[Geotools-devel] IRC meeting Log 24th July 2006, unfortunately without colour

[Adrian C. <ac...@gm...>]

<jgarnett> gotta cycle my browser here back in a sec ... then can we
churn through the meeting.
<acuster> good
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<jive> hello again ...
<jive> (need to let someone else use my machine - this is Jody)
<jive> I need to add a scary one to the meeting, andrea was doing
research today...
<jive> 1) 2.2.0, do we want you yet? 2) Feature module can merge 3) IP
of main done! 4) JScience vs GeoTools2
<jive> okay lets party ..
<jive> 1) 2.2., do we want you yet?
<jive> This is a tough one, 2.2.x is so much better then 2.1.x by now ..
<jive> and things like geoserver are moving quickly (with a bit of help
from simboss)
<acuster> Jesse was going to back me for this, but jmappane should be in
<jive> so I think we owe the users a stable release.
<acuster> I don't know if the javadocs have been updated for the release
<acuster> I'd like 2.2.0 to be a good sdk
<jive> yeah we should port it, but it is not a show stopper ...
<acuster> who is doing the release?
<jive> I want it to be good, but I also want it to be acurate ... aka
where we are at now.
<acuster> when's 2.3?
<jive> richrd has had a bit of time to do releases .. .but I understand
they are snowed under with work right now.
<acuster> is 2.3 simply now because simboss is done?
<jive> I would like 2.3 for September, consisting of GC merge and the
completed IP check 
<jive> (possibly with OSGEO (C) )
<acuster> I thought you needed Feature merged for mid july?
<jive> it already has significant improvements for Filtre and the
like ...
<acuster> 2.4 is feature merge?
<jive> That is where we need Justin.
<jive> but frankly 2.3.x could go on a branch when the IP check is done,
and the FM can begin.
<acuster> when will IP be done?
<jive> Note the FM branch is not in good shape, I had quaility problems
everywhere mostly because justin was on his own (see that email this
week with QA guidelines)
* acuster can't write the first chapter of the document without jmappane
<jive> well I am more then 1/2 way now... main is done and it is the big
one.
<jive> I figure I am at 2200 of 3000 files.
<simboss> jody
<jive> acuster if you got needs, like Jmappane then we do it...
<simboss> sorry intervene
<jive> yep
<acuster> I thought that would be obvious
<acuster> go simboss go!
<simboss> but could you drop me a few lines about this IP review process
<simboss> since I added many files
<simboss> I might help out
<simboss> by going over all of them
<simboss> and do the review for you
<simboss> adding licensing and such
<acuster> How+to+ip+check
<jive> there is lots of information on how to ip check, on the osgeo
site.
<jive> I admit as the representative I could go and fetch some of it.
<jive> But you will be just as well served by reading through any of the
review.txt files I have been commititng.
<jive> (what is needed is running through the headers, and confirming
code ownership, and simply noting any problems)
<jive> we do not need to fix them right now ...
<simboss> cool
<jive> FrankW ping? Is our mentor and may also be able to help.
<acuster> simboss, do you understand the GPL?
<jive> simboss I have sent email to you when you are the module
maintainer ... but yes - if you can please check the headers after you
do your merge it would be squiffy.
<simboss> cool
<simboss> I can handle it
<jive> up back on topic ... 2.2.x
<jive> sounds like we have one showstopper - 
<jive> JMapPane
<jive> anything else you guys know of?
<simboss> nope
<jive> With one show stopper we need to just say no, and try again next
week. 
<acuster> To close (1), for 2.2. it is necessary that the javadocs refer
to GeoAPI 2.0 and would be invaluable to have jmappane
<acuster> martin claims to have comitted a change to pom.xml
<jive> I started setting up JMapPane in ext, but could use a hand (the
IP check is my toper priority and coding is for when my sanity runs out)
<acuster> so all should be dandy, if the release is not "in process"
<acuster> jody, I want only an image
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<jive> I understand ...
<acuster> I don't need panning, or anything else
<acuster> rgould!
<jive> Hi richard we missed you.
<rgould> hi
<rgould> sorry i'm late
<jive> We just finished saying that 2.2.x was not ready, needs javadocs
and JMapPane.
<jive> do you have any words before the next agenda item?
<rgould> oh
<rgould> well, that's okay - I don't have time to make the release
<rgould> besides, javadocs are part of the release
<rgould> unless you mean writin javadocs
<acuster> no
<acuster> I merely want to know that you haven't pulled the release code
yet
<acuster> martin changed the pom.xml
<rgould> no, I haven't
<rgould> havent' started
<rgould> likely won't be able to touch it until friday
<rgould> I have been pulled into some other work
<acuster> so the javadocs, when next built, should point to geoapi 2.0
<rgould> and won't have time to do it on volunteer time
<acuster> cool
<rgould> (exams next week)
<jive> okay, thanks.
