From: Gudmundur A. T. <mu...@cs...> - 2002-11-24 08:59:24
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I also prefer to use the keyboard most of the time, so any good=20 XML-editor would have to at least have most of the good stuff accessible=20= via keyboard. Oxygen allows me to do that most of the time, since it = uses=20 (if it can) a DTD or, in my case, an XSD to suggest things like the=20 appropriate element start tag (say if there=B4s certain order to the=20 elements) or a list of allowed/required attributes of a tag. This comes = up=20 in a menu either automatically as you type (nice) or via = Apple-Command(Alt=20 on PC usually)-Spacebar on demand. This you can scroll up and down with=20= the arrow keys and hit enter to select the element or attribute name and=20= have it inserted, to save typing. Of course, it also gives you the = closing=20 tag when it can ,and closes quotes and stuff. This applies to = XML-creation=20 mode in general, whether you're writing by hand a schema instance (using=20= your own XSD) or writing the actual XSD, in which case the = tag-completion=20 help uses the XML Schema tagset. So, my experience is a good one. It really speeds up the = XML-development=20 for me so far, not the least because you can do Shift-Command-V to=20 validate the current document (VERY useful for debugging on the fly!)=20 quite fast, since the slow-loading XML-parsing libraries are already in=20= memory. Also Shift-Command-T to run a specified XSL stylesheet on an=20 XML-document. That is probably the number one time saver, closely = followed=20 by the tag-completion functions. The project management isn't very powerful, though, but it's adequate.=20= Other cool stuff you can do is to run Oxygen as an applet, though I = haven' t tried it. In summary, to answer your question Lincoln, I think I almost never = need=20 to use the mouse when I'm working! Try it yourself and let me know how = you=20 like it. Mummi On Friday, November 22, 2002, at 06:41 PM, Lincoln Stein wrote: > When you're creating XML with Oxygen, how much of your time is spent=20= > clicking > on pull down menus, and how much is keying in the text? I really do = not=20 > want > to lift my hands from the keyboard. > > Lincoln > > On Friday 15 November 2002 06:25 pm, Gudmundur Arni Thorisson wrote: >> I'd like to add to my own comment below that upon reading more = about=20 >> the >> Oxygen XML-editor, I see that it actually comes with a bunch of = DocBook >> DTD and XSL transformation files, so it's practially ready to go if = you >> want to create some DocBook files. >> Now, I haven't actually used the DocBook stuff myself, but XML = Schema >> editing and XML-document creation is quite nice, plus it can run as = an >> applet as well. It's Java, cross platform, even runs on my Mac OS X.=20= >> Cheap >> ($25 academic license). Built on open-source Apache XML libraries. I = like >> it. >> >> Mummi >> >> On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 10:46 PM, Gudmundur Arni Thorisson=20= >> wrote: >>> Aren't there some good DocBook editors out there? Or one could use = a >>> generic XML-editor (I'm using Oxygen (http://www.oxygenxml.com) for = some >>> stuff myself). DocBook or similar XML-standard sounds cool for the >>> future, >>> with the leverage of XML behind it. >>> >>> >>> Mummi >>> >>> On Saturday, November 16, 2002, at 05:49 AM, Allen Day wrote: >>>>> I thought about it, but am not particularly keen on actually doing=20= >>>>> it. >>>>> Clearly that is something that will need to be done eventually. >>>>> Personally, html seems to me like the best candidate for SOPs = though, >>>>> since it would be (very) easy for users to install and use. >>>> >>>> Heh, no one wants to do it! But seriously, there are existing = modules >>>> to turn POD into HTML, LaTeX, etc. DocBook has XSLT going for it, = and >>>> so could be converted to POD if necessary, but it's a pain to write = by >>>> hand... >>>> >>>> -Allen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This sf.net email is sponsored by: To learn the basics of securing >>>> your web site with SSL, click here to get a FREE TRIAL of a Thawte >>>> Server Certificate: http://www.gothawte.com/rd524.html >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gmod-devel mailing list >>>> Gmo...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gmod-devel >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> This sf.net email is sponsored by: To learn the basics of securing = your >>> web site with SSL, click here to get a FREE TRIAL of a Thawte Server >>> Certificate: http://www.gothawte.com/rd524.html >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gmod-devel mailing list >>> Gmo...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gmod-devel >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This sf.net email is sponsored by: To learn the basics of securing >> your web site with SSL, click here to get a FREE TRIAL of a Thawte >> Server Certificate: http://www.gothawte.com/rd524.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Gmod-devel mailing list >> Gmo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gmod-devel > > -- > Lincoln Stein > ls...@cs... > > |