
>>>> Add a new project by typing a name in the box and press enter.
>>>> Set the mount point, /newproject/ ( will be accessible at
>>>> http://localhost:8080/newproject)
>>>> Set the repository path, repositories/project-repository/newproject
>>>> login to your new site and you'll see the following directories
>>>> config/
>>>> workflow/
>>>> You will see nothing else since it's not defined in the project
>>>> definition at this point.
>>>> In config you will see project-definition.xml where you can now build
>>>> up
>>>> your project. Adding your XML doctypes, build, publish paths etc...
>>>> You can set up permissions in permissions.xml although thats not
>>>> something I've done since HC1.4 used the uPortal group/permissions
>>>> manager.
>>>>
>>>>> . What source can we borrow for the new project, what need to be
>>>>> modified and recompiled?
>>>>>
>>>> I'm not too sure what you meant by that, can you clarify
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so much for helping me get started. slowly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lillian Miao
>>>>>
>>>>> ERP/IT
>>>>> Florida A&M University
>>>>> (850) 412-7999
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> ************************************
>>>>
>>>> Carl Barrow
>>>> Web Developer
>>>> e-Services
>>>> The University of Hull
>>>> Cottingham Road
>>>> Hull
>>>> HU6 7RX
>>>> Ext. 6838
>>>>
>>>> ************************************
>>>>
>>>>
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[Hypercontent-users] HyperContent slow performance with large project

[Juris T. <sd...@la...>]

   Hello, Alex!
   Thanks for your answer to my last post. I set up HyperContent 2.0b2 succsessfully. We have large project for University of Latvia http://www.lu.lv. In my opinion it is rather complicated. This project works with HyperConten2 very slow. I have to wait for some time for page display when navigating directoties and previewing the result of transformation of xml files, saving, processing changes. Trying on different OS and server versions gave same results. In earlier posts I found that performance is related to number of includes and XSL structure. Could you take a look at it? I made a copy the part of the project and put it on server http://portaldv.lanet.lv/rss/cms_project/lu_v4.zip

Best wishes,
Juris Treibahs
University Of Latvia

Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions

[Carl B. <C.P...@hu...>]

Hi

Yes, thats all the problem is there.  Sorry I wasn't around to help out 
with the other questions.  Being 5 hours ahead can sometimes be a pain!

thanks
Carl

Alex Vigdor wrote:

> Hi Liying,
>     You haven't  set the mount point.  The "mount" attribute of the  
> "repository" element defines the URL at which your project is  
> accessible.  Right now, you would find your new project at
>
> http://localhost:8080/mount-point/
>
> -Alex
>
> On Jul 1, 2005, at 4:56 PM, Liying Miao wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex again,
>>
>> I just reinstalled the HC, and added a project. Still the same. Did 
>> I  miss
>> something here? I thought by putting a project name and hitting 
>> enter,  I
>> could get to sacs home page, from which I can define my project. Is the
>> index.xml automatically generated? The following is the filesystem.xml:
>>
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>> <!DOCTYPE repository SYSTEM
>> "http://hypercontent.sourceforge.net/dtd/filesystems.dtd">
>> <repository mount="/mount-point/">
>> <filesystem-def name="Project repository" type="local-editioning">
>>     <argument index="0" value="repositories/project-repository/sacs/"/>
>>     <argument index="1" value="autocreate"/>
>> </filesystem-def>
>> </repository>
>>
>> Thanks so much and have a great holiday!
>> Liying
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Liying Miao [mailto:liy...@fa...]
>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:19 PM
>> To: 'Alex Vigdor'
>> Subject: RE: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> I restarted a few times, but the new project still didn't show.
>>
>> I'm sorry I can't get to filesystem.xml now because I just started  
>> build
>> process from Workflow (I was just trying things out and this build  
>> works so
>> hard and doesn't seem to get anywhere).
>> _______________________________________________________
>> History
>> 7/1/05 4:01:31 PM Processing
>> 0% complete: 0 changed, 0 deleted and 0 errors more details
>> 0 Changed:
>>
>>
>> 0 Deleted:
>> 0 Errors:
>> 7/1/05 4:01:29 PM Build
>> by you
>> Current Queues
>> /workflow-data/queues/principal/admin
>> /workflow-data/queues/build/building
>>
>> Attributes
>> builder = admin
>> href = http://localhost:8080/projects/SACS/
>> path = /projects/SACS/
>> ________________________________________________________
>>
>> And all I see now are filesystem.xml.lock and 
>> filesystem.xml.lock.rdf  file
>> under
>> C: 
>> \Hypercontent\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\bootstrap\pr 
>> oje
>> cts\SACS
>>
>> But just for my information, when do we need to build, and how long it
>> should take?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Liying
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hyp...@li...
>> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of  
>> Alex
>> Vigdor
>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:48 PM
>> To: 'Hypercontent-users'
>> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>
>> Hi Liying,
>>     There's about a 10 second lag after you add a new project before it
>>
>> becomes available at its mounted url, and one person reported that they
>> had to stop and restart the server before their new project showed up.
>> But if it's still not showing up after a server restart, you should
>> check the log for errors, and look to see if the config and
>> workflow-data directories were generated in your repository directory.
>> Double-check your filesystem.xml; your mount point should have a
>> trailing slash as well. (In general, every path that denotes a
>> directory in any HC configuration file should have a trailing slash).
>> Feel free to post your filesystem.xml to the list and I'll have a look
>> at it.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Liying Miao wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> Thanks, it was the "/" that caused error.
>>>
>>> But I still can't see this page:
>>> http://localhost:8080/sacs/?mode=interactive
>>>
>>> When I clicked SACS Test link from the project index page, it
>>> says:"The page
>>> can't be found."
>>> http://localhost:8080/projects/index.html?mode=interactive
>>>
>>>
>>> Mounted projects:
>>>
>>> SACS Test http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/Text Admin User liying
>>> /projects/SACS/filesystem.xml 2005-07-01 text/xml Admin User SACS Test
>>> /simple/
>>> /sample/
>>>
>>> Sorry for questions like these, hopefully I'll catch up soon.
>>>
>>> Liying
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: hyp...@li...
>>> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of
>>> Alex
>>> Vigdor
>>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:50 AM
>>> To: 'Hypercontent-users' users
>>> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>>
>>> Liying,
>>>     Did you try to stop and restart the server?  It sounds like it 
>>> might
>>>
>>> be related to a bug that has been fixed since the beta2 release.   
>>> Also,
>>> try adding a trailing slash to the path in your filesystem.xml if you
>>> still have problems.
>>>
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Liying Miao wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks so much Carl.
>>>>
>>>> I added a new project, chose argument to insert and set the path
>>>> repositories/project-repository/test in the index 0. I could see it's
>>>> added
>>>> and filesystem.xml is there, but when I type
>>>> http://localhost:8080/test,
>>>> says page not found. Then when I went back to projects index page
>>>> http://localhost:8080/projects, I got following error, and same error
>>>> occurs
