From: Mark A. H. <ma...@ev...> - 2005-03-23 19:29:34
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I've got a Fuji FinePix A340. Gnome recognises that it is a camera when I plug it in, and tries to run gthumb to import pictures. However the libgphoto code that gthumb uses doesn't recognise it as a camera. So, I end up treating the camera as a USB disk and grabbing the pictures that way. What do I need to do to add support to gphoto for the camera? Is this page the best place to start: http://ufies.org/~christophe/gphoto2/slide-11.php Thanks for any help, Mark. |
From: Marcus M. <ma...@je...> - 2005-03-23 21:50:41
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On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 02:29:31PM -0500, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > I've got a Fuji FinePix A340. Gnome recognises that it is a camera when > I plug it in, and tries to run gthumb to import pictures. > > However the libgphoto code that gthumb uses doesn't recognise it as a > camera. So, I end up treating the camera as a USB disk and grabbing the > pictures that way. > What do I need to do to add support to gphoto for the camera? Is this > page the best place to start: > http://ufies.org/~christophe/gphoto2/slide-11.php I think it is a USB Mass Storage camera, it is just that GNOME detects it because it is reported by HAL/DBUS I assume. No need for libgphoto2 support. Ciao, Marcus |
From: Mark A. H. <ma...@ev...> - 2005-03-23 22:15:10
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On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 22:50 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote: > No need for libgphoto2 support. I know I don't /have/ to use gphoto to get pictures from the camera. But, I want gphoto to recognise the camera so that programs that use libgphoto will "just work". For example, in f-spot, it sure would be nice to click "import from camera" and have it work. At worst, couldn't gphoto move files from one location to another? Mark. |
From: Marcus M. <ma...@je...> - 2005-03-23 22:53:24
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On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 05:15:06PM -0500, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 22:50 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote: > > No need for libgphoto2 support. > > I know I don't /have/ to use gphoto to get pictures from the camera. > But, I want gphoto to recognise the camera so that programs that use > libgphoto will "just work". > > For example, in f-spot, it sure would be nice to click "import from > camera" and have it work. > > At worst, couldn't gphoto move files from one location to another? A Hal based backend for USB Storage cameras was planned by Hubert, but I have not heard of progress yet. So, it is planned, but not done yet. Ciao, Marcus |
From: Hubert F. <hfi...@te...> - 2005-03-24 01:01:35
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> A Hal based backend for USB Storage cameras was planned by Hubert, but > I have not heard of progress yet. From now I'm sort of stuck by gphoto2 architecture as I can't detect a USB device and have it not attempted to be open which a/ fails because USB Mass Storage is taking over it b/ unloading USB Mass Storage would defeat the feature so it is not a solution either. Since I haven't the time to jack-hammer into the code as I wanted 2.1.6 to be out before as we can start working on 2.2. Hub |
From: Hubert F. <hfi...@te...> - 2005-03-24 00:59:12
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Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 22:50 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote: > >>No need for libgphoto2 support. > > > I know I don't /have/ to use gphoto to get pictures from the camera. > But, I want gphoto to recognise the camera so that programs that use > libgphoto will "just work". > > For example, in f-spot, it sure would be nice to click "import from > camera" and have it work. What's wrong with import from folder ? Hub |
From: Mark A. H. <ma...@ev...> - 2005-03-24 17:07:39
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On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 19:59 -0500, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > > For example, in f-spot, it sure would be nice to click "import from > > camera" and have it work. >=20 > What's wrong with import from folder ? Nothing. The problem I have is that when I plug in my camera, gnome hands off to a libgphoto-enabled app and that app doesn't do the right thing. Same with "import from camera" in f-spot. As an end user, I don't understand why it doesn't "just work". That said, as a savvy Linux user, I now have a better understanding of the issue and will see how I can tweak my setup to use the current software. Thanks for all your help, Mark. |
From: Hubert F. <hfi...@te...> - 2005-03-24 17:56:46
