From: IRC B. <wt...@us...> - 2002-06-01 04:30:25
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[04:52] <taaz> doing software stuff i think. guys there now are mostly hardware hackers, fpga stuff and so on [05:11] mattias (~ma...@ga...) got netsplit. [05:11] mattias (~ma...@ga...) returned to #gstreamer. [05:19] sjoerd (sj...@be...) got netsplit. [05:19] sjoerd (sj...@be...) returned to #gstreamer. [05:26] Nick change: wingo -> wingo-z [06:14] thomasvs_ (~th...@ad...) joined #gstreamer. [06:31] thomasvz (~th...@80...) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:16] chillywilly (~da...@mk...) left irc: "Philosophers and plow men, each must know his part, to sow a new mentality closer to the heart..." [07:36] chillywilly (~da...@mk...) joined #gstreamer. [08:54] steveb (~st...@no...) joined #gstreamer. [09:08] ChiefHighwater (~pa...@te...) joined #gstreamer. [09:09] Nick change: thomasvs_ -> thomasvs [09:15] <ajmitch> yo thomasvs [09:15] <ajmitch> hey ChiefHighwater [09:15] <ajmitch> no omega? [09:16] <ajmitch> hrmm, he's on irc... [09:19] Company (~Co...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [09:21] <thomasvs> hi morning people [09:21] <thomasvs> anyone ever used libfame ? [09:21] <ajmitch> nope [09:21] <ajmitch> what is it? [09:22] <thomasvs> a realtime mpeg1/4 encoder library [09:22] <thomasvs> how about I give it a shot for once ;) [09:22] <ajmitch> might as well :) [09:25] <thomasvs> heh [09:25] <thomasvs> duty calls, later [09:27] Company (~Co...@p5...) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:44] thomasvs (~th...@ad...) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:48] lilo_booter (~charlie@D5774405.kabel.telenet.be) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:55] chillywilly (~da...@mk...) left irc: "Philosophers and plow men each must know his part to sow a new mentality closer to the heart..." [09:55] lilo_booter (~charlie@D5774405.kabel.telenet.be) joined #gstreamer. [10:08] thomasvs (~th...@ca...) joined #gstreamer. [10:11] <ajmitch> hi thomasvs [10:12] <Abel> thomasvs: mplayer uses libfame to rencode non-mpeg content to mpeg1 to play it through the dxr3 [10:13] <Abel> thomasvs: so i use it basically every day :) [10:14] <thomasvs> Abel: so, it works well ? [10:14] <thomasvs> I didn't know mplayer did that too, I thought only xine did that [10:18] <Abel> it works really well, yeah [10:19] <Abel> no idea about its rt divx encoding capabilities, tho [10:19] <Abel> but decoding mpeg4 and re-encoding to mpeg1 takes less than 10% of cpu usage [10:19] <ajmitch> heh [10:20] <Abel> maybe i should say that i'm running a xp1800+ [10:20] <ajmitch> decoding & playing mpeg1 takes ~90-100% cpu usage here ;) [10:20] <Abel> but still, 10% is not much [10:20] <Abel> ajmitch: because you don't have a dxr3 .. [10:21] <ajmitch> Abel: because i don't have a decent computer [10:21] <Abel> decoding and playing mpeg1/2 takes nothing since it's done by the card [10:21] <Abel> heh [10:21] <ajmitch> you'd think anything faster than a p200 would be able to playback mpeg1 ok [10:21] <ajmitch> even without a dxr3 or similar [10:23] <Abel> sure [10:23] <Abel> i can play mpeg1 on my p133 [10:25] Action: ajmitch has issues with it here on his k6-2 400 [10:26] <Abel> heh [10:26] Action: Abel loves xcdroast [10:27] <Abel> when burning fails they don't fuck the cd .. [10:27] <Abel> that's lovely [10:34] Company (~Co...@rz...) joined #gstreamer. [10:57] lilo_booter (~charlie@D5774405.kabel.telenet.be) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:59] lilo_booter (~charlie@D5774405.kabel.telenet.be) joined #gstreamer. [11:04] ChiefHighwater (~pa...@te...) left irc: [11:07] aeros (~ae...@ab...) joined #gstreamer. [11:07] <aeros> hi guy ! [11:07] <thomasvs> hey dude [11:08] richardb (~ri...