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Re: [Htmlvalidator-help] Line numbers while using wrap long lines

[[LoN]Kamikaze <LoN...@gm...>]

Marc Gueury wrote:
> It is still very good. But I would prefer that you make the same in the=

> HTML validator source code
> and send me the change.

I cannot do this until I get Tidy running on my system. I hope I won't
see the segfault of the last version that I couldn't track down.

Re: [Htmlvalidator-help] Line numbers while using wrap long lines

[[LoN]Kamikaze <LoN...@gm...>]

I have addressed the problem that line numbers interfere with copy and
paste, even when their display is turned off, by writing a function that
moves the code back into the old format.

I think this is the most flexible solution so far and the performance
impact is acceptable.

There are 2 problems left that I cannot solve. But they're acceptable,
as far as I see it:

- Marked code gets unmarked, when display is switched between numbered
and non-numbered display.

- With line wrapping on, the code can break at different places, because
of there being different amounts of space for the code, with and without
line numbers. This can force the user to scroll back to the code of
interest after switching.

[Htmlvalidator-help] New source code available.

[Marc G. <mg...@sk...>]

Hi all,

Seen it seems some of you want to make the compilation on Linux before 
me :-)
I was not expecting this. So, I have rerelease the source code of the beta.

http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/tidy_08x_source.zip

Here are the difference with last time:
- this is the version 0.83 with the install code to work too in Mozilla 
Suite 1.7
- the OpenSP code is inside the source and at the right place
- corrected the error given in the list
  - makefile with OpenSp in place of OpenSP
  - declaration of the i variable in nsOpenSP.cpp

In the C part of the extension, you will find a build_all.bat file that 
run the build
of all the C part in Windows. The same needs to be done on Linux. Then
the XPI repackaged, like explained here 
<http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/compile.html>

I think this time all is there and it should be possible to make it work 
on Linux and others OS.
The only things I am not sure:
- it could be that the XPI will need to be installed by a user who has 
right on the Firefox directory
- the line numbers in the source could be not in sync with the line...

Marc

Re: [Htmlvalidator-help] Line numbers while using wrap long lines

[[LoN]Kamikaze <LoN...@gm...>]

Here is my temporary 2nd demo. I'll need the full Firefox output to
validate it, but the algorithm really didn't need any changes. I just
hat to exchange 'code' for 'line1'.

This demo has buttons to show and hide line numbers, as well as buttons
to switch between the pre and normal display.

Re: [Htmlvalidator-help] Some 0.83 beta comments

[Spectroscope <spe...@gm...>]

| > > 1) Line numbering doesn't work properly
|
|> Are you using the wrapping in the source code ?
|
|Oh, indeed, if I disable line wrapping it works. Are these settings
|mutually exclusive?

Ok, forget this part of my mail, I finally found the other thread :-)

Re: [Htmlvalidator-help] Line numbers while using wrap long lines

[[LoN]Kamikaze <LoN...@gm...>]

Can you send me your example code in an attachment? What you gave me is
not complete.

Re: [Htmlvalidator-help] Some 0.83 beta comments

[<spe...@gm...>]

> > 1) Line numbering doesn't work properly

> Are you using the wrapping in the source code ?

Oh, indeed, if I disable line wrapping it works. Are these settings
mutually exclusive?

> > 2) The disabling of the checkmark "Enable Validation in the View
> > Source"  has no effect. Validation is always turned on and can only
> > switched off with CTRL-U.

Ah, now I see. I wasn't aware of the fact that you make a difference
between the different ways of opening the source. My fault.

> Do you think it is not intuitive ?

Yes and no :-)
Intuitive means you could guess how it works. Then I have to say:no,
not intuitive.
But on the other hand I only was used to change between keyboard
shortcut, right-click-menu and double click on the icon with no
special plan because I expected them to do the same.
Now that I understand how the new mechanism works I like it.

On a second thought why not additionally introducing a keyboard
shortcut for "view source with validation", let's say CTRL-SHIFT-U?
That way we could hit CTRL-U for a plain view and CTRL-SHIFT-U for a
validated view. For us keyboard lovers that would be a simple way to
launch the desired view. Yes, I think I'd like that.


And one small other question:
When validation in the source is turned off and I open the source, I
can see a flickering at the part of the screen where the validation
would be displayed (if it would have been turned on). It looks like
the progress bar expanded to the height of the validation area that
disappears when the source has fully loaded, so it displays longer
when the page source to display is larger.
Not a big thing, I only like to know if this is regular behaviour or
if this means that HTML Tidy validates but only doesn't show the
results. If so, doesn't this slow the display down?

Re: [Htmlvalidator-help] Line numbers while using wrap long lines

[[LoN]Kamikaze <LoN...@gm...>]

Marc Gueury wrote:
> I like your idea a lot. Just that it is not as simple as this.
> The source of the page is written in HTML in ""several"" pre tags.
> Inside the pre-tags, there are a lot of span tags with colors.
>=20

I experimented with <pre> tags, it's pretty easy to cope with that.

> You can get an idea by doing this:
> - take a page in firefox
> - look the source
> - select all
> - copy the source in the clipboard
> Open Mozilla composer or NVU
> - create a blank page
> - paste the HTML in the HTML preview
> - look the HTML source.
>=20
> It gives something like this:
>=20

I'll give your example a try.

>=20
> The problem with your approach is that
> - it does not take into account the pre and the span.
>    And I do not see how to adapt this algorithm for it. Mostly when
> there are several pre
>    tags.
> - also copy paste of the source copy the line number. What is not expec=
ted.
>=20

Yeah, but copy and paste is rather rare in this case, isn't it? You
normally work on the original source of your page (especially if it is
dynamically generated).

If you want to report problems on a page it's even useful to be able to
copy the line numbers. It's also easy to switch the numbers off on the
fly, with a little CSS.

> Whatever, the idea is bright.
>=20
> Marc
>=20

Thanks.

Re: [Htmlvalidator-help] Line numbers while using wrap long lines

[Marc G. <mg...@sk...>]

I like your idea a lot. Just that it is not as simple as this.
The source of the page is written in HTML in ""several"" pre tags.
Inside the pre-tags, there are a lot of span tags with colors.

You can get an idea by doing this:
- take a page in firefox
- look the source
- select all
- copy the source in the clipboard
Open Mozilla composer or NVU
- create a blank page
- paste the HTML in the HTML preview
- look the HTML source.

