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[Geotools-admin] job posting blog post draft for review

[Jody G. <jod...@gm...>]

If I can ask someone to review and hit publish. 

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Jody Garnett

[Geotools-admin]

[<geo...@li...>]

ขบวนการล้มเจ้า ปะทะ ขบวนการล่าแม่มด

	“ขบวนการล้มเจ้า” เกิดจากการรวมตัวกันอย่างหลวมๆ ของคนที่ต้องการบ่อน
ทำลายสถาบันพระมหากษัตริย์ ขณะที่กลุ่มคนที่อยู่ตรงกันข้ามรวมตัวขึ้นต่อต้านเ ป็น 
“ขบวนการรักเจ้า” แต่ฝ่าย “ขบวนการล้มเจ้า” มองว่าเป็นขบวนการที่จัดตั้งด้วยกลไก
ของรัฐ ที่ต้องการทำลายฝ่ายตน และชื่อ “ขบวนการรักเจ้า” ฟังดูดีน่าศรัทธา ทำให้ฝ่าย
ตนเสียเปรียบ จึงหาชื่อเรียกขานของฝ่ายตรงข้ามขึ้นมาใหม่ว่า “ขบวนการล่าแม่มด” 
หรือ “คณะล่าแม่มด” ชื่อนี้มีที่มาอย่างไร...

	ยุโรปยุคกลาง (Medieval Ages) หรือ ยุคมืด (Dark Ages) เกิดขึ้นหลังจากการล่ม
สลายของจักรวรรดิโรมัน ทำให้ยุโรปแตกเป็นอาณาจักรมากมายและไม่มีขื่อแป จนตก
เป็นเหยื่อของการรุกรานจากชนชาติภายนอก คริสต์ศาสนาจึงกลายเป็นที่พึ่งและสถาบัน
สูงสุดของยุโรป แม้แต่เจ้าเมืองหรือกษัตริย์ก็ต้องฟังคริสตจักร “แม่มด” จึงเป็นแพะรับ
บาป ต้องการฆ่าใครทารุนใครก็อ้างว่าเป็นแม่มด การทำลายล้างนั้นถือว่าเป็นความชอบ
ธรรม สภาพการณ์ของยุโรปในยุคนั้นจึงเป็นภาพพจน์ของลักษณะความเป็นยุคมืด

	แล้ว “ขบวนการล่าแม่มด” มันเกี่ยวกับประเทศไทยตรงไหน หรือฝ่าย 
“ขบวนการล้มเจ้า” มั่วเอาศาสนากับสถาบันกษัตริย์มาปนรวมกันแล้วใช้เป็นข้ออ้าง
โจมตีฝ่ายตรงข้าม ประเทศเป็นประชาธิปไตยดีอยู่แล้ว พวก “ขบวนการล้มเจ้า” ที่มี
สมาชิกเป็นพวกคอมมิวนิสต์หัวเก่าคงครึ่งหลับครึ่งตื่นอยู่ในภวังค์ก็พยามสร้างกระแส
ให้คนไทยมีความรู้สึกว่า พ.ร.บ. การกระทำอันเป็นคอมมิวนิสต์ ที่ถูกยกเลิกไปแล้ว ฟื้น
กลับขึ้นมาใหม่ในรูปแบบของ “ขบวนการล่าแม่มด” ใช่ไหม?....

[Geotools-admin] for your amusement

[Jody G. <jod...@gm...>]

Ah nice the shock that we still use svn ...

[12:28pm] jgarnett: (there are some details in the developers guide here - http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/create.html
[12:29pm] awlo: jgarnett: thanks!
[12:28pm] ahhughes_: is geotools still on SVN???
[12:29pm] awlo: ahhughes makes a valid point;)
[12:29pm] jgarnett: ahhughes_: yes; there is however an official github clone you and fork if you like
[12:29pm] jgarnett: currently some of our most productive volunteers are still using svn
[12:29pm] ahhughes_: thats more like it.
[12:29pm] jgarnett: so we formally bridge the gap 
[12:29pm] awlo: jgarnett: official? how do you manage two repos?
[12:29pm] jgarnett: there is a script that pushes any svn changes into the github repo
[12:30pm] jgarnett: and I use git svn myself
[12:31pm] jgarnett: (I have not updated the developers guide to mention the official github thing yet as I have not personally tried it)
[12:31pm] jgarnett: here it is: https://github.com/geotools/geotools
[12:32pm] jgarnett: with the single wiki page have the checkout instructions https://github.com/geotools/geotools/wiki
[12:32pm] awlo: that was very informative chat, thanks guys!
[12:32pm] jgarnett: np


