I think the project has fallen on tuff times for a variety of reasons.
The primary reason being that the original Eudora devs used tools that were subsequently abandoned, then purchased by company(s that rereleased their product charging confiscatory rates. That along with debilitating health issues
suffered by multiple Hermes developers. I'm gonna tuff it out and continue to use Eudora for as long as it works. I run it in Win10 32-bit version. I have NOT, at this point, had the myriad of Eudora issues reported daily by people at eudora-win@hades.listmoms.net. I believe that to be because Eudora prefers to run in a 32-bit environment. I have no intention of "upgrading" to win11. I am just an old user, not a programmer. However if you'd like to chat, contact me here: wstagner@yahoo.com.
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It is quite a bit more complicated than that. It was originally envisioned
that the Kickstarter/Indiegogo funding would go towards Hermes development,
with the addition of Covid stimulus cheques totalling 24,000 Canadian
dollars over two years. Unfortunately, one of the employees at the Canada
Revenue Agency acted in bad faith, and together with limited avenues for
procedural relief ("due process" in American terms), this has deprived us
of much needed funding for labour expenditures.
As a qualified barrister, I filed suit against Her Majesty's Government in
federal court, and we are on the cusp of reaching a negotiated settlement
(opposing counsel is honour-bound to take the offer to the Respondent, I'm
just waiting for confirmation).
I did not feel comfortable asking for further funding from the community
without having made a product release first (and the updated Hermes dll's
don't count---they are just a bridge). I also felt it would possibly
prejudice the case to discuss it publicly at an earlier juncture, so
discretion had to be the better part of valour. Audi, vide, et tace, si vis
vivere in pace, old chap.
I think the project has fallen on tuff times for a variety of reasons.
The primary reason being that the original Eudora devs used tools that
were subsequently abandoned, then purchased by company(s that rereleased
their product charging confiscatory rates. That along with debilitating
health issues
suffered by multiple Hermes developers. I'm gonna tuff it out and continue
to use Eudora for as long as it works. I run it in Win10 32-bit version. I
have NOT, at this point, had the myriad of Eudora issues reported daily by
people at eudora-win@hades.listmoms.net. I believe that to be because
Eudora prefers to run in a 32-bit environment. I have no intention of
"upgrading" to win11. I am just an old user, not a programmer. However if
you'd like to chat, contact me here: wstagner@yahoo.com.
I'd be willing to bet $ that almost every Eudora/Hermes problem people have reported could be resolved by running it in Win10 32-bit. I still run AmiPro a 16-bit word processor that won't run at all in a 64-bit environment because the module(s required are not included in win64. Running win10-32 is EZ if you run it in a Vmware Virtual machine using their FREE workstation player product.
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Walt, I run it on Win7 x64 with ABSOLUTELY no issues except:
UTF-8 garbage.
The HTML viewer.
Are you saying you have no issues with these two?
I've always felt that the project should have been to cure these two issues and SSL (which I fixed with Stunnel). To do a wholesale update of Eudora was always misguided to me.
Last edit: Arthur-Boston 2022-01-20
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I've never used the HTML viewer.
by UTF8 issues do you mean odd characters displaying in Eudora from other email programs like Yahoo? If that's what you mean, then YES. It's annoying but not a dealbreaker for me.
If that's not the UTF8 issue, please describe.
I've used Eudora since 1996 and I will continue to use it for as long as possible.
Last edit: Walt Stagner 2022-01-21
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Yes, those are common UTF (aka "Unicode") issues. Another one is when
accented characters don't display properly. If you write only in English
and possibly Latin or Dutch, this isn't a deal breaker, but Frenchmen or
Germans (and Swedes in particular) might have a bigger problem with this.
In any case, the HTML viewer is a big priority as soon as Hermes Mail
development resumes in a more meaningful way. Fixing the HTML viewer such
that Hermes links to MS Edge instead of Internet Exploder should fix
Unicode semi-automagically.
I've never used the HTML viewer.
by UTF8 issues do you mean odd characters displaying in Eudora from other
email programs like Yahoo? If that's what you mean, then YES. It's annoying
but not a dealbreaker for me.
I think it should be made more clear that the Hermes package merely changes the connection QCSSL issues that the Eudora package to 2006 was not up-to-date on. The program is still Eudora and any previous installation of Eudora continues to work (i.e. one with X-1 searching) but Hermes allows it to connect to modern email servers. Having said that one still needs application-specific POP passwords for some Email providers such as GMail and I guess AOL.
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I cannot help directly with the failure installing the
Microsoft visual C++ 2015 Redistributable package but I can give you an
alternative. Please download:
This contains a new build of QCSSL.dll that works with the Visual C++
2003 redistributables (just like the original Eudora version). So
all you need to do is drop the three DLLs in the zip into your Eudora
directory.
Pete
At 12:22 AM 1/7/2022, John Barron wrote:
I get the following error
message when trying to install the hermesmail program.
“Installation of Microsoft visual C++ 2015 Redistributable package
(X86) appears to have failed” “Do you want to continue”.
What is happening and how do I fix it? Also is this program workable on a
windows 10, 64 bit system?
