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Anobium
2022-01-31
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  • stan cartwright

    stan cartwright - 2023-01-06

    synwrite flash hex and same file flash hex in latest gcstudio ... 57 seconds
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwrmIX-K9AA

     
    • Anobium

      Anobium - 2023-01-07

      Is 57s good or bad?

       
  • stan cartwright

    stan cartwright - 2023-01-07

    Why is synwrite flash hex 6X faster than gcstudio flash hex for same file?
    Is all the scrolling info necessary?
    Testing code needs a quick turn around to see results.

     
    • Anobium

      Anobium - 2023-01-07

      Use the Prefs Editor to turn off the Verbose Messages. Then, it will be just as fast.

       
      • stan cartwright

        stan cartwright - 2023-01-07

        Thank you.
        It was open file
        click programmer preferences
        click preferences
        Uncheck verbose box

        should it be set off by default?

         
        • Anobium

          Anobium - 2023-01-07
           
          • stan cartwright

            stan cartwright - 2023-01-07

            Good video but is gcstudio getting complicated?
            I had to use synwrite because I copied code from your link but could not find a way to paste it.
            no new file paste like synwrite.

             
            • Anobium

              Anobium - 2023-01-07

              Where was the new file paste in SynWrite?

               
              • stan cartwright

                stan cartwright - 2023-01-07

                file
                new
                paste to blank screen

                 
                • Anobium

                  Anobium - 2023-01-08

                  Very similar in GC Code,

                  file/new text file/paste to blank screen

                  If you save as GCB then you get the features of the GCB extension, or, you can change the language mode to GCB.

                   
                  • Anobium

                    Anobium - 2023-01-08

                    Creating a new file in GC Code using cut and paste operations.

                     
            • Anobium

              Anobium - 2023-01-07

              New features like AutoComplete (it was totally disabled as it crashed SynWrite) and fast access to the Help was not available in SynWrite. So, features that work will are a benefit in my view.

               
  • Chris Roper

    Chris Roper - 2023-01-07

    Good video but is gcstudio getting complicated?

    Yes, it is Microsoft Visual Studio with GCBASIC added on.

    We would have been better off porting GCBASIC to MPLABX if we wanted a blotted IDE as most PIC and AVR users already have it installed.

    But instead we have now ruled out all of the 3rd world users that work on hand me down PC's in townships or school shacks.

    GCBASIC still works on any PC but forcing Visual Studio 64bit as the only interface that gets updated is throwing the baby out with the bath water.

    But as I am already persona non grata around here for my views I will retreat to the shadows again.

     
    • stan cartwright

      stan cartwright - 2023-01-07

      I expect a telling off for posting gcstudio user feedback but feedback is asked for.
      There may be a way to paste copied code but it's not obvious.
      I never used mplabx or would want to. Way too complicated and I only use "Arduino" uno,nano or lgt328 not pic.
      If it's 64bit only then win 7 32bit using synwrite from gcstudio will end. And synwrite in gcstudio still crashes.
      I don't like the idea that gcstudio will replace gcb but you could ask for your money back :)

      I got visual studio on rpi400 if it's the same and gcb terminal mode no ide sorted eg geany.
      in theory...

       
    • Anobium

      Anobium - 2023-01-07

      A few corrections.

      Yes, it is Microsoft Visual Studio with GCBASIC added on.

      It is NOT Microsoft Visual Studio. This is the Open Source Visual Studio CODE.EXE development with Extension Manager.

      We would have been better off porting GCBASIC to MPLABX if we wanted a blotted IDE as most PIC and AVR users already have it installed.

      We can do that already. See PIC-AS with GCB videos on YouTube.

      But instead we have now ruled out all of the 3rd world users that work on hand me down PC's in townships or school shacks.

      We have not. GCStudio as the Update Manager and SynWrite are supported.

      GCBASIC still works on any PC but forcing Visual Studio 64bit as the only interface that gets updated is throwing the baby out with the bath water.

      GC Studio and GC Code are 32-bit applications.

       

      Last edit: Anobium 2023-01-08
  • stan cartwright

    stan cartwright - 2023-01-07

    "But instead we have now ruled out all of the 3rd world users that work on hand me down PC's in townships or school shacks."

    learn c+ or python on arduino or picomite and mmbasic

     
    • Anobium

      Anobium - 2023-01-07

      "But instead we have now ruled out all of the 3rd world users that work on hand me down PC's in townships or school shacks.