>>>> when I even tried to edit sample project. Well, right before I got
>>>> these
>>>> errors, I did change the path from repositories/project-repository to
>>>> repositories/project-repository/test
>>>>
>>>> (here is what's in the filesystem.xml <argument index="0"/><argument
>>>> index="0" value="repositories/project-repository/test"/>)
>>>>
>>>> and change "test" from upper case to lower case letters. But that's
>>>> all I
>>>> did.
>>>>
>>>> There was an error processing your request
>>>> null
>>>>
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.FileOpener.<init>(FileOpener.java:34)
>>>> org.hypercontent.server.Session.getFileOpener(Session.java:153)
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Task.getFileOpener(Task.java:49)
>>>> org.hypercontent.server.Session.bindForm(Session.java:165)
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.stage.FormBindingStage.process(FormBi 
>>>> n
>>>> d
>>>> ingSt
>>>> age.java:60)
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:308)
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:282)
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.Project.getAsset(Project.java:542)
>>>> org.hypercontent.project.AssetRequest.getAsset(AssetRequest.java:150)
>>>> org.hypercontent.server.ContentServer.service(ContentServer.java:415)
>>>> org.hypercontent.servlet.CompositionServlet.doGet(CompositionServlet. 
>>>> j
>>>> a
>>>> va:10
>>>> 4)
>>>> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:697)
>>>> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:810)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(Appl 
>>>> i
>>>> c
>>>> ation
>>>> FilterChain.java:237)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationF 
>>>> i
>>>> l
>>>> terCh
>>>> ain.java:157)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperV 
>>>> a
>>>> l
>>>> ve.ja
>>>> va:214)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>>> e
>>>> C
>>>> ontex
>>>> t.java:104)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>>> a
>>>> :
>>>> 520)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invokeInternal(Standard 
>>>> C
>>>> o
>>>> ntext
>>>> Valve.java:198)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextV 
>>>> a
>>>> l
>>>> ve.ja
>>>> va:152)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>>> e
>>>> C
>>>> ontex
>>>> t.java:104)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>>> a
>>>> :
>>>> 520)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.j 
>>>> a
>>>> v
>>>> a:137
>>>> )
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>>> e
>>>> C
>>>> ontex
>>>> t.java:104)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.j 
>>>> a
>>>> v
>>>> a:117
>>>> )
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>>> e
>>>> C
>>>> ontex
>>>> t.java:102)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>>> a
>>>> :
>>>> 520)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineVal 
>>>> v
>>>> e
>>>> .java
>>>> :109)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>>> e
>>>> C
>>>> ontex
>>>> t.java:104)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>>> a
>>>> :
>>>> 520)
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:929)
>>>> org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:
>>>> 160)
>>>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java 
>>>> :
>>>> 793)
>>>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.proce 
>>>> s
>>>> s
>>>> Conne
>>>> ction(Http11Protocol.java:702)
>>>> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java 
>>>> :
>>>> 571)
>>>> org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadP 
>>>> o
>>>> o
>>>> l.jav
>>>> a:644)
>>>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: hyp...@li...
>>>> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of
>>>> Carl
>>>> Barrow
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:50 AM
>>>> To: 'Hypercontent-users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lillian
>>>>
>>>> I'm still evaluating HC2.0 but I've been live with HC 1.4 here for
>>>> some
>>>> time. I'll do my best to answer your questions. Alex might want to  
>>>> add
>>>> to what I've written later on, but hopefully this will help.
>>>>
>>>> Answers embedded below
>>>>
>>>> Many Thanks
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>> Liying Miao wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Experts,
>>>>>
>>>>> We are trying HC2.0 now to implement a test version of our
>>>>> university's website. We are still at the stage of understanding  
>>>>> more
>>>>> of HC by playing with the sample project, modifying content. I know
>>>>> we
>>>>> can add items under News directory, but when we can't do certain
>>>>> things like adding a root menu item or changing the navigation to be
>>>>> a
>>>>> drop down list, we are stuck.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read the Hypercontent 1.4 Manual, and thanks, that was helpful in
>>>>> understanding the building blocks. However, I still don't know where
>>>>> to start. Here are the questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. In order to meet our needs, do we modify the definitions in the
>>>>> sample project, or do we need a brand new project built?
>>>>>
>>>>  From my experience you should always start a new project from
>>>> scratch.
>>>> Spend some time planning out the structure of your site, how your
>>>> template and navigation will work and getting your dtds correct from
>>>> the
>>>> start and this will make live much easier in the future.
>>>>
>>>>> 2. If we need to build project from scratch, then,
>>>>>
>>>>> . Do we create a test-repository folder under
>>>>> C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2 (same directory
>>>>> where sample-build and sample-repository exist) and leave webapp
>>>>> folder alone?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, you'll need to create the directory for the repository. You  
>>>> don't
>>>> need to do anything with the webapp directory.
>>>>
>>>>> . Do we first create Project Definition, filesystem, under
>>>>>
>>>> C:
>>>> \hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\boots 
>>>> t
>>>> r
>>>> ap\
>>>> config
>>>>
>>>>> and projects? How do we define it if we don't have user.xml,
>>>>> index.xml, index.xsl, projet.xsl, etc created yet?
>>>>>
>>>> If you login to http://localhost:8080/projects/ as admin.
>>>> Add a new project by typing a name in the box and press enter.
>>>> Set the mount point, /newproject/ ( will be accessible at
>>>> http://localhost:8080/newproject)
>>>> Set the repository path, repositories/project-repository/newproject
>>>> login to your new site and you'll see the following directories
>>>> config/
>>>> workflow/
>>>> You will see nothing else since it's not defined in the project
>>>> definition at this point.
>>>> In config you will see project-definition.xml where you can now build
>>>> up
>>>> your project. Adding your XML doctypes, build, publish paths etc...
>>>> You can set up permissions in permissions.xml although thats not
>>>> something I've done since HC1.4 used the uPortal group/permissions
>>>> manager.
>>>>
>>>>> . What source can we borrow for the new project, what need to be
>>>>> modified and recompiled?
>>>>>
>>>> I'm not too sure what you meant by that, can you clarify
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so much for helping me get started. slowly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lillian Miao
>>>>>
>>>>> ERP/IT
>>>>> Florida A&M University
>>>>> (850) 412-7999
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> ************************************
>>>>
>>>> Carl Barrow
>>>> Web Developer
>>>> e-Services
>>>> The University of Hull
>>>> Cottingham Road
>>>> Hull
>>>> HU6 7RX
>>>> Ext. 6838
>>>>
>>>> ************************************
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> Strategies
>>>> from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles,
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>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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************************************

