RE: [GD-Consoles] new to console programming...

[Tom F. <to...@mu...>]

A large amount of technical info has been released by Sony about the PS2 to
the public, including fairly detailed discussion of its rendering
capabilities, so the feeling is that most PS2 discussion is fine. There has
been at least one article in Develop magazine about an extremely technical
aspect of the console. And the "PS2 linux" setup that they're selling in
Japan will come with what is essentially all the current hardware manuals.
So I think it's unlikely Sony will object to fairly detailed discussions on
lists like this.

Xbox - for rendering capabilities, it's basically a GF3 with some tweaked
drivers that are a bit closer to the metal than a normal DX driver. So
there's no reason people can't discuss techniques on that - it's a GF3, but
you know exactly what it's doing. And the rest of the machine is just a
well-integrated PC with some well-known differences (not much memory, no
Windows GUI, unified memory, etc)

I know nothing about GameCube, and Nintendo will probably send squads of
ninja with tac-nukes to kill anyone talking about it.

And general algos and so on are applicable on any console of course.

It'll probably still be quite quiet though :-)

Tom Forsyth - Muckyfoot bloke.

What's he up to now (and can I have a go)?
http://www.eidosinteractive.com/downloads/search.html?gmid=86

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alistair Milne [mailto:kr...@kr...]
> Sent: 03 October 2001 00:13
> To: gam...@li...
> Subject: RE: [GD-Consoles] new to console programming...
> 
> 
> Hi Marcin.
> 
> Like the other poster said, most of the interesting stuff is 
> under NDA so we
> can't talk about it unless you are too.  Once you do get 
> access to the 'good
> stuff', the samples you get with the toolchain 
> (/usr/local/sce/sample) are a
> good launch-pad to give you a general idea how the various 
> subsystems work,
> and once you are up and running they are good reference 
> material when you're
> tackling a specific problem.  Going further, the SCEA support 
> website is a
> good place to go for more advanced examples, and for other 
> useful snippets
> of code and documentation.  Browsing the conference papers on 
> the website is
> a useful way to get into it quickly.  There are also 
> newsgroups for NDA
> signees where tons of problem solving goes on.
> 
> Basically, we can't say much about it in detail unless you've 
> signed the
> NDA, sorry.
> 
> Incidentally, what is this group supposed to be for, 
> considering we can't
> discuss any technical details without breaking contracts?  
> Console game
> design paradigms versus other platforms?  Optimum controller 
> layouts?  I can
> see it getting stale pretty quickly...
> 
> Alistair
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gam...@li...
> > 
[mailto:gam...@li...]On Behalf Of
> Marcin Wieczorek
> Sent: 02 October 2001 19:03
> To: gam...@li...
> Subject: [GD-Consoles] new to console programming...
>
>
> Hi,
>
> 	I'm new to console programming, namely PS2, and I was
> wondering if anyone
> could point me to some resources on the net where I can read up on maybe
> general programming techniques and such.
>
> 	We recently had the Gamasutras PS2 article float around the office
> (http://www.gamasutra.com/gdce/green/green_01.htm )and I was wondering if
> maybe there are some other articles like this one that will give
> me a better
> understanding of the console before I actually sit down and start typing.
>
> Does anyone have any opinions about the above mentioned article?  Is it a
> good thing for a beginner to engrave in his head?  Pitfalls that
> I should be
> aware?
>
> I don't want this to turn into a why xbox programming is easier
> and I should
> do that' topic.  My company is looking into making a title for PS2 and I
> need as much basic knowledge of the machine as possible.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Marcin
>
>
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