@mo...) joined #gstreamer. [11:08] <richardb> Morning. Anyone awake? [11:08] <thomasvs> yeppo [11:08] <thomasvs> hey richard [11:08] <aeros> yep [11:08] <richardb> hi [11:09] <richardb> I wanted to ask - what's the state of language bindings for gstreamer? [11:09] <thomasvs> richardb: well [11:09] <thomasvs> perl is preliminary and not been worked on for a long time [11:09] <thomasvs> java I don't know but I know the code is there [11:09] <thomasvs> python is being done by taaz and he says he can play a dvd from python [11:15] <ajmitch> hi richardb [11:15] <ajmitch> & aeros [11:17] <aeros> ajmitch: hi [11:25] <richardb> Hmm - anyone know where the python bindings are kept? ;-) [11:25] <richardb> gst-bind/ has perl5 and java, but nothing more. [11:25] <thomasvs> I think gst-python or pygst - check the cvs browser [11:27] <richardb> Thanks [12:03] richardb (~ri...@mo...) left irc: "Client Exiting" [12:05] Company (~Co...@rz...) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:10] lilo_booter (~charlie@D5774405.kabel.telenet.be) got netsplit. [12:10] sjoerd (sj...@be...) got netsplit. [12:11] lilo_booter (~charlie@D5774405.kabel.telenet.be) returned to #gstreamer. [12:11] sjoerd (sj...@be...) returned to #gstreamer. [12:19] Company (~Co...@rz...) joined #gstreamer. [12:42] billh (bi...@ws...) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:56] Abel (~abel@AFontenayssB-106-1-3-185.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:16] Company (~Co...@rz...) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:49] mattias (~ma...@ga...) got netsplit. [13:51] mattias (~ma...@ga...) returned to #gstreamer. [13:56] <steveb> anybody here? [13:58] <d-aliegri> sorta [13:58] <d-aliegri> mmm not now [13:58] <steveb> thats ok, i'll talk to myself [13:59] <steveb> i want to remove gstplay.[c|h] from gst-player and put it in a seperate lib in gst-plugins [13:59] <steveb> and that lib can become the basis for simple players, be they gtk, qt or console [14:01] <ajmitch> that's the point of gst-player tho [14:02] <ajmitch> arik intended it to be libgstplay, in the gst-player module [14:02] <steveb> but now its full of gtk stuff. gstplay.c isn't, and it could be useful by itself [14:02] <thomasvs> steveb: go for it [14:03] <steveb> thomasvs: that what we want to hear! [14:04] <thomasvs> less talk more action [14:04] Action: steveb acts [14:05] <thomasvs> ajmitch: you use debianrigth ? [14:05] <thomasvs> debian, right ? [14:07] <ajmitch> yes [14:07] Action: ajmitch fears the wrath of arik ;) [14:07] <thomasvs> can you paste me a sources.list file privately ? [14:07] <ajmitch> i guess... :) [14:08] <steveb> how about gst-plugins/gst-libs/gst/play ? [14:08] <ajmitch> is arik currently working on gst-player? [14:09] <thomasvs> ajmitch: no idea [14:09] <thomasvs> but he's not working on removing the gtk bits in any case [14:09] <ajmitch> heh, that's because he only really cares about gtk [14:09] <steveb> i think he is more into gui stuff, he just wants the gstreamer stuff to just work [14:09] <ajmitch> yeah [14:09] <ajmitch> thomasvs: get the sources.list? [14:10] <thomasvs> ajmitch: yeah, thanks. I was wondering how reps look for debian to decide how I'm going to structure stuff for apt for rpm [14:10] <ajmitch> heh, ok [14:11] <thomasvs> is there a bash function that gets you the extension of a file ? [14:12] <thomasvs> like dirname gives you the dir path of a full path ? [14:12] Action: ajmitch doesn't know [14:19] mattias (~ma...@ga...) got netsplit. [14:19] mattias (~ma...@ga...) returned to #gstreamer. [14:35] Company (~Company@pD9E333C1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gstreamer. [14:35] Ridcully (~as...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [15:19] vektor (reet@HSE-Kitchener-ppp232689.sympatico.ca) left irc: "gone to get married" [15:25] gadek (~gr...