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Web Developer
e-Services
The University of Hull
Cottingham Road
Hull
HU6 7RX
Ext. 6838
 
************************************

Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

Hi Liying,
	You haven't  set the mount point.  The "mount" attribute of the  
"repository" element defines the URL at which your project is  
accessible.  Right now, you would find your new project at

http://localhost:8080/mount-point/

-Alex

On Jul 1, 2005, at 4:56 PM, Liying Miao wrote:

> Hi Alex again,
>
> I just reinstalled the HC, and added a project. Still the same. Did I  
> miss
> something here? I thought by putting a project name and hitting enter,  
> I
> could get to sacs home page, from which I can define my project. Is the
> index.xml automatically generated? The following is the filesystem.xml:
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <!DOCTYPE repository SYSTEM
> "http://hypercontent.sourceforge.net/dtd/filesystems.dtd">
> <repository mount="/mount-point/">
> <filesystem-def name="Project repository" type="local-editioning">
> 	<argument index="0" value="repositories/project-repository/sacs/"/>
> 	<argument index="1" value="autocreate"/>
> </filesystem-def>
> </repository>
>
> Thanks so much and have a great holiday!
> Liying
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liying Miao [mailto:liy...@fa...]
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:19 PM
> To: 'Alex Vigdor'
> Subject: RE: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> I restarted a few times, but the new project still didn't show.
>
> I'm sorry I can't get to filesystem.xml now because I just started  
> build
> process from Workflow (I was just trying things out and this build  
> works so
> hard and doesn't seem to get anywhere).
> _______________________________________________________
> History
> 7/1/05 4:01:31 PM Processing
> 0% complete: 0 changed, 0 deleted and 0 errors more details
> 0 Changed:
>
>
> 0 Deleted:
> 0 Errors:
> 7/1/05 4:01:29 PM Build
> by you
> Current Queues
> /workflow-data/queues/principal/admin
> /workflow-data/queues/build/building
>
> Attributes
> builder = admin
> href = http://localhost:8080/projects/SACS/
> path = /projects/SACS/
> ________________________________________________________
>
> And all I see now are filesystem.xml.lock and filesystem.xml.lock.rdf  
> file
> under
> C: 
> \Hypercontent\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\bootstrap\pr 
> oje
> cts\SACS
>
> But just for my information, when do we need to build, and how long it
> should take?
>
> Thanks,
> Liying
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hyp...@li...
> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of  
> Alex
> Vigdor
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:48 PM
> To: 'Hypercontent-users'
> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>
> Hi Liying,
> 	There's about a 10 second lag after you add a new project before it
>
> becomes available at its mounted url, and one person reported that they
> had to stop and restart the server before their new project showed up.
> But if it's still not showing up after a server restart, you should
> check the log for errors, and look to see if the config and
> workflow-data directories were generated in your repository directory.
> Double-check your filesystem.xml; your mount point should have a
> trailing slash as well. (In general, every path that denotes a
> directory in any HC configuration file should have a trailing slash).
> Feel free to post your filesystem.xml to the list and I'll have a look
> at it.
>
> Alex
>
> On Jul 1, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Liying Miao wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> Thanks, it was the "/" that caused error.
>>
>> But I still can't see this page:
>> http://localhost:8080/sacs/?mode=interactive
>>
>> When I clicked SACS Test link from the project index page, it
>> says:"The page
>> can't be found."
>> http://localhost:8080/projects/index.html?mode=interactive
>>
>>
>> Mounted projects:
>>
>> SACS Test http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/Text Admin User liying
>> /projects/SACS/filesystem.xml 2005-07-01 text/xml Admin User SACS Test
>> /simple/
>> /sample/
>>
>> Sorry for questions like these, hopefully I'll catch up soon.
>>
>> Liying
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hyp...@li...
>> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of
>> Alex
>> Vigdor
>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:50 AM
>> To: 'Hypercontent-users' users
>> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>
>> Liying,
>> 	Did you try to stop and restart the server?  It sounds like it might
>>
>> be related to a bug that has been fixed since the beta2 release.   
>> Also,
>> try adding a trailing slash to the path in your filesystem.xml if you
>> still have problems.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Liying Miao wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks so much Carl.
>>>
>>> I added a new project, chose argument to insert and set the path
>>> repositories/project-repository/test in the index 0. I could see it's
>>> added
>>> and filesystem.xml is there, but when I type
>>> http://localhost:8080/test,
>>> says page not found. Then when I went back to projects index page
>>> http://localhost:8080/projects, I got following error, and same error
>>> occurs
>>> when I even tried to edit sample project. Well, right before I got
>>> these
>>> errors, I did change the path from repositories/project-repository to
>>> repositories/project-repository/test
>>>
>>> (here is what's in the filesystem.xml <argument index="0"/><argument
>>> index="0" value="repositories/project-repository/test"/>)
>>>
>>> and change "test" from upper case to lower case letters. But that's
>>> all I
>>> did.
>>>
>>> There was an error processing your request
>>> null
>>>
>>> org.hypercontent.project.FileOpener.<init>(FileOpener.java:34)
>>> org.hypercontent.server.Session.getFileOpener(Session.java:153)
>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Task.getFileOpener(Task.java:49)
>>> org.hypercontent.server.Session.bindForm(Session.java:165)
>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.stage.FormBindingStage.process(FormBi 
>>> n
>>> d
>>> ingSt
>>> age.java:60)
>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:308)
>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:282)
>>> org.hypercontent.project.Project.getAsset(Project.java:542)
>>> org.hypercontent.project.AssetRequest.getAsset(AssetRequest.java:150)
>>> org.hypercontent.server.ContentServer.service(ContentServer.java:415)
>>> org.hypercontent.servlet.CompositionServlet.doGet(CompositionServlet. 
>>> j
>>> a
>>> va:10
>>> 4)
>>> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:697)
>>> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:810)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(Appl 
>>> i
>>> c
>>> ation
>>> FilterChain.java:237)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationF 
>>> i
>>> l
>>> terCh
>>> ain.java:157)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperV 
>>> a
>>> l
>>> ve.ja
>>> va:214)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>> e
>>> C
>>> ontex
>>> t.java:104)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>> a
>>> :
>>> 520)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invokeInternal(Standard 
>>> C
>>> o
>>> ntext
>>> Valve.java:198)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextV 
>>> a
>>> l
>>> ve.ja
>>> va:152)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>> e
>>> C
>>> ontex
>>> t.java:104)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>> a
>>> :
>>> 520)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.j 
>>> a
>>> v
>>> a:137
>>> )
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>> e
>>> C
>>> ontex
>>> t.java:104)
>>> org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.j 
>>> a
>>> v
>>> a:117
>>> )
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>> e
>>> C
>>> ontex
>>> t.java:102)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>> a
>>> :
>>> 520)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineVal 
>>> v
>>> e
>>> .java
>>> :109)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>> e
>>> C
>>> ontex
>>> t.java:104)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>> a
>>> :
>>> 520)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:929)
>>> org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:
>>> 160)
>>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java 
>>> :
>>> 793)
>>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.proce 
>>> s
>>> s
>>> Conne
>>> ction(Http11Protocol.java:702)
>>> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java 
>>> :
>>> 571)
>>> org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadP 
>>> o
>>> o
>>> l.jav
>>> a:644)
>>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: hyp...@li...
>>> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of
>>> Carl
>>> Barrow
>>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:50 AM
>>> To: 'Hypercontent-users'
>>> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>>
>>> Hi Lillian
>>>
>>> I'm still evaluating HC2.0 but I've been live with HC 1.4 here for
>>> some
>>> time. I'll do my best to answer your questions. Alex might want to  
>>> add
>>> to what I've written later on, but hopefully this will help.
>>>
>>> Answers embedded below
>>>
>>> Many Thanks
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> Liying Miao wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Experts,
>>>>
>>>> We are trying HC2.0 now to implement a test version of our
>>>> university's website. We are still at the stage of understanding  
>>>> more
>>>> of HC by playing with the sample project, modifying content. I know
>>>> we
>>>> can add items under News directory, but when we can't do certain
>>>> things like adding a root menu item or changing the navigation to be
>>>> a
>>>> drop down list, we are stuck.
>>>>
>>>> I read the Hypercontent 1.4 Manual, and thanks, that was helpful in
>>>> understanding the building blocks. However, I still don't know where
>>>> to start. Here are the questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. In order to meet our needs, do we modify the definitions in the
>>>> sample project, or do we need a brand new project built?
>>>>
>>>  From my experience you should always start a new project from
>>> scratch.
>>> Spend some time planning out the structure of your site, how your
>>> template and navigation will work and getting your dtds correct from
>>> the
>>> start and this will make live much easier in the future.
>>>
>>>> 2. If we need to build project from scratch, then,
>>>>
>>>> . Do we create a test-repository folder under
>>>> C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2 (same directory
>>>> where sample-build and sample-repository exist) and leave webapp
>>>> folder alone?
>>>>
>>> Yes, you'll need to create the directory for the repository. You  
>>> don't
>>> need to do anything with the webapp directory.
>>>
>>>> . Do we first create Project Definition, filesystem, under
>>>>
>>> C:
>>> \hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\boots 
>>> t
>>> r
>>> ap\
>>> config
>>>> and projects? How do we define it if we don't have user.xml,
>>>> index.xml, index.xsl, projet.xsl, etc created yet?
>>>>
>>> If you login to http://localhost:8080/projects/ as admin.
>>> Add a new project by typing a name in the box and press enter.
>>> Set the mount point, /newproject/ ( will be accessible at
>>> http://localhost:8080/newproject)
>>> Set the repository path, repositories/project-repository/newproject
>>> login to your new site and you'll see the following directories
>>> config/
>>> workflow/
>>> You will see nothing else since it's not defined in the project
>>> definition at this point.
>>> In config you will see project-definition.xml where you can now build
>>> up
>>> your project. Adding your XML doctypes, build, publish paths etc...
>>> You can set up permissions in permissions.xml although thats not
>>> something I've done since HC1.4 used the uPortal group/permissions
>>> manager.
>>>
>>>> . What source can we borrow for the new project, what need to be
>>>> modified and recompiled?
>>>>
>>> I'm not too sure what you meant by that, can you clarify
>>>
>>>> Thanks so much for helping me get started. slowly.
>>>>
>>>> Lillian Miao
>>>>
>>>> ERP/IT
>>>> Florida A&M University
>>>> (850) 412-7999
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> ************************************
>>>
>>> Carl Barrow
>>> Web Developer
>>> e-Services
>>> The University of Hull
>>> Cottingham Road
>>> Hull
>>> HU6 7RX
>>> Ext. 6838
>>>
>>> ************************************
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

Hi Liying,
	There is no build filesystem actually configured for the bootstrap  
project; the build script is present in the bootstrap project because  
this is where the default set of scripts are stored that all new  
projects inherit, but the bootstrap project does not itself represent a  
web site you would want to externalize (although technically you  
could).  Thus you have turned up a bug by doing what new users do best,  
by performing an unanticipated activity!  I suspect your build attempt  
has corrupted your filesystem.xml, because the system tried to  
overwrite the file with a copy of itself when it couldn't find a  
dedicated build filesystem.  I will try to get some safeguards in there  
for the next beta, but now you know, don't try and build the bootstrap  
project!  You'll probably need to recreate your filesystem.xml to  
recover.

	Building is the process of rendering a snapshot of your project web  
site to a flat filesystem; this is referred to as "staging" in some  
other systems.  The premise is that you will build your web site, and  
review it before publishing, which is the act of copying the built  
version of the site to its final, public destination (usually a  
filesystem which is then served by Apache or another dedicated web  
server).  You never have to build during development of a project  
(though you certainly can); its only purpose is to get your content  
into a static form in which it can be served by another web server.  
Until you're ready to push the site out to a dedicated web server, you  
can continue using the built-in web server.

	Also, it is completely safe to start a build, and then do other things  
in the system (this is new in 2.0); the build is spooled off and  
handled in the background, and you can return later to check its  
progress, or even logout and log back in later to check on it.  Just to  
give a sense of perspective, our biggest sites, ranging from 1000-2000  
pages, will take anywhere from 30 seconds to 5 minutes to build,  
depending on a number of factors including the volume of includes being  
processed, the complexity of the XSL transformations, the number of  
changes since the last build and of course the overall server load.   
The sample project included with HC2 generally builds in a minute or  
less on recent hardware, most of which is dedicated to generating the  
PDF of the manual (100+ pages).

