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RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to registry

[Tom F. <to...@mu...>]

>      "Do you want this software to be available to all users(requires
>      admin rights) or only to the current user?(Yes/No)"

Nooooooo. What does the answer "no" mean? :-)

Even the klunky old Atari ST had a function to easily customise the words
printed on the buttons. Windows... <shakes head in despair>


Tom Forsyth - Muckyfoot bloke and Microsoft MVP.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kerim Borchaev [mailto:wa...@ho...]
> Sent: 22 January 2003 09:06
> To: Brian Hook
> Subject: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to registry
> 
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
>      Support both HKCU and HKLM. If your software is being installed
>      by an advanced user let her choose what to use. Like this:
>      
>      "Do you want this software to be available to all users(requires
>      admin rights) or only to the current user?(Yes/No)"
> 
>      And on start of your app first, say, look into CU(if the user
>      installed this soft for her personally ) and if nothing
>      found loook into LM.
> 
> Best regards,
>  Kerim                            mailto:wa...@ho...
> 
> Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 11:01:55 AM, you wrote:
> 
> BH> Yes, I'm revisiting a thread that's over a year old =)
> 
> BH> I've been using HKCU instead of HKLM like a good Windows 
> app, but it
> BH> seems like you can't win 'em all.
> 
> BH> The problem with HKCU is that, well, it's per user.  I've 
> gotten very
> BH> sporadic complaints about having to install our games 
> multiple times
> BH> (including unlock codes), which isn't that big a deal.  
> But what IS a
> BH> big deal is when you have multiple users on the same 
> machine trying
> BH> to compete against each other, but now their high scores aren't
> BH> shared.  This is a pretty galling thing, since a lot of 
> our games are
> BH> competitive that way and we do find that more than a few of our
> BH> players are on multi-user systems.
> 
> BH> Ideas on a clean solution to this problem?
> 
> BH> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to registry

[Gareth L. <GL...@cl...>]

Oops, sorry about the previous email, was intended for Tom personally. On a
more serious note, MessageBox() is a helper function, there is NOTHING
stopping you from displaying your own dialog box with both options.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Forsyth [mailto:to...@mu...]
> Sent: 22 January 2003 11:11
> To: gam...@li...
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to
> registry
> 
> 
> >      "Do you want this software to be available to all 
> users(requires
> >      admin rights) or only to the current user?(Yes/No)"
> 
> Nooooooo. What does the answer "no" mean? :-)
> 
> Even the klunky old Atari ST had a function to easily 
> customise the words
> printed on the buttons. Windows... <shakes head in despair>
> 
> 
> Tom Forsyth - Muckyfoot bloke and Microsoft MVP.
> 
> This email is the product of your deranged imagination,
> and does not in any way imply existence of the author.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kerim Borchaev [mailto:wa...@ho...]
> > Sent: 22 January 2003 09:06
> > To: Brian Hook
> > Subject: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing 
> to registry
> > 
> > 
> > Hello Brian,
> > 
> >      Support both HKCU and HKLM. If your software is being installed
> >      by an advanced user let her choose what to use. Like this:
> >      
> >      "Do you want this software to be available to all 
> users(requires
> >      admin rights) or only to the current user?(Yes/No)"
> > 
> >      And on start of your app first, say, look into CU(if the user
> >      installed this soft for her personally ) and if nothing
> >      found loook into LM.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> >  Kerim                            mailto:wa...@ho...
> > 
> > Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 11:01:55 AM, you wrote:
> > 
> > BH> Yes, I'm revisiting a thread that's over a year old =)
> > 
> > BH> I've been using HKCU instead of HKLM like a good Windows 
> > app, but it
> > BH> seems like you can't win 'em all.
> > 
> > BH> The problem with HKCU is that, well, it's per user.  I've 
> > gotten very
> > BH> sporadic complaints about having to install our games 
> > multiple times
> > BH> (including unlock codes), which isn't that big a deal.  
> > But what IS a
> > BH> big deal is when you have multiple users on the same 
> > machine trying
> > BH> to compete against each other, but now their high scores aren't
> > BH> shared.  This is a pretty galling thing, since a lot of 
> > our games are
> > BH> competitive that way and we do find that more than a few of our
> > BH> players are on multi-user systems.
> > 
> > BH> Ideas on a clean solution to this problem?
> > 
> > BH> Brian
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to registry

[Gareth L. <GL...@cl...>]

In the case of you, the user, prefering to be the only user of the Super
Banana Man(Hear after:The game) selection of the OK button is in order. If
though, the opitunity of all users of the machine to the "The Game" is a
preferance, the "Cancel" button should be the one pointed to with the
pointing device.

