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[GD-General] Arcade games' levels

[Death H. <dea...@ga...>]

Hi!

    I have a few questions on the subject.

Have you ever played Pandemonium? Tarzan? 3D games where levels are full 3d
enviroments, but you move your character only left-right/jump. I'm wondering
how is that achieved. How do I know where is the 'walking path' for the
character? How are levels like these edited? They act as if they were 2d,
just look and move in 3d.

How are the levels in standard 3d arcade games modelled? Like Rayman2, MDK2,
etc. In Unreal, Quake and similar FPS games, everything is composed of
brushes and everything is geometrically pretty regular. But in those games,
everything looks much more natural, not everything is inside some buildings,
and there are so many types of surfaces with which you can interact.

I hope I'm not offtopic...

DHunter

Re: [GD-General] Arcade games' levels

[<cas...@ya...>]

Death Hunter wrote:
> How are the levels in standard 3d arcade games modelled? Like Rayman2,
MDK2,

In MDK2 they used 3dsmax, you can find some articles about using 3dsmax for
level design in www.gamasutra.com

In our case we also use it, but in my opinion it is a pain in the ass. The
most difficult thing is mapping the levels, with csg editors that's done
automatically and with farly good results, then you can ajust (scale,
translate and rotate) the texture coordinates. If somebody knows a method to
do that in 3dsmax, please let me know...

The problem of csg editors is that you have to clip overlapping brushes,
remove invisible faces, etc. but if you don't care about that i'd recommend
you quark. At Crytek we used a modified version of it, and everybody was
really happy.


Ignacio Castaño
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Re: [GD-General] Arcade games' levels

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Death Hunter wrote:
> > The problem of csg editors is that you have to clip overlapping brushes,
> > remove invisible faces, etc. but if you don't care about that i'd
> recommend
> > you quark. At Crytek we used a modified version of it, and everybody was
> > really happy.
> >
> >
> But it's GPL!!! God, I hate that license.

But use a gpl editor to make non-gpl maps. Anyway, I think our version was
licensed under different conditions.


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Re: [GD-General] Arcade games' levels

[<cas...@ya...>]

Ignacio Castaño
> But use a gpl editor to make non-gpl maps. Anyway, I think our version was
> licensed under different conditions.

I meant that you can use a gpl program and the results don't need to be
under gpl, for example you can use gimp and your artwork won't be under gpl.


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