To build the sample project, you need to be on a screen under its  
mountpoint (e.g.  
http://localhost:8080/sample/index.html?mode=interactive).  "Build"  
instructs the system to build only the current file or directory;  
"Build All" is used to build the entire project, and is actually the  
more useful of the two options since it will render all the files that  
are dependent on changes you have made.

Good luck, and thanks for finding that bug!

- Alex


On Jul 1, 2005, at 4:19 PM, Liying Miao wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> I restarted a few times, but the new project still didn't show.
>
> I'm sorry I can't get to filesystem.xml now because I just started  
> build
> process from Workflow (I was just trying things out and this build  
> works so
> hard and doesn't seem to get anywhere).
> _______________________________________________________
> History
> 7/1/05 4:01:31 PM Processing
> 0% complete: 0 changed, 0 deleted and 0 errors more details
> 0 Changed:
>
>
> 0 Deleted:
> 0 Errors:
> 7/1/05 4:01:29 PM Build
> by you
> Current Queues
> /workflow-data/queues/principal/admin
> /workflow-data/queues/build/building
>
> Attributes
> builder = admin
> href = http://localhost:8080/projects/SACS/
> path = /projects/SACS/
> ________________________________________________________
>
> And all I see now are filesystem.xml.lock and filesystem.xml.lock.rdf  
> file
> under
> C: 
> \Hypercontent\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\bootstrap\pr 
> oje
> cts\SACS
>
> But just for my information, when do we need to build, and how long it
> should take?
>
> Thanks,
> Liying
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hyp...@li...
> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of  
> Alex
> Vigdor
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:48 PM
> To: 'Hypercontent-users'
> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>
> Hi Liying,
> 	There's about a 10 second lag after you add a new project before it
>
> becomes available at its mounted url, and one person reported that they
> had to stop and restart the server before their new project showed up.
> But if it's still not showing up after a server restart, you should
> check the log for errors, and look to see if the config and
> workflow-data directories were generated in your repository directory.
> Double-check your filesystem.xml; your mount point should have a
> trailing slash as well. (In general, every path that denotes a
> directory in any HC configuration file should have a trailing slash).
> Feel free to post your filesystem.xml to the list and I'll have a look
> at it.
>
> Alex
>
> On Jul 1, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Liying Miao wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> Thanks, it was the "/" that caused error.
>>
>> But I still can't see this page:
>> http://localhost:8080/sacs/?mode=interactive
>>
>> When I clicked SACS Test link from the project index page, it
>> says:"The page
>> can't be found."
>> http://localhost:8080/projects/index.html?mode=interactive
>>
>>
>> Mounted projects:
>>
>> SACS Test http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/Text Admin User liying
>> /projects/SACS/filesystem.xml 2005-07-01 text/xml Admin User SACS Test
>> /simple/
>> /sample/
>>
>> Sorry for questions like these, hopefully I'll catch up soon.
>>
>> Liying
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hyp...@li...
>> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of
>> Alex
>> Vigdor
>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:50 AM
>> To: 'Hypercontent-users' users
>> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>
>> Liying,
>> 	Did you try to stop and restart the server?  It sounds like it might
>>
>> be related to a bug that has been fixed since the beta2 release.   
>> Also,
>> try adding a trailing slash to the path in your filesystem.xml if you
>> still have problems.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Liying Miao wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks so much Carl.
>>>
>>> I added a new project, chose argument to insert and set the path
>>> repositories/project-repository/test in the index 0. I could see it's
>>> added
>>> and filesystem.xml is there, but when I type
>>> http://localhost:8080/test,
>>> says page not found. Then when I went back to projects index page
>>> http://localhost:8080/projects, I got following error, and same error
>>> occurs
>>> when I even tried to edit sample project. Well, right before I got
>>> these
>>> errors, I did change the path from repositories/project-repository to
>>> repositories/project-repository/test
>>>
>>> (here is what's in the filesystem.xml <argument index="0"/><argument
>>> index="0" value="repositories/project-repository/test"/>)
>>>
>>> and change "test" from upper case to lower case letters. But that's
>>> all I
>>> did.
>>>
>>> There was an error processing your request
>>> null
>>>
>>> org.hypercontent.project.FileOpener.<init>(FileOpener.java:34)
>>> org.hypercontent.server.Session.getFileOpener(Session.java:153)
>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Task.getFileOpener(Task.java:49)
>>> org.hypercontent.server.Session.bindForm(Session.java:165)
>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.stage.FormBindingStage.process(FormBi 
>>> n
>>> d
>>> ingSt
>>> age.java:60)
>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:308)
>>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:282)
>>> org.hypercontent.project.Project.getAsset(Project.java:542)
>>> org.hypercontent.project.AssetRequest.getAsset(AssetRequest.java:150)
>>> org.hypercontent.server.ContentServer.service(ContentServer.java:415)
>>> org.hypercontent.servlet.CompositionServlet.doGet(CompositionServlet. 
>>> j
>>> a
>>> va:10
>>> 4)
>>> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:697)
>>> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:810)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(Appl 
>>> i
>>> c
>>> ation
>>> FilterChain.java:237)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationF 
>>> i
>>> l
>>> terCh
>>> ain.java:157)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperV 
>>> a
>>> l
>>> ve.ja
>>> va:214)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>> e
>>> C
>>> ontex
>>> t.java:104)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>> a
>>> :
>>> 520)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invokeInternal(Standard 
>>> C
>>> o
>>> ntext
>>> Valve.java:198)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextV 
>>> a
>>> l
>>> ve.ja
>>> va:152)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>> e
>>> C
>>> ontex
>>> t.java:104)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>> a
>>> :
>>> 520)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.j 
>>> a
>>> v
>>> a:137
>>> )
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>> e
>>> C
>>> ontex
>>> t.java:104)
>>> org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.j 
>>> a
>>> v
>>> a:117
>>> )
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>> e
>>> C
>>> ontex
>>> t.java:102)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>> a
>>> :
>>> 520)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineVal 
>>> v
>>> e
>>> .java
>>> :109)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValv 
>>> e
>>> C
>>> ontex
>>> t.java:104)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.jav 
>>> a
>>> :
>>> 520)
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:929)
>>> org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:
>>> 160)
>>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java 
>>> :
>>> 793)
>>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.proce 
>>> s
>>> s
>>> Conne
>>> ction(Http11Protocol.java:702)
>>> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java 
>>> :
>>> 571)
>>> org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadP 
>>> o
>>> o
>>> l.jav
>>> a:644)
>>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: hyp...@li...
>>> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of
>>> Carl
>>> Barrow
>>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:50 AM
>>> To: 'Hypercontent-users'
>>> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>>
>>> Hi Lillian
>>>
>>> I'm still evaluating HC2.0 but I've been live with HC 1.4 here for
>>> some
>>> time. I'll do my best to answer your questions. Alex might want to  
>>> add
>>> to what I've written later on, but hopefully this will help.
>>>
>>> Answers embedded below
>>>
>>> Many Thanks
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> Liying Miao wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Experts,
>>>>
>>>> We are trying HC2.0 now to implement a test version of our
>>>> university's website. We are still at the stage of understanding  
>>>> more
>>>> of HC by playing with the sample project, modifying content. I know
>>>> we
>>>> can add items under News directory, but when we can't do certain
>>>> things like adding a root menu item or changing the navigation to be
>>>> a
>>>> drop down list, we are stuck.
>>>>
>>>> I read the Hypercontent 1.4 Manual, and thanks, that was helpful in
>>>> understanding the building blocks. However, I still don't know where
>>>> to start. Here are the questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. In order to meet our needs, do we modify the definitions in the
>>>> sample project, or do we need a brand new project built?
>>>>
>>>  From my experience you should always start a new project from
>>> scratch.
>>> Spend some time planning out the structure of your site, how your
>>> template and navigation will work and getting your dtds correct from
>>> the
>>> start and this will make live much easier in the future.
>>>
>>>> 2. If we need to build project from scratch, then,
>>>>
>>>> . Do we create a test-repository folder under
>>>> C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2 (same directory
>>>> where sample-build and sample-repository exist) and leave webapp
>>>> folder alone?
>>>>
>>> Yes, you'll need to create the directory for the repository. You  
>>> don't
>>> need to do anything with the webapp directory.
>>>
>>>> . Do we first create Project Definition, filesystem, under
>>>>
>>> C:
>>> \hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\boots 
>>> t
>>> r
>>> ap\
>>> config
>>>> and projects? How do we define it if we don't have user.xml,
>>>> index.xml, index.xsl, projet.xsl, etc created yet?
>>>>
>>> If you login to http://localhost:8080/projects/ as admin.
>>> Add a new project by typing a name in the box and press enter.
>>> Set the mount point, /newproject/ ( will be accessible at
>>> http://localhost:8080/newproject)
>>> Set the repository path, repositories/project-repository/newproject
>>> login to your new site and you'll see the following directories
>>> config/
>>> workflow/
>>> You will see nothing else since it's not defined in the project
>>> definition at this point.
>>> In config you will see project-definition.xml where you can now build
>>> up
>>> your project. Adding your XML doctypes, build, publish paths etc...
>>> You can set up permissions in permissions.xml although thats not
>>> something I've done since HC1.4 used the uPortal group/permissions
>>> manager.
>>>
>>>> . What source can we borrow for the new project, what need to be
>>>> modified and recompiled?
>>>>
>>> I'm not too sure what you meant by that, can you clarify
>>>
>>>> Thanks so much for helping me get started. slowly.
>>>>
>>>> Lillian Miao
>>>>
>>>> ERP/IT
>>>> Florida A&M University
>>>> (850) 412-7999
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> ************************************
>>>
>>> Carl Barrow
>>> Web Developer
>>> e-Services
>>> The University of Hull
>>> Cottingham Road
>>> Hull
>>> HU6 7RX
>>> Ext. 6838
>>>
>>> ************************************
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Hyp...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>
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>
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Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