OK CANCEL

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Forsyth [mailto:to...@mu...]
> Sent: 22 January 2003 11:11
> To: gam...@li...
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to
> registry
> 
> 
> >      "Do you want this software to be available to all 
> users(requires
> >      admin rights) or only to the current user?(Yes/No)"
> 
> Nooooooo. What does the answer "no" mean? :-)
> 
> Even the klunky old Atari ST had a function to easily 
> customise the words
> printed on the buttons. Windows... <shakes head in despair>
> 
> 
> Tom Forsyth - Muckyfoot bloke and Microsoft MVP.
> 
> This email is the product of your deranged imagination,
> and does not in any way imply existence of the author.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kerim Borchaev [mailto:wa...@ho...]
> > Sent: 22 January 2003 09:06
> > To: Brian Hook
> > Subject: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing 
> to registry
> > 
> > 
> > Hello Brian,
> > 
> >      Support both HKCU and HKLM. If your software is being installed
> >      by an advanced user let her choose what to use. Like this:
> >      
> >      "Do you want this software to be available to all 
> users(requires
> >      admin rights) or only to the current user?(Yes/No)"
> > 
> >      And on start of your app first, say, look into CU(if the user
> >      installed this soft for her personally ) and if nothing
> >      found loook into LM.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> >  Kerim                            mailto:wa...@ho...
> > 
> > Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 11:01:55 AM, you wrote:
> > 
> > BH> Yes, I'm revisiting a thread that's over a year old =)
> > 
> > BH> I've been using HKCU instead of HKLM like a good Windows 
> > app, but it
> > BH> seems like you can't win 'em all.
> > 
> > BH> The problem with HKCU is that, well, it's per user.  I've 
> > gotten very
> > BH> sporadic complaints about having to install our games 
> > multiple times
> > BH> (including unlock codes), which isn't that big a deal.  
> > But what IS a
> > BH> big deal is when you have multiple users on the same 
> > machine trying
> > BH> to compete against each other, but now their high scores aren't
> > BH> shared.  This is a pretty galling thing, since a lot of 
> > our games are
> > BH> competitive that way and we do find that more than a few of our
> > BH> players are on multi-user systems.
> > 
> > BH> Ideas on a clean solution to this problem?
> > 
> > BH> Brian
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to registry

[Wayne C. <wc...@re...>]

> In the case of you, the user, prefering to be the only user of the Super
> Banana Man(Hear after:The game) selection of the OK button is in order. If
> though, the opitunity of all users of the machine to the "The Game" is a
> preferance, the "Cancel" button should be the one pointed to with the
> pointing device.

A re-phrasing of the question to suit the buttons would also be in order,
the message body text has always been programmer specified :) "Would you
like <app-name> to be installed for all users? (requires administrator
priviledges)" resulting in a yes\no response. I usually take 'Cancel' to
mean 'go no further'.

Wayney
"I'm sure at least 2% of my mails are not inane babble!" - Wayne Coles, 2003

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RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to registry

[Tom F. <to...@mu...>]

Sure, it just means adding it to the resources and all that malarky. Which
is a huge hassle for every possible message in an app. It would be stupidly
helpful have a MessageBoxEx ( hWnd, "Something gnarly happened", "Hey dude",
MB_CUSTOM3BUTTONS | MB_ICONBODACIOUS, "Groovy", "Downer", "Whoa" );

OK, well there already is a MessageBoxEx. Time for MessageBoxExEx.

Sorry - I'm just wishlisting. :-)


Tom Forsyth - Muckyfoot bloke and Microsoft MVP.