      No we have not ruled out the 3trd World. GCStudio with SynWrite works on old OS's. If SynWrite 'still' creashes then that is not something I have any influence in resolving - SynWrite is not supported by the developer.

       
  • stan cartwright

    stan cartwright - 2023-01-07

    synwrite under gcstudio seems the same. Any code errors and it greys out and asks if windows can fix it. yawn.
    why not just keep using gcb as it's smaller file size and doesn't need an interface to use it?
    I liked gcstudio because the dark theme editor did not crash but if you got to use syn write then what's the point except auto updates?
    Someone sort the Geaney option out the box ie in install, option to install geany and it's in the ide list so if chosen just works

     
    • Anobium

      Anobium - 2023-01-08

      re Geany. All the ground work is done. This means we need time and some one with a passion to complete the Geany configuration. I may get to it sometime in the next few months.

       
  • Angel Mier

    Angel Mier - 2023-01-08

    To add to this. I'm a person that lives in a real 3rd world country to say the least; and here, I don't know one person ranging from students to professionals that didn't own a PC with enough juice to run GCstudio and GCcode.

    And I will shoot back with an other point of view:

    How you people that live on first world country's with access to top technology and have proper and well paid jobs can rant about this?

    Windows XP is from 2001 (22 years ago)
    Windows 7 is from 2009 (14 years ago)

    How did you in a first world country can be competitive as a professional with a LEGACY software?

    I don't get it.

    If some "professional" person crosses the door of your business and he recommends an unsupported software of 10 to 20 years a go, you hire him? (I don't; not even in my wildest dream)

    How you expect support on an Unsupported platform? when all developers focus on current and future ones?

    And all this old software version thing is a trap also, a few examples to set my point:

    • I have an old PC collecting dust, desktop intel i7 2600k (From 2011) RUNS windows 11 like a piece of cake.
    • Microsoft Surface Pro first Generation intel i5 3317u (From 2012) currently used and abused taking topographic surveys all day on the thermo-nuclear sun here; and, runs windows 11 hands down (to say that it received free updates of the OS on all their service life)
    • Worst case scenario Think Pad t420 i5 2520M (From 2011) running Windows 10 and helping on the lab on the Ham Radio and testing GCstudio too (and I can assure it can run win11)

    All this hardware are 10+ years old and run GCstudio no problems; and runs it well.

    Even if you have an old Pentium 4 that is 23 year old, it runs GC Studio; I have done that for testing.

    So yes, I have tested GC Studio from an old Pentium 4 (2000) to an i9 12900k (2022) and doing so in probably the worst 3rd world country you can think of.

    So please excuse me if I think that some ideas are unfounded excuses.

    Angel.

     
    • Kato

      Kato - 2023-01-08

      Everything is good on my '3rd world' Dell D620 laptop circa 2006.

      Thank you for making GCB better

       
  • stan cartwright

    stan cartwright - 2023-01-08

    I was going to post my thoughts but changed my mind.

     
  • stan cartwright

    stan cartwright - 2023-01-09

    After watching Anobium github guide I found that click spanner then GCcode, I could paste a file copied to clipboard but seems it needs saving but it's all gone weird.
    Shut down GCS and reopen and it opened the pasted file.
    Played around and messed everything.
    So many meaningless options.
    Cannot get it to paste again.
    GCS is too complicated for me. Maybe a lite version for those who don't need all the scrolling lists of unknown option commands.

     
    • Anobium

      Anobium - 2023-01-09

      Video what you are doing. Thanks.

       
  • Chris Roper

    Chris Roper - 2023-01-09

    Despite the denial, GCstudio is based on the Microsoft Open Sourced Visual Studio Code with the Microsoft extension manager.

    It is in fact an excellent tool in the hands of competent programmers that have a degree in computer science. If you work in teams and have to use project automaton, versioning and archival functionality on projects with thousands of lines of code and 10's of programmers it is a god send.

    Unfortunately it misses the fact that GSBasic is a tool used by electronics hobbyists with no formal training who are only interested in writing 50 to a 100 lines of code and are perfectly capable of making their own backups.

    Find a decent text editor, I use Notepad++ (even on Android) or stick with synwrite.
    Alternatively, if you have the time and inclination, enroll for a degree in software engineering.

     
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