It gives something like this:

<html>
<head>
<meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1"
http-equiv=3D"content-type">
<title></title>
</head>
<body>
<pre id=3D"line1">&lt;<span class=3D"start-tag">html</span>&gt;&lt;<span
class=3D"start-tag">head</span>&gt;&lt;<span=20
class=3D"start-tag">meta</span><span
class=3D"attribute-name"> http-equiv</span>=3D<span=20
class=3D"attribute-value">"content-type" </span><span
class=3D"attribute-name">content</span>=3D<span=20
class=3D"attribute-value">"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8"</span>&gt;&lt;<spa=
n
class=3D"start-tag">title</span>&gt;Google&lt;/<span=20
class=3D"end-tag">title</span>&gt;&lt;<span
class=3D"start-tag">style</span>&gt;&lt;!--<br>body,td,a,p,.h{font-family=
:arial,sans-serif;}<br>.h{font-size:=20
20px;}<br>.q{color:#0000cc;}<br>--&gt;<br>&lt;/<span
class=3D"end-tag">style</span>&gt;<br>&lt;<span=20
class=3D"start-tag">script</span>&gt;<br>&lt;!--<br>function=20
sf(){document.f.q.focus();}<br>function rwt(el,oi,cad,ct,cd,sg){var e =3D=
=20
window.encodeURIComponent ? encodeURIComponent : escape;var=20
oi_param=3D"";var cad_param=3D"";if (oi) oi_param=3D"&amp;oi=3D"+e(oi);if=
 (cad)=20
cad_param=3D"&amp;cad=3D"+e(cad);el.href=3D"/url?sa=3Dt"+oi_param+cad_par=
am+"&amp;ct=3D"+e(ct)+"&amp;cd=3D"+e(cd)+"&amp;url=3D"+e(el.href).replace=
(/\+/g,"%2B")+"&amp;ei=3D3v1tRMGUGbS8wgGo5YWbBg"+sg;el.onmousedown=3D"";r=
eturn=20
true;}<br>// --&gt;<br>&lt;/<span
class=3D"end-tag">script</span>&gt;<br>&lt;/<span=20
class=3D"end-tag">head</span>&gt;&lt;<span

The problem with your approach is that
- it does not take into account the pre and the span.
   And I do not see how to adapt this algorithm for it. Mostly when=20
there are several pre
   tags.
- also copy paste of the source copy the line number. What is not expecte=
d.

Whatever, the idea is bright.

