Re: [Algorithms] Wireframe Editor/Vertex Output

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Well, I took a look at Nendo, and it looks great, but it's a bit too much.  
I want something simple, down 'n dirty.  So, I guess I'll just make my own, 
nothing fancy or anything, but hopefully it'll have enough power to give me 
meshes (correct terminology to please unnamed people *CoughAkbarCough*) in a 
text file.  If there's anyone else out there that has some advice to offer, 
I'd appreciate it, especially because I work almost exclusively with 
Direct3D and not too much with OpenGL...  I think I've got the basics down 
but I'm having some problems with having multiple views in the same window 
at the same time... Okay, I put a simple wireframe at the origin.  I want a 
3-D view on the right side of the window.  I also want to make three 2-D 
views on the left, one for each axis.  Whenever I render in the 3-D view, I 
do:

  glBegin(GL_TRIANGLES);
   Draw whatever I need to...
  glEnd();

  Then:  SwapBuffers(hDC);

hDC is the device context for the parent window(and the only window), so 
SwapBuffers(hDC) draws over the entire window.  I want to avoid using more 
than 1 DC, but I still need the 3 2-D views in addition to the 3-D view.  I 
guess my question is, is there a different approach to where I can have more 
than I view on a DC, or should I just create multiple "dummy" windows within 
my main window, give each one a WindowDC, and call SwapBuffers on each of 
them?  If I do use window DCs, do I have to initialize GL for all of them, 
or do they all share from the parent window?

Thanks Again,
Neil Frick
mf...@ho...

>Mmm... I see... Thanks, I'll have a look into it. :)
>
>Neil Frick
>
>
>>From: Jeff Lander <je...@di...>
>>Reply-To: gda...@li...
>>To: gda...@li...
>>Subject: Re: [Algorithms] Wireframe Editor/Vertex Output
>>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:57:20 -0800
>>
>>I make quite a bit of custom tools myself and think for many purposes they
>>are very useful.  Level editing is a good example (though Maya is getting
>>pretty good at this now).  I don't believe a custom tool is a real good
>>option for model building though.  You will spend way more time trying to
>>create a decent UI then it will be worth.  Particularly if you want to
>>animate your models.
>>
>>For cheap nice little modelers, I would suggest Nendo from Nichimen.  Good
>>little modeler with some really nice features like 3D paint.  You can't
>>really beat it at $99.  Tons of import and export options.
>>www.nichimen.com
>>
>>There are also tons of modeling programs available on the net though I
>>wouldn't vouch for them myself.
>>
>>If you are determined to role you own, you could certainly cobble together
>>a decent 3D modeller using random pieces of OpenGL code and techniques on
>>my website.  I haven't really even needed to actually build models in my
>>tools (preferring good interfaces myself) it wouldn't be too hard.
>>www.darwin3d.com/gamedev.htm (I would take the 3D paint and texture
>>projection, skinning, and motion capture samples and roll them all 
>>together
>>with some nice frosting).
>>
>>-Jeff
>>
>>At 11:24 PM 11/17/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>> >Gents,
>> >
>> >I'm looking for a simple program that will allow me to create/manipulate
>>wireframes and save the positions of each vertices to a text file.  No .X
>>files or lightwave or anything... just a list of the positions of 
>>vertices.
>> >All I want is to be able to make simple wireframes with tris, mess 
>>around
>>with them, then get a file with a list of the x, y, and z positions of 
>>each
>>vertex when I'm done...  I really don't want to take the time to code
>>something up on my own, but I do want an easier way to figure out 3d 
>>points
>>then the one I'm using now (old fashioned pencil and paper).  Anyone know
>>if such a thing exists?  Or should I just stop complaining, whip out the 
>>Dx
>>and OpenGL books and get cracking?
>> >
>> >Thanks in advance,
>> >Neil Frick
>> >mf...@ho...
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