From: redondos <red...@gm...> - 2006-03-29 15:22:21
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Hello, there. I am thinking about getting a Motorola ROKR E1 phone, one of those that use iTunes to transfer songs to them. I also have a 4th-gen iPod, so I have been using gtkpod for a while now.=20 Anyway, I had troubles getting gtkpod to read/write to the phone. I found a thread on the lists (http://xrl.us/kmn7) about this, but the person who asked never said if he succeeded or not, and how. I compiled gtkpod and libgpod from CVS yesterday, when I could borrow a ROKR from a friend to try it out. I had a problem gtkpod not finding the right directories, renamed them to look like a normal iPod and I still didn't achieve any success. Has anybody got any experience with these phones? I won't buy one if I can't transfer songs to it using linux so I'd like some advice, please. I am CCing this message to Joe Barnett, the creator of the previously mentioned thread. Joe, please give me some advice. Thanks in advance. --=20 redondos |
From: Jorg S. <Jor...@gm...> - 2006-03-29 15:48:58
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Hi, what does the directory structure look like? Cheers, JCS. On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 12:21:58PM -0300, redondos wrote: > Hello, there. > > I am thinking about getting a Motorola ROKR E1 phone, one of those that > use iTunes to transfer songs to them. I also have a 4th-gen iPod, so I > have been using gtkpod for a while now. > > Anyway, I had troubles getting gtkpod to read/write to the phone. I > found a thread on the lists (http://xrl.us/kmn7) about this, but the > person who asked never said if he succeeded or not, and how. > > I compiled gtkpod and libgpod from CVS yesterday, when I could borrow > a ROKR from a friend to try it out. I had a problem gtkpod not finding > the right directories, renamed them to look like a normal iPod and I > still didn't achieve any success. > > Has anybody got any experience with these phones? I won't buy one if I > can't transfer songs to it using linux so I'd like some advice, please. > > I am CCing this message to Joe Barnett, the creator of the previously > mentioned thread. Joe, please give me some advice. > > Thanks in advance. > -- > redondos |
From: redondos <red...@gm...> - 2006-03-29 16:20:38
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On Thu, Mar 30 00:48, Jorg Schuler wrote: > Hi, >=20 > what does the directory structure look like? I forgot to save a copy of that, but it sure looked very similar to the one you posted to the list (on http://xrl.us/kmos). I will have accurate information in 5 hours or so. But did you manage to get it to work? Please tell me if you have, and how, I will appreciate it. --=20 redondos |
From: Jorg S. <Jor...@gm...> - 2006-03-29 16:30:49
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On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 01:19:34PM -0300, redondos wrote: > On Thu, Mar 30 00:48, Jorg Schuler wrote: > > Hi, > > > > what does the directory structure look like? > > But did you manage to get it to work? Please tell me if you have, and > how, I will appreciate it. It worked -- but as long as I don't know if it's the same directory structure this cannot be extrapolated. One possibility is that you were linking to the wrong version of libgpod -- happens easily when having versions of libgpod installed in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib While you're at it, salvage your colleagues iTunes/ and Artwork/ folders (including contents!), count the F<nn> folders in the Music folder, and check if there is a SysInfo file somewhere (e.g. in the Device/ folder) which I would want to see as well. Cheers, JCS. |
From: Jorg S. <Jor...@gm...> - 2006-03-30 14:07:28
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> Ok, yesterday I made some tests with the phone again. I could read the music > library using CVS gtkpod/libgpod, only after renaming the 'main' dir.: > > # mv iTunes/iTunes_Control iTunes/iPod_Control If you do this, it won't work. > gtkpod let me copy some files to it, so I did. But after unmounting the phone > (reversing the name change), iTunes was able to see the new music, but wasn't > able to play it. That's exactly what I would expect. What was your mount point? For <mountpoint>/iTunes/iTunes_Control it must be set to <mountpoint>. It seems you set it to <mountpoint>/iTunes instead. > If I tried, it would display for a second the name of each song without playing > anything, and immediately skip to the next one. As if it could not read them. Sounds reasonable. Please try again with the right mountpoint and also check the ChangeLog of the libgpod version you are using: it should have the following entry: 2006-02-24 Jorg Schuler <jcsjcs at users.sourceforge.net> Alpha version of reversed-endian Artwork writing. Status: iTunesDB can be written and is accepted on mobile phones, ArtworkDB can be read and be written as well, but newly added artwork will not yet display. Cheers, JCS. |