Marc

[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
> Marc Gueury wrote:
>  =20
>> Hi Change,
>>
>> It is designed like this. The 2 features :
>> - wrap long line
>> - line number are incompatible. If one is set the other is disabled.
>>
>> There is a good reason behind it. The source code is a HTML page.
>> The line numbers are placed in a css "frame" and the source code in hi=
s
>> own css "frame"
>>
>> There is no relation between the 2. Just that the number of lines is t=
he
>> same.
>> If the wrapping is set to true. I have no way to match the line number=
s
>> and lines in the source code.
>>
>> I tried other algorithms:
>> For ex, putting the lines number at the beginning of each line. But it
>> did not work well.
>> It was a lot too slow and was ugly with wrapping lines.
>>
>> So, in short, not possible to fix. And it is intended to work like thi=
s
>> until that a better algorithm is found.
>> Hope it helps,
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>    =20
>
> Here is my solution. I find the performance acceptable. The demo
> provides buttons to switch between nowrap and normal mode on the fly.
>  =20
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
-
>
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> <meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; ">
> <title>SELFHTML: Stylesheets / CSS-Eigenschaften / Ausrichtung und=20
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> <link rel=3D"stylesheet" type=3D"text/css" href=3D"../../src/selfhtml.c=
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> <meta name=3D"description" content=3D"Welche CSS-Eigenschaften es gibt,=
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> Horinzontalausrichtung, Vertikalausrichtung, Zeilenh=C3=B6he, Textumbru=
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> <meta name=3D"DC.Date" content=3D"2005-03-20T00:57:10+01:00">
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> <meta name=3D"DC.Language" content=3D"de">
> <meta name=3D"DC.Rights" content=3D"../../editorial/copyright.htm">
> <meta name=3D"DC.Date.created" content=3D"2001-10-27T08:00+01:00">
> <meta name=3D"SELF.Pagetype" content=3D"page">
> <link rel=3D"shortcut icon" href=3D"../../src/favicon.ico">
> <link rel=3D"author" title=3D"Impressum" href=3D"../../editorial/impres=
sum.htm">
> <link rel=3D"contents" title=3D"Inhaltsverzeichnis"=20
> href=3D"../../navigation/inhalt.htm">
> <link rel=3D"index" title=3D"Stichwortverzeichnis"=20
> href=3D"../../navigation/stichwort.htm">
> <link rel=3D"search" title=3D"Suche" href=3D"../../navigation/suche/ind=
ex.htm">
> <link rel=3D"help" title=3D"Hilfe" href=3D"../../editorial/index.htm">
> <link rel=3D"copyright" title=3D"Urheberrecht"=20
> href=3D"../../editorial/copyright.htm">
> <link rel=3D"top" title=3D"SELFHTML" href=3D"../../index.htm">
> <link rel=3D"up" title=3D"CSS-Eigenschaften" href=3D"index.htm">
> <link rel=3D"next" title=3D"Au=C3=9Fenrand und Abstand" href=3D"randabs=
tand.htm">
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> href=3D"schrift_datei.htm">
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> <link rel=3D"last" title=3D"Filter (nur Microsoft)" href=3D"filter.htm"=
>
> </head>
> <body>
>
> <table cellpadding=3D"4" cellspacing=3D"0" border=3D"0" width=3D"100%">
> <tr>
> <td colspan=3D"2" class=3D"nav"><a class=3D"an" name=3D"top"><img=20
> src=3D"../../src/refkap.gif" width=3D"16" height=3D"13" alt=3D"Teil von=
"></a>=20
> <a href=3D"../../index.htm">SELFHTML</a>/<a=20
> href=3D"../../navigation/index.htm" target=3D"_parent"=20
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"> <a=20
> href=3D"index.htm">CSS-Eigenschaften</a></td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td class=3D"doc" width=3D"110"><a href=3D"../../index.htm"><img=20
> src=3D"../../src/logo.gif" width=3D"106" height=3D"109" border=3D"0"=20
> alt=3D"SELFHTML"></a></td>
> <td class=3D"docbot" width=3D"100%"><h1 class=3D"ph1">Ausrichtung und=20
> Absatzkontrolle</h1></td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td class=3D"doctop">
> <img src=3D"../../src/dokx.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"20" vspace=3D"6"=
=20
> alt=3D"Informationsseite">
> </td>
> <td valign=3D"top" nowrap=3D"nowrap">
> <p>
> <img src=3D"../../src/down.gif" width=3D"14" height=3D"10" alt=3D"nach=20
> unten"> <a href=3D"#allgemeines">Allgemeines zu Ausrichtung und=20
> Absatzkontrolle</a><br>
> <img src=3D"../../src/down.gif" width=3D"14" height=3D"10" alt=3D"nach=20
> unten"> <a href=3D"#text_indent">text-indent</a> (Texteinr=C3=BCckung)<=
br>
> <img src=3D"../../src/down.gif" width=3D"14" height=3D"10" alt=3D"nach=20
> unten"> <a href=3D"#line_height">line-height</a> (Zeilenh=C3=B6he)<br>
> <img src=3D"../../src/down.gif" width=3D"14" height=3D"10" alt=3D"nach=20
> unten"> <a href=3D"#vertical_align">vertical-align</a> (Vertikale=20
> Ausrichtung)<br>
> <img src=3D"../../src/down.gif" width=3D"14" height=3D"10" alt=3D"nach=20
> unten"> <a href=3D"#text_align">text-align</a> (Horizontale Ausrichtung=
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> <img src=3D"../../src/down.gif" width=3D"14" height=3D"10" alt=3D"nach=20
> unten"> <a href=3D"#white_space">white-space</a> (Textumbruch)
> </p>
> </td>
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> </table>
>
>
>
> <h2><a class=3D"an" name=3D"allgemeines">Allgemeines zu Ausrichtung und=
=20
> Absatzkontrolle</a></h2>
>
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e=20
> Eigenschaften. Abs=C3=A4tze k=C3=B6nnen beispielsweise links- oder rech=
tsb=C3=BCndig=20
> ausgerichtet sein. Bei Tabellenzellen oder anderen Elemente, die eine=20
> berechnete oder definierte H=C3=B6he haben k=C3=B6nnen und mehr Platz l=
assen als=20
> der Text darin einnimmt, wird h=C3=A4ufig vertikale Ausrichtung oben,=20
> mittig oder untenb=C3=BCndig erforderlich.</p>
>
> <p>Zu den typischen Eigenschaften der Absatzformatierung geh=C3=B6ren=20