Hi Liying,
	There's about a 10 second lag after you add a new project before it  
becomes available at its mounted url, and one person reported that they  
had to stop and restart the server before their new project showed up.   
But if it's still not showing up after a server restart, you should  
check the log for errors, and look to see if the config and  
workflow-data directories were generated in your repository directory.   
Double-check your filesystem.xml; your mount point should have a  
trailing slash as well. (In general, every path that denotes a  
directory in any HC configuration file should have a trailing slash).   
Feel free to post your filesystem.xml to the list and I'll have a look  
at it.

Alex

On Jul 1, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Liying Miao wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Thanks, it was the "/" that caused error.
>
> But I still can't see this page:
> http://localhost:8080/sacs/?mode=interactive
>
> When I clicked SACS Test link from the project index page, it  
> says:"The page
> can't be found."
> http://localhost:8080/projects/index.html?mode=interactive
>
>
> Mounted projects:
>
> SACS Test http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/Text Admin User liying
> /projects/SACS/filesystem.xml 2005-07-01 text/xml Admin User SACS Test
> /simple/
> /sample/
>
> Sorry for questions like these, hopefully I'll catch up soon.
>
> Liying
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hyp...@li...
> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of  
> Alex
> Vigdor
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:50 AM
> To: 'Hypercontent-users' users
> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>
> Liying,
> 	Did you try to stop and restart the server?  It sounds like it might
>
> be related to a bug that has been fixed since the beta2 release.  Also,
> try adding a trailing slash to the path in your filesystem.xml if you
> still have problems.
>
> -Alex
>
> On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Liying Miao wrote:
>
>> Thanks so much Carl.
>>
>> I added a new project, chose argument to insert and set the path
>> repositories/project-repository/test in the index 0. I could see it's
>> added
>> and filesystem.xml is there, but when I type
>> http://localhost:8080/test,
>> says page not found. Then when I went back to projects index page
>> http://localhost:8080/projects, I got following error, and same error
>> occurs
>> when I even tried to edit sample project. Well, right before I got
>> these
>> errors, I did change the path from repositories/project-repository to
>> repositories/project-repository/test
>>
>> (here is what's in the filesystem.xml <argument index="0"/><argument
>> index="0" value="repositories/project-repository/test"/>)
>>
>> and change "test" from upper case to lower case letters. But that's
>> all I
>> did.
>>
>> There was an error processing your request
>> null
>>
>> org.hypercontent.project.FileOpener.<init>(FileOpener.java:34)
>> org.hypercontent.server.Session.getFileOpener(Session.java:153)
>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Task.getFileOpener(Task.java:49)
>> org.hypercontent.server.Session.bindForm(Session.java:165)
>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.stage.FormBindingStage.process(FormBin 
>> d
>> ingSt
>> age.java:60)
>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:308)
>> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:282)
>> org.hypercontent.project.Project.getAsset(Project.java:542)
>> org.hypercontent.project.AssetRequest.getAsset(AssetRequest.java:150)
>> org.hypercontent.server.ContentServer.service(ContentServer.java:415)
>> org.hypercontent.servlet.CompositionServlet.doGet(CompositionServlet.j 
>> a
>> va:10
>> 4)
>> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:697)
>> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:810)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(Appli 
>> c
>> ation
>> FilterChain.java:237)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFi 
>> l
>> terCh
>> ain.java:157)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperVa 
>> l
>> ve.ja
>> va:214)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValve 
>> C
>> ontex
>> t.java:104)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java 
>> :
>> 520)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invokeInternal(StandardC 
>> o
>> ntext
>> Valve.java:198)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextVa 
>> l
>> ve.ja
>> va:152)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValve 
>> C
>> ontex
>> t.java:104)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java 
>> :
>> 520)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.ja 
>> v
>> a:137
>> )
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValve 
>> C
>> ontex
>> t.java:104)
>> org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.ja 
>> v
>> a:117
>> )
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValve 
>> C
>> ontex
>> t.java:102)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java 
>> :
>> 520)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValv 
>> e
>> .java
>> :109)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValve 
>> C
>> ontex
>> t.java:104)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java 
>> :
>> 520)
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:929)
>> org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java: 
>> 160)
>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:
>> 793)
>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.proces 
>> s
>> Conne
>> ction(Http11Protocol.java:702)
>> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:
>> 571)
>> org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPo 
>> o
>> l.jav
>> a:644)
>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hyp...@li...
>> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of
>> Carl
>> Barrow
>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:50 AM
>> To: 'Hypercontent-users'
>> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>>
>> Hi Lillian
>>
>> I'm still evaluating HC2.0 but I've been live with HC 1.4 here for  
>> some
>> time. I'll do my best to answer your questions. Alex might want to add
>> to what I've written later on, but hopefully this will help.
>>
>> Answers embedded below
>>
>> Many Thanks
>> Carl
>>
>> Liying Miao wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Experts,
>>>
>>> We are trying HC2.0 now to implement a test version of our
>>> university's website. We are still at the stage of understanding more
>>> of HC by playing with the sample project, modifying content. I know  
>>> we
>>> can add items under News directory, but when we can't do certain
>>> things like adding a root menu item or changing the navigation to be  
>>> a
>>> drop down list, we are stuck.
>>>
>>> I read the Hypercontent 1.4 Manual, and thanks, that was helpful in
>>> understanding the building blocks. However, I still don't know where
>>> to start. Here are the questions:
>>>
>>> 1. In order to meet our needs, do we modify the definitions in the
>>> sample project, or do we need a brand new project built?
>>>
>>  From my experience you should always start a new project from  
>> scratch.
>> Spend some time planning out the structure of your site, how your
>> template and navigation will work and getting your dtds correct from
>> the
>> start and this will make live much easier in the future.
>>
>>> 2. If we need to build project from scratch, then,
>>>
>>> . Do we create a test-repository folder under
>>> C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2 (same directory
>>> where sample-build and sample-repository exist) and leave webapp
>>> folder alone?
>>>
>> Yes, you'll need to create the directory for the repository. You don't
>> need to do anything with the webapp directory.
>>
>>> . Do we first create Project Definition, filesystem, under
>>>
>> C:
>> \hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\bootst 
>> r
>> ap\
>> config
>>> and projects? How do we define it if we don't have user.xml,
>>> index.xml, index.xsl, projet.xsl, etc created yet?
>>>
>> If you login to http://localhost:8080/projects/ as admin.
>> Add a new project by typing a name in the box and press enter.
>> Set the mount point, /newproject/ ( will be accessible at
>> http://localhost:8080/newproject)
>> Set the repository path, repositories/project-repository/newproject
>> login to your new site and you'll see the following directories
>> config/
>> workflow/
>> You will see nothing else since it's not defined in the project
>> definition at this point.
>> In config you will see project-definition.xml where you can now build
>> up
>> your project. Adding your XML doctypes, build, publish paths etc...
>> You can set up permissions in permissions.xml although thats not
>> something I've done since HC1.4 used the uPortal group/permissions
>> manager.
>>
>>> . What source can we borrow for the new project, what need to be
>>> modified and recompiled?
>>>
>> I'm not too sure what you meant by that, can you clarify
>>
>>> Thanks so much for helping me get started. slowly.
>>>
>>> Lillian Miao
>>>
>>> ERP/IT
>>> Florida A&M University
>>> (850) 412-7999
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ************************************
>>
>> Carl Barrow
>> Web Developer
>> e-Services
>> The University of Hull
>> Cottingham Road
>> Hull
>> HU6 7RX
>> Ext. 6838
>>
>> ************************************
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies
>> from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles,
>> informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to
>> speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hypercontent-users mailing list
>> Hyp...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users
>>
>>
>>
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>> from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles,
>> informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> Hyp...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users
>
>
>
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Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

Liying,
	Did you try to stop and restart the server?  It sounds like it might  
be related to a bug that has been fixed since the beta2 release.  Also,  
try adding a trailing slash to the path in your filesystem.xml if you  
still have problems.

