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From: Hassan A. <au...@cr...> - 2000-01-18 17:53:53
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Yes, These are new. They are a a pre-0.2 release type. I have started making this as I always wanted. Modular, etc... Also, you will notice a start Yacas session and other session, not yet implemented. These will probably become implemented by version 0.3. The GUI is not final yet. I am just toying with looks. Please give your comments on the looks! Thanks , H. Aurag |
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From: Hassan A. <au...@cr...> - 2000-01-15 18:03:00
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Hi, I have started moving to a more modular design in order to allow the creation of different mathematical sessions from within GmatH. Right now, I have just moved the code of the present GmatH session to a GmatH_NumPySession. What you see right now on your desktop has moved to class that is instanciated by GmatH main script. The goal is to make GmatH script into a global MDI (not yet), that then calls different sessions. For now, only the move to a separate class has been made! If you want to help check the latest CVS files, download them and try them out. I would also like for you to submit bug reports about those cvs files: I am adding a CVS group in GmatH's 'bugzilla'. Post there, and give the CVS version of file. I am not really branching anything right now, so it is easy to browse and have version numbers. Of course, any comments are welcome! The CVS page accessible is accessible from project page: http://gmath.sourceforge.net Or directly from http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=454 Have fun H. Aurag |
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From: apinkus <ap...@xs...> - 2000-01-10 21:03:35
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Hassan Aurag wrote: > > Starting from version 0.2 (not out yet), I will turn GMatH into a > client/server thinggy (original purpose but not yet implemented). That sounds great! So gMatH would then become a user interface to all those math tools out there... Yacas can already work in client/server mode. The distribution contains a small http server, and you can send strings to it for evaluation, and the result is returned... It could then probably also handle a gmath client :-) > > There will be a central GnomeMDI thing with generic menus (multiple > document interface) and various sessions corresponding to various > mathematical tools/engines out there! > Sounds excellent! > > Ideally again, we would decide on some 'universal data format' so that > people can cut&paste between various sessions and use the data from > Numerical Python session in eg yacas and vice-versa! > That should be fairly simple. Yacas can easily manipulate expressions, writing them out in another format if needed... > Hopefully, you will add (with me if needed!), a Yacas Session! > I haven't programmed in Python before, but that shouldn't be too hard. > > Other people might want to add any type of session they like with the > following rules: > > -Each session must have a Quick Help file! (We decide the format later) > The format will not be a problem. The Yacas manual is written in Yacas itself (much like Latex), so it could write out the manual in any format you can think of. > -Sessions must zero intersection (eg: if yacas support piddle then we > don't need a piddle session!) > I think piddle is a good idea ;-) > -Each session must self-contained (eg: rely minimally on external > downloads, installs and if there are any add them to a Wizard Tool - I > started writing- to help in their installation) > Well, you will need to download Yacas of course ;-) But I know what you mean. A package should depend as little as possible on other packages. Yacas is self-contained, so... > -Each session must support teh "universal data format" (eg: have a > function say universal_format(data) that returns data in that format and > a from_universal_to_specific_session_format(data) function to do > inverse) > No problem. Just let me know when you have a format. > > Well, there is still room to add loads of things! > Yes! There are loads of things you could add to a math user interface! Looking forward to the future developments. Keep up the good work!!!! Greetings, Ayal Pinkus |
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From: Hassan A. <au...@dm...> - 2000-01-10 18:48:57
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:51:26 (Ayal Zwi Pinkus) wrote: > > > Hi, nice to hear from you! > > I did not get your first email, regrettably... Cool that you like the > idea! I'll try to get some time off to look into this. > > Keep in touch! > > Ayal Pinkus > > > > On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Hassan Aurag wrote: > > > > > I have replied but due to a staroffice bug I am not sure! > > > > I hope I corrected this! > > > > In case you didn't get my first answer, please email me so that I can > > resend you my long thoughts! > > > > Here is my short answer though! YES! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > On 1/9/00, 7:43:53 PM, "Ayal Pinkus" <ap...@xs...> wrote regarding > > Gnome Mathematical Interface: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I saw your project "Gnome Mathematical Interface", and it looks very > > nice! > > > > > I was wondering: would you consider supporting math engines other than > > > Python? > > > I am the author of Yacas, and Yacas seriously needs a user interface > > ;-) > > > > > I do not have a lot of time the next month to dabble with your code > > (I'm > > > moving > > > to another appartment right now), but I would be very interested in > > getting > > > it to > > > work with Yacas. > > > > > Kind regards, > > > Ayal Pinkus > > > > > > > > > Ok, Then here goes the long answer! Starting from version 0.2 (not out yet), I will turn GMatH into a client/server thinggy (original purpose but not yet implemented). There will be a central GnomeMDI thing with generic menus (multiple document interface) and various sessions corresponding to various mathematical tools/engines out there! I am taking care of Numerical Python and it will become NumPySession.py in the