> ferner die Merkmale Einzug und Zeilenh=C3=B6he. Und schlie=C3=9Flich au=
ch noch=20
> die Angabe, wie der Flie=C3=9Ftext innerhalb des Absatzes umgebrochen=20
> werden soll: ob gar nicht, automatisch, oder so, wie er im Editor=20
> eingegeben wurde.</p>
>
>
>
> <table cellpadding=3D"4" cellspacing=3D"0" border=3D"0" width=3D"100%">
> <tr>
> <td class=3D"doc"> <a href=3D"#top"><img src=3D"../../src/up.gif" width=
=3D"14"=20
> height=3D"10" border=3D"0" alt=3D"nach oben"></a><a href=3D"#bottom"><i=
mg=20
> src=3D"../../src/down.gif" width=3D"14" height=3D"10" border=3D"0" alt=3D=
"nach=20
> unten"></a> </td>
> </tr>
> </table>
>
>
>
> <h2><img src=3D"../../src/css10.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"=
CSS=20
> 1.0"><img src=3D"../../src/netsc4.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30"=20
> alt=3D"Netscape 4.0"><img src=3D"../../src/msie3.gif" width=3D"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"MS IE 3.0"><img src=3D"../../src/op512.gif" width=3D=
"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"Opera 5.12"><img src=3D"../../src/ffox1.gif" width=
=3D"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"Mozilla Firefox 1"><img src=3D"../../src/konq33.gi=
f"=20
> width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"Konqueror 3.3"><img=20
> src=3D"../../src/saf12.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"Safari 1.=
2"> <a=20
> class=3D"an" name=3D"text_indent">text-indent (Texteinr=C3=BCckung)</a>=
</h2>
>
> <p>Sie k=C3=B6nnen f=C3=BCr einen mehrzeiligen Flie=C3=9Ftext bestimmen=
, dass die=20
> erste Zeile einger=C3=BCckt wird. Dieses Gestaltungselement ist in B=C3=
=BCchern=20
> und Zeitschriften sehr verbreitet.</p>
>
> <h3 class=3D"xmp">Beispiel:</h3>
>
> <p><img src=3D"../../src/dokf.gif" width=3D"15" height=3D"10"=20
> alt=3D"Beispiel-Seite"> <a=20
> href=3D"anzeige/text_indent.htm">Anzeigebeispiel: So sieht's aus</a></p=
>
>
> <pre>
> <html><head><title>text-indent</title>
> </head><body>
>
> <p style=3D"text-indent:1em;">Dieser Textabsatz hat eine
> Texteinr&uuml;ckung von 1em. Texteinr&uuml;ckungen dieser Art sind an
> die &Auml;sthetik von B&uuml;chern oder Zeitungen angelehnt, wo
> h&auml;ufig mit dieser Formatierung gearbeitet wird. Damit das auch
> wirklich sichtbar wird, enth&auml;lt dieser Textabsatz
> schlie&szlig;lich noch diesen &uuml;berfl&uuml;ssigen Satz, der
> sich aber hoffentlich wenigstens fl&uuml;ssig liest.</p>
>
> <!--usw.-->
> </body></html>
> </pre>
>
> <h3 class=3D"xpl">Erl=C3=A4uterung:</h3>
>
> <p>Mit <code>text-indent:</code> k=C3=B6nnen Sie eine Einr=C3=BCckung f=
=C3=BCr die=20
> erste Zeile bestimmen. Erlaubt ist eine <img src=3D"../../src/dok.gif"=20
> width=3D"15" height=3D"10" alt=3D"Seite"> <a=20
> href=3D"../formate/wertzuweisung.htm#numerische">numerische Angabe</a>.=
</p>
>
> <h3 class=3D"inf">Beachten Sie:</h3>
>
> <p>Mit einem negativen Wert f=C3=BCr <code>text-indent</code> bewirken =
Sie=20
> eine Textausr=C3=BCckung in der ersten Flie=C3=9Ftextzeile.</p>
>
>
>
> <table cellpadding=3D"4" cellspacing=3D"0" border=3D"0" width=3D"100%">
> <tr>
> <td class=3D"doc"> <a href=3D"#top"><img src=3D"../../src/up.gif" width=
=3D"14"=20
> height=3D"10" border=3D"0" alt=3D"nach oben"></a><a href=3D"#bottom"><i=
mg=20
> src=3D"../../src/down.gif" width=3D"14" height=3D"10" border=3D"0" alt=3D=
"nach=20
> unten"></a> </td>
> </tr>
> </table>
>
>
>
> <h2><img src=3D"../../src/css10.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"=
CSS=20
> 1.0"><img src=3D"../../src/netsc4.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30"=20
> alt=3D"Netscape 4.0"><img src=3D"../../src/msie3.gif" width=3D"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"MS IE 3.0"><img src=3D"../../src/op512.gif" width=3D=
"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"Opera 5.12"><img src=3D"../../src/ffox1.gif" width=
=3D"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"Mozilla Firefox 1"><img src=3D"../../src/konq33.gi=
f"=20
> width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"Konqueror 3.3"><img=20
> src=3D"../../src/saf12.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"Safari 1.=
2"> <a=20
> class=3D"an" name=3D"line_height">line-height (Zeilenh=C3=B6he)</a></h2=
>
>
> <p>Sie k=C3=B6nnen f=C3=BCr Elemente mit viel Flie=C3=9Ftext die Zeilen=
h=C3=B6he=20
> bestimmen. Diese Angabe ist vor allem in Verbindung mit einer Angabe=20
> zur <img src=3D"../../src/dok.gif" width=3D"15" height=3D"10"=20
> alt=3D"Seite"> <a href=3D"schrift.htm#font_size">Schriftgr=C3=B6=C3=9Fe=
</a>=20
> interessant.</p>
>
> <h3 class=3D"xmp">Beispiel:</h3>
>
> <p><img src=3D"../../src/dokf.gif" width=3D"15" height=3D"10"=20
> alt=3D"Beispiel-Seite"> <a=20
> href=3D"anzeige/line_height.htm">Anzeigebeispiel: So sieht's aus</a></p=
>
>
> <pre>
> <html><head><title>line-height</title>
> </head><body>
>
> <p style=3D"line-height:1.4em; font-size:1em; margin-left:20%;=20
> margin-right:20%">
> Die Zeilenh&ouml;he ist ein altbekanntes DTP-Feature zur Formatierung v=
on
> Abs&auml;tzen. Um damit richtig umzugehen, sind jedoch Kenntnisse in de=
r
> typografischen Wirkung von Text hilfreich. ... </p>
>
> </body></html>
> </pre>
>
> <h3 class=3D"xpl">Erl=C3=A4uterung:</h3>
> <p>Mit <code>line-height:</code> k=C3=B6nnen Sie die Zeilenh=C3=B6he be=
stimmen.=20
> Erlaubt ist eine <img src=3D"../../src/dok.gif" width=3D"15" height=3D"=
10"=20
> alt=3D"Seite"> <a=20
> href=3D"../formate/wertzuweisung.htm#numerische">numerische Angabe</a>.=
=20
> Auch Prozentangaben sind erlaubt. Prozentwerte beziehen sich dabei auf=20
> die Schriftgr=C3=B6=C3=9Fe des Elements, f=C3=BCr das die Zeilenh=C3=B6=
he bestimmt wird.</p>
>
> <h3 class=3D"inf">Beachten Sie:</h3>
>
> <p>Bei erzwungener Zeilenh=C3=B6he ist es m=C3=B6glich, dass ein=20
> interpretierendes Programm dieser Angabe den Vorrang einr=C3=A4umt und=20
> Elemente abschneidet, die h=C3=B6her sind, beispielsweise eine im Flie=C3=