-Alex

On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Liying Miao wrote:

> Thanks so much Carl.
>
> I added a new project, chose argument to insert and set the path
> repositories/project-repository/test in the index 0. I could see it's  
> added
> and filesystem.xml is there, but when I type  
> http://localhost:8080/test,
> says page not found. Then when I went back to projects index page
> http://localhost:8080/projects, I got following error, and same error  
> occurs
> when I even tried to edit sample project. Well, right before I got  
> these
> errors, I did change the path from repositories/project-repository to
> repositories/project-repository/test
>
> (here is what's in the filesystem.xml <argument index="0"/><argument
> index="0" value="repositories/project-repository/test"/>)
>
> and change "test" from upper case to lower case letters. But that's  
> all I
> did.
>
> There was an error processing your request
> null
>
> org.hypercontent.project.FileOpener.<init>(FileOpener.java:34)
> org.hypercontent.server.Session.getFileOpener(Session.java:153)
> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Task.getFileOpener(Task.java:49)
> org.hypercontent.server.Session.bindForm(Session.java:165)
> org.hypercontent.project.engine.stage.FormBindingStage.process(FormBind 
> ingSt
> age.java:60)
> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:308)
> org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:282)
> org.hypercontent.project.Project.getAsset(Project.java:542)
> org.hypercontent.project.AssetRequest.getAsset(AssetRequest.java:150)
> org.hypercontent.server.ContentServer.service(ContentServer.java:415)
> org.hypercontent.servlet.CompositionServlet.doGet(CompositionServlet.ja 
> va:10
> 4)
> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:697)
> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:810)
> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(Applic 
> ation
> FilterChain.java:237)
> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFil 
> terCh
> ain.java:157)
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperVal 
> ve.ja
> va:214)
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveC 
> ontex
> t.java:104)
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java: 
> 520)
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> ntext
> Valve.java:198)
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextVal 
> ve.ja
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> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveC 
> ontex
> t.java:104)
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java: 
> 520)
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.jav 
> a:137
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> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveC 
> ontex
> t.java:104)
> org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.jav 
> a:117
> )
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveC 
> ontex
> t.java:102)
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java: 
> 520)
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve 
> .java
> :109)
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveC 
> ontex
> t.java:104)
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java: 
> 520)
> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:929)
> org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:160)
> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java: 
> 793)
> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.process 
> Conne
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> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java: 
> 571)
> org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPoo 
> l.jav
> a:644)
> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hyp...@li...
> [mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of  
> Carl
> Barrow
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:50 AM
> To: 'Hypercontent-users'
> Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions
>
> Hi Lillian
>
> I'm still evaluating HC2.0 but I've been live with HC 1.4 here for some
> time. I'll do my best to answer your questions. Alex might want to add
> to what I've written later on, but hopefully this will help.
>
> Answers embedded below
>
> Many Thanks
> Carl
>
> Liying Miao wrote:
>
>> Hi Experts,
>>
>> We are trying HC2.0 now to implement a test version of our
>> university's website. We are still at the stage of understanding more
>> of HC by playing with the sample project, modifying content. I know we
>> can add items under News directory, but when we can't do certain
>> things like adding a root menu item or changing the navigation to be a
>> drop down list, we are stuck.
>>
>> I read the Hypercontent 1.4 Manual, and thanks, that was helpful in
>> understanding the building blocks. However, I still don't know where
>> to start. Here are the questions:
>>
>> 1. In order to meet our needs, do we modify the definitions in the
>> sample project, or do we need a brand new project built?
>>
>  From my experience you should always start a new project from scratch.
> Spend some time planning out the structure of your site, how your
> template and navigation will work and getting your dtds correct from  
> the
> start and this will make live much easier in the future.
>
>> 2. If we need to build project from scratch, then,
>>
>> . Do we create a test-repository folder under
>> C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2 (same directory
>> where sample-build and sample-repository exist) and leave webapp
>> folder alone?
>>
> Yes, you'll need to create the directory for the repository. You don't
> need to do anything with the webapp directory.
>
>> . Do we first create Project Definition, filesystem, under
>>
> C: 
> \hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\bootstr 
> ap\
> config
>> and projects? How do we define it if we don't have user.xml,
>> index.xml, index.xsl, projet.xsl, etc created yet?
>>
> If you login to http://localhost:8080/projects/ as admin.
> Add a new project by typing a name in the box and press enter.
> Set the mount point, /newproject/ ( will be accessible at
> http://localhost:8080/newproject)
> Set the repository path, repositories/project-repository/newproject
> login to your new site and you'll see the following directories
> config/
> workflow/
> You will see nothing else since it's not defined in the project
> definition at this point.
> In config you will see project-definition.xml where you can now build  
> up
> your project. Adding your XML doctypes, build, publish paths etc...
> You can set up permissions in permissions.xml although thats not
> something I've done since HC1.4 used the uPortal group/permissions  
> manager.
>
>> . What source can we borrow for the new project, what need to be
>> modified and recompiled?
>>
> I'm not too sure what you meant by that, can you clarify
>
>> Thanks so much for helping me get started. slowly.
>>
>> Lillian Miao
>>
>> ERP/IT
>> Florida A&M University
>> (850) 412-7999
>>
>
> -- 
> ************************************
>
> Carl Barrow
> Web Developer
> e-Services
> The University of Hull
> Cottingham Road
> Hull
> HU6 7RX
> Ext. 6838
>
> ************************************
>
>
>
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RE: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions

[Liying M. <liy...@fa...>]

Thanks so much Carl.

I added a new project, chose argument to insert and set the path
repositories/project-repository/test in the index 0. I could see it's added
and filesystem.xml is there, but when I type http://localhost:8080/test,
says page not found. Then when I went back to projects index page
http://localhost:8080/projects, I got following error, and same error occurs
when I even tried to edit sample project. Well, right before I got these
errors, I did change the path from repositories/project-repository to
repositories/project-repository/test

(here is what's in the filesystem.xml <argument index="0"/><argument
index="0" value="repositories/project-repository/test"/>)

and change "test" from upper case to lower case letters. But that's all I
did.

There was an error processing your request
null 

org.hypercontent.project.FileOpener.<init>(FileOpener.java:34)
org.hypercontent.server.Session.getFileOpener(Session.java:153)
org.hypercontent.project.engine.Task.getFileOpener(Task.java:49)
org.hypercontent.server.Session.bindForm(Session.java:165)
org.hypercontent.project.engine.stage.FormBindingStage.process(FormBindingSt
age.java:60)
org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:308)
org.hypercontent.project.engine.Pipeline.process(Pipeline.java:282)
org.hypercontent.project.Project.getAsset(Project.java:542)
org.hypercontent.project.AssetRequest.getAsset(AssetRequest.java:150)
org.hypercontent.server.ContentServer.service(ContentServer.java:415)
org.hypercontent.servlet.CompositionServlet.doGet(CompositionServlet.java:10
4)
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:697)
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:810)
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(Application
FilterChain.java:237)
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterCh
ain.java:157)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.ja
va:214)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContex
t.java:104)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:520)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invokeInternal(StandardContext
Valve.java:198)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.ja
va:152)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContex
t.java:104)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:520)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:137
)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContex
t.java:104)
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:117
)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContex
t.java:102)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:520)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java
:109)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContex
t.java:104)
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:520)
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:929)
org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:160)
org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:793)
org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.processConne
ction(Http11Protocol.java:702)
org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:571)
org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.jav
a:644)
java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)


-----Original Message-----
From: hyp...@li...
[mailto:hyp...@li...] On Behalf Of Carl
Barrow
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:50 AM
To: 'Hypercontent-users'
Subject: Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions

Hi Lillian

I'm still evaluating HC2.0 but I've been live with HC 1.4 here for some 
time. I'll do my best to answer your questions. Alex might want to add 
to what I've written later on, but hopefully this will help.

