Thread: [Freemind-developer] FW: Again about licenses
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From: Eric L. - F. <fre...@zo...> - 2008-03-23 19:27:25
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Hi, based on a separate email from Chris and the below answer, we're also fine with all the remaining files listed under [1]. Someone still needs to update those files and place them under MIT license. Chris? Dimitry? Thanks, Eric [1] http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Licensing ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: Asking for change of licenses for FreeMind files From: "Miika Nurminen" <min...@jy...> Date: Sat, March 22, 2008 19:09 To: "Eric Lavarde" <fre...@zo...> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Lavarde wrote: > Hello Miika, > > we've noticed recently that we carry certain files with licenses incompatible with the overall GPLv2 of FreeMind [1]. > > Very similar versions of the files currently in our CVS can be found on your mmTree site with MIT license, but I would have the merge back the changes, so I'd like to ask you to (re-)place the work given to FreeMind under MIT, GPLv2 or any other license compatible with GPLv2. > > Simple answer to this email with your OK will do the trick. OK. Please place the files under MIT license. Miika Nurminen -- Linux packager for FreeMind |
From: Eric L. - F. <fre...@zo...> - 2008-03-24 13:04:23
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Hi, again me and licenses: I've done some more searching and documented my conclusions on our wiki under http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Licensing#Licensing_of_components Some more decisions and actions to be taken. Let me know, Eric |
From: Christian F. (GMX) <chr...@gm...> - 2008-03-24 20:29:19
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> 2. usage of GPL-incompatible libraries: believing this FSF note > <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs> (/http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs/), > we can make sure that FreeMind can use GPL-incompatible libraries but > we need to make it explicit in our copyright. I (Eric L. > <http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=User:Ewl&action=edit> > 05:56, 24 Mar 2008 (PDT))suggest to ask the current and former > copyright holder and add a note in each source file that there is an > exception on GPL-incompatible libraries, and explicit this exception > in the "license" file. What does this mean pratically for us? Chris Eric Lavarde - FreeMind schrieb: > Hi, > > again me and licenses: I've done some more searching and documented my > conclusions on our wiki under > http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Licensing#Licensing_of_components > > Some more decisions and actions to be taken. > > Let me know, > Eric > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Freemind-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freemind-developer > > |
From: Eric L. - F. <fre...@zo...> - 2008-03-25 16:48:12
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Hi Chris, I thought that I was practical enough, but here more in details: 1. ask authorization from all copyright owners to do the following. 2. add one sentence along the lines of "The copyright holders of FreeMind grant a special exception in regard to the usage of non-GPL compatible but free libraries, as detailed in the license/copyright file." 3. in the license file, add accordingly a blurb adapted from the below link (the last template in the answer): > Linking [name of your program] statically or dynamically with other > modules is making a combined work based on [name of your program]. > Thus, the terms and conditions of the GNU General Public License cover > the whole combination. > > In addition, as a special exception, the copyright holders of [name of > your program] give you permission to combine [name of your program] > with free software programs or libraries that are released under the > GNU LGPL and with code included in the standard release of [name of > library] under the [name of library's license] (or modified versions > of such code, with unchanged license). You may copy and distribute > such a system following the terms of the GNU GPL for [name of your > program] and the licenses of the other code concerned{, provided that > you include the source code of that other code when and as the GNU GPL > requires distribution of source code}. > > Note that people who make modified versions of [name of your program] > are not obligated to grant this special exception for their modified > versions; it is their choice whether to do so. The GNU General Public > License gives permission to release a modified version without this > exception; this exception also makes it possible to release a modified > version which carries forward this exception. > Eric Christian Foltin (GMX) wrote: >> 2. usage of GPL-incompatible libraries: believing this FSF note >> <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs> (/http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs/), >> we can make sure that FreeMind can use GPL-incompatible libraries but >> we need to make it explicit in our copyright. I (Eric L. >> <http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=User:Ewl&action=edit> >> 05:56, 24 Mar 2008 (PDT))suggest to ask the current and former >> copyright holder and add a note in each source file that there is an >> exception on GPL-incompatible libraries, and explicit this exception >> in the "license" file. > What does this mean pratically for us? > > Chris > > > Eric Lavarde - FreeMind schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> again me and licenses: I've done some more searching and documented my >> conclusions on our wiki under >> http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Licensing#Licensing_of_components >> >> Some more decisions and actions to be taken. >> >> Let me know, >> Eric >> >> |
From: Christian F. (GMX) <chr...@gm...> - 2008-03-26 19:23:42