=9Ftext=20
> referenzierte Grafik.</p>
>
>
>
> <table cellpadding=3D"4" cellspacing=3D"0" border=3D"0" width=3D"100%">
> <tr>
> <td class=3D"doc"> <a href=3D"#top"><img src=3D"../../src/up.gif" width=
=3D"14"=20
> height=3D"10" border=3D"0" alt=3D"nach oben"></a><a href=3D"#bottom"><i=
mg=20
> src=3D"../../src/down.gif" width=3D"14" height=3D"10" border=3D"0" alt=3D=
"nach=20
> unten"></a> </td>
> </tr>
> </table>
>
>
>
> <h2><img src=3D"../../src/css10.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"=
CSS=20
> 1.0"><img src=3D"../../src/netsc4.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30"=20
> alt=3D"Netscape 4.0"><img src=3D"../../src/msie3.gif" width=3D"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"MS IE 3.0"><img src=3D"../../src/op512.gif" width=3D=
"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"Opera 5.12"><img src=3D"../../src/ffox1.gif" width=
=3D"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"Mozilla Firefox 1"><img src=3D"../../src/konq33.gi=
f"=20
> width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"Konqueror 3.3"><img=20
> src=3D"../../src/saf12.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"Safari 1.=
2"> <a=20
> class=3D"an" name=3D"vertical_align">vertical-align (vertikale=20
> Ausrichtung)</a></h2>
>
> <p>Sie k=C3=B6nnen nebeneinanderstehende Elemente mit unterschiedlicher=
=20
> H=C3=B6he, zum Beispiel Tabellenzellen in einer Tabellenzeile oder=20
> Textpassagen mit unterschiedlicher Schriftgr=C3=B6=C3=9Fe innerhalb ein=
er Zeile,=20
> im Verh=C3=A4ltnis zueinander ausrichten.</p>
>
> <h3 class=3D"xmp">Beispiel:</h3>
>
> <p><img src=3D"../../src/dokf.gif" width=3D"15" height=3D"10"=20
> alt=3D"Beispiel-Seite"> <a=20
> href=3D"anzeige/vertical_align.htm">Anzeigebeispiel: So sieht's aus</a>=
</p>
>
> <pre>
> <html><head><title>vertical-align</title>
> <style type=3D"text/css">
> .oben { vertical-align:top; background-color:#CCCCCC; }
> .mittig { vertical-align:middle; background-color:#DDDDDD; }
> .unten { vertical-align:bottom; background-color:#EEEEEE; }
> </style>
> </head><body>
>
> <table border=3D"1"><tr>
> <td height=3D"200" class=3D"oben"><b>Text oben</b></td>
> <td height=3D"200" class=3D"mittig"><b>Text mittig</b></td>
> <td height=3D"200" class=3D"unten"><b>Text unten</b></td>
> </tr></table>
>
> </body></html>
> </pre>
>
> <h3 class=3D"xpl">Erl=C3=A4uterung:</h3>
>
> <p>Mit <code>vertical-align:</code> k=C3=B6nnen Sie die vertikale=20
> Ausrichtung bestimmen. Folgende Angaben sind m=C3=B6glich:</p>
>
> <p>
> <code>top</code> =3D obenb=C3=BCndig ausrichten.<br>
> <code>middle</code> =3D mittig ausrichten.<br>
> <code>bottom</code> =3D untenb=C3=BCndig ausrichten.<br>
> <code>baseline</code> =3D an der Basislinie ausrichten (oder=20
> untenb=C3=BCndig, wenn es keine Basislinie gibt).<br>
> <code>sub</code> =3D tieferstellen (ohne die Schriftgr=C3=B6=C3=9Fe zu=20
> reduzieren).<br>
> <code>super</code> =3D h=C3=B6herstellen (ohne die Schriftgr=C3=B6=C3=9F=
e zu=20
> reduzieren).<br>
> <code>text-top</code> =3D am oberen Schriftrand ausrichten.<br>
> <code>text-bottom</code> =3D am unteren Schriftrand ausrichten.<br>
> </p>
>
> <p>Bei Flie=C3=9Ftext ist auch eine prozentuale Angabe m=C3=B6glich. Di=
e=20
> Ausrichtung orientiert sich dann an der elementeigenen Zeilenh=C3=B6he.=
</p>
>
> <p>Das folgende Bild veranschaulicht das Modell der vertikalen=20
> Ausrichtung:</p>
>
> <p><img src=3D"ausrichtung.gif" width=3D"300" height=3D"150" alt=3D"ver=
tikale=20
> Ausrichtung"></p>
>
> <p>Die gelben K=C3=A4sten stellen Kindelemente des gro=C3=9Fen Kastens =
dar, die=20
> freistehenden schwarzen Texte stellen Zeicheninhalt des gro=C3=9Fen Kas=
tens=20
> dar.</p>
>
>
>
> <table cellpadding=3D"4" cellspacing=3D"0" border=3D"0" width=3D"100%">
> <tr>
> <td class=3D"doc"> <a href=3D"#top"><img src=3D"../../src/up.gif" width=
=3D"14"=20
> height=3D"10" border=3D"0" alt=3D"nach oben"></a><a href=3D"#bottom"><i=
mg=20
> src=3D"../../src/down.gif" width=3D"14" height=3D"10" border=3D"0" alt=3D=
"nach=20
> unten"></a> </td>
> </tr>
> </table>
>
>
>
> <h2><img src=3D"../../src/css10.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"=
CSS=20
> 1.0"><img src=3D"../../src/netsc4.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30"=20
> alt=3D"Netscape 4.0"><img src=3D"../../src/msie3.gif" width=3D"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"MS IE 3.0"><img src=3D"../../src/op512.gif" width=3D=
"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"Opera 5.12"><img src=3D"../../src/ffox1.gif" width=
=3D"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"Mozilla Firefox 1"><img src=3D"../../src/konq33.gi=
f"=20
> width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"Konqueror 3.3"><img=20
> src=3D"../../src/saf12.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"Safari 1.=
2"> <a=20
> class=3D"an" name=3D"text_align">text-align (horizontale Ausrichtung)</=
a></h2>
>
> <p>Sie k=C3=B6nnen Textabs=C3=A4tze und in anderen Block-Elementen enth=
altenen=20
> Flie=C3=9Ftext oder Inline-Elemente ausrichten.</p>
>
> <h3 class=3D"xmp">Beispiel:</h3>
>
> <p><img src=3D"../../src/dokf.gif" width=3D"15" height=3D"10"=20
> alt=3D"Beispiel-Seite"> <a=20
> href=3D"anzeige/text_align.htm">Anzeigebeispiel: So sieht's aus</a></p>
>
> <pre>
> <html><head><title>text-align</title>
> </head><body>
>
> <p style=3D"text-align:left; margin-left:50px; margin-right:50px">Der=20
> Absatz,
> den Sie gerade lesen, wurde mit <b>text-align</b> linksb=C3=BCndig=20
> ausgerichtet.
> Ferner wurde ein Rand von 50px eingestellt, just for fun oder auch,
> damit Sie sehen, wie die einzelnen Stylesheet-Angaben zusammenspielen.<=
br>
> Noch eine Textzeile<br>
> Noch eine Textzeile</p>
>
> <!--usw.-->
> </body></html>
> </pre>
>
> <h3 class=3D"xpl">Erl=C3=A4uterung:</h3>
>
> <p>Mit <code>text-align:</code> k=C3=B6nnen Sie Textinhalte von=20
> Block-Elementen ausrichten. Folgende Angaben sind m=C3=B6glich:</p>
