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So ... I worked the last two days at the GUI ... now it has several nice 
features ... check them out by yourselves ... I'm too tired to write 
them down ;)

Nec

Hey,

I've written a genetic-backend-ebuild :) ... So you can update it every 
time anything changes and you do not have to change any import 
statements in you code, because it is put to a location where a simple 
"import GeneticPortage" will find it ;)

Just put this ebuild into a local overlay and run "ebuild <ebuildname> 
digest" ... after this step you should simply do emerge genetic-backend :)

@buanzo: Could you put in into the download section perhaps?

Regards,
Necoro

So ... I updated to

genetic (/)
|
---- GeneticClient
  |	|
  |	---- GeneticGUI
  |	|
  |	---- GeneticSSH
  |
  ---- GeneticBackend
  	|
  	---- GeneticPortage
  	|
  	---- GeneticShell

@buanzo: Could you please commit your shell :)

So, I currently thought of a "reorganisation" of the somewhat strange 
and troublesome sub-module structure:

My suggestion would be:

Genetic (/)
|
---- Genetic (client)
|	|
|	---- GeneticGUI
|	|
|	---- GeneticSSH
|
---- GeneticBackend
	|
	---- GeneticPortage
	|
	---- GeneticShell

This also produces a consistent name scheme :) ... (which takes into 
account, that python-modules must not have dashes in there name ;))

IdS,
Nec

Hi

As I already mentioned, I had problems with commiting stuff to 
sf.net-svn. After looking around a bit on SF.net-Sites, I found the remark:
"A recent kernel exploit was released that allowed a non admin user to 
escalate privileges on the host pr-shell1. We urge all users who 
frequent this host to change their password immediately and check their 
project group space for any tampering. As a precaution, we have blocked 
access to all project resources by password until the user resets their 
password. After the password has been reset, project resources should be 
accessible within 5 minutes."

So ... after changing my password, everything worked again as it should 
... just wanted to inform you :)

IdS
Nec

Necoro d.M. wrote:
> I'm currently working on package dependency calculation now. As there is
> nothing implemented in gentoolkit for it, it's quite a hard job ... So
> it might take a few days :)

So ... finished it ^^ ... After writing my own (mostly working)
function, I found a portage function doing all the work -.- ...

Furthermore, I added "find_best_package" which returns the best package
you can install on you system.

I can't upload it to svn at the moment ... (sf.net does not let me auth
in svn -.-)

I'm currently working on package dependency calculation now. As there is
nothing implemented in gentoolkit for it, it's quite a hard job ... So
it might take a few days :)

Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:

>>> sounds ok to me, but that's an awful lot of packages to list. It is of
>>> my opinion to first select the category, then the packages get listed
>>> for the selected category. Anyone else have a comment on this? Should
>>> it be all packages listed together, or all categories, then all
>>> packages in the selected categor{y/ies}?
> 
> 11106 packages to be exact. Yes. That's a lot.
> 
> Okey, why don't we only list the categories in one column, and in a big box, a list of packages in
> that categories, much like:
> 
> [status] name - description?

This is a good idea ... and the only useful too :) ... Because loading
_all_ packages at the beginning takes about 2-3 minutes ;) (this might
be a little bit exaggerated - but it felt like ages ;D ) ...

So .. I do now have an own sf.net-page: sf.net/projects/geneticone ...
There in the svn you can find the actual sourcecode. :)

Some more updates today:

1.) I rewrote "list-categories" to use gentoolkit.settings.categories
2.) I have overridden the gentoolkit.Package.is_masked()-method, because
it did not work properly.
3.) I added a Package.get_cp() method, which just returns the string
<category>/<name>

IdS
Nec

:P

On 7/10/06, Necoro d.M. <ge...@pr...> wrote:
> I think, the word "fork" is just not the right one ;) ... it is more of
> "another project which just happens to use genetic as a library" ;)
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I think, the word "fork" is just not the right one ;) ... it is more of
"another project which just happens to use genetic as a library" ;)

Funny.

On 7/10/06, Necoro d.M. <ge...@pr...> wrote:
> I simply take my ViM ... open a python file and code some pygtk-code :).

Xrc works, too. Well, I'm glad you talked about a fork of the gui,
then. Coding the gui with straight pygtk sounds cool, anyway.

We will use xrc, and the genetic-shell will make use of the cookies module.

bye.

Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
> On 7/9/06, Necoro d.M. <ge...@pr...> wrote:
>> This point was clear ... but it produces more overhead then I thought...
>> Perhaps "fork" is a bad word here ^^ ... specialization makes it clearer ;D
> 
> How do you plan to develop the GUI, then?

I simply take my ViM ... open a python file and code some pygtk-code :).
And it works ;)

On 7/9/06, Necoro d.M. <ge...@pr...> wrote:
> This point was clear ... but it produces more overhead then I thought...
> Perhaps "fork" is a bad word here ^^ ... specialization makes it clearer ;D

How do you plan to develop the GUI, then?