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Jody Garnett

[Geotools-admin] Fw: Replacement of JSR-275 by org.unitsofmeasurement

[Jody G. <jod...@gm...>]

Looks like jar-275 is going to die on us (sigh). Forwarded from geoapi email list... 

-- 
Jody Garnett


Forwarded message:

> Hello all
> 
> JSR-275 has been withdrawn more than one year ago, and we don't know yet if a 
> new JSR would be attempted (the ex-JSR-275 leader is still investigating 
> possibilities). The http://www.unitsofmeasurement.org/ project has been created 
> one year ago as a replacement, and is now implemented by 3 independent products 
> (including one commercial). In order to keep the "javax" space clean, Oracle is 
> investigating the possibilities to remove dead projects like JSR-275 from Maven 
> repositories. We don't know yet if JSR-275 would be removed from Maven Central, 
> since Maven maintainer are reluctant to removing anything from that repository. 
> Nevertheless we copied JSR-275 artifacts to http://maven.geotoolkit.org/ for safety.
> 
> Giving all the above, we have to move away from JSR-275 and I have been told 
> that org.unitsofmeasurement is the best target. If there is no objection, I plan 
> to perform the switch next weekend on GeoAPI trunk. This change would be part of 
> GeoAPI 3.1 release.
> 
> Note that this change was already announced in GeoAPI 3.0 
> (http://www.geoapi.org/3.0/javadoc/overview-summary.html#overview_description). 
> So hopefully, users and implementors will not be too surprised...
> 
> For those we can not switch easily to GeoAPI 3.1, The Geotoolkit.org (http://Geotoolkit.org) project 
> will continue to provide GeoAPI 3.0.0 implementations (together with GeoAPI 3.1 
> implementations) for a while.
> 
> The release date and the exact content of GeoAPI 3.1 is not yet determined. The 
> roadmap will depend on feedback on this mailing list, feedback at OGC meetings, 
> and available resources.
> 
> Martin

Re: [Geotools-admin] website about geotools - project list and commercial support

[Jody G. <jod...@gm...>]

> I suspect the only way to get a good list of projects is to do the leg
> work ourselves.
> 
> 

Well I assume we would do an initial list[1]; and then ask the user list if we missed anyone. 
> > b) if they provide a welcome page we will show the project logo
> 
> 
> 
> Instead of the welcome pages, what do you think about just a single
> page with a list of projects, each having a few lines of text and
> optionally a logo and a small screenshot or other graphic.
> 
> 

That was slightly more work than I wanted to do :-)

I did not want to be responsible for us keeping an up to date description of a project like AtlasStyler.
The only reason I am willing to go out of my way on the welcome pages is because they are focused on
developers and we need volunteers :-)

As for why have a list of projects in the first place? Mostly to show that the library is useful and used.

Jody
[1] http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/geotools_overview.html 

Re: [Geotools-admin] website about geotools - project list and commercial support

[Michael B. <mic...@gm...>]

Hello Jody

> How do people feel about:
> a) just asking people to send a link to the project

I suspect the only way to get a good list of projects is to do the leg
work ourselves.

> b) if they provide a welcome page we will show the project logo

Instead of the welcome pages, what do you think about just a single
page with a list of projects, each having a few lines of text and
optionally a logo and a small screenshot or other graphic. That format
is common in other library sites and is less work to maintain (I'm
assuming that the lack of enthusiasm shown for contributing material
will also apply to keeping it up to date :)

Michael

[Geotools-admin] website about geotools - project list and commercial support

[Jody G. <Jod...@li...>]

A couple months ago I tried ask downstream projects for a "welcome page" introducing their developers (if they have any) to the geotools library. That was not really a success :(

Todays blog post about "GeoBatch" (http://geo-solutions.blogspot.com/2011/10/geobatch-public-demo-available.html) makes me want to try again.