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Hi Eric, now, I get an idea. But, are these libraries, we refer to (jibx, etc.) "system libraries" in the sense of the link you gave? They are not normally part of the operating system, are they? IMHO, this exception is e.g. for GPL und W**dos, but not for our situation. Another idea I had: can't we put FreeMind under GPLv3, which is compatible to the Apache2.0 and we have much less problems. From the original license, we are allowed to use any successor of GPLv2. What do you think? Chris Eric Lavarde - FreeMind schrieb: > Hi Chris, > > I thought that I was practical enough, but here more in details: > 1. ask authorization from all copyright owners to do the following. > 2. add one sentence along the lines of "The copyright holders of > FreeMind grant a special exception in regard to the usage of non-GPL > compatible but free libraries, as detailed in the license/copyright file." > 3. in the license file, add accordingly a blurb adapted from the below > link (the last template in the answer): > > >> Linking [name of your program] statically or dynamically with other >> modules is making a combined work based on [name of your program]. >> Thus, the terms and conditions of the GNU General Public License cover >> the whole combination. >> >> In addition, as a special exception, the copyright holders of [name of >> your program] give you permission to combine [name of your program] >> with free software programs or libraries that are released under the >> GNU LGPL and with code included in the standard release of [name of >> library] under the [name of library's license] (or modified versions >> of such code, with unchanged license). You may copy and distribute >> such a system following the terms of the GNU GPL for [name of your >> program] and the licenses of the other code concerned{, provided that >> you include the source code of that other code when and as the GNU GPL >> requires distribution of source code}. >> >> Note that people who make modified versions of [name of your program] >> are not obligated to grant this special exception for their modified >> versions; it is their choice whether to do so. The GNU General Public >> License gives permission to release a modified version without this >> exception; this exception also makes it possible to release a modified >> version which carries forward this exception. >> >> > > > Eric > > Christian Foltin (GMX) wrote: > >>> 2. usage of GPL-incompatible libraries: believing this FSF note >>> <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs> (/http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs/), >>> we can make sure that FreeMind can use GPL-incompatible libraries but >>> we need to make it explicit in our copyright. I (Eric L. >>> <http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=User:Ewl&action=edit> >>> 05:56, 24 Mar 2008 (PDT))suggest to ask the current and former >>> copyright holder and add a note in each source file that there is an >>> exception on GPL-incompatible libraries, and explicit this exception >>> in the "license" file. >>> >> What does this mean pratically for us? >> >> Chris >> >> >> Eric Lavarde - FreeMind schrieb: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> again me and licenses: I've done some more searching and documented my >>> conclusions on our wiki under >>> http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Licensing#Licensing_of_components >>> >>> Some more decisions and actions to be taken. >>> >>> Let me know, >>> Eric >>> >>> >>> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Freemind-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freemind-developer > > |
From: Eric L. - F. <fre...@zo...> - 2008-03-27 20:51:29
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Hi, Christian Foltin (GMX) wrote: > Hi Eric, > > now, I get an idea. > But, are these libraries, we refer to (jibx, etc.) "system libraries" > in the sense of the link you gave? > They are not normally part of the operating system, are they? IMHO, > this exception is e.g. for > GPL und W**dos, but not for our situation. No, if those were system libraries, we wouldn't need to do the whole hocus-pocus, the exception is already part of the GPL. It's because those are not system libraries, that we need to add the exception explicitly. > > Another idea I had: can't we put FreeMind under GPLv3, which is > compatible to the Apache2.0 and > we have much less problems. From the original license, we are allowed > to use any successor of GPLv2. Also a good idea, that would solve also the issue with the GPLv3 license of the Eqn library. On the other hand, we then get issues with the GPL2 version of some libraries like JavaHelp2 and SimplyHTML and I don't think we can express an exception there... Eric > > What do you think? > > Chris > > Eric Lavarde - FreeMind schrieb: >> Hi Chris, >> >> I thought that I was practical enough, but here more in details: >> 1. ask authorization from all copyright owners to do the following. >> 2. add one sentence along the lines of "The copyright holders of >> FreeMind grant a special exception in regard to the usage of non-GPL >> compatible but free libraries, as detailed in the license/copyright file." >> 3. in the license file, add accordingly a blurb adapted from the below >> link (the last template in the answer): >> >> >>> Linking [name of your program] statically or dynamically with other >>> modules is making a combined work based on [name of your program]. >>> Thus, the terms and conditions of the GNU General Public License cover >>> the whole combination. >>> >>> In addition, as a special exception, the copyright holders of [name of >>> your program] give you permission to combine [name of your program] >>> with free software programs or libraries that are released under the >>> GNU LGPL and with code included in the standard release of [name of >>> library] under the [name of library's license] (or modified versions >>> of such code, with unchanged license). You may copy and distribute >>> such a system following the terms of the GNU GPL for [name of your >>> program] and the licenses of the other code concerned{, provided that >>> you include the source code of that other code when and as the GNU GPL >>> requires distribution of source code}. >>> >>> Note that people who make modified versions of [name of your program] >>> are not obligated to grant this special exception for their modified >>> versions