Re: [Hydrogen-devel] Translator wiki updated

[thijs v. s. <thi...@gm...>]

i just discovered that there is a "new_tutorial" dir in the sources under
/data (but the master docbook file is under /data/doc)
this dir contains the new screenshots, and a tutorial_en.html, but no
docbook file
the tutorial_en.html seems to be slightly different from the docbook file so
i'm guessing that the html was edited iso the docbook
normal workflow is docbook > html, not html > docbook  :-(

anyway, i have compared the old/new screenshots and the new ones are +/- OK
there are some differences like another instrument that is selected.  this
can be annoying since you cant see the note velocity for the notes of that
instrument ...
Chema, could you check the screenshots and let us know what you think ?

grtz
Thijs


2011/4/8 thijs van severen <thi...@gm...>

> i uploaded the screenshots from the tutorial on the site (the filenames are
> even identical to the filenames used in the tutorial, so i just had to save
> them and upload) this means you dont have to do anything  :-)
>
> thanks to whomever created these screenshots !
>
> grtz
> Thijs
>
>
> 2011/4/8 Chema Martin <ult...@gm...>
>
>> THANKS, Thijs!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:00 PM, thijs van severen <
>> thi...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chema
>>>
>>> you are right about pushing the release date > let's leave the tutorial
>>> content as it is now
>>>
>>> i just saw that someone has already updated the screenshots of the
>>> tutorial, but only on for the tutorial on the site (under the Documentation
>>> tab)   :-)
>>> Wolke, is this something you did?
>>>
>>> so it shouldnt be that hard to update the tutorial.docbook since the
>>> screenshots from the site can be reused (i think) > i'll check this, and if
>>> it work's i can quickly update the docbook file  :-)
>>>
>>> i'll keep you posted
>>>
>>> grtz
>>> Thijs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/4/7 Chema Martin <ult...@gm...>
>>>
>>>> Hi, Thijs,
>>>>
>>>> Well, the contents of the tutorial still feel quite current to me.  Yes,
>>>> certainly they don't cover all the features available in Hydrogen today, but
>>>> I think the tutorial is still a good introduction to pattern building in
>>>> Hydrogen.  I personally would not make it any more complex or content rich
>>>> myself.  On top of that, I have the feeling that redoing the tutorial from
>>>> scratch would take quite some time, most likely pushing its release date too
>>>> far off the already available Hydrogen 0.95, which would in turn make it
>>>> obsolete again.
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion, just a few up to date screenshots to make the tutorial
>>>> look consistent with the application are enough.  Having said so, if it gets
>>>> to that and the tutorial is significantly improved, I would have no problem
>>>> updating/redoing my translation.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:21 PM, thijs van severen <
>>>> thi...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Chema
>>>>>
>>>>> correct, the tutorial is quite outdated
>>>>> when i updated the manual i saw that too, but i didnt have time to
>>>>> update the tutorial (it needs more than just screenshot updates i'm afraid)
>>>>> i'll see if i can find some time, or if anyone feels like giving it a
>>>>> go > feel free :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> keep in mind that an update of the tutorial.po means that the
>>>>> translations need to be redone too.  are you sure that's what you want ?
>>>>>  ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> grtz
>>>>> Thijs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/4/7 Chema Martin <ult...@gm...>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I finished the translation of the ES tutorial, created the HTML
>>>>>> version and, as I was reviewing the whole thing, noticed that the
>>>>>> screenshots are terribly old.  As a Hydrogen user I think I can get an idea
>>>>>> from the screenshots and "translate" it into the current GUI, but I wonder
>>>>>> if new users will get confused instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any plans to update the "tutorial.pot" file so that it
>>>>>> incorporates new screenshots from 0.95?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the tutorial is good for release even with the old screenshots,
>>>>>> please let me know and I will send my po file for final review by other
>>>>>> translators.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:06 AM, thijs van severen <
>>>>>> thi...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Chema !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the manual and tutorial follow the same path
>>>>>>> the instructions on the wiki for the manual (should) also apply to
>>>>>>> the tutorial
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> grtz
>>>>>>> Thijs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2011/3/27 Chema Martin <ult...@gm...>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After some discussion, I decided to start with the Tutorial
>>>>>>>> translation, as it is apparently not even started for Spanish.  Looking at
>>>>>>>> the Wiki instructions, I see detail information about the manual, but not
>>>>>>>> that much about the tutorial?  Are they the same thing?  Are there
>>>>>>>> instructions somewhere else?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:31 AM, thijs van severen <
>>>>>>>> thi...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi DYP !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am assuming that you are talking about the gui ? (if not just let
>>>>>>>>> me know)
>>>>>>>>> To translate the parts of the gui that have not yet been translated
>>>>>>>>> just follow the steps that are described in the 'Gui Translations' part on
>>>>>>>>> the wiki (http://trac.assembla.com/hydrogen/wiki/i18n:index)
>>>>>>>>> If you follow these steps you will have the most recent
>>>>>>>>> hydrogen.fr.ts file on your system.  This file will already contain a lot of
>>>>>>>>> translated strings, but the strings that have no translation yet will be
>>>>>>>>> marked in Linguist.  These are the strings that need to be translated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i would also suggest to contact Olivier Humbert (or French friend
>>>>>>>>> that is surfing down-under ;-) for more info in the French translation
>>>>>>>>> (Olivier is on the mailing list)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> grtz
>>>>>>>>> Thijs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2011/3/23 Dubois Yaen Pujol <d....@fr...>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2011 15:44, thijs van severen a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> > hi all !
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > The translator wiki
>>>>>>>>>> > (http://trac.assembla.com/hydrogen/wiki/i18n:index) has been
>>>>>>>>>> updated :
>>>>>>>>>> > the part about Manual/Tutorial translating has also been
>>>>>>>>>> reviewed.
>>>>>>>>>> > Translators that want to translate manual or tutorial, go ahead
>>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > grtz
>>>>>>>>>> > Thijs
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>>>> I browsed the source and find fr translation ready made.
>>>>>>>>>> where can I find (path/to/rep) things to translate ?
>>>>>>>>>> thanks.
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