How do people feel about:
a) just asking people to send a link to the project
b) if they provide a welcome page we will show the project logo

On a related note I would like to make our commercial support items more visible (currently they are off in the user guide). I would like to follow the same guidelines; links to organisations offering commercial support; and a company logo if they have a specific geotools page. For example GeoSolutions would qualify as they mention GeoTools on their support page; where as LISAsoft would not.

Cheers,
Jody

Re: [Geotools-admin] trunk docs build

[Justin D. <jde...@op...>]

Oddly enough this problem seems to be fixing itself... so I guess i will
just chalk it up to temporary outages. Let's see if it persists.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Michael Bedward
<mic...@gm...>wrote:

> Just made that same change to the 2.7.x docs build script after it
> reported the same host error. However, I then saw that the javadocs
> build was failing too (same reason) and decided I should stop kludging
> the scripts :)
>
> Michael
>
> On 13 October 2011 11:51, Michael Bedward <mic...@gm...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Justin and all,
> >
> > The trunk docs build was falling over when trying to transfer the zip
> > files to the doc server:
> >
> > + scp -i /home/tomcat/.ssh/id_rsa_geotools web.zip
> > geo...@pr...:/home/geotools/latest
> > ssh: Could not resolve hostname projects.osgeo.osuosl.org: Name or
> > service not known
> > lost connection
> >
> > I could ssh into geotools.org ok but when I tried
> > projects.osgeo.osuosl.org I get:
> >
> > The authenticity of host 'projects.osgeo.osuosl.org (140.211.15.75)'
> > can't be established.
> > RSA key fingerprint is a7:05:f6:a5:02:ec:92:73:4a:0a:12:16:4c:11:e1:1c.
> > Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
> >
> > I've temporarily changed the host name from
> > "projects.osgeo.osuosl.org" to "geotools.org" which seems to have
> > fixed the build.
> >
> > Michael
> >
>
>
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Enterprise support for open source geospatial.

Re: [Geotools-admin] trunk docs build

[Michael B. <mic...@gm...>]

Just made that same change to the 2.7.x docs build script after it
reported the same host error. However, I then saw that the javadocs
build was failing too (same reason) and decided I should stop kludging
the scripts :)

Michael

On 13 October 2011 11:51, Michael Bedward <mic...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi Justin and all,
>
> The trunk docs build was falling over when trying to transfer the zip
> files to the doc server:
>
> + scp -i /home/tomcat/.ssh/id_rsa_geotools web.zip
> geo...@pr...:/home/geotools/latest
> ssh: Could not resolve hostname projects.osgeo.osuosl.org: Name or
> service not known
> lost connection
>
> I could ssh into geotools.org ok but when I tried
> projects.osgeo.osuosl.org I get:
>
> The authenticity of host 'projects.osgeo.osuosl.org (140.211.15.75)'
> can't be established.
> RSA key fingerprint is a7:05:f6:a5:02:ec:92:73:4a:0a:12:16:4c:11:e1:1c.
> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
>
> I've temporarily changed the host name from
> "projects.osgeo.osuosl.org" to "geotools.org" which seems to have
> fixed the build.
>
> Michael
>

[Geotools-admin] trunk docs build

[Michael B. <mic...@gm...>]

Hi Justin and all,

The trunk docs build was falling over when trying to transfer the zip
files to the doc server:

+ scp -i /home/tomcat/.ssh/id_rsa_geotools web.zip
geo...@pr...:/home/geotools/latest
ssh: Could not resolve hostname projects.osgeo.osuosl.org: Name or
service not known
lost connection

I could ssh into geotools.org ok but when I tried
projects.osgeo.osuosl.org I get:

The authenticity of host 'projects.osgeo.osuosl.org (140.211.15.75)'
can't be established.
RSA key fingerprint is a7:05:f6:a5:02:ec:92:73:4a:0a:12:16:4c:11:e1:1c.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?

I've temporarily changed the host name from
"projects.osgeo.osuosl.org" to "geotools.org" which seems to have
fixed the build.