Hi!

I added the "list_categories" function to the cookies. This function
takes an optional name and returns a list of all categories matching
.*name.* or - if name is not given - all categories.

IdS
Nec

Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
> necoro,
> 
> as long as you write an xrc-based GUI, your work will continue to be useful
> for the project. I'm working on a python module and a genetic-shell for all
> client-server communication and data transference.

See - I think XRC is nice for the original Genetic-Idea (multiplatform)
- but it's just overhead for the local one ;)
> 
> if you want to create a gui and using genetic-cookies but not help in any
> way (i.e xrc-gui), then go ahead, too :P

I will help :) ... I'll still work on the genetic-cookies-part ... and
maybe also the genetic-shell ;) ... (and perhaps even more)

> too bad you are already thinking in a fork when we had settled form the
> start up that genetic should was going to be a multiplatform client-server
> based (over ssh, that means localhost too) portage frontend.

This point was clear ... but it produces more overhead then I thought...
Perhaps "fork" is a bad word here ^^ ... specialization makes it clearer ;D

> thanks anyway.

Hey ... I won't leave ;)

IdS
Nec

necoro,

as long as you write an xrc-based GUI, your work will continue to be useful
for the project. I'm working on a python module and a genetic-shell for all
client-server communication and data transference.

if you want to create a gui and using genetic-cookies but not help in any
way (i.e xrc-gui), then go ahead, too :P

too bad you are already thinking in a fork when we had settled form the
start up that genetic should was going to be a multiplatform client-server
based (over ssh, that means localhost too) portage frontend.

thanks anyway.

On 7/9/06, Necoro d.M. <ge...@pr...> wrote:
>
> And say what ^^ ... I just realized that some nice portage-functions are
> missing in the moment in genetic-cookies. The find_all_packages() is way
> to slow at the moment. And there is no function to get all categories
> a.s.o.  I think I'll spend some time on implementing them :)
>
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And say what ^^ ... I just realized that some nice portage-functions are
missing in the moment in genetic-cookies. The find_all_packages() is way
to slow at the moment. And there is no function to get all categories
a.s.o.  I think I'll spend some time on implementing them :)

Hey ^^

we are in our planning phase - but nevertheless, I think I'll do a
project fork called "Genetic/One".
It'll be only for the local maintainance of the portage tree (i.e. a
normal portage-GUI), but I'll use the genetic-cookies as the
portage-interface :)

Why did I do this:

I always wanted a nice portage GUI (and there is none atm) and I thought
 Genetic might be a good one. But in the moment we are waiting for
features I do not see as essential (e.g. the XRC-blah). Additionally I
want to gain some pyGtk-experiences ;)

So far,
Ren=E9

Sorry

that's something massimo and I probably didn't post into this list: we will
not be supporting a console-based genetic client for windows, only a GUI
one.

Sincerely,
Arturo

On 7/9/06, Necoro d.M. <ge...@pr...> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> as buanzo has already mentioned, there are some problems with windows
> and pexpect. As I was googling around today to find sth about ncurses
> and XRC I read, that there is no ncurses under windows (i.e. the
> curses-module won't work there).
>
> Thereby: Do we really want to make it run under Windows?
>
> IdS,
> Nec
>
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Hi there,

as buanzo has already mentioned, there are some problems with windows
and pexpect. As I was googling around today to find sth about ncurses
and XRC I read, that there is no ncurses under windows (i.e. the
curses-module won't work there).

Thereby: Do we really want to make it run under Windows?

IdS,
Nec

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OK,

We desperately need a GUI Designer. Jon Hood had some personal/work issues and he believes he may
not have time to contribute to the project.

So, we need to find someone who can write down the XRCs for this project.

Any ideas to gather people? I may repost at source-forge's "help wanted", but some of you may have
better ideas.

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Le Tue, 04 Jul 2006 16:23:02 -0300,
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <bu...@bu...> a =E9crit :

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> Necoro d.M. wrote:
> > Hmmm ... seems that everybody's dead ... :) *waiting for tasks*
>=20
> I was just waiting for some input from the GUI guys, and from dams
> regarding XRC-for-ncurses.

I'm currently at the LSM, libre software meeting, an OSS/FSF event in
france

I'm helding the gentoo booth. So not a lot of time for genetic :)

Plus, I'll probably have some job issue, so I don't know if I'll be
able to cope everything together. We'll see.

>=20
> In the meantime, I'm struggling with some pexpect-patches for better
> windows support. If that doesn't work out, we can:
>=20
> a) use something different for windows, and pexpect for POSIX oses
> (linux, bsd, etc). b) use own code for same purpose.
> c) create a server-side genetic-shell that better suits our
> data-transfer and controlling needs. d) I don't know, what does the
> rest of the active team think?
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