RE: [GD-Windows] Visual C++ .Net

[Matt D. <ma...@co...>]

For the last few years, I've really liked Microsoft - they are simply the
best developer supporters in the world for me.  However, I have been really
frustrated with the lack of information regarding the conformance of the C++
standards for templates (i.e. partial template specialisation etc.) but that
quote has rekindled my complete faith in Microsoft as a company that
listens.  I have been messing around with Boost and Loki for a while now as
well as doing my own stuff but have been forced to use Borland C++ to do
this.  I just hope the VisualC I've been waiting for comes soon.


Matt Davies
Programmer, Confounding Factor
ma...@co...
www.confounding-factor.com



-----Original Message-----
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Rich
Sent: 22 January 2002 20:52
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Subject: Re: [GD-Windows] Visual C++ .Net



In article <E0B4F5A89A36D5118FD700105A120D3904BEF1@EXCHANGE>,
    Nathan Rausch <Nat...@te...>  writes:

> As far as Microsoft is concerned, 95 is dead and buried. 98 and NT4 are
just
> around the corner as well.

Personally I can't wait for NT4 to die ;-)

> As far as VS.net goes, what does it have to offer us who don't use
> ATL/Wizards/Whamadoodles9.5 or whatever else they decided to stick on?

(As an aside, ATL's smart COM pointer class is quite handy even if you
never use anything else from ATL.)

> Things like partial template specialization, better template support in
> general, and better conformance to the C++ standard are really what
interest
> me the most. Microsoft's site is pretty barren in this area. I'd be sold
if
> it could compile Blitz++ ;)

Yes, I think Blitz is one of the things specifically they say they are
targetting for support.  The template support is much improved.  MS
just hired Stanley Lippman (of "C++ Primer" fame, among others) as the
main architect guy for VC++.  There is an interview with him on the
Visual C++ home page.
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/default.asp>

I quote from that interview:

    "Microsoft is however working to ensure that Visual C++ will
    compile the most popular libraries such as Boost, Blitz, Loki and
    a fully compliant version of STL. The emphasis is on a level of
    compliance that allows popular libraries to be compiled, not 100%
    compliance."

I recommend reading the whole interview for the proper context of that
last statement.
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