<jive> acuster that gives us a bit of time. My life will get better mid
week and I should be able to gather up the pecies of JMapPane on tursday
night.
<acuster> (2) was  just that simboss considers that he's done enough
great work that the feature branch, could, if it so choses, begin to
merge
<jive> 2) Feature model can merge
<jive> Well actually it needs a bit more work, the entire data module
has a concurance problem that I need to fix in a QA run.
<jive> (Basically "builders" were being stored as a field on the
datastore level ...
<jive> since they are stateful, the first code that used to threads
against the samedatastore would die...
<jive> ... so the QA run is needed.
<jive> I told RobA I would finish that for the end of the month ... so
lets ask again next monday.
<jive> questions?
<acuster> cool
<jive> (and do we get to ask simboss about GC goodness?)
<jive> moving on ...
* mleslie has quit (Client Quit)
<jive> 3) IP of main done ...
<jive> Wish FrankW was here ...
<jive> acuster you never did get feedback on your IP doc questions?
<acuster> not a peep from their lawyer
<jive> Okay.
* acuster will try stallman
<acuster> just for the fun of it
<jive> Richard? You have managed to attend their meetings .. can you bug
em please?
<jive> try him for what? pretention ;-)
<acuster> for his wild ideas
<jive> The IP check of main is completed ... this takes us well past the
half way point ...
<acuster> what's left?
<jive> The remaining plugins usually have 30 classes each ...
<jive> I am going alphabetically.
<jgarnett> gt2-mif
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<jgarnett> gt2-mysql
<jgarnett> gt2-openoffice
<jgarnett> gt2-postgis
<jgarnett> gt2-referencing
<jgarnett> gt2-render
<jgarnett> gt2-rmic
<jgarnett> gt2-sample-data
<jgarnett> gt2-shapefile
<jgarnett> gt2-shapefile-renderer
<jgarnett> gt2-svgsupport
<jgarnett> gt2-tiger
<jgarnett> gt2-unopkg
<jgarnett> gt2-validation
<jgarnett> gt2-vpf
<jgarnett> gt2-wfs
<jgarnett> gt2-widgets-swing
<jgarnett> gt2-wms
<acuster> what's widgets-swing?
<jive> we only have a couple significant issues, stubbing up the arcsde
jar is the top
<jive> groldan any progress on that?
<jive> widgets-swing seems to be a failed experiment, I think 2 years
old or more...
<jive> anybody know different?
<groldan> no progress
<jive> I think they had a complicated api to try and define tools or
something ... it was scary (but I was new at the time)
<jive> That is kind of it for the formal agenda ..
<jive> any other topics or shall we open the floor...
<jive> (jody opens foor, trap door appears, eeeek! )
<jive> and then there was quiet
<jive> jdeolive you have been doing some gtxml hacking ...
<jive> jdeolive ping?
<jdeolive> yup
<jdeolive> but just on the fm branch, it would be nice to do it on trunk
<jive> how is that going? 
<jive> did you catch the part about trunk earlier? I would like to make
it through data by the end of the month ...
<jdeolive> its going good, i am working on getting filter bindings all
ported over to the new filter expression api
<jdeolive> sorry, i havent really been around for the meeting, will have
to catfch with the logs
<jive> I really want RobA to be able to hack his jdbc datastore ... have
you looked at jdbc ever?
<jive> jdeolive, there was a bit of confusion around the geoserver list
about what is going on ...
<jdeolive> ok, how so?
<jive> is there any chance of an IRC meeting I can attend? Doubt we can
ask you to stay late ...
<jive> I was asking what is going on for 1.4.x and chris thought I was
running it ... I think we were both hoping for an update we understood.
<jdeolive> i am not even sure when the next one is :)
<jdeolive> well we can release the next milestone
<jdeolive> anyday now
<jive> well there is one at 9am via skype, and one at 9pm (noon PST) via
IRC ... I just cannot make the later one.
<jdeolive> i just need to find the time, this week has been very crazy
for me
<jive> timing may be good if the geotools release goes out ...
<jdeolive> fair enough
<jdeolive> yeah, i would like to release this milestone against the
geotools release
<jive> but that seems on hold as richard our release maven needs to
study for exams ...
<jdeolive> i see
<rgould> someone else could build the release :)
<jive> me and you could kick one out, but you would need to upload.
<rgould> i am available for questions and help, I've just been pulled
into other work
<jive> (the next release needs JMapPane in ext, so acuster can actually
document w/ pictures)
<jive> (he gets tired of waving his hands, hand waving is hard w/ ascii
art)
<acuster> I actually don't need it yet, but I need it with 2.2.0
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<acuster> sdk install to map in one, small file
<jive> okay we are moving out of time ...
<jive> can someone who was here the whole time gather and post the logs
please?