Re: [GD-General] Eiffel

[J C L. <cl...@ka...>]

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:13:32 -0800 
phil wilkins <phi...@pl...> wrote:
> J C Lawrence <cl...@ka...>:
>> Thatcher Ulrich <tu...@tu...> wrote:

>>> These days emacs knows a lot, straight out of the box.  It knows
>>> about RCS and CVS, it knows how to indent and highlight various
>>> languages, how to run a build tool and bring you to the errors,
>>> how to run a source-level debugger, how to auto-complete.  It's
>>> got rectangle modes, outline modes, text modes, spell checkers,
>>> yadda yadda.

>> FWLIW those things have been true for at least 6 years, and I
>> think closer to 8.

> At least 13. I used to live in emacs, read mail, news, code,
> debug, everything.

Yup.  I know most of it is close to 15 years old -- going back
almost to the old TECO days.  I thought some of the code
highlighting and syntax detection and such was a bit younger tho.
I'm pretty sure much of the more interesting ispell/aspell
integration was only done around 5 or 6 years ago.

<shrug>

>> Conversely, my approach is to make the tools adapt to me.

> Which is fine, right up until the point where you have to some
> work on someone elses machine, or vice versa.

I remember enough of the defaults to work on a base system, if
somewhat haltingly.  If I really have to work on another's system I
bring over my environment (remember its under source control and
accessible from anywhere, or I just SSH back to my own box).

Then again, why would you ever have to work on someone else's
machine?  (Note: It hasn't happened to me for at least 3 years,
probably longer) Given decent network transparent tools it almost
never happens.  About the only reason you should ever need to leave
your own system (and thus stop your but growing that attractive
secretarial spread) is if you need physical hardware access to the
target box or something attached to it.

  You've got the network.  Use it.  

SSH X11 forwarding and X11's native network transparency make this
all particularly easy.  If you want a bit more portability (and have
a somewhat trusted network) use XDM chooser.  Don't have to kick
anybody off.  Just run XDM on a couple of VTs letting the main user
use the default and leaving :1 open for drop-ins.

-- 
J C Lawrence                
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