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RE: [GD-Consoles] New PS1 dev ??

[Tom F. <to...@mu...>]

> The same is true
> for Nokia and their, as yet unreleased, N-Gage hardware.

Er... don't think so. The SDK is freely available, you can start developing
on existing phones - it's just a Series 60 in a different package and with
some extra hardware (cartridge, FM reciever, network stuff, etc). So
starting development is easy.

Now getting a game published is a different kettle of fish of course, but if
you have an actual game developed, it's pretty simple to go to the platform
vendors and get it out into the marketplace.

The gotcha with the consoles is that you can't even start development until
you've done this process. But that's not true of N-Gage.


I'm not associated with Nokia, and Muckyfoot don't develop for them or
anything - I've just looked into this because as a hobby I like to code on
mobile devices.


Tom Forsyth - Muckyfoot bloke and Microsoft MVP.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TyN [mailto:cs...@oz...]
> Sent: 09 May 2003 06:13
> To: Gam...@li...
> Subject: [GD-Consoles] New PS1 dev ??
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am hoping this list is frequented by some Sony representatives.
> 
> Does Sony support new developers coming into the PS1 platform 
> now, or is
> everything focused on the PS2?
> 
> I am interested in building games that would suite the PS1 
> more than the
> PS2, given the hype that surrounds the next generation'ness 
> of the PS2.  I
> am an independent developer and would like to get whatever 
> kit is necessary
> to break into the PS1 marketplace.  Does anyone know how to 
> do this, or even
> if it is possible?
> 
> I know that Nintendo has such overbearing requirements for 
> their developer
> licences that you pretty much have to be a successful game 
> company with a
> bunch of cash before you can even get into the GBA market.  
> The same is true
> for Nokia and their, as yet unreleased, N-Gage hardware.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Ty
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[GD-Consoles] Re: New PS1 dev ??

[TyN <cs...@oz...>]

I hate to waste bandwidth with circular conversations that don't go anywhere
but I have also looked into this and although you can get the Nokia Series
60 SDK without any trouble, as I have, the N-Gage SDK is a very different
proposition.

The N-Gage is based on the Series 60 platform however the differences are
what make the platform interesting and you cannot access these (accelerated
hardware access, additional features, etc.) without using the Nokia N-Gage
SDK, which you cannot get until you are a successful company with a bunch of
cash.

My point is simply that all the console platforms seem to be closed to
independent (or garage) developers.


Regards,
Ty

"Tom Forsyth" <to...@mu...> wrote in message
news:F9CD80F99127D211BA2B00A0C9D855CD01288605@LORDANDMASTER...
> > The same is true
> > for Nokia and their, as yet unreleased, N-Gage hardware.
>
> Er... don't think so. The SDK is freely available, you can start
developing
> on existing phones - it's just a Series 60 in a different package and with
> some extra hardware (cartridge, FM reciever, network stuff, etc). So
> starting development is easy.
>
> Now getting a game published is a different kettle of fish of course, but
if
> you have an actual game developed, it's pretty simple to go to the
platform
> vendors and get it out into the marketplace.
>
> The gotcha with the consoles is that you can't even start development
until
> you've done this process. But that's not true of N-Gage.
>
>
> I'm not associated with Nokia, and Muckyfoot don't develop for them or
> anything - I've just looked into this because as a hobby I like to code on
> mobile devices.
>
>
> Tom Forsyth - Muckyfoot bloke and Microsoft MVP.
>
> This email is the product of your deranged imagination,
> and does not in any way imply existence of the author.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TyN [mailto:cs...@oz...]
> > Sent: 09 May 2003 06:13
> > To: Gam...@li...
> > Subject: [GD-Consoles] New PS1 dev ??
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am hoping this list is frequented by some Sony representatives.
> >
> > Does Sony support new developers coming into the PS1 platform
> > now, or is
> > everything focused on the PS2?
> >
> > I am interested in building games that would suite the PS1
> > more than the
> > PS2, given the hype that surrounds the next generation'ness
> > of the PS2.  I
> > am an independent developer and would like to get whatever
> > kit is necessary
> > to break into the PS1 marketplace.  Does anyone know how to
> > do this, or even
> > if it is possible?
> >
> > I know that Nintendo has such overbearing requirements for
> > their developer
> > licences that you pretty much have to be a successful game
> > company with a
> > bunch of cash before you can even get into the GBA market.
> > The same is true
> > for Nokia and their, as yet unreleased, N-Gage hardware.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Ty
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > Enterprise Linux Forum Conference & Expo, June 4-6, 2003, Santa Clara
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> > enterprise solutions
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Re: [GD-Consoles] Re: New PS1 dev ??

[Jason G D. <jas...@py...>]

From: "TyN" <cs...@oz...>
> My point is simply that all the console platforms seem to be closed to
> independent (or garage) developers.

For those who wish to develop on a Sony platform and don't have the
resources to sign up as a licensed developer, there are other official
routes available. For PS1, there was Net Yaroze and for PS2, we offer PS2
Linux. There isn't a direct distribution route you can take from there, but
you can quite happily develop stuff for next to no money at all, and once
you put something together you can probably find a publisher to back you.

I don't know if there's much life left in Yaroze, except amongst a small
hardcore of users, or students at one of the universities where PSX
programming is part of the course - and technically you're not supposed to
sell the systems on either, as there was a big bunch of paperwork to sign
before you could get one. PS2 Linux on the other hand is easy to obtain and
has a pretty active community, and you also get direct support from Sony
staff.

Jase