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Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > > Nothing. The problem I have is that when I plug in my camera, gnome > hands off to a libgphoto-enabled app and that app doesn't do the right > thing. > > Same with "import from camera" in f-spot. As an end user, I don't > understand why it doesn't "just work". > > That said, as a savvy Linux user, I now have a better understanding of > the issue and will see how I can tweak my setup to use the current > software. > It is more a g-v-m / GNOME / f-spot issue. Hub |
From: Mark A. H. <ma...@ev...> - 2005-03-24 18:50:29
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On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 13:00 -0500, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > > Same with "import from camera" in f-spot. As an end user, I don't > > understand why it doesn't "just work". > It is more a g-v-m / GNOME / f-spot issue. I don't know what g-v-m is. I understand why you would say this. But Gnome is focusing on usability and it depends on libgphoto. When the user plugs in a camera and Gnome brings up a dialog box that shows it recognized that a camera was attached, it is quite confusing when the next thing a user sees is "Camera not found." So, maybe this is a Gnome issue and Gnome should recognize that a camera can be used as a disk and act appropriately. But, on the other hand, why not make a unified interface for handling Mass Storage cameras as well as other camera interfaces? (Along these lines, couldn't libgphoto use dbus as another interface to discover cameras in the same way Gnome knows that a camera has been plugged in? Or was that what was planned?) Mark. |
From: Hubert F. <hfi...@te...> - 2005-03-24 19:09:59
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Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 13:00 -0500, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > >>Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > > >>>Same with "import from camera" in f-spot. As an end user, I don't >>>understand why it doesn't "just work". > > >>It is more a g-v-m / GNOME / f-spot issue. > > > I don't know what g-v-m is. gnome-volume-manager > > I understand why you would say this. But Gnome is focusing on usability > and it depends on libgphoto. And ? > > When the user plugs in a camera and Gnome brings up a dialog box that > shows it recognized that a camera was attached, it is quite confusing > when the next thing a user sees is "Camera not found." That is a gnome-volume-manager. It is the program that brings you the dialog. > > So, maybe this is a Gnome issue and Gnome should recognize that a camera > can be used as a disk and act appropriately. Yep. I get this dialog when I insert my compactflash to the USB reader. > > But, on the other hand, why not make a unified interface for handling > Mass Storage cameras as well as other camera interfaces? Because they can be disk, etc. There is still some sort of work towards wasting CPU cycles using libgphoto2 to copy files over, but currently it is staled... > (Along these lines, couldn't libgphoto use dbus as another interface to > discover cameras in the same way Gnome knows that a camera has been > plugged in? Or was that what was planned?) Use D-bus to what ? You mean use HAL ? that is something I also wish, but that won't change the problem. Hub |
From: Mark A. H. <ma...@ev...> - 2005-03-24 19:22:30
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On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 14:02 -0500, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > > (Along these lines, couldn't libgphoto use dbus as another interface to > > discover cameras in the same way Gnome knows that a camera has been > > plugged in? Or was that what was planned?) >=20 > Use D-bus to what ? You mean use HAL ? that is something I also wish,=20 > but that won't change the problem. I guess I mean HAL. D-bus and HAL are both much lower-level than I usually work. Mark. |
From: Nicolas C. <ch...@ne...> - 2005-03-24 19:58:39
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Mark A. Hershberger wrote: >When the user plugs in a camera and Gnome brings up a dialog box that >shows it recognized that a camera was attached, it is quite confusing >when the next thing a user sees is "Camera not found." > > I think that raising the issue by adding a bug in the Gnome tracker can't hurt... -- Nicolas |
From: Mark A. H. <ma...@ev...> - 2005-03-24 20:11:04
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On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 20:58 +0100, Nicolas Chauvat wrote: > Mark A. Hershberger wrote: >=20 > >When the user plugs in a camera and Gnome brings up a dialog box that > >shows it recognized that a camera was attached, it is quite confusing > >when the next thing a user sees is "Camera not found." > > =20 > > > I think that raising the issue by adding a bug in the Gnome tracker=20 > can't hurt... Thanks for the suggestion/reminder. One has already been filed: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D171380 Mark. |