Answers embedded below

Many Thanks
Carl

Liying Miao wrote:

> Hi Experts,
>
> We are trying HC2.0 now to implement a test version of our 
> university's website. We are still at the stage of understanding more 
> of HC by playing with the sample project, modifying content. I know we 
> can add items under News directory, but when we can't do certain 
> things like adding a root menu item or changing the navigation to be a 
> drop down list, we are stuck.
>
> I read the Hypercontent 1.4 Manual, and thanks, that was helpful in 
> understanding the building blocks. However, I still don't know where 
> to start. Here are the questions:
>
> 1. In order to meet our needs, do we modify the definitions in the 
> sample project, or do we need a brand new project built?
>
 From my experience you should always start a new project from scratch. 
Spend some time planning out the structure of your site, how your 
template and navigation will work and getting your dtds correct from the 
start and this will make live much easier in the future.

> 2. If we need to build project from scratch, then,
>
> . Do we create a test-repository folder under 
> C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2 (same directory 
> where sample-build and sample-repository exist) and leave webapp 
> folder alone?
>
Yes, you'll need to create the directory for the repository. You don't 
need to do anything with the webapp directory.

> . Do we first create Project Definition, filesystem, under 
>
C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\bootstrap\
config 
> and projects? How do we define it if we don't have user.xml, 
> index.xml, index.xsl, projet.xsl, etc created yet?
>
If you login to http://localhost:8080/projects/ as admin.
Add a new project by typing a name in the box and press enter.
Set the mount point, /newproject/ ( will be accessible at 
http://localhost:8080/newproject)
Set the repository path, repositories/project-repository/newproject
login to your new site and you'll see the following directories
config/
workflow/
You will see nothing else since it's not defined in the project 
definition at this point.
In config you will see project-definition.xml where you can now build up 
your project. Adding your XML doctypes, build, publish paths etc...
You can set up permissions in permissions.xml although thats not 
something I've done since HC1.4 used the uPortal group/permissions manager.

> . What source can we borrow for the new project, what need to be 
> modified and recompiled?
>
I'm not too sure what you meant by that, can you clarify

> Thanks so much for helping me get started. slowly.
>
> Lillian Miao
>
> ERP/IT
> Florida A&M University
> (850) 412-7999
>

-- 
************************************

Carl Barrow
Web Developer
e-Services
The University of Hull
Cottingham Road
Hull
HU6 7RX
Ext. 6838
 
************************************



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Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

Hi Liying,
	I think Carl's response sums it up; unlike other content =
management =20
systems where the general use-case is shoe-horning your content into =20
one of several pre-defined structures, with HyperContent you design =20
your web site structure according to your particular requirements, and =20=

then implement it in your project definition.  This also leaves you =20
with the task of creating XSL to generate everything on every page.  =20
We're happy to share some useful templates, for example to generate =20
navigation toolbars, breadcrumb trails, and other common patterns.  =20
You'll find some discussion of these in the mailing list archives.

It's pretty straightforward to implement very generic sites; you can =20
start a site with undifferentiated sections, unlimited depth, and XHTML =20=

only content with a few simple document and resource types.

<xml-doctype path=3D"/**/index.xml" label=3D"Index Page" root=3D"html"/>

<xml-doctype path=3D"/**/*.xml" label=3D"Page" root=3D"html"/>

<resource-directory path=3D"/**/*/" label=3D"Directory"/>

<resource-directory path=3D"/**/*.jpg" label =3D"JPG image" =
publish=3D"true">
	<content type=3D"image/jpeg" />
</resource-directory>

This gives you everything you need to start entering HTML data, JPG =20
images and unlimited subdirectories; to set up output, you will of =20
course have to set up output elements and XSL documents, and probably a =20=

sitemap (not required, but very handy for doing the dirty work of =20
generating navigation).  You can refine the structure as you go by =20
adding more specific document types with custom XML grammars and/or =20
different output logic.

In terms of source, there is generally no need to change or add any =20
source code (except for the recently discussed modifications required =20=

to change allowable tags and attributes in the WYSIWYG editor . . . =20
this will be in a configuration file someday!).  You can change your =20
project definition, DTDs, groups, permissions, workflows, content and =20=

XSL on the fly through the web interface.  The main reason you might =20
want to write some custom code would be to implement some custom =20
pipeline logic, for example that might grab some data from an RDBMS and =20=

render it into XML for transformation, or into Java objects for =20
presentation with Velocity templates.

-Alex

On Jul 1, 2005, at 4:50 AM, Carl Barrow wrote:

> Hi Lillian
>
> I'm still evaluating HC2.0 but I've been live with HC 1.4 here for =20
> some time. I'll do my best to answer your questions. Alex might want =20=

> to add to what I've written later on, but hopefully this will help.
>
> Answers embedded below
>
> Many Thanks
> Carl
>
> Liying Miao wrote:
>
>> Hi Experts,
>>
>> We are trying HC2.0 now to implement a test version of our =20
>> university=92s website. We are still at the stage of understanding =
more =20
>> of HC by playing with the sample project, modifying content. I know =20=

>> we can add items under News directory, but when we can=92t do certain =
=20
>> things like adding a root menu item or changing the navigation to be =20=

>> a drop down list, we are stuck.
>>
>> I read the Hypercontent 1.4 Manual, and thanks, that was helpful in =20=

>> understanding the building blocks. However, I still don=92t know =
where =20
>> to start. Here are the questions:
>>
>> 1. In order to meet our needs, do we modify the definitions in the =20=

>> sample project, or do we need a brand new project built?
>>
> =46rom my experience you should always start a new project from =
scratch. =20
> Spend some time planning out the structure of your site, how your =20
> template and navigation will work and getting your dtds correct from =20=

> the start and this will make live much easier in the future.
>
>> 2. If we need to build project from scratch, then,
>>
>> =B7 Do we create a test-repository folder under =20
>> C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2 (same directory =20=

>> where sample-build and sample-repository exist) and leave webapp =20
>> folder alone?
>>
> Yes, you'll need to create the directory for the repository. You don't =
=20
> need to do anything with the webapp directory.
>
>> =B7 Do we first create Project Definition, filesystem, under =20
>> C:=20
>> =
\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\bootst=20=

>> rap\config and projects? How do we define it if we don=92t have =20
>> user.xml, index.xml, index.xsl, projet.xsl, etc created yet?
>>
> If you login to http://localhost:8080/projects/ as admin.
> Add a new project by typing a name in the box and press enter.
> Set the mount point, /newproject/ ( will be accessible at =20
> http://localhost:8080/newproject)
> Set the repository path, repositories/project-repository/newproject
> login to your new site and you'll see the following directories
> config/
> workflow/
> You will see nothing else since it's not defined in the project =20
> definition at this point.
> In config you will see project-definition.xml where you can now build =20=

> up your project. Adding your XML doctypes, build, publish paths etc...
> You can set up permissions in permissions.xml although thats not =20
> something I've done since HC1.4 used the uPortal group/permissions =20
> manager.
>
>> =B7 What source can we borrow for the new project, what need to be =20=

>> modified and recompiled?
>>
> I'm not too sure what you meant by that, can you clarify
>
>> Thanks so much for helping me get started=85 slowly=85
>>
>> Lillian Miao
>>
>> ERP/IT
>> Florida A&M University
>> (850) 412-7999
>>
>
> --=20
> ************************************
>
> Carl Barrow
> Web Developer
> e-Services
> The University of Hull
> Cottingham Road
> Hull
> HU6 7RX
> Ext. 6838
> ************************************
>
>
>
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ck
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Re: [Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions

[Carl B. <C.P...@hu...>]

Hi Lillian

I'm still evaluating HC2.0 but I've been live with HC 1.4 here for some 
time. I'll do my best to answer your questions. Alex might want to add 
to what I've written later on, but hopefully this will help.

Answers embedded below

Many Thanks
Carl

Liying Miao wrote:

> Hi Experts,
>
> We are trying HC2.0 now to implement a test version of our 
> university’s website. We are still at the stage of understanding more 
> of HC by playing with the sample project, modifying content. I know we 
> can add items under News directory, but when we can’t do certain 
> things like adding a root menu item or changing the navigation to be a 
> drop down list, we are stuck.
>
> I read the Hypercontent 1.4 Manual, and thanks, that was helpful in 
> understanding the building blocks. However, I still don’t know where 
> to start. Here are the questions:
>
> 1. In order to meet our needs, do we modify the definitions in the 
> sample project, or do we need a brand new project built?
>
 From my experience you should always start a new project from scratch. 
Spend some time planning out the structure of your site, how your 
template and navigation will work and getting your dtds correct from the 
start and this will make live much easier in the future.

