From: Michael M. B. <mmb...@gm...> - 2005-09-09 19:20:53
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Holly, I wonder if even with LiIon one might get slightly better performanc= e=20 with a supercap IF one is doing really "peaky" stuff. Maybe not WiFi, or=20 ypur ebooks, but cellphone digital or the like. I'm probably going to see i= f=20 there's any supercap payoff with my WiFi app, even though it's likely to be= =20 a wash -- it's a prototype and I'm just messing around. I'm going to be=20 using LiFeS primary cells during part of my testing. It's always a pleasure to read your posts. On 9/7/05, Holly Gates <hg...@ei...> wrote: >=20 >=20 > > Holly Gates writes: > > > The supercap extended the AAA lifetime from > > > something like 20 minutes to a few hours. > > > > This is a very interesting observation. Have you checked whether > > the pulsed current kills the batteries faster due to some weird > > electrochemical effect, or whether the current peaks simply cause > > the voltage to reach below the critical level earlier ? > > > Both. If you draw above a certain current from an alkaline battery, it > will actually reduce the amount of power you can get out of the battery. > I.e. if at 100mA you could last for 4 hours, at 400ma you will last for > less than 1 hour. The other effect, as you guessed, was that on a > current spike the battery voltage would sag significantly which would > eventually be enough to hang the gumstix. The two things combined to > give an extremely short battery life; what one would expect to be > something like 5 or 6 hours based on steady state draw and battery rated > capacity ended up being about 20 minutes. >=20 > Adding the supercap helped by smoothing the voltage dips which caused > the gumstix to hang earlier than it otherwise might. It also helped the > ultimate battery capacity by knocking down the current spikes. >=20 > > > http://www.positron.org/projects/h2/cases.shtml > > > > Wow, how many gumstixes are there on your desk ? Eight ? :-) > > > Probably something like that. When I took these pictures I was building > 10 of these ebooks for a customer, which practically killed me since > every one is meticulously handbuilt over ~20 hours! >=20 > So far I think we must have used 50-70 gumstix. Hopefully climbing in to > the 100s before long... >=20 > -Holly >=20 > > -- Pascal > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle > > Practices > > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing > > & QA > > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement *=20 > http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > > _______________________________________________ > > gumstix-users mailing list > > gum...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle=20 > Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & Q= A > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users >=20 --=20 Michael M. Butler : m m b u t l e r ( a t ) g m a i l . c o m Churchill once said, "When you're going through hell, KEEP GOING". |