>
> <p>
> <code>left</code> =3D linksb=C3=BCndig ausrichten (Voreinstellung).<br>
> <code>center</code> =3D zentriert ausrichten.<br>
> <code>right</code> =3D rechtsb=C3=BCndig ausrichten.<br>
> <code>justify</code> =3D als Blocksatz ausrichten.</p>
>
> <h3 class=3D"inf">Beachten Sie:</h3>
>
> <p><code>text-align</code> bezieht sich nicht nur auf Textinhalte,=20
> sondern auf alle <b>inline</b> dargestellten Elemente (wie z.B.=20
> <code><img></code>). Der MS Internet-Explorer wendet diese Eigenschaft=20
> jedoch f=C3=A4lschlich auch auf Block-Elemente an.<br>
> Block-Elemente selbst werden =C3=BCber <img src=3D"../../src/dok.gif"=20
> width=3D"15" height=3D"10" alt=3D"Seite"> <code><a=20
> href=3D"randabstand.htm">margin</a></code> ausgerichtet, wobei gleiche=20
> Werte f=C3=BCr <code>margin-left</code> und <code>margin-right</code> e=
ine=20
> Zentrierung bewirken k=C3=B6nnen.</p>
>
> <p>Eine ehemals eingef=C3=BChrte CSS-Eigenschaft namens=20
> <code>alignment</code> ist mittlerweile aus dem CSS-Standard=20
> verschwunden. Verwenden Sie nur noch <code>text-align</code>.</p>
>
>
>
> <table cellpadding=3D"4" cellspacing=3D"0" border=3D"0" width=3D"100%">
> <tr>
> <td class=3D"doc"> <a href=3D"#top"><img src=3D"../../src/up.gif" width=
=3D"14"=20
> height=3D"10" border=3D"0" alt=3D"nach oben"></a><a href=3D"#bottom"><i=
mg=20
> src=3D"../../src/down.gif" width=3D"14" height=3D"10" border=3D"0" alt=3D=
"nach=20
> unten"></a> </td>
> </tr>
> </table>
>
>
>
> <h2><img src=3D"../../src/css20.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"=
CSS=20
> 2.0"><img src=3D"../../src/netsc6.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30"=20
> alt=3D"Netscape 6.0"><img src=3D"../../src/op512.gif" width=3D"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"Opera 5.12"><img src=3D"../../src/ffox1.gif" width=
=3D"30"=20
> height=3D"30" alt=3D"Mozilla Firefox 1"><img src=3D"../../src/konq33.gi=
f"=20
> width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"Konqueror 3.3"><img=20
> src=3D"../../src/saf12.gif" width=3D"30" height=3D"30" alt=3D"Safari 1.=
2"> <a=20
> class=3D"an" name=3D"white_space">white-space (Textumbruch)</a></h2>
>
> <p>Sie k=C3=B6nnen festlegen, wie der Zeilenumbruch innerhalb von Eleme=
nten=20
> mit Text erfolgen soll.</p>
>
> <h3 class=3D"xmp">Beispiel:</h3>
>
> <p><img src=3D"../../src/dokf.gif" width=3D"15" height=3D"10"=20
> alt=3D"Beispiel-Seite"> <a=20
> href=3D"anzeige/white_space.htm">Anzeigebeispiel: So sieht's aus</a></p=
>
>
> <pre>
> <html><head><title>white-space</title>
> <style type=3D"text/css">
> #editor { white-space:pre; }
> #langezeile { white-space:nowrap; }
> </style>
> </head><body>
>
> <p id=3D"editor">
> Der Absatz, den Sie gerade lesen,
> wurde als predefiniert definiert.
> Zeilenumbr=C3=BCche sollten dabei so interpretiert
> werden, wie sie im Editor eingegeben wurden.</p>
>
> <p id=3D"langezeile">Der Absatz, den Sie gerade lesen, darf nicht
> umgebrochen werden. Es sollte kein automatischer Zeilenumbruch=20
> erfolgen. Bei
> diesem l&auml;ngeren Text m&uuml;ssen Sie vermutlich quer scrollen, um=20
> alles zu lesen.</p>
>
> </body></html>
> </pre>
>
> <h3 class=3D"xpl">Erl=C3=A4uterung:</h3>
>
> <p>Mit <code>white-space:</code> k=C3=B6nnen Sie das Verhalten f=C3=BCr=
 den=20
> Zeilenumbruch festlegen. Folgende Angaben sind m=C3=B6glich:</p>
>
> <p>
> <code>normal</code> =3D automatischer Zeilenumbruch (wie bei allen=20
> HTML-Tags au=C3=9Fer <pre> und <nowrap>).<br>
> <code>pre</code> =3D Zeilenumbruch wie im Editor eingegeben (so wie bei=
=20
> <code><pre>...<pre></code>).<br>
> <code>nowrap</code> =3D Kein automatischer Zeilenumbruch, Umbruch=20
> m=C3=B6glich durch entsprechende HTML-Tags.<br>
> </p>
>
> <h3 class=3D"inf">Beachten Sie:</h3>
>
> <p>Diese Angabe geh=C3=B6rt zur CSS-Version 2.0. Der Internet Explorer=20
> interpretiert nur den Wert <code>nowrap</code>, nicht den Wert=20
> <code>pre</code>. Netscape 4.x interpretiert den Wert=20
> <code>pre</code>, nicht aber <code>nowrap</code>. Erst Netscape 6.x=20
> beherrscht alle Angaben.</p>
>
>
>
> <table cellpadding=3D"4" cellspacing=3D"0" border=3D"0" width=3D"100%">
> <tr><td colspan=3D"2" class=3D"doc">
>  <a href=3D"#top"><img src=3D"../../src/up.gif" width=3D"14" height=3D"=
10"=20
> border=3D"0" alt=3D"nach oben"></a>
> </td></tr>
> <tr><td class=3D"doc"><a href=3D"randabstand.htm"><img=20
> src=3D"../../src/next.gif" width=3D"10" height=3D"10" border=3D"0" hspa=
ce=3D"10"=20
> alt=3D"weiter"></a></td>
> <td width=3D"100%"><img src=3D"../../src/dok.gif" width=3D"15" height=3D=
"10"=20
> alt=3D"Seite"> <a href=3D"randabstand.htm">Au=C3=9Fenrand und Abstand</=
a>
> </td></tr>
> <tr>
> <td class=3D"doc"><a href=3D"schrift_datei.htm"><img=20
> src=3D"../../src/prev.gif" width=3D"10" height=3D"10" border=3D"0" hspa=
ce=3D"10"=20
> alt=3D"zur=C3=BCck"></a></td>
> <td><img src=3D"../../src/dok.gif" width=3D"15" height=3D"10"=20
> alt=3D"Seite"> <a href=3D"schrift_datei.htm">Schriftformatierung mit=20
> Schriftartendatei</a>
> </td>
> </tr>
> <tr><td colspan=3D"2" class=3D"doc"> </td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td colspan=3D"2" class=3D"nav"><a class=3D"an" name=3D"bottom"><img=20
> src=3D"../../src/refkap.gif" width=3D"16" height=3D"13" alt=3D"Teil von=
"></a>=20
> <a href=3D"../../index.htm">SELFHTML</a>/<a=20
> href=3D"../../navigation/index.htm" target=3D"_parent"=20
> class=3D"navh">Navigationshilfen</a> <img src=3D"../../src/refkap.gif"=20
> width=3D"16" height=3D"13" alt=3D"Teil von"> <a=20
> href=3D"../index.htm">Stylesheets (CSS)</a> <img=20
> src=3D"../../src/refkap.gif" width=3D"16" height=3D"13" alt=3D"Teil von=
"> <a=20
> href=3D"index.htm">CSS-Eigenschaften</a></td>
> </tr>
> </table>
>
> <p>=C2=A9 2005 <img src=3D"../../src/dok.gif" width=3D"15" height=3D"10=
"=20
> alt=3D"Seite"> <a href=3D"../../editorial/impressum.htm">Impressum</a><=
/p>
>
> </body>
> </html>