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and does not in any way imply existence of the author.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gareth Lewin [mailto:GL...@cl...]
> Sent: 22 January 2003 11:27
> To: gam...@li...
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to
> registry
> 
> 
> Oops, sorry about the previous email, was intended for Tom 
> personally. On a
> more serious note, MessageBox() is a helper function, there is NOTHING
> stopping you from displaying your own dialog box with both options.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Forsyth [mailto:to...@mu...]
> > Sent: 22 January 2003 11:11
> > To: gam...@li...
> > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to
> > registry
> > 
> > 
> > >      "Do you want this software to be available to all 
> > users(requires
> > >      admin rights) or only to the current user?(Yes/No)"
> > 
> > Nooooooo. What does the answer "no" mean? :-)
> > 
> > Even the klunky old Atari ST had a function to easily 
> > customise the words
> > printed on the buttons. Windows... <shakes head in despair>
> > 
> > 
> > Tom Forsyth - Muckyfoot bloke and Microsoft MVP.
> > 
> > This email is the product of your deranged imagination,
> > and does not in any way imply existence of the author.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kerim Borchaev [mailto:wa...@ho...]
> > > Sent: 22 January 2003 09:06
> > > To: Brian Hook
> > > Subject: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing 
> > to registry
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello Brian,
> > > 
> > >      Support both HKCU and HKLM. If your software is 
> being installed
> > >      by an advanced user let her choose what to use. Like this:
> > >      
> > >      "Do you want this software to be available to all 
> > users(requires
> > >      admin rights) or only to the current user?(Yes/No)"
> > > 
> > >      And on start of your app first, say, look into CU(if the user
> > >      installed this soft for her personally ) and if nothing
> > >      found loook into LM.
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > >  Kerim                            mailto:wa...@ho...
> > > 
> > > Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 11:01:55 AM, you wrote:
> > > 
> > > BH> Yes, I'm revisiting a thread that's over a year old =)
> > > 
> > > BH> I've been using HKCU instead of HKLM like a good Windows 
> > > app, but it
> > > BH> seems like you can't win 'em all.
> > > 
> > > BH> The problem with HKCU is that, well, it's per user.  I've 
> > > gotten very
> > > BH> sporadic complaints about having to install our games 
> > > multiple times
> > > BH> (including unlock codes), which isn't that big a deal.  
> > > But what IS a
> > > BH> big deal is when you have multiple users on the same 
> > > machine trying
> > > BH> to compete against each other, but now their high 
> scores aren't
> > > BH> shared.  This is a pretty galling thing, since a lot of 
> > > our games are
> > > BH> competitive that way and we do find that more than a 
> few of our
> > > BH> players are on multi-user systems.
> > > 
> > > BH> Ideas on a clean solution to this problem?
> > > 
> > > BH> Brian
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to registry

[Jon W. <hp...@mi...>]

I betcha could have written a wrapper in the time it took you
to write this e-mail. The wrapper would run at dialog box init
message processing time, and just slam the string you want
into the buttons you care about. WM_SETTEXT, if memory serves.

Cheers,

					/ h+

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gam...@li...
> [mailto:gam...@li...]On Behalf Of
> Tom Forsyth
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:07 AM
> To: gam...@li...
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to
> registry
>
>
> Sure, it just means adding it to the resources and all that malarky. Which
> is a huge hassle for every possible message in an app. It would
> be stupidly
> helpful have a MessageBoxEx ( hWnd, "Something gnarly happened",
> "Hey dude",
> MB_CUSTOM3BUTTONS | MB_ICONBODACIOUS, "Groovy", "Downer", "Whoa" );
>
> OK, well there already is a MessageBoxEx. Time for MessageBoxExEx.
>
> Sorry - I'm just wishlisting. :-)

Re: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to registry

[Javier A. <ja...@py...>]

How would you write a wrapper like that for MessageBox?