Any update on the team and the work?
I think the project has fallen on tuff times for a variety of reasons.
The primary reason being that the original Eudora devs used tools that were subsequently abandoned, then purchased by company(s that rereleased their product charging confiscatory rates. That along with debilitating health issues
suffered by multiple Hermes developers. I'm gonna tuff it out and continue to use Eudora for as long as it works. I run it in Win10 32-bit version. I have NOT, at this point, had the myriad of Eudora issues reported daily by people at eudora-win@hades.listmoms.net. I believe that to be because Eudora prefers to run in a 32-bit environment. I have no intention of "upgrading" to win11. I am just an old user, not a programmer. However if you'd like to chat, contact me here: wstagner@yahoo.com.
It is quite a bit more complicated than that. It was originally envisioned
that the Kickstarter/Indiegogo funding would go towards Hermes development,
with the addition of Covid stimulus cheques totalling 24,000 Canadian
dollars over two years. Unfortunately, one of the employees at the Canada
Revenue Agency acted in bad faith, and together with limited avenues for
procedural relief ("due process" in American terms), this has deprived us
of much needed funding for labour expenditures.
As a qualified barrister, I filed suit against Her Majesty's Government in
federal court, and we are on the cusp of reaching a negotiated settlement
(opposing counsel is honour-bound to take the offer to the Respondent, I'm
just waiting for confirmation).
I did not feel comfortable asking for further funding from the community
without having made a product release first (and the updated Hermes dll's
don't count---they are just a bridge). I also felt it would possibly
prejudice the case to discuss it publicly at an earlier juncture, so
discretion had to be the better part of valour. Audi, vide, et tace, si vis
vivere in pace, old chap.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 10:25 AM Walt Stagner wstagner@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
I'd be willing to bet $ that almost every Eudora/Hermes problem people have reported could be resolved by running it in Win10 32-bit. I still run AmiPro a 16-bit word processor that won't run at all in a 64-bit environment because the module(s required are not included in win64. Running win10-32 is EZ if you run it in a Vmware Virtual machine using their FREE workstation player product.
Walt, I run it on Win7 x64 with ABSOLUTELY no issues except:
Are you saying you have no issues with these two?
I've always felt that the project should have been to cure these two issues and SSL (which I fixed with Stunnel). To do a wholesale update of Eudora was always misguided to me.
Last edit: Arthur-Boston 2022-01-20
I've never used the HTML viewer.
by UTF8 issues do you mean odd characters displaying in Eudora from other email programs like Yahoo? If that's what you mean, then YES. It's annoying but not a dealbreaker for me.
If that's not the UTF8 issue, please describe.
I've used Eudora since 1996 and I will continue to use it for as long as possible.
Last edit: Walt Stagner 2022-01-21
See my thread named below for a fix to the UTF-8 issue and more:
UTF-8 fix script ?
I just ran it on several mbx's and it works beautifully!
Yes, those are common UTF (aka "Unicode") issues. Another one is when
accented characters don't display properly. If you write only in English
and possibly Latin or Dutch, this isn't a deal breaker, but Frenchmen or
Germans (and Swedes in particular) might have a bigger problem with this.
In any case, the HTML viewer is a big priority as soon as Hermes Mail
development resumes in a more meaningful way. Fixing the HTML viewer such
that Hermes links to MS Edge instead of Internet Exploder should fix
Unicode semi-automagically.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:14 PM Walt Stagner wstagner@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
I run it on Win 10 64bit without any problems
So, you have no UTF-8 and viewer issues, correct? Is that with Eudora or Hermes?
It's been a while but I recall installing Eudora in Win10 x64 just to see if it would work. But, I didn't test it enough for these issues.
Worst case, I can run it in a VM but that can be inconvenient
I still have UTF-8 errors but then everyone does. I use Hermes, the now old Eudora just ain't upto it now.
I think it should be made more clear that the Hermes package merely changes the connection QCSSL issues that the Eudora package to 2006 was not up-to-date on. The program is still Eudora and any previous installation of Eudora continues to work (i.e. one with X-1 searching) but Hermes allows it to connect to modern email servers. Having said that one still needs application-specific POP passwords for some Email providers such as GMail and I guess AOL.
I still have UTF-8 errors but then everyone does. I use Hermes, the now old Eudora just ain't upto it now.
Trying again... hoping for a good reply, or some reply.
I get the following error message when trying to install the hermesmail program.
“Installation of Microsoft visual C++ 2015 Redistributable package (X86) appears to have failed” “Do you want to continue”.
What is happening and how do I fix it? Also is this program workable on a windows 10, 64 bit system?
<x-tab> </x-tab> https://www.maclean.com/downloads/QCSSL_Update.zip
This contains a new build of QCSSL.dll that works with the Visual C++ 2003 redistributables (just like the original Eudora version). So all you need to do is drop the three DLLs in the zip into your Eudora directory.
Pete
At 12:22 AM 1/7/2022, John Barron wrote:
Try downloading it from here and installing.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=52685
That's a known issue with the installer - if the Visual C++ is already installed it will give that error. The solution is to ignore it.