Re: [Fuge-devel] FW: modelling controlled vocabularies

[Junmin L. <ju...@pc...>]

Hi,
Sorry for bringing this again.
My 2c.

> my interest and provided Observation_set example that andy addressed was
> specifically a use case that we will need to encode in MAGEv2/FuGE.
> it's at the (perhaps dicey) level of linking the FuGE objects to
> ontology classes via ontology individuals and my concern is the best way
> to express it.
>
> it's not an issue when the ontology individual and the ontology class
> are essentially indistinguishable but that isn't always the case.

Theoratically I think we should be able to distinguish them. "Mr. Joe's 
age" is individual, "age" is class, "Mr. Joe's birth" is individual, "birth" is 
class.


> if birth is an individual/subclass/IS_A for InitialTimePoint, that
> doesn't seem like a property.  but if it encodes okay using a property
> for birth named IS_A which has the class IntitialTimePoint in the
> current model i can probably (unhappily) live with it.

Yes, hasBirth is legitimate subProperty for hasInitialTimePoint.

<owl:ObjectProperty rdf:ID="hasBirth">
   <rdfs:subPropertyOf rdf:resource="#hasInitialTimePoint"/>
</owl:ObjectProperty>

But I only know I can easily do them in owl, how to code xml, I am looking 
forward to Michael's examples.

Cheers, 
---junmin


>> From: fug...@li...
>> [mailto:fug...@li...] On Behalf
>> Of Angel Pizarro
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:46 AM
>> To: fug...@li...
>> Subject: Re: [Fuge-devel] FW: modelling controlled vocabularies
>>
>>
>> Trish Whetzel wrote:
>>>>>> I think, if I understand Andy correctly, that he would
>> use the IS_A
>>>>>> property to encode the superclass of an individual when
>> it is needed.  I
>>>>>> believe the concept of inheritance isn't exactly the
>> same as the use of
>>>>>> the IS_A property so I'm a bit leery of using it that
>> way.  Trish, any
>>>>>> thoughts on this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think that it is generally ok here. If A IS_A B then B
>> will inherit
>>>>> properties of A. Not sure what else a term would or would
>> not inherit by
>>>>> being in a IS_A relationship?.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That's an issue with the ontology reasoning layer and
>> outside the scope
>>>> of FuGE. Again, we should be really careful here to not
>> develop another
>>>> ontology specification langauge by accident!
>>>>
>>>
>>> It seems to be an issue with the way the xml is represented
>> and if FuGE
>>> docs will contain ontology information from both ontologies
>> in OBO syntax
>>> and OWL.
>>>
>>>
>> Apologies, you are absolutely right here. I thought this was in
>> reference to changing the model to account for various
>> ontology syntax.
>> angel
>>> Trish
>>>
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