Fuse - the Free Unix Spectrum Emulator / Bugs / #218 Detect loaders side effects

Fredrick Meunier - 2011-04-22

The issue seems to be that the program doesn't get along with the "Detect Loaders" preference, turning this off allows the CSW to load properly. I'm a bit surprised that loader detection has an effect on the running emulation, I thought it would be transparent?

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Fredrick Meunier - 2013-02-05

This also seems to affect the TZX of Chuckie Egg 2 as reported at WoS

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Fredrick Meunier - 2013-05-03

And Viz too.

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Fredrick Meunier - 2013-05-03

summary: CSW file fails to load --> Detect loaders side effects

Group: --> v1.1
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Fredrick Meunier - 2013-05-03

Group: v1.1 --> future
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-The CSW file in the archive linked in this post \(http://www.worldofspectrum.org/forums/showpost.php?p=528455&postcount=6\) doesn't load with Fuse but does with ZX Spin 0.7s.
+The CSW file in the archive linked in this post ([http://www.worldofspectrum.org/forums/showpost.php?p=528455&postcount=6](http://www.worldofspectrum.org/forums/showpost.php?p=528455&postcount=6)) doesn't load with Fuse but does with ZX Spin 0.7s.

Philip Kendall - 2017-09-17

Of the programs mentioned here:

All the links in the WoS thread to Trzy Wymiary seem to be dead so I can't test it.

Chuckie Egg 2 loads fine in Fuse 1.4.0.

Viz loads fine in Fuse 1.4.0 (and always did - it's just a standard ROM loader) - the problem is that the "redefine keys" screen triggers detect loaders.

Test cases for Chuckie Egg 2 and Viz added to check_loaders anyway.
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Fredrick Meunier - 2017-09-17

Thanks, here are some of the Trzy Wymiary files:
TrzyWymiary.zip
TrzyWymiary.tzx.zip

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Philip Kendall - 2017-09-17

Thanks Fred, test case added to check_loaders.

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windale - 2017-09-18

These various different loading schemes don't load with all (Default) Fastloading options on.

Compendium - Shove a Sledge + Tiddly Drinks (1987) (Gremlin Graphics Software).tzx (CRC32 = B6C90409)
Compendium - Snakes & Hazards + X-Mas Ludo (1987) (Gremlin Graphics Software).tzx (2399EF98)
Joe Blade II (1988) (Players Software).tzx (3CA2566A)
Zanthrax (1989) (Crash).tzx (D53741A1)
Basil - The Great Mouse Detective (1987)(Gremlin Graphics Software)[48-128K].tzx (147E9A98) (Works on ZXSpin)
Echelon (1988) (U.S. Gold) (Side A).tzx (21D90EAE)
Echelon (1988) (U.S. Gold) (Side B).tzx (9723F43A)

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- Philip Kendall - 2017-09-18
  
  Thanks. Of these:
  
  Compendium added as a test case and being tracked in [bugs:#391] (both sides in one bug as they seem to be identical loaders)
  
  Joe Blade II added as a test case and being tracked in [bugs:#392]
  
  Zanthrax added as a test case and being tracked in [bugs:#393]
  
  Basil The Great Mouse Detective works, but just fails to start the tape. Already been tracked in [bugs:#357]
  
  Echelon seems to load to me; you just need to swap the tape over at the end of side A. Things get a little confused by Fuse's "auto rewind" of the tape.
  
  Related
  
  Bugs: #357
  Bugs: ~~#391~~
  Bugs: ~~#392~~
  Bugs: ~~#393~~
  
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windale - 2017-09-19

Yeah, for 'Echelon' I had to turn off 'detect loaders' and manually press play or, quickly insert Side B before the Tape Loading Error otherwise it doesn't load.

Here's a few more :-

Blood Brothers (1988) (Gremlin Graphics Software) [a] [48-128K] (9B7A4D9E)
Moon Strike (1987) (Mirrorsoft) (Side A) (EB8884EC)
Powerplay - Game of the Gods (1988)(Players Software) [128K] (A441819D)

Any alternate versions of games i've mentioned may also have trouble loading.

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- Philip Kendall - 2017-09-19
  
  Thanks.
  
  Blood Brothers added a test case and being tracked in [bugs:#395].
  
  Moon Strike being tracked in [bugs:#396] (not added as a test case yet because check_loaders would need to be extended to have some sort of timeout).
  
  Powerplay added as a test case and being tracked in [bugs:#397].
  
  I'd also imagine a lot of alternate versions would fail to load, but I think for now it's more useful to get coverage of a wide range of games rather than knowing that 6 different versions of Blood Brothers (or whatever) all fail to load.
  
  Related
  
  Bugs: ~~#395~~
  Bugs: #396
  Bugs: ~~#397~~
  
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windale - 2017-09-19

City Slicker (1986) (Hewson Consultants) (8EBF845E)

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- Philip Kendall - 2017-09-19
  
  Added as a test case and being tracked in [bugs:#394].
  
  Related
  
  Bugs: ~~#394~~
  
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