RE: [GD-Consoles] question: Embedded scripting language on console

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You should carefully consider the technical abilities of your designers=

when making this decision.

From personal experience, and observing other projects; the more like a=

full-blown programming language your scripting system is, the more like=
ly
the programmers will end up writing the actual scripts. If programmers =
are
going to be scripting, why not just let them use the same language the
engine is written in?

Of course, I may just have had primarily non-technial designer experien=
ces.
From the "heated debate" on the algorithms list a couple of weeks back,=

it's safe to assume that there are more technical designers out there, =
so
your mileage will almost certainly vary.

Cheers,
Phil

PS I do wonder why Lisp seems to be such a popular language to base cus=
tom
solutions on though (both Halo and Jak & Daxter). Most programmers I kn=
ow
get headaches from Lisp syntax that I thought would fry the average
designer. Is there something I'm missing?




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Hello  Lagarde

On one  of our past games, we=A0used Java & C++.=A0 The main issues we =
ran
into were:
-  Duplicated entity structs in both Java & C++.
- The  run-time performance of switching back to and forth was  expensi=
ve.
- The  designers just didn't have the experience writing solid, fast co=
de,
compared to  the years the programmers did.

Needless to say, we'll be looking at a scripting system very carefully
before going back to it.=A0 We're leaning towards programmers writting
everything in C++, but with more of a data driven approach.

If I'm  not mistaken, one of the Jax and Dextor games used a lisp  syst=
em.
(Check=A0the post mortem's in Game Developer).=A0There was an  older ga=
me,
Abuse, by Dave Taylor's crack.dot that was written in Lisp as well.

Cheers
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From: Lagarde  S=E9bastien [mailto:Lag...@wa...]
Sent: Monday, February 17,  2003 5:33 PM
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Subject: [GD-Consoles]  question: Embedded scripting language on consol=
e



I looking for some information on existing  embedded scripting language=
 on
console (ps2, gc).

My goal is to design some behavior with UML state  diagram then generat=
ing
the code for the
scripting language. I have found that Java or  python are=A0appropriate=

language=A0(with rational rose , together soft  etc...)
but after some research i have this  result:

java is use in Vampire the masquarade base on  embedded java language a=
nd
JNI. But no information
on other game (PC or console).
Is java interpreter (jvm) can be support on  console because the lack o=
f
ressource ?

python is use in many PC game , again i found  only few console game ba=
se
on python scripting
but i think some use it.

I want use a popular existing language in order  to each new team membe=
r
are quickly functionnal
so no proprietary language.

In last is multithreading in scripting language  (like java)=A0can be e=
mulate
on console
for a real-time game ?


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