Re: [Htmlvalidator-help] Some 0.83 beta comments

[Marc G. <mg...@sk...>]

spe...@gm... wrote:
> Hi,
>
> some remarks regarding the 0.83 beta
>
> 1) Line numbering doesn't work properly
> When you open view-source there's no line numbering. You can enable it
> by menu but this setting is forgotten with the next source-window you
> open.
> Interestingly, the checkmark is remembered (there is a checkmarkin the
> menu) but no line numbers appear.
>
Hi,

Are you using the wrapping in the source code ?
> 2) The disabling of the checkmark "Enable Validation in the View
> Source"  has no effect. Validation is always turned on and can only
> switched off with CTRL-U.
>
The way it works is this:
- if you disable the validation in the source code.
  Pressing CTRL+U or doing View Page Source does not show the validation
  Double clicking the icon always show the validation.
 I changed this behavior due to a lot of request. The way people were 
seeing this is that
you click on the icon when the icon is not green to see the error. So 
the validation should
be on. If you just look the source, the setting is used.

Do you think it is not intuitive ?

Thanks by advance,

Marc

> 3) The enabling of the validation of the view-source should depend on
> the icon state (validation in the browser turned on / turned off):
> -- When the Icon shows enabled validation a doubleclick on the icon
> (or a regular "View source") should open the view-source with
> validation enabled.
> -- When the Icon shows disabled validation the view-source window
> should open with validation disabled.
>
> Thanks for you work.
>
>
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[Htmlvalidator-help] Some 0.83 beta comments

[<spe...@gm...>]

Hi,

some remarks regarding the 0.83 beta

1) Line numbering doesn't work properly
When you open view-source there's no line numbering. You can enable it
by menu but this setting is forgotten with the next source-window you
open.
Interestingly, the checkmark is remembered (there is a checkmarkin the
menu) but no line numbers appear.

2) The disabling of the checkmark "Enable Validation in the View
Source"  has no effect. Validation is always turned on and can only
switched off with CTRL-U.

3) The enabling of the validation of the view-source should depend on
the icon state (validation in the browser turned on / turned off):
-- When the Icon shows enabled validation a doubleclick on the icon
(or a regular "View source") should open the view-source with
validation enabled.
-- When the Icon shows disabled validation the view-source window
should open with validation disabled.

Thanks for you work.

Re: [Htmlvalidator-help] Line numbers while using wrap long lines

[[LoN]Kamikaze <LoN...@gm...>]

Marc Gueury wrote:
> Hi Change,
> 
> It is designed like this. The 2 features :
> - wrap long line
> - line number are incompatible. If one is set the other is disabled.
> 
> There is a good reason behind it. The source code is a HTML page.
> The line numbers are placed in a css "frame" and the source code in his
> own css "frame"
> 
> There is no relation between the 2. Just that the number of lines is the
> same.
> If the wrapping is set to true. I have no way to match the line numbers
> and lines in the source code.
> 
> I tried other algorithms:
> For ex, putting the lines number at the beginning of each line. But it
> did not work well.
> It was a lot too slow and was ugly with wrapping lines.
> 
> So, in short, not possible to fix. And it is intended to work like this
> until that a better algorithm is found.
> Hope it helps,
> 
> Marc
> 

Here is my solution. I find the performance acceptable. The demo
provides buttons to switch between nowrap and normal mode on the fly.

Re: [Htmlvalidator-help] Line numbers while using wrap long lines

[Marc G. <mg...@sk...>]

Hi Change,

It is designed like this. The 2 features :
- wrap long line
- line number 
are incompatible. If one is set the other is disabled.

There is a good reason behind it. The source code is a HTML page.
The line numbers are placed in a css "frame" 
and the source code in his own css "frame"

There is no relation between the 2. Just that the number of lines is the same.
If the wrapping is set to true. I have no way to match the line numbers and 
lines in the source code.

I tried other algorithms:
For ex, putting the lines number at the beginning of each line. But it did not work well.
It was a lot too slow and was ugly with wrapping lines.

So, in short, not possible to fix. And it is intended to work like this
until that a better algorithm is found. 

Hope it helps,

Marc


Hi,
 
Are you aware that no line numbers are shown while using "wrap long lines"?
Since the code is more readable and scan-able to me when I use "wrap long
lines", I'm always using this. I couldn't find the line numbers in 0.8x
until I disabled this feature. Would it be possible to have line numbers
while it is enabled in a future version of this beta?
 
Thanks,
Change.

[Htmlvalidator-help] Unix compilation

[Marc G. <mg...@sk...>]

Hi all,

I have not tried to compile that version on Linux yet. But here are the 
missing piece in short.
(I will try to do it too when I find the time)

The OpenSP directory 1.5.2 should be downloaded from the CVS of OpenJade 
and place
in mozilla/extensions/tidy/opensp. No other version since the 1.5.1 
beeing the last prod version
does not compile on Windows at all.

I think that it is not even enough and that some change need to be in it 
done to compile it too ....
I hope it is better for Linux than Windows. Then compile OpenSP... The 
result is osp152.dll (or .so)

Then compile the extension nstidy.dll (.so) (see the 
http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/compile.html )
Then repackage the extension with the 2 compiled library. It should be it.

Marc

Ps: thanks for the 2 small mistakes already. I will try to reupload soon 
a source version with the 2 fout corrected
      and the opensp code at the right place. Just that the source will 
be huge then.



[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
> The 'spvalid' target fails, because '../opensp/include/config.h' is missing.
>
>   

[Htmlvalidator-help] spvalid fails

[[LoN]Kamikaze <LoN...@gm...>]

The 'spvalid' target fails, because '../opensp/include/config.h' is missi=
ng.