Michael

[Geotools-admin] RFC: Function lookup using qualified Name

[Jody G. <jod...@gm...>]

Just a heads up that a RFC has gone off to the geotools-devel email list for review; this is in the path of the wfs2 merge so it would be good to wrap it up quickly ...

http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS/Function+lookup+using+qualified+Name 

-- 
Jody Garnett

Re: [Geotools-admin] user list posting guide

[Jody G. <jod...@gm...>]

 It looks good :-) Best get it into the code base and then work on it over time.
-- 
Jody Garnett


On Thursday, 6 October 2011 at 11:00 PM, Michael Bedward wrote:

> Jody,
> 
> Added the beginnings of an AboutDialog class to gt-swing:
> https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOT-3882
> 
> Michael

Re: [Geotools-admin] user list posting guide

[Michael B. <mic...@gm...>]

Jody,

Added the beginnings of an AboutDialog class to gt-swing:
https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOT-3882

Michael

Re: [Geotools-admin] user list posting guide

[Michael B. <mic...@gm...>]

Just submitted a patch with a first go at an 'about' method (GEOT-3881).

Andrea, a couple of questions:
- How would you detect whether native jai is installed in a platform
independent way ?
- Can you explain what you meant by the reference to META-INF folders ?

Sorry for dumb questions. I'm having a slow, unproductive,
all-useful-neurons-disabled day / week / year...

Michael

Re: [Geotools-admin] user list posting guide

[Michael B. <mic...@gm...>]

Yes, I really like that idea. I'll have a go at it today unless
someone else has already done it.

Michael

Re: [Geotools-admin] user list posting guide

[Jody G. <jod...@gm...>]

> - maybe we could build a simple geotools script that reports most of the above?
>  Like Geotools.printEnviroment() that dumps down java version, os, wheter native jai
>  is around, geotools version and eventual revision number taken from the jar and so on
>  (with some effort it could even list what gt jars are around looking for the META-INF 
>  folders).
>  This is likely to give us accurate report and people just have to add a line of code
>  to their code. Just an idea, I know coding the above takes time.
> 
> 
> 
> 

Oh great idea; I have wanted to add an GeoTools.showAbout() method for a long time (and call it from JMapFrame) :-) 

Re: [Geotools-admin] user list posting guide

[Andrea A. <and...@ge...>]

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Michael Bedward
<mic...@gm...>wrote:

> Patch attached to this issue:
>
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOT-3879


Look good. I'd add:
- the java version used and if the native JAI / ImageIO native extensions
are installed
  (if they don't know what they are, the answer is likely "no")
- maybe we could build a simple geotools script that reports most of the
above?
  Like Geotools.printEnviroment() that dumps down java version, os, wheter
native jai
  is around, geotools version and eventual revision number taken from the
jar and so on
  (with some effort it could even list what gt jars are around looking for
the META-INF
  folders).
  This is likely to give us accurate report and people just have to add a
line of code
  to their code. Just an idea, I know coding the above takes time.
- hum.... what? No "we'll add piranhas to your bathtub if you don't follow
this guide
  before posting"?

Cheers
Andrea

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GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Tech lead

Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054  Massarosa (LU)
Italy

phone: +39 0584 962313
fax:      +39 0584 962313

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Re: [Geotools-admin] user list posting guide

[Michael B. <mic...@gm...>]

Patch attached to this issue:

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOT-3879

Michael


On 5 October 2011 20:44, Michael Bedward <mic...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi Jody,
>
> I'm finally getting some text together for the posting guide. First go
> should be ready this evening. Would you prefer it to be submitted as a
> patch or just committed to the docs ?
>
> Michael
>

Re: [Geotools-admin] user list posting guide

[Michael B. <mic...@gm...>]

Hi Jody,

I'm finally getting some text together for the posting guide. First go
should be ready this evening. Would you prefer it to be submitted as a
patch or just committed to the docs ?

Michael

Re: [Geotools-admin] foss4g post draft - spelling and slide check

[Jody G. <jod...@gm...>]

 Go ahead and edit; it is only when a post is years old that it is a pain (since it pops back as current in some of the news feeds). 

I actually want to add more links to slides here as they come available; but since it is taking so long .... 

