Re: [Hydrogen-devel] GMKit licensing issues

[Paul V. <pj...@gm...>]

This sounds great to me, Sebastian!

Because it's a great kit I have often used the Black Pearl in the past, and
I think this would be a great improvement.

Side note: The past year has been rough for me and I haven't had the space
in my life for much of this stuff, but this is improving and I'm looking
forward to wrapping a few things up and to helping out more. :)

Paul

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 4:57 PM, <ma...@sm...> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I've setup an initial repository for the new kit here:
> https://github.com/mauser/DefaultAcousticKit .
>
> As already discussed, this kit is based upon the samples of the Black
> Pearl Kit 1.0, which are GPL licensed. I've double-checked this with Glen,
> the author of the Back Pearl and Led Zep kit. I've removed all brand-names
> from the samples and the drumkit descriptions and adjusted the volume of
> the Second Ride, although it is still quite loud..
>
> The kit isn't finished yet, iirc the midi configuration isn't complete and
> it currently has some more instruments then the current GmKit. At the
> moment i'm unsure if those additional instrument should be kept or removed.
> This relates to Splash Choke, Hat-Semi Open, Hat Choke, Bell and
> Ride-Flink. For me, especially the bell and the semi-open hihat are useful.
>
> Let me hear what you think about this kit, pull requests are welcome :)
>
> Best regards,
> Sebastian
>
>
> Am 15.05.2017 19:48, schrieb ma...@sm...:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Yes, i would also prefer to create a new kit based on those samples (and
>> with other sample for GM-Kit compatibility). Not only because of the
>> re-ordering of instruments, but also to clear the brand names (Zildjian
>> etc.) from the Drumkit..
>>
>> About the size: My main concern was the size of the github repository,
>> not the size of the hydrogen installers. Maybe we should put that kit
>> into its repository as a git submodule? I'm not sure if this is too
>> complicated for the mainstream git person, i'm quite used to it so it is
>> hard to tell...
>>
>> Maybe the second snare could also demonstrate the drumkit component
>> feature.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sebastian
>>
>> Am 12.05.2017 17:01, schrieb Przemysław Sitek:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think ideal drumkit:
>>> - has to be properly licensed
>>> - has to have the same layout as GMKit
>>> - should have „nautral” sound (neither „vintage” nor „modern metal”;)
>>> - should have several velocity layers
>>> - it would be nice to have some round-robins
>>> - probably souldn’t use components
>>>
>>>
>>> Strangely, I somehow missed the „Black Pearl”, I have never hrard it.
>>> I gave it a try and it sounds really good to me. There are two minor
>>> issues, bu I think those are easy to overcome. First, it has different
>>> layout than GMKit. I think retaining layout is important, as once we
>>> stop shipping GMKit, songs created with that drumkit would be
>>> unplayable, so providing a drop-in replacement seems to be a good
>>> move. But creating new kit based on Black Pearl samples would should
>>> work. Second, it is missing some sounds - for example, GMKit has two
>>> snares „Snare Jazz” and „Snare Rock”. But maybe we could „borrow”
>>> „jazz” versions from other kit, maybe Milo's?
>>>
>>> I think twenty-something MB size is reasonable, fortunately times of
>>> 14k dial-up are long gone;) I have seen drumkit libraries of several
>>> GB in size, those are definitely „too big”.
>>>
>>> BTW. I have recently found SMDrums[1] project which provides
>>> extensively sampled drumkit (e.g snare and kick are sampled with
>>> 127[!] velocity layers). Unfortunately, its license is a bit vague
>>> (nothing beyond „free”).
>>>
>>> One last thought: maybe we should reach out to users? Maybe someone
>>> could provide good samples? I think this mailing list has little
>>> reach...
>>>
>>> Przemek
>>>
>>> 1. https://smmdrums.wordpress.com
>>>
>>
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