@ho...) joined #gstreamer. [15:55] <steveb> thomasvs: here? [16:03] <thomasvs> yep [16:06] <steveb> i am just wondering if gst-plugins/gst-libs/gst/play is really the right place. all other libs in gst-libs are for plugins. this will be for external apps [16:06] <thomasvs> steveb: hm [16:06] <thomasvs> well [16:06] <thomasvs> IMO it could better go into gst-play [16:07] <thomasvs> I would like a kde player to end up in it as welle [16:07] <steveb> gst-play as opposed to gst-player? [16:07] <thomasvs> I don't know, what is it now ? [16:07] <thomasvs> I think it's gst-player now, isn't it ? [16:07] <thomasvs> well, I would make a lib in there [16:07] <thomasvs> I can handle the configure stuff [16:07] <thomasvs> and packagewise, it would end up in a different package [16:08] taaz (dlehn@66.37.66.32) left irc: "changing servers" [16:08] <thomasvs> but that is of course just my idea [16:08] <steveb> hmm, i guess i could live with that [16:08] <thomasvs> maybe you have better reasons for not wanting it in that module [16:08] <thomasvs> so please share ;) [16:19] <steveb> sent [16:34] <Ridcully> has anyone of you used avicap? [16:41] Action: BBB|zZz is back (gone 87:55:21) [16:41] Nick change: BBB|zZz -> BBB [16:43] <thomasvs> Ridcully: nope [17:33] taaz (dlehn@66.37.66.32) joined #gstreamer. [17:53] Company (~Company@pD9E333C1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:06] chillywilly (~da...@mk...) joined #gstreamer. [18:21] _gst_newt_ joined #gstreamer. 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[19:51] <steveb> wtay: by the way, chello uses kpnqwest for some backbone, so your connection might get funky in the next few days: http://www.kpnqwest.com/html/records.asp?sub_section_id=128 [19:51] <wtay> steveb: yeah, we noticed.. [19:52] <Zeenix> hi wtay [19:53] <wtay> yo [19:53] <wtay> steveb: update gstosssink.c [19:54] <steveb> wtay: are you ok with having a gst-plugins/app-libs? [19:55] <wtay> why not a separate module? [19:57] <wtay> I'm mean, gst-plugins is for plugins (libs and such) [19:57] <steveb> wtay: because i'm lazy and want to do the easiest thing ;) [19:58] <wtay> that's not a good reason :) [19:58] <steveb> no, but its a reason [19:59] <steveb> ok, lets talk module names gst-applibs gst-app gst-misc [20:00] <wtay> too vague IMO [20:01] <wtay> something like gst-ui would be acceptable IMO [20:01] <thomasvs> no [20:01] <thomasvs> it's not a ui thing [20:01] <thomasvs> it's ui-agnostic [20:01] <thomasvs> plus it needs to have gconf stuff too [20:01] <wtay> I'm not talking about the lib in question.. [20:01] <steveb> its helper libs for any apps [20:01] <wtay> gst-utils? [20:02] <steveb> utils implies executables to me [20:02] <wtay> if it's about the player lib then it should be gst-player [20:03] <steveb> i wanted to split it out since it has nothing to do with gtk [20:03] <wtay> gst-player and gst-player-gtk, gst-player-kde... ? [20:04] <steveb> gst-player could have libs which are packaged seperately that don't depend on gtk [20:05] <steveb> but it might be hard to get autoconf to build something if gnome libs isn't there [20:05] <steveb> then where would thomas's gconf helper lib go? [20:06] <wtay> gst-gconf? [20:07] <wtay> it depends on how modular you want it all to be.. [20:07] <wtay> you could do gst-gnome and put all the gconf, player code, ui stuff etc in it.. [20:07] <steveb> i just think that these libs are too small to justify whole modules for each one [20:11] <steveb> screw it, i'll just do something in gst-player for now [20:12] <wtay> I'm not the person to decide on that, thomas is far more qualified methinks.. [20:16] <steveb> wtay: well, your right that it doesn't really belong in gst-plugins, but we need a proper debate about what a new module would be and all i want to do now is hack to make gst media players suck less [20:17] _kris_ (~kr...@ip...) joined #gstreamer. [20:17] <_kris_> hi [20:17] <_kris_> anyone around? [20:17] <Zeenix> _kris_: many :) [20:17] <_kris_> okay [20:17] <_kris_> got a question [20:18] <_kris_> something like: [20:18] <_kris_> gnomevfssrc -> icecastfilter -> mad -> ... [20:18] <_kris_> is possible right? [20:18] <_kris_> where icecastfilter filters out some text data [20:18] <_kris_> and passes the rest of the data on [20:19] <_kris_> I just want to be sure that it's possible, before I starting fooling around [20:20] <wtay> it's possible if gnomevfssrc passes that info, yes [20:21] Ridcully (~as...