> 2. If we need to build project from scratch, then,
>
> · Do we create a test-repository folder under 
> C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2 (same directory 
> where sample-build and sample-repository exist) and leave webapp 
> folder alone?
>
Yes, you'll need to create the directory for the repository. You don't 
need to do anything with the webapp directory.

> · Do we first create Project Definition, filesystem, under 
> C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\bootstrap\config 
> and projects? How do we define it if we don’t have user.xml, 
> index.xml, index.xsl, projet.xsl, etc created yet?
>
If you login to http://localhost:8080/projects/ as admin.
Add a new project by typing a name in the box and press enter.
Set the mount point, /newproject/ ( will be accessible at 
http://localhost:8080/newproject)
Set the repository path, repositories/project-repository/newproject
login to your new site and you'll see the following directories
config/
workflow/
You will see nothing else since it's not defined in the project 
definition at this point.
In config you will see project-definition.xml where you can now build up 
your project. Adding your XML doctypes, build, publish paths etc...
You can set up permissions in permissions.xml although thats not 
something I've done since HC1.4 used the uPortal group/permissions manager.

> · What source can we borrow for the new project, what need to be 
> modified and recompiled?
>
I'm not too sure what you meant by that, can you clarify

> Thanks so much for helping me get started… slowly…
>
> Lillian Miao
>
> ERP/IT
> Florida A&M University
> (850) 412-7999
>

-- 
************************************

Carl Barrow
Web Developer
e-Services
The University of Hull
Cottingham Road
Hull
HU6 7RX
Ext. 6838
 
************************************

[Hypercontent-users] How do I add a left navigation?

[Liying M. <liy...@fa...>]

In the sample project of HC2.0, "docs", unlike "news", doesn't have a menu
on the left. Could I add one?

Liying Miao
ERP/IT 
Florida A&M University 

[Hypercontent-users] Newbies Questions

[Liying M. <liy...@fa...>]

Hi Experts,

We are trying HC2.0 now to implement a test version of our university's
website. We are still at the stage of understanding more of HC by playing
with the sample project, modifying content. I know we can add items under
News directory, but when we can't do certain things like adding a root menu
item or changing the navigation to be a drop down list, we are stuck. 

I read the Hypercontent 1.4 Manual, and thanks, that was helpful in
understanding the building blocks. However, I still don't know where to
start. Here are the questions:

1. In order to meet our needs, do we modify the definitions in the sample
project, or do we need a brand new project built?

2. If we need to build project from scratch, then,
*	Do we create a test-repository folder under
C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2 (same directory where
sample-build and sample-repository exist) and leave webapp folder alone?
*	Do we first create Project Definition, filesystem, under
C:\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2.0b2\hypercontent2\repositories\bootstrap\
config and projects? How do we define it if we don't have user.xml,
index.xml, index.xsl, projet.xsl, etc created yet?
*	What source can we borrow for the new project, what need to be
modified and recompiled?
Thanks so much for helping me get started. slowly.

Lillian Miao
ERP/IT 
Florida A&M University 
(850) 412-7999

Re: [Hypercontent-users] HC 1.4 - Tags and attributes allowable by HTMLArea

[Alex V. <av...@co...>]

If you have HC 1.4 set up in such a way that you used the ant script to=20=

install it, you can just change the source file and run "ant deploy"=20
which will recompile, make the jar and copy it over to uPortal.  You=20
can also just run "ant jar" which will compile and create the jar, and=20=

manually copy the updated jar to your webapp.

-Alex

On Jun 30, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Carl Barrow wrote:

> Hi Mike
>
> I would have thought there should be a file called=20
> DocuemntFactory.class under WEB-INF which you should be able to=20
> replace once you've recompiled DocuemntFactory.java.   If not I guess=20=

> just put it there.
>
> Alex will be able to confirm if thats correct.....
>
> Remember that you'll need to restart your application server so pick=20=

> up the changes.
>
> Thanks
> Carl
>
> Mike B wrote:
>
>> Hi Carl,
>>
>> Thanks for the quick reply. I've found the DocumentFactory.java file
>> but it is only in the source code, not under WEB-INF. Should I just
>> make the changes and copy it there or do I need to go through the
>> process of building and deploying with ant?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On 6/30/05, Carl Barrow <C.P...@hu...> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike
>>>
>>> Yes thats possible and something that I've done here in Hull.
>>> You can control what the editor strips out and leaves in
>>> DocumentFactory.java
>>> /uPortal/webpages/WEB-INF/classes/edu/columbia/hypercontent
>>>
>>> You will see the attributes in the file :
>>> remover.acceptElement("form",new
>>> String[]{"action","enctype","method","type","target"});
>>>
>>> If you have any problems just let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> Mike B wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is it possible to change which tags and attributes are allowed and
>>>> unstripped in HTMLArea for HyperContent 1.4? I'd like to be able to
>>>> include the embed and style tag as well as the style attribute.
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Hypercontent-users] HC 1.4 - Tags and attributes allowable by HTMLArea

[Carl B. <C.P...@hu...>]

Hi Mike

I would have thought there should be a file called DocuemntFactory.class 
under WEB-INF which you should be able to replace once you've recompiled 
DocuemntFactory.java.   If not I guess just put it there.

Alex will be able to confirm if thats correct.....

Remember that you'll need to restart your application server so pick up 
the changes.

Thanks
Carl

Mike B wrote:

>Hi Carl,
>
>Thanks for the quick reply. I've found the DocumentFactory.java file
>but it is only in the source code, not under WEB-INF. Should I just
>make the changes and copy it there or do I need to go through the
>process of building and deploying with ant?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
>
>
>On 6/30/05, Carl Barrow <C.P...@hu...> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi Mike
>>
>>Yes thats possible and something that I've done here in Hull.
>>You can control what the editor strips out and leaves in
>>DocumentFactory.java
>>/uPortal/webpages/WEB-INF/classes/edu/columbia/hypercontent
>>
>>You will see the attributes in the file :
>>remover.acceptElement("form",new
>>String[]{"action","enctype","method","type","target"});
>>
>>If you have any problems just let me know.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Carl
>>
>>Mike B wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Is it possible to change which tags and attributes are allowed and
>>>unstripped in HTMLArea for HyperContent 1.4? I'd like to be able to
>>>include the embed and style tag as well as the style attribute.
>>>
>>>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------
>>>SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies
>>>      
>>>
>>>from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles,
>>    
>>
>>>informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to
>>>speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77&alloc_id492&op=click
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Hypercontent-users mailing list
>>>Hyp...@li...
>>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>--
>>************************************
>>
>>Carl Barrow
>>Web Developer
>>e-Services
>>The University of Hull
>>Cottingham Road
>>Hull
>>HU6 7RX
>>Ext. 6838
>>
>>************************************
>>
>>
>>
>>-------------------------------------------------------
>>SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies
>>from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles,
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>>    
>>

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Web Developer
e-Services
The University of Hull
Cottingham Road
Hull
HU6 7RX
Ext. 6838
 
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Re: [Hypercontent-users] HC 1.4 - Tags and attributes allowable by HTMLArea

[Carl B. <C.P...@hu...>]

Hi Mike

Yes thats possible and something that I've done here in Hull. 
You can control what the editor strips out and leaves in 
DocumentFactory.java
/uPortal/webpages/WEB-INF/classes/edu/columbia/hypercontent

You will see the attributes in the file :
remover.acceptElement("form",new 
String[]{"action","enctype","method","type","target"});

If you have any problems just let me know.

Thanks
Carl

Mike B wrote:

>Is it possible to change which tags and attributes are allowed and
>unstripped in HTMLArea for HyperContent 1.4? I'd like to be able to
>include the embed and style tag as well as the style attribute.
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies
>from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles,
>informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to
>speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77&alloc_id492&op=click
>_______________________________________________
>Hypercontent-users mailing list
>Hyp...@li...
>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users
>  
>

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************************************

Carl Barrow
Web Developer
e-Services
The University of Hull
Cottingham Road
Hull
HU6 7RX
Ext. 6838
 
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[Hypercontent-users] HC 1.4 - Tags and attributes allowable by HTMLArea

[Mike B <mbe...@gm...>]

Is it possible to change which tags and attributes are allowed and
unstripped in HTMLArea for HyperContent 1.4? I'd like to be able to
include the embed and style tag as well as the style attribute.