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[GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question

[Jon W. <hp...@mi...>]

Hoping this list is still alive -- my last message is from 11/20/06...

I'm trying out the Photoshop CS3 version. It appears that useful 
functions, like "load selection from transparency" have disappeared. Is 
this another "TGA is all fuxxored" snafu? I can't find another way to do 
that.

The reason is that I have a bunch of PNGs that contain mostly 
transparent alpha, but lots of useful color information in the color 
channels. It used to be simple to convert the transparency part to an 
alpha channel after opening in CS2, but I can't figure out how to do it 
in CS3. Any help?

Cheers,

          / h+


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Re: [GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question

[Daniel R. <re...@ce...>]

Hi hp,

the list is not dead - just, well ... :)

photoshop:
i can't believe that they removed that feature - it's more likely another UI 
change.
try the following: go into the channel tool (where you can select each 
channel separately) and klick on the alpha channel while holding ctrl (or 
was it shift? or apple key?) - this should create a selection (mask) that is 
exactly the values of the alpha channel.

cheers,
  daniel


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Watte" <hp...@mi...>
To: <gam...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:17 PM
Subject: [GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question


> Hoping this list is still alive -- my last message is from 11/20/06...
>
> I'm trying out the Photoshop CS3 version. It appears that useful
> functions, like "load selection from transparency" have disappeared. Is
> this another "TGA is all fuxxored" snafu? I can't find another way to do
> that.
>
> The reason is that I have a bunch of PNGs that contain mostly
> transparent alpha, but lots of useful color information in the color
> channels. It used to be simple to convert the transparency part to an
> alpha channel after opening in CS2, but I can't figure out how to do it
> in CS3. Any help?
>
> Cheers,
>
>          / h+
>
>
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Re: [GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question

[Richard F. <ra...@gm...>]

just "ctrl-click" on the layer, that loads you a selection, then create
yourself whatever you need from it.

On 8/7/07, Jon Watte <hp...@mi...> wrote:
>
> Hoping this list is still alive -- my last message is from 11/20/06...
>
> I'm trying out the Photoshop CS3 version. It appears that useful
> functions, like "load selection from transparency" have disappeared. Is
> this another "TGA is all fuxxored" snafu? I can't find another way to do
> that.
>
> The reason is that I have a bunch of PNGs that contain mostly
> transparent alpha, but lots of useful color information in the color
> channels. It used to be simple to convert the transparency part to an
> alpha channel after opening in CS2, but I can't figure out how to do it
> in CS3. Any help?
>
> Cheers,
>
>           / h+
>
>
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Re: [GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question

[Jon W. <hp...@mi...>]

Thanks, that actually works. Talk about a hidden feature!

Is there some secret trick to getting the effects/filters to become 
enabled without turning layers into Smart Objects, too?

Cheers,

          / h+


Richard Fabian wrote:
> just "ctrl-click" on the layer, that loads you a selection, then 
> create yourself whatever you need from it.
>

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Re: [GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question

[Troy G. <tro...@gm...>]

> Thanks, that actually works. Talk about a hidden feature!

Not sure where or when I learned it, but its been in Photoshop for as
long as I've used it (v4 or v5). In fact, I didn't realize what you
were asking for earlier in the thread because I'd never done it
through a menu option! ;-)

> Is there some secret trick to getting the effects/filters to become
> enabled without turning layers into Smart Objects, too?

Definitely don't have to turn things into Smart Objects (which were
added in CS2, or maybe CS, I believe) to get filters and effects.
They'll work on any layer if its rasterized (not text, not
paths/shapes), if your document is at least 16-bit (most filters don't
work on palettized images, but many work on grayscale 8-bit).

Troy.

Re: [GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question

[Jon W. <hp...@mi...>]

Troy Gilbert wrote:
>
>> Is there some secret trick to getting the effects/filters to become
>> enabled without turning layers into Smart Objects, too?
>>     
>
> Definitely don't have to turn things into Smart Objects (which were
> added in CS2, or maybe CS, I believe) to get filters and effects.
> They'll work on any layer if its rasterized (not text, not
> paths/shapes), if your document is at least 16-bit (most filters don't
> work on palettized images, but many work on grayscale 8-bit).
>   


In CS3? Here's what I do:

1) Open "something.png" which is a 32-bit image.
2) Select All.
3) Look in Filters menu, and notice that everything is blanked out 
except the "convert for smart filters" menu option.