From: redondos <red...@gm...> - 2006-03-30 16:27:43
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On Thu, Mar 30 23:06, Jorg Schuler wrote: > > Ok, yesterday I made some tests with the phone again. I could read the = music=20 > > library using CVS gtkpod/libgpod, only after renaming the 'main' dir.: > >=20 > > # mv iTunes/iTunes_Control iTunes/iPod_Control >=20 > If you do this, it won't work. So I don't need to rename anything? Great! > > gtkpod let me copy some files to it, so I did. But after unmounting the= phone=20 > > (reversing the name change), iTunes was able to see the new music, but = wasn't=20 > > able to play it. >=20 > That's exactly what I would expect. >=20 > What was your mount point? For >=20 > <mountpoint>/iTunes/iTunes_Control >=20 > it must be set to <mountpoint>. It seems you set it to <mountpoint>/iTunes > instead. If my friend copes with me and my tests, I will be able to give it another = shot=20 tonight. He doesn't care about linux support as long as it works on iTunes,= duh. My mountpoint was /mnt/usb, so I will set gtkpod to use it. without renamin= g=20 anything and see how it goes. > > If I tried, it would display for a second the name of each song without= playing=20 > > anything, and immediately skip to the next one. As if it could not read= them. >=20 > Sounds reasonable. >=20 > Please try again with the right mountpoint and also check the ChangeLog of > the libgpod version you are using: it should have the following entry: >=20 > 2006-02-24 Jorg Schuler <jcsjcs at users.sourceforge.net> >=20 > Alpha version of reversed-endian Artwork writing. Status: iTunesDB > can be written and is accepted on mobile phones, ArtworkDB can be > read and be written as well, but newly added artwork will not yet > display. Got that. Thanks a lot, Jorg. --=20 redondos |
From: redondos <red...@gm...> - 2006-04-03 20:09:03
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> Please try again with the right mountpoint and also check the ChangeLog of > the libgpod version you are using: it should have the following entry: Ok, it works perfectly, so thank you. It takes a very long time, though. The transfer speed using the phone's cable is around 110KB/s, but it takes a horribly longer amount of time to transfer songs with gtkpod. I did a `watch du -h <mountpoint>` while uploading a 1MB song to the phone. I noticed that the iTunes directory grew a lot more than 1MB, and then its size went back to normal. Total time spent for this operation: around 4 minutes. Maybe gtkpod reads and writes on the database in such way that this time has to be waited on. But maybe not. What do you say? After any upload operation, gtkpod complains about not being able to write in the Artwork directory. Permissions are OK, so I don't know. Not that I care much, anyway. Anyhow, thank you very much for the support. --=20 redondos |
From: Jorg S. <Jor...@gm...> - 2006-04-04 15:36:21
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On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 05:08:52PM -0300, redondos wrote: > > Please try again with the right mountpoint and also check the ChangeLog of > > the libgpod version you are using: it should have the following entry: > > Ok, it works perfectly, so thank you. > > It takes a very long time, though. The transfer speed using the phone's > cable is around 110KB/s, but it takes a horribly longer amount of time > to transfer songs with gtkpod. > > I did a `watch du -h <mountpoint>` while uploading a 1MB song to the > phone. I noticed that the iTunes directory grew a lot more than 1MB, and > then its size went back to normal. Total time spent for this operation: > around 4 minutes. > > Maybe gtkpod reads and writes on the database in such way that this time > has to be waited on. But maybe not. What do you say? Can you check which file is causing this? > After any upload operation, gtkpod complains about not being able to > write in the Artwork directory. Permissions are OK, so I don't know. Not > that I care much, anyway. :-/ This problem seems to have gone away with the version I published on www.gtkpod.org/stuff/gtkpod-0.99.6CVS.tar.gz www.gtkpod.org/stuff/libgpod-0.3.3.tar.gz Not sure what broke in its place, though... JCS. |
