RE: [GD-Consoles] question: Embedded scripting language on console
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RE: [GD-Consoles] question: Embedded scripting language on console
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From: Mark W. <Mwa...@to...> - 2003-02-19 03:52:48
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You pretty much answered it with "create a game object" rather than exposing some of your lower level systems. Pretty obvious stuff, but some scripters want more and more power - I was just wondering at what level you restricted this. Mark. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mick West [mailto:mi...@ne...] > Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2003 2:05 PM > To: gam...@li... > Subject: RE: [GD-Consoles] question: Embedded scripting language on > console >=20 >=20 > Well now, that depends on how you look at it. >=20 > The meshes are rendered by the rendering engine, but the=20 > object that is > comprised of meshes is created and modified by script. For=20 > example, the > skater is comprised of several meshes with various scales,=20 > materials and > colors, all of which is controlled by script. >=20 > The scripts could not render a mesh in isolation, and I can't see why > you would want to. But they could create a game object that just > comprised of a mesh component, which is essentially the same=20 > thing, just > with some useful framework.=20 >=20 > Maybe I'm not understanding your question? =20 >=20 > Mick >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: gam...@li...=20 > > [mailto:gam...@li...] On=20 > > Behalf Of Mark Wayland > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:35 PM > > To: gam...@li... > > Subject: RE: [GD-Consoles] question: Embedded scripting=20 > > language on console > >=20 > >=20 > > Mick, > >=20 > > At what level do access your game objects/classes? Can a=20 > > script perform something like rendering a mesh or is it=20 > > completely game object centric? > >=20 > > Cheers, > > Mark > >=20 > >=20 > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mick West [mailto:mi...@ne...] > > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2003 5:15 AM > > > To: gam...@li... > > > Subject: RE: [GD-Consoles] question: Embedded scripting=20 > language on=20 > > > console > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > We (Neversoft) discussed this at some length when starting=20 > > our first=20 > > > game for the PS2. There was some movement towards using a=20 > > > pre-existing script language (Java was mentioned). However=20 > > I decided=20 > > > we should roll > > > our own, as we'd need control over what it was doing. > > >=20 > > > I'm now insanely glad we did this. The fine control we get over=20 > > > debugging, memory usage and performance is invaluable. =20 > > Those kind of=20 > > > things may be less of a consideration on the PC, where you=20 > > have memory=20 > > > and CPU cycles to spare. But on the PS2, I feel that if=20 > > we'd used a=20 > > > pre-existing language, then we would have had a lot more=20 > > trouble than=20 > > > we did. > > >=20 > > > It does not take that long either. We shipped THPS3 less=20 > > than a year=20 > > > after we started programming our scripting language. > > >=20 > > > Of course, YMMV, it depends on what you use the script > > > language for. We > > > have over 4MB of script, and a lot of the game's high=20 > level logic is > > > running in script, and a lot of the high level data is held=20 > > in script > > > data structures. > > >=20 > > > Anyway, the original questioner intends to generate their=20 > > scripts from=20 > > > UML diagrams. This approach is inherently doomed, so the actual=20 > > > choice of script language is irrelevant. > > >=20 > > > Mick > > >=20 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: gam...@li... > > > > [mailto:gam...@li...] On=20 > > > > Behalf Of Ron Hay > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:04 AM > > > > To: gam...@li... > > > > Subject: Re: [GD-Consoles] question: Embedded scripting=20 > > > > language on console > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > Has anyone on the list actually thought deeply about which > > > scripting > > > > language they choose? If > > > > so, care to share your thoughts? We're in the middle of > > > choosing the > > > > language, and Lua seems > > > > to be our current top pick. The team member that is in=20 > charge of > > > > scripting is the type of person > > > > that just likes to pick and go, so I'm worried that there=20 > > may be a=20 > > > > better alternative out there... > > > >=20 > > > > Ron > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gamedevlists-consoles mailing list=20 > > > > Gam...@li... > > > >=20 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gamedevlists-consoles > > > Archives:=20 > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?> forum_id=3D553 > > >=20 >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > Gamedevlists-consoles mailing list=20 > > Gam...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gamedevlists-consoles > > Archives: = http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=3D553 > >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. 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