source "Package" directory (not yet used, but in CVS). Other people (including you) are welcome to include your various tools engines! Ideally (by 1.0 version), people will be able to start GMatH and then start any 'session' they want, even multiple sessions! Ideally again, we would decide on some 'universal data format' so that people can cut&paste between various sessions and use the data from Numerical Python session in eg yacas and vice-versa! The Numerical Python Session will support all numerical python extensions and a home-brewed 2D-Plot tool. I will add, starting probably from version 0.5, a PIDDLE (cool 2D data vizualization tool) session! Hopefully, you will add (with me if needed!), a Yacas Session! Other people might want to add any type of session they like with the following rules: -Each session must have a Quick Help file! (We decide the format later) -Sessions must zero intersection (eg: if yacas support piddle then we don't need a piddle session!) -Each session must self-contained (eg: rely minimally on external downloads, installs and if there are any add them to a Wizard Tool - I started writing- to help in their installation) -Each session must support teh "universal data format" (eg: have a function say universal_format(data) that returns data in that format and a from_universal_to_specific_session_format(data) function to do inverse) Well, there is still room to add loads of things! PS: I am forwarding this mail to GMath-devel list so that people there interested would know about the plans and discuss it. Hope to hear from you soon! Hassan Aurag |
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From: Hassan A. <au...@cr...> - 2000-01-08 00:21:14
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Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 1/7/00, 5:14:35 PM, "Steve Weber" <sw...@ma...> wrote regarding [Gmath-devel] Greetings: > Hello all, > New to the list, hope to see a bit of development, and hope to help. > This next week or two, I probably won't be able to check out the source code (school's a little hectic right now) but I am definitely avaliable for a sounding board or just plain arguments. Please do that (arguments) as I need them to feel alive! We are not many yet, but I hope this will become more interesting now! > Hisenna, > Steve Weber > LYCOShop is now open. On your mark, get set, SHOP!!! > http://shop.lycos.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Gmath-devel mailing list > Gma...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/gmath-devel |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@ma...> - 2000-01-07 22:17:10
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Hello all, New to the list, hope to see a bit of development, and hope to help. This next week or two, I probably won't be able to check out the source code (school's a little hectic right now) but I am definitely avaliable for a sounding board or just plain arguments. Hisenna, Steve Weber LYCOShop is now open. On your mark, get set, SHOP!!! http://shop.lycos.com/ |
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From: Hassan A. <au...@cr...> - 2000-01-05 15:37:03
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Hi, Well I have contacted the author of the gtk backend and asked him if he wants to jump in! In the meantime, if you really know it and can help "incorporating it" by providing plotting functions using it, I will be more than happy! Actually anyone feeling like adding nifty functions to that GnomePlot.py or writing other *Plot.py modules for GmatH is welcomed to do so as this is a part I am not an expert in yet! Hassan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 1/5/00, 12:56:20 AM, Robert Kern <ke...@it...> wrote regarding Re: [Gmath-devel] Version 0.1 is out: > On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Hassan Aurag wrote: > [snip] > > Also anyone knows anything about piddle? > I do. Yes, it is something that would be very nice to support for > graphing and other data visualization. > > Ciao > -- > Robert Kern > ke...@ca... > "In the fields of hell where the grass grows high > Are the graves of dreams allowed to die." > -- Richard Harter |
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From: Robert K. <ke...@it...> - 2000-01-05 05:59:10
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Hassan Aurag wrote: [snip] > Also anyone knows anything about piddle? I do. Yes, it is something that would be very nice to support for graphing and other data visualization. > Ciao -- Robert Kern ke...@ca... "In the fields of hell where the grass grows high Are the graves of dreams allowed to die." -- Richard Harter |
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From: Hassan A. <au...@cr...> - 2000-01-05 04:24:44
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It is at it says. Version 0.1 is out! Not many changes from version 0.0.10 which was a 0.1 candidate, except for adding a SaveSession (correctly) and a Batch command plus some minor changes! I need feedback! Btw, anyone knows about a good and secure remote execution software protocol, NOT RSH (not secure enough) I will separate low_interface from GmatH and allow people to start new sessions locally or remotely provided GmatH is installed on remote machine of course? Also anyone knows anything about piddle? Ciao |
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From: Hassan A. <au...@cr...> - 2000-01-03 16:32:43
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Hi, Just wanted to say that I am preparing for a 0.1 release soon! A lot of stuff have been changed meanwhile, you can check the CVS and=20 look at diffs if you wish. I'd like to have feedback from you people out there on one point: Do you think it would be a good idea to implement a GnomeDruid that'd=20 help users fetch and install numerical python and numerical python=20 extensions? In another note, I would like to know if anyone out there knows about=20 piddle and if it is good 2d and if we need to support it! Finally, there are a list of tasks put in the project page that you=20 can browse, and you are welcome to take your time and help me with=20 them! The project page has changed to: http://gmath.sourceforge.net H. Aurag au...@ge... |
