RE: [GD-Linux] ANSI/ISO C++

[Matt D. <ma...@co...>]

I would like to use the techniques used in Modern C++ Design and the Loki
library.  This is however impossible as MSVC (my only current compiler) does
not support partial template specialisation or template template parameters
(when are they going to get their act together on this).

I hoped that perhaps GCC (on Linux) would support templates properly and I
will try out version 3.0 - thanks.  As for Windows I've tried out Borland
C++ 5.5 which handles them nicely except I cannot use its debugger with any
executable that I create.  Could someone let me known how this is done.

I plan to implement my code on Linux when I install it.  I do have the Code
Fusion compiler which I bought 2 years ago which is GCC with help from
Intel.  I am hoping that it has decent template support.  But I doubt it.
Is the free GCC not that efficient at optimising then?

I would like to take this conversation to SWENG but it seems to be down and
I haven't heard a peep from it for a few days now.  I am hoping that a few
on this list subscribe to SWENG so please forgive me when I ask this
question:

Has anyone converted the LOKI library to not use partial template
specialisation so that I can compile it under MSVC?

Cheers,


Matt Davies
Programmer, Confounding Factor
ma...@co...
www.confounding-factor.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Vogel [mailto:vo...@ep...]
Sent: 11 December 2001 10:03
To: Matt Davies; gam...@li...
Subject: RE: [GD-Linux] ANSI/ISO C++


None of the commercial compilers out there supports the full range of the
ISO C++ Standard though on either the sweng or algorithm list someone posted
a list of "research" compilers that claim to be fully compliant.

gcc 3.0 seems to have okay template support though I can't really tell as we
hit a regression with gcc >= 2.96. You might try Intel's C++ compiler - it's
not free for commercial use but I think you can use it for free if you are
student or something like that. For a personal project it might be worth
looking up the details as the compiler is $400 otherwise IIRC. If it's for
real (time==money) use it's worth every penny as it compiles code roughly
three times faster than gcc :)

On Windows MSVC is free IIRC as long as you are a student or for non
commercial use (as above I only vaguely remember the terms) though they only
provide you with access to a non optimizing version of the compiler. MSVC
has a nice IDE and debugger so you might want to give that a try.

BTW, cross platformness and nifty template tricks are usually mutually
exclusive - at least in my experience. Michael Vance @ TreyArch should be
able to tell a lot of horror stories ;)

-- Daniel, Epic Games Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: gam...@li...
[mailto:gam...@li...]On Behalf Of Matt
Davies
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:36 AM
To: gam...@li...
Subject: [GD-Linux] ANSI/ISO C++


Hi,

Is there any free compilers for Linux that supports the full ANSI/ISO C++
language - which includes template template parameters and partial template
specialisation.  Does GCC support them yet?  I need a compiler for Windows
as well.  Borland C++ 5.5 seems to do the job but I've had no luck making it
work with the Turbo Debugger.  Perhaps someone can provide me with help
there?

BTW, does anyone know whats happened to the SWENG mailing list.  I've sent
some messages out but I haven't received any.  Is it down?

Best regards,


Matt Davies
Programmer, Confounding Factor
ma...@co...
www.confounding-factor.com