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [20:24] <_kris_> wtay: it does [20:24] <_kris_> wtay: thanks [20:29] <thomasvs> steveb: well, it's probably best if you do it in gst-player for now, but I agree that we have more than enough modules already ;) [20:30] <thomasvs> but keep on hacking while people start discussing it ;) [20:30] <thomasvs> wtay: any idea on my libfame question ? [20:30] <Zeenix> thomasvs: go for it, i need it bad... [20:33] <wtay> thomasvs: sure, very easy [20:33] <steveb> thomasvs: me hack [20:33] <wtay> thomasvs: do you know what yuv video is? [20:37] <thomasvs> wtay: I know the basics, yes [20:38] <thomasvs> it's a representation not with rgb channels, but with luminance and chroma values [20:38] <wtay> thomasvs: in gstreamer, when the pad type is I420 or YV12 the buffer contains three planes [20:38] <thomasvs> ok [20:38] <wtay> thomasvs: the luminance plane is at GST_BUFFER_DATA [20:39] <wtay> the other planes are at offsets width*height and width*height + (width * height)/4 [20:39] sjoerd (sj...@be...) joined #gstreamer. [20:40] <wtay> so, if you put the right pointers in the fame_yuv_t struct you're done [20:40] <thomasvs> oh, that simple ;) [20:40] <thomasvs> that should be doable [20:40] <wtay> yes :) [20:40] <thomasvs> hm, sounds pretty logical [20:40] <wtay> dunno what the p field is about though.. [20:40] <thomasvs> IIRC chroma values are subsampled so that each chroma value corresponds with two pixels [20:40] <thomasvs> so the yuv data is just all behind each other then [20:41] <thomasvs> yeah, well, that p value had me wondering too [20:41] <thomasvs> I'll look through the fame source to see what it does exactly [20:41] <thomasvs> btw, I supppose fame is a good lib to add, right ? [20:41] <wtay> yes, very [20:41] <wtay> I had it pending :) [20:42] <thomasvs> well I'm sure I'll make lots of mistakes that can be easily corrected by someone who knows what he's doing ;) [20:42] <wtay> go for it! :) [20:42] <wtay> just don't make it loop based.. [20:42] <thomasvs> no, it's chain based [20:42] <thomasvs> I based off of mpeg2dec [20:43] <wtay> mpeg2enc I may hope.. [20:43] <thomasvs> fame used to have a "encode one frame" function [20:43] <thomasvs> uhm, yeah ;) [20:43] <wtay> yes [20:43] <thomasvs> now it's a bit changed apparently [20:43] <wtay> mpeg2enc is pretty close [20:43] <thomasvs> it looks like it was based on it [20:43] <wtay> fame_encode_frame [20:44] <wtay> hmm.. [20:44] Nick change: wtay -> wtay-tv [20:44] <thomasvs> now you need fame_start_frame/fame_encode_slice/fame_end_frame [20:44] <wtay-tv> encode_frame still exists AFAICS [20:44] <thomasvs> yeah, but it's deprecated in the docs, so i'm going to ignore it anyway [20:44] <wtay-tv> ok [20:48] <wtay-tv> it doesn't have B frame encoding though.. [20:48] <thomasvs> yes it does [20:48] <wtay-tv> ah [20:48] <wtay-tv> cool [20:48] <thomasvs> Note that in the case of video sequences containing B [20:48] <thomasvs> frames, it is up to the caller to present frames in the [20:48] <thomasvs> encoder order. Since B frames require both previous and [20:48] <thomasvs> next reference frames, they must be presented after both [20:48] <thomasvs> previous and next reference frames have been coded. For [20:49] <thomasvs> if i understand correctly, you can pass it a string consisting of I P B chars [20:49] <thomasvs> to give the order [20:49] <thomasvs> not that I have any clue what that means ;) [20:49] <wtay-tv> yes [20:49] <thomasvs> but I guess I'll find out when my encoding looks entirely different from the original video ;) [20:49] <wtay-tv> I also understand that you need to give the frames to the encoder in that order [20:50] <thomasvs> yeah, but I first want to see something, and then be disappointed that it doesn't look recognisable, and then hand it to you so it actually can work ;) [20:50] <wtay-tv> so 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 would be fed like 1 4 2 3 5 8 6 7.. [20:51] <wtay-tv> thomasvs: good idea :) [20:51] <thomasvs> I'll just be glad if I get to the "see something" part [20:52] <wtay-tv> err 1 4 2 3 7 5 6 .. [20:55] Action: chillywilly