Jon Watte <hp...@mi...> wrote:
> I betcha could have written a wrapper in the time it took you
> to write this e-mail. The wrapper would run at dialog box init
> message processing time, and just slam the string you want
> into the buttons you care about. WM_SETTEXT, if memory serves.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> / h+
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gam...@li...
>> [mailto:gam...@li...]On Behalf Of
>> Tom Forsyth
>> 
>> 
>> Sure, it just means adding it to the resources and all that malarky.
>> Which is a huge hassle for every possible message in an app. It would
>> be stupidly
>> helpful have a MessageBoxEx ( hWnd, "Something gnarly happened",
>> "Hey dude",
>> MB_CUSTOM3BUTTONS | MB_ICONBODACIOUS, "Groovy", "Downer", "Whoa" );
>> 
>> OK, well there already is a MessageBoxEx. Time for MessageBoxExEx.
>> 
>> Sorry - I'm just wishlisting. :-)

  Javier Arevalo
  Pyro Studios

RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to registry

[Jon W. <hp...@mi...>]

My message was a reply to Tom where he said that adding button 
labels to a custom dialog required changing the resource file. 
If you have a custom dialog, all you need is one for each number 
of buttons you want; setting the lable on the buttons can be 
done by the dialog box proc and thus the wrapper he suggested 
can be easily implemented.

Cheers,

					/ h+

> How would you write a wrapper like that for MessageBox?

> Jon Watte <hp...@mi...> wrote:
> > I betcha could have written a wrapper in the time it took you
> > to write this e-mail. The wrapper would run at dialog box init
> > message processing time, and just slam the string you want
> > into the buttons you care about. WM_SETTEXT, if memory serves.

RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to registry

[Wayne C. <wc...@re...>]

> Sure, it just means adding it to the resources and all that malarky. Which
> is a huge hassle for every possible message in an app. It would be
> stupidly
> helpful have a MessageBoxEx ( hWnd, "Something gnarly happened", "Hey
> dude",
> MB_CUSTOM3BUTTONS | MB_ICONBODACIOUS, "Groovy", "Downer", "Whoa" );
> 
> OK, well there already is a MessageBoxEx. Time for MessageBoxExEx.
> 
> Sorry - I'm just wishlisting. :-)

I'm still waiting for the DoAI() function ;(

Wayney
"I'm sure at least 2% of my mails are not inane babble!" - Wayne Coles, 2003

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RE: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to registry

[Andrew G. <ag...@cl...>]

I think Jon exagerates a wee bit, although it's no great amount of work to
come up with a replacement MessageBox which correctly sizes its self
depending on the amount of text and buttons.

I wonder though if it'd be possible to do something with
GetClassInfo/UnRegisterClass/RegisterClass and just drop in your own
WindowProc for the message box which adjusted a few things on startup and
passed every call through to the real message box proc. Probabably more
hassle than it's worth :)

It's a real shame though that you can't specify replacement text for the
default buttons, especially as you can already do something similar for the
icon that's displayed.


Andy @ 
Climax Brighton 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Javier Arevalo [mailto:ja...@py...]
> Sent: 22 January 2003 18:33
> To: gam...@li...
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [GD-Windows] Security/access when writing to
> registry
> 
> 
> How would you write a wrapper like that for MessageBox?
> 
> Jon Watte <hp...@mi...> wrote:
> > I betcha could have written a wrapper in the time it took you
> > to write this e-mail. The wrapper would run at dialog box init
> > message processing time, and just slam the string you want
> > into the buttons you care about. WM_SETTEXT, if memory serves.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > / h+
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: gam...@li...
> >> 
> [mailto:gam...@li...]On Behalf Of
> >> Tom Forsyth
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sure, it just means adding it to the resources and all 
> that malarky.
> >> Which is a huge hassle for every possible message in an 
> app. It would
> >> be stupidly
> >> helpful have a MessageBoxEx ( hWnd, "Something gnarly happened",
> >> "Hey dude",
> >> MB_CUSTOM3BUTTONS | MB_ICONBODACIOUS, "Groovy", "Downer", "Whoa" );
> >> 
> >> OK, well there already is a MessageBoxEx. Time for MessageBoxExEx.
> >> 
> >> Sorry - I'm just wishlisting. :-)
> 
>   Javier Arevalo
>   Pyro Studios
> 
> 
> 
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