[Htmlvalidator-help] nsOpenSp.cpp missing declaration

[[LoN]Kamikaze <LoN...@gm...>]

In line 220 in the for loop 'i' is missing 'int'.

[Htmlvalidator-help] nsOpenSp.cpp

[[LoN]Kamikaze <LoN...@gm...>]

On Unix systems compile fails because a file is named 'nsOpenSP.cpp'
instead of 'nsOpenSp.cpp'.

[Htmlvalidator-help] Line numbers while using wrap long lines

[Change <ch...@zo...>]

Hi,
 
Are you aware that no line numbers are shown while using "wrap long lines"?
Since the code is more readable and scan-able to me when I use "wrap long
lines", I'm always using this. I couldn't find the line numbers in 0.8x
until I disabled this feature. Would it be possible to have line numbers
while it is enabled in a future version of this beta?
 
Thanks,
Change.

[Htmlvalidator-help] OpenSP for Linux

[Fabio R. <ml...@ro...>]

Hi,

I just succeded in compiling OpenSP for Linux.
I am able to generate x86 and amd64 binaries.

Just tell me what you want :-)

Ciao,

	Fabio

[Htmlvalidator-help] Bug in HTML Validator 0.8 beta

[Fabio R. <ml...@ro...>]

Hi,

I just encountered an annoying bug in HTML Validator 0.8 for Windows.
Open the attached file in firefox: no errors / warning given.

Now select "Advanced / Validate after JavaScript..." and see the
warning. Mainly, it removes the "/>" inside the <input> line.

It does the same with "<img>", "<br>" and so on...

Any hint?

Thanks,

Fabio

[Htmlvalidator-help] Help in compiling OpenSP for Linux

[Fabio R. <fa...@ro...>]

Hi,

I have seen that the new HTML Validator 0.8.x beta is out for Windows.
I'd like to contribute in compiling the OpenSP package for Linux, since
it seems the biggest problem for having HTML Validator 0.8 on linux.

I have already downloaded the lates OpenSP source code.

How would you like it to be compiled? The "simple" shared library is ok?

Ciao,

	Fabio Rotondo

[Htmlvalidator-help] Test

[Marc G. <mg...@sk...>]

Test

[Htmlvalidator-help] Re: FF Tidy is great! How about javascript?

[Marc G. <mg...@sk...>]

Hi Bryce,

I think you are a good candidate for the 0.8x beta version I released 
today if you
are a Windows user. This version has a lot of new features but also
validation of  HTML pages after Javascript or Ajax execution.

It works not in the same way than View Rendered Source. But with the 
innerHTML
of the page what allow to find more errors.

You can download it here:

http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/preview_080.html

There are test files and explanations here:

http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/user_guide.html#AJAX

Enjoy,

Marc

Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> Marc;
>
> HTML Tidy for FireFox is very very useful -- I can't imagine debugging complex websites
> (which are built from many HTML fragments) any other way.
>
> Now, what about Javascript for the future?  With many websites there are really *two* 
> totally separate websites that need to be debugged.  First, the markup as presented to
> the browser, e.g.:
>
> <body>
>     <p>This is a test</p>
>     <script>
>     document.write('<td>Hello World!</td>');
>     </script>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
> Then, the markup after javascript functions have run, e.g.:
>
> <body>
>     <p>This is a test</p>
>     <td>Hello World!</td>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
> Is it technically feasible for HTML Tidy to validate both versions of a web page?  Often the
> really hairy stuff is built by javascript.
>
> I know of one extension that does something close:
> http://jennifermadden.com/scripts/ViewRenderedSource.html
>
>   

[Htmlvalidator-help] Re: FF Tidy is great! How about javascript?

[Marc G. <mg...@sk...>]

Hi Bryce,

I think you are a good candidate for the 0.8x beta version I released 
today if you
are a Windows user. This version has a lot of new features but also
validation of  HTML pages after Javascript or Ajax execution.

It works not in the same way than View Rendered Source. But with the 
innerHTML
of the page what allow to find more errors.

You can download it here:

http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/preview_080.html

There are test files and explanations here:

http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/user_guide.html#AJAX

Enjoy,

Marc

Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> Marc;
>
> HTML Tidy for FireFox is very very useful -- I can't imagine debugging complex websites
> (which are built from many HTML fragments) any other way.
>
> Now, what about Javascript for the future?  With many websites there are really *two* 
> totally separate websites that need to be debugged.  First, the markup as presented to
> the browser, e.g.:
>
> <body>
>     <p>This is a test</p>
>     <script>
>     document.write('<td>Hello World!</td>');
>     </script>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
> Then, the markup after javascript functions have run, e.g.:
>
> <body>
>     <p>This is a test</p>
>     <td>Hello World!</td>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
> Is it technically feasible for HTML Tidy to validate both versions of a web page?  Often the
> really hairy stuff is built by javascript.
>
> I know of one extension that does something close:
> http://jennifermadden.com/scripts/ViewRenderedSource.html
>
>   

[Htmlvalidator-help] Re: FF Tidy is great! How about javascript?

[Marc G. <mg...@sk...>]

Hi Bryce,

I think you are a good candidate for the 0.8x beta version I released 
today if you
are a Windows user. This version has a lot of new features but also
validation of  HTML pages after Javascript or Ajax execution.

It works not in the same way than View Rendered Source. But with the 
innerHTML
of the page what allow to find more errors.

You can download it here:

http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/preview_080.html

There are test files and explanations here:

http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/user_guide.html#AJAX

Enjoy,

Marc

Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> Marc;
>
> HTML Tidy for FireFox is very very useful -- I can't imagine debugging complex websites
> (which are built from many HTML fragments) any other way.
>
> Now, what about Javascript for the future?  With many websites there are really *two* 
> totally separate websites that need to be debugged.  First, the markup as presented to
> the browser, e.g.:
>
> <body>
>     <p>This is a test</p>
>     <script>
>     document.write('<td>Hello World!</td>');
>     </script>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
> Then, the markup after javascript functions have run, e.g.:
>
> <body>
>     <p>This is a test</p>
>     <td>Hello World!</td>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
> Is it technically feasible for HTML Tidy to validate both versions of a web page?  Often the
> really hairy stuff is built by javascript.
>
> I know of one extension that does something close:
> http://jennifermadden.com/scripts/ViewRenderedSource.html
>
>