is back (gone 01:18:02) [20:55] Zeenix (~zeenix@203.135.60.45) left irc: "Client Exiting" [20:58] Action: chillywilly is away: mow the lawn [21:42] <aeros> someone can help me :) i try to do a little mpeg2 video player (to understant gstreamer concept) and i've the following error when i start playing: [21:42] <aeros> ./media_player: relocation error: /usr/local/lib/gst/libgstmpeg2dec.so: undefined symbol: mpeg2_init [21:43] <aeros> what's the f*ck ? [21:43] <aeros> gst-inspect mpeg2dec report no error, why ? :'( [21:44] <aeros> s/understant/understand/ [21:44] <steveb> aeros: check the gst-plugins/ext/mpeg2dec/Makefile.am doesn't include libmpeg2 twice, it only needs it once (fixed in cvs) [21:46] <aeros> steveb: i take the last cvs version ? [21:46] <aeros> steveb: i currently use the release 0.3.4 [21:47] mattias (~ma...@ga...) got netsplit. [21:47] mattias (~ma...@ga...) returned to #gstreamer. [21:50] <thomasvs> wtay-tv: hm, apparently encoding of B frames is not yet supported [21:54] <steveb> aeros: if you want to stick with 0.3.4, look at the difference in the makefile that i mentioned [21:54] <steveb> and make the change in your copy [21:55] thomasvs (~th...@ad...) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:55] <aeros> steveb: ok. thx [22:02] mattias (~ma...@ga...) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:04] mattias (~ma...@ga...) joined #gstreamer. [22:04] <aeros> steveb: i've copied Makefile.am from cvs source and rerun configure / make. i've this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmpeg2dec [22:04] <aeros> steveb: i've mpeg2dec 0.2.1 installed [22:06] silence_kit (~cha...@y1...) joined #gstreamer. [22:07] <silence_kit> hello [22:07] <aeros> silence_kit: hi [22:08] <silence_kit> how're you? 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[23:43] Company (~Company@pD9E33FEF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:49] <thomasvs> wtay: I have a simple question [23:50] <wtay> go ahead.. [23:50] <thomasvs> well, the fame api is like this now [23:50] <thomasvs> fame_start_frame [23:50] <thomasvs> while (bytes = fame_encode_slice) [23:51] <thomasvs> output data [23:51] <thomasvs> fame_end_frame [23:51] <wtay> yes [23:51] <thomasvs> so each time you run fame_encode_slice, it tells you how many bytes it's written to the buffer you provide yourself [23:51] <thomasvs> so my question is simply: in _chain ... [23:51] <thomasvs> ... do I run fame_encode_slice a few times, copying the return data to the output buffer each time ... [23:52] <thomasvs> ... or something else ? [23:52] <wtay> can you provide a new buffer for each _encode_slice? [23:52] <wtay> then, you can avoid a memcpy.. [23:53] <thomasvs> also, it's uneasy that there's no way of knowing how big a buffer you need for fame, it's strange they don't allocate them itself [23:53] <thomasvs> wtay: yeah, I thought of that too, but I don't think so [23:53] <wtay> then you need to memcpy I'm afraid [23:53] <thomasvs> you provide fame_encode_slice with a context you got back from fame_init in which you provide it a buffer [23:53] <thomasvs> hm, yeah, too bad [23:53] <thomasvs> but my question is basically : can the plugin output more than one output buffer in _chain ? [23:53] <wtay> sure [23:54] <wtay> as many as you want [23:54] <thomasvs> ok, so after each _encode_slice, I just memcpy that buffer with it's returned size and do that all the time [23:54] <thomasvs> ok, then the problem isn't as hard as I thought. [23:54] <wtay> yes [23:54] <thomasvs> I thought you had to assemble one big buffer for the whole frame [23:54] <thomasvs> also, can I trust the sink pad to receive buffers that always have enough data for one frame only ? [23:54] <wtay> yes [23:55] <thomasvs> ok [23:55] <thomasvs> will work on it some more tomrrow [23:55] <thomasvs> video is fun too apparently [23:55] <wtay> it is.. [23:55] <thomasvs> also, I found some other comments saying that B encoding isn't supported yet [23:55] <thomasvs> I'm not sure if the docs are out of date or not [23:55] <wtay> I think