From: Joe B. <th...@gm...> - 2006-04-04 00:00:15
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I've gotten the latest CVS to detect my SLVR L7 just fine (just got around to it today: I was going on vacation for a week and didn't want to risk breaking anything before I left). Reading and writing both seem to work. The only issue i've noticed is that it takes a long time to write out the iTunesDB (gtkpod freezes after pressing sync for quite a while), and then I get a message saying something like "could not save ArtworkDB". The songs themselves, and the non-artwork metadata, appear to have transferred perfectly in my limited testing (I had a few songs on the phone, deleted a few and added some, and added some of the ones I deleted back). Unfortunately for anyone who was hoping for it, the 100 song limit seems to still be in place: I can create an iTunesDB with 101 songs, but the phone doesn't see any more than 100, even though on later mounts gtkpod can see all the songs fine. too bad :) Thanks to Jorg for getting it all working so quickly! -Joe On 3/29/06, redondos <red...@gm...> wrote: > > Hello, there. > > I am thinking about getting a Motorola ROKR E1 phone, one of those that > use iTunes to transfer songs to them. I also have a 4th-gen iPod, so I > have been using gtkpod for a while now. > > Anyway, I had troubles getting gtkpod to read/write to the phone. I > found a thread on the lists (http://xrl.us/kmn7) about this, but the > person who asked never said if he succeeded or not, and how. > > I compiled gtkpod and libgpod from CVS yesterday, when I could borrow > a ROKR from a friend to try it out. I had a problem gtkpod not finding > the right directories, renamed them to look like a normal iPod and I > still didn't achieve any success. > > Has anybody got any experience with these phones? I won't buy one if I > can't transfer songs to it using linux so I'd like some advice, please. > > I am CCing this message to Joe Barnett, the creator of the previously > mentioned thread. Joe, please give me some advice. > > Thanks in advance. > -- > redondos > > > |
From: redondos <red...@gm...> - 2006-04-04 02:54:19
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On Mon, Apr 03 16:53, Joe Barnett wrote: > I've gotten the latest CVS to detect my SLVR L7 just fine (just got around > to it today: I was going on vacation for a week and didn't want to risk > breaking anything before I left). Reading and writing both seem to work. > The only issue i've noticed is that it takes a long time to write out the > iTunesDB (gtkpod freezes after pressing sync for quite a while), and then= I > get a message saying something like "could not save ArtworkDB". The son= gs > themselves, and the non-artwork metadata, appear to have transferred > perfectly in my limited testing (I had a few songs on the phone, deleted a > few and added some, and added some of the ones I deleted back). I've had the same experience. Same ArtworkDB error, same freezing after hitting 'Sync'. Maybe someone can explain to us why it takes this long to write the database? Again, the ROKR E1's transfer speed is around 110KB/s using its USB cable. The good news is that it comes with a MicrosD (TransFlash)-to-SD converter that I could use with an SD card reader and got a data rate of ~600KB/s. So the limitation must be the phone's interface itself, not the tiny little card. It's so small that I thought maybe it was the cause of such poor transfer speeds. > Unfortunately for anyone who was hoping for it, the 100 song limit seems = to > still be in place: I can create an iTunesDB with 101 songs, but the phone > doesn't see any more than 100, even though on later mounts gtkpod can see > all the songs fine. too bad :) Ouch, that's very bad news, I was counting on bad security there. :) > Thanks to Jorg for getting it all working so quickly! Ditto, thanks Jorg! Now Joe: Are you able to sync your contacts/schedule using OpenSync or any other synchronization tool? (Sorry for the OT) --=20 redondos |