Re: [GD-General] How I hate recruitment agencies within any industry especially games...

[Joe C. <dar...@ya...>]

Hmm... sounds pretty sketchy. That happened to my
father. supposedly the recruiter accidently sent his
resume to his then current employer and he was fired
for looking around. He managed to get lost wages from
the recruiter... 

--- phi...@pl... wrote:
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> Personally I'd avoid using a recruitment agency, I
> think they're at about
> the same level as estate agents.
> 
> One of the larger uk ones has the dubious reputation
> of informing on people
> who are making inquiries through them. AS in; you're
> pissed off with your
> company, and phone said agency to see if there's
> anything interesting
> going. Said agent then tells your boss (with whom
> he/she does a lot of
> business) that you're looking to leave. Presumably
> hoping to a: field a
> replacement, and b: get you into the job market
> faster, racking up two
> comissions in the process.
> 
> Cheers,
> Phil
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject:     Re: [GD-General] How I hate recruitment
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> Take the time to put together a good resume and a
> demo or art reel (demo in
> your case). Buy Edge magazine for a couple months
> since many UK houses ad
> there. Do your homework and put together a list of
> companies that you would
> want to work for, check their websites, find their
> addresses and contact
> infos, mail company employees whose emails you find
> in public forums like
> this one (ONLY as a last resort, always politely and
> concisely, and only
> ONCE whether you get an answer or not). Then send
> copies of your resume and
> demo/reel, along with personalized letters
> explaining what makes you
> interested in working for each specific company.
> 
> Doing all this hard(er) work will pay off, and it'll
> be a good warmup since
> once you land the job, you'll be working quite hard
> anyway. :)
> 
> As for recruitment companies, I don't know nor care.
> I guess they have
> their
> place since people and companies use their services,
> it's up to each one to
> decide if the time & hassle saved is worth the money
> paid. No need to call
> them names, at least not before you have proven your
> own worth methinks.
> 
> Javier Arevalo
> Pyro Studios
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anon Pie" <an...@ho...>
> 
> 
> > At the moment I'm looking for a new programming
> job within the (UK) games
> > industry (Well I'm beginning to wonder if I should
> do something else
> > instead) and I'm part playing with the fun that is
> recruitment agents.  I
> > really do hate them.  If they place me the lucky
> company will have to
> shell
> > out ~25% of the offered salary to the agency after
> I've been there three
> > months.  This has the effect of driving down the
> salary I will be offered
> > which sucks.
> >
> > So why use a recruitment agency?  The simple
> reason why I find myself
> being
> > thrown back into that trap when I move jobs is
> because there is no single
> > one place where I can find a list of 'real' jobs
> currently available -
> plus
> > some companies do not have the time or resources
> to advertise properly.
> Yeh
> > you can see job listings on the internet but I can
> guarantee the majority
> do
> > not exist and have been placed as bait by agents. 
> This is an appalling
> > situation.
> >
> > I have not yet seen or heard of one example where
> an agent has been
> anywhere
> > remotely worth the ~25% they charge.  I find it
> sickening.  All they have
> > ever done is get in the way and lose me jobs by
> not responding quickly
> > enough - or by reformating my CV - Ever turned up
> for an interview and
> found
> > that the company has an altered form of your CV
> with the wording
> changed? -
> > this is especially great when an agent assumes
> that his/her technical
> > knowledge is far superior and rewords jargon so it
> no longer makes any
> sense
> > or infact creates new words that have no
> meaning...
> >
> > Every time I'm called in for an interview that
> turns out to be with an
> agent
> > I find it immensely frustrating - as if this guy
> sat in front of me is
> > really is able to fathom my knowledge of C++,
> assembly language and 3d
> > experience!  And as if he was there until 3am the
> other day doing 'just
> one
> > more room' in Dungeon Siege or fragging someones
> ass online.  They're
> > vultures who provide nothing more than a rip-off
> introductory service and
> > then proceed to pop up in an annoying manor
> afterwards.
> >
> > It's annoyed me so much I'm actually thinking of
> setting up my own games
> > recruitment agency (eek!).  As far as I can see it
> a decent agency should
> > provide:
> >
> > 1) A web service where companies can advertise
> directly for a standard
> > decent advertising rate.  ie: candidates can go to
> one central place and
> > find a list of jobs currently available and
> actually have decent details
> on
> > them and who they're for and how to contact the
> company involved
> *directly*.
> >
> > 2) A premier service where employers can ask the
> agency to filter
> candidates
> > as they simply don't have the time and resources
> to see everyone.  But
> the
> > filtering service would be provided by people like
> me 
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