it's unsupported [23:55] <thomasvs> is it especially hard ? [23:56] <wtay> not really, it needs birectional interpollation, nothing too hard [23:56] <Uraeus> what is a mnemonic? [23:56] <wtay> the character for a shortcut [23:56] <thomasvs> some abbreviation that helps you remember something better [23:56] <thomasvs> depends on context ;) [23:57] <Uraeus> so when people add mnemonics they add keybindings in other words? [23:57] <thomasvs> in gnome, yes [23:58] <Uraeus> is there a difference between a mnemoic and a accelerator? [00:00] --- Sat Jun 1 2002 [00:00] <wtay> the accelerator is the broader term, the mnemonic is just a way of implementing an accelerator I guess.. [00:10] <Uraeus> getting a australian work permit is a lot of work and cost quite a lot, just to have my application procesed cost me about 600 Euro, and even before I get there I will have spent around 300 Euro on getting the needed papers [00:12] <thomasvs> Uraeus: why are you going to australia ? [00:12] <thomasvs> Uraeus: btw, I could use help on the specs ;) [00:13] <thomasvs> hm, night guys [00:13] Nick change: thomasvs -> thomasvz [00:13] <Uraeus> thomasvs: codewords: warm, pleasant people, not to different culture than norwat [00:13] <Uraeus> thomasvz: wait [00:13] <thomasvz> Uraeus: yeah, but do you want to move or something ? [00:13] <Uraeus> thomasvz: what do you want to me to do with the specs? [00:14] <Uraeus> thomasvz: yes, I am moving :) [00:14] <Uraeus> thomasvz: I plan on staying up a bit tonight so I can do some SPEC hacking [00:14] <thomasvz> Uraeus: well, check on the ones I did, and maybe put in new ones [00:14] <Uraeus> thomasvz: ok, will do that [00:14] <thomasvz> maybe even try building them in *itches [00:14] <Uraeus> hehe [00:14] <thomasvz> ;) [00:14] <Uraeus> thomasvz: send me latest version before going to bed then [00:14] <thomasvz> I did a few today in it, put them online too [00:14] <thomasvz> Uraeus: it's on freshmeat [00:15] <Uraeus> eeek :) [00:15] <thomasvz> yeah, well, I'll probably still change the name, but I wanted to get it out [00:15] <thomasvz> it's easier to set up too [00:15] <thomasvz> and I also started setting up an apt repository on gstreamer.net [00:15] <thomasvz> it's got a few packages in already [00:15] <thomasvz> oh right [00:15] <thomasvz> you can also just download those and install them and see if they work for you [00:15] <thomasvz> since they'll be the same as in red-carpet [00:16] <thomasvz> http://gstreamer.net/apt [00:16] <thomasvz> ok, going to bed now [00:17] <Uraeus> night dude [00:17] <thomasvz> later ;) [00:18] chrisime (~chrisime@pD9E50FCE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:18] chrisime_ (~chrisime@pD959017D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gstreamer. [00:18] <Uraeus> hi chrisime_ [00:20] <chrisime_> hoi [00:30] <Uraeus> darn, I need sleep, see ya all tommorow [00:30] Uraeus (~csc...@c2...) left irc: "Client Exiting" [00:30] <wtay> night [00:31] chrisime_ (~chrisime@pD959017D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [00:48] grub_booter (~charlie@D5774405.kabel.telenet.be) joined #gstreamer. [01:33] BBB (~BB...@uc...) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:46] BBB (~BB...@uc...) joined #gstreamer. [01:55] Nick change: wingo-z -> wingo [01:55] <wingo> yo [01:55] <wtay> yo [01:58] Action: wingo had a first day of work today [01:59] <wingo> with a moving company [01:59] <wtay> heh [01:59] <wingo> funny thing is, it might have gotten me a job programming :) [01:59] <wingo> the second house was owned by a professor of transportation, [01:59] <wingo> who 'always needs programmers' [01:59] <wingo> interesting ;) [01:59] <wtay> nice.. [02:00] <wingo> esp with this shitty job market atm, yes. [02:08] <wingo> yay, raph sent me my lost advogato passwd! [02:17] ds (ds...@co...) left irc: "restarting" [02:20] <wtay> time for bed, cya [02:20] Nick change: wtay -> wtay-zZz [02:37] _kris_ (~kr...@ip...) left irc: "sleep" [02:44] billh (billh@68.15.8.100) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) |