Really, I'm not feeling good about CS3 at this time.

Cheers,

          / h+


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Re: [GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question

[Troy G. <tro...@gm...>]

> 1) Open "something.png" which is a 32-bit image.
> 2) Select All.
> 3) Look in Filters menu, and notice that everything is blanked out
> except the "convert for smart filters" menu option.

Then something's wrong with your copy of CS3 or your PNG. I follow the
exact same steps and get exactly what I expected: everything enabled.
If I change the image mode to indexed I get something similar (though
"convert to smart filters" is grayed out as well).

When you say "Select All" do you mean literally CTRL+A (or the
equivalent from the selection menu)?

If you create a new document are the filters available?

Troy.

Re: [GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question

[Jon W. <hp...@mi...>]

Yes, this seems to be happening only for PNGs that I open. New images 
have the filters enabled.
Actually, if I create some new image, and then open a PNG, that PNG is 
fine. Mysterious.

Cheers,

             / h+


Troy Gilbert wrote:
>> 1) Open "something.png" which is a 32-bit image.
>> 2) Select All.
>> 3) Look in Filters menu, and notice that everything is blanked out
>> except the "convert for smart filters" menu option.
>>     
>
> Then something's wrong with your copy of CS3 or your PNG. I follow the
> exact same steps and get exactly what I expected: everything enabled.
> If I change the image mode to indexed I get something similar (though
> "convert to smart filters" is grayed out as well).
>
> When you say "Select All" do you mean literally CTRL+A (or the
> equivalent from the selection menu)?
>
> If you create a new document are the filters available?
>
> Troy.
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Re: [GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question

[Daniel R. <re...@ce...>]

Adobe Photoshop has often broken File Format Filters - i've heard about some 
BMP problems in CS, TGA problems in PS7 - so probably PNG is broken in CS3?
Or probably it comes from Copy Protection and pirated versions?

People typicalls fix it via copying file format filter files from 
older/newer Versions that work.

cheers,
  Daniel


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Watte" <hp...@mi...>
To: <gam...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question


> Yes, this seems to be happening only for PNGs that I open. New images
> have the filters enabled.
> Actually, if I create some new image, and then open a PNG, that PNG is
> fine. Mysterious.
>
> Cheers,
>
>             / h+
>
>
> Troy Gilbert wrote:
>>> 1) Open "something.png" which is a 32-bit image.
>>> 2) Select All.
>>> 3) Look in Filters menu, and notice that everything is blanked out
>>> except the "convert for smart filters" menu option.
>>>
>>
>> Then something's wrong with your copy of CS3 or your PNG. I follow the
>> exact same steps and get exactly what I expected: everything enabled.
>> If I change the image mode to indexed I get something similar (though
>> "convert to smart filters" is grayed out as well).
>>
>> When you say "Select All" do you mean literally CTRL+A (or the
>> equivalent from the selection menu)?
>>
>> If you create a new document are the filters available?
>>
>> Troy.
>>
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Re: [GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question

[Troy G. <tro...@gm...>]

> Adobe Photoshop has often broken File Format Filters - i've heard about some
> BMP problems in CS, TGA problems in PS7 - so probably PNG is broken in CS3?
> Or probably it comes from Copy Protection and pirated versions?

I've had no problems with the PNG file format in CS3... and I'd hope
no one would, as PNG's are used extensively in Flash CS3 (bitmap
format of choice)!

Jon, I'd investigate your setup... sounds like a bad issue. Did you
copy filters from a previous version, or install CS3 ontop of CS2,
etc?

Troy.

Re: [GD-General] Photoshop CS3 question

[Jon W. <hp...@mi...>]

Daniel Renkel wrote:
> Adobe Photoshop has often broken File Format Filters - i've heard about some 
> BMP problems in CS, TGA problems in PS7 - so probably PNG is broken in CS3?
> Or probably it comes from Copy Protection and pirated versions?
>   

Given that this is the free trial downloaded from Adobe.com, that seems 
unlikely :-)

The specific files that show this problem turn out to be uncompressed 
PNG files generated by a specific tool, so I'm inclined to think that 
those files tickle this bug somehow. Frustrating.

Cheers,

             / h+


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