-- 
Jody Garnett


On Tuesday, 4 October 2011 at 12:55 PM, Michael Bedward wrote:

> Hi Jody,
> 
> Went to proofread the post but it has already been published and I
> think I remember you saying that editing a post after it's published
> causes some downstream problems (?) so I've left it alone.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> On 4 October 2011 01:27, Jody Garnett <jod...@gm... (mailto:jod...@gm...)> wrote:
> > I put together a draft "post foss4g post" on blogger which is currently in
> > draft form.
> > Can I ask someone to read over for spelling / links. And yeah if your
> > organisation has placed slides on slide share feel free to add the link(s)
> > as needed.
> > I also thanked some of our code sprint volunteers; but was unable to catch
> > everyone's name :(
> > --
> > Jody Garnett
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a
> > definitive record of customers, application performance, security
> > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
> > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy1
> > _______________________________________________
> > Geotools-administration mailing list
> > Geo...@li... (mailto:Geo...@li...)
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geotools-administration

Re: [Geotools-admin] foss4g post draft - spelling and slide check

[Michael B. <mic...@gm...>]

Hi Jody,

Went to proofread the post but it has already been published and I
think I remember you saying that editing a post after it's published
causes some downstream problems (?) so I've left it alone.

Michael


On 4 October 2011 01:27, Jody Garnett <jod...@gm...> wrote:
> I put together a draft "post foss4g post" on blogger which is currently in
> draft form.
> Can I ask someone to read over for spelling / links. And yeah if your
> organisation has placed slides on slide share feel free to add the link(s)
> as needed.
> I also thanked some of our code sprint volunteers; but was unable to catch
> everyone's name :(
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a
> definitive record of customers, application performance, security
> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy1
> _______________________________________________
> Geotools-administration mailing list
> Geo...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geotools-administration
>
>

Re: [Geotools-admin] user list posting guide

[Michael B. <mic...@gm...>]

On 3 October 2011 22:56, Andrea Aime <and...@ge...> wrote:
> Speaking of using Google to search the docs, this seems to be fitting?
> http://www.google.com/cse/
>

Ah, that's interesting.  I'd seen this one previously...

http://www.google.com/sitesearch/

...which is not free but the CSE one seems to be, or at least I can't
find anything where it says it isn't.

Michael

[Geotools-admin] foss4g post draft - spelling and slide check

[Jody G. <jod...@gm...>]

 I put together a draft "post foss4g post" on blogger which is currently in draft form. 

Can I ask someone to read over for spelling / links. And yeah if your organisation has placed slides on slide share feel free to add the link(s) as needed.

I also thanked some of our code sprint volunteers; but was unable to catch everyone's name :( 

-- 
Jody Garnett

Re: [Geotools-admin] user list posting guide

[Andrea A. <and...@ge...>]

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Michael Bedward
<mic...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi Jody,
>
>> There was a search thing there provided by Sphinx but we have it turned off
>> for our website as we generate our website in parts...
>
> Unfortunately it isn't turned off, ie. the search pages are still
> being generated and published, example:
>
> http://geotools.org/search.html
> http://docs.geotools.org/search.html
>
> I've been trying to work out how to turn it off but it seems to be
> hard-coded into the sphinx html builder :(  I posted a question to the
> sphinx-dev list so hopefully someone can tell us the secret.

Speaking of using Google to search the docs, this seems to be fitting?
http://www.google.com/cse/

Cheers
Andrea


-- 
-------------------------------------------------------
Ing. Andrea Aime
GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Tech lead

Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054  Massarosa (LU)
Italy

phone: +39 0584 962313
fax:      +39 0584 962313

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://geo-solutions.blogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/GeoSolutionsIT
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andreaaime
http://twitter.com/geowolf

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Re: [Geotools-admin] user list posting guide

[Michael B. <mic...@gm...>]

Hi Jody,

> There was a search thing there provided by Sphinx but we have it turned off
> for our website as we generate our website in parts...

Unfortunately it isn't turned off, ie. the search pages are still
being generated and published, example:

http://geotools.org/search.html
http://docs.geotools.org/search.html

I've been trying to work out how to turn it off but it seems to be
hard-coded into the sphinx html builder :(  I posted a question to the
sphinx-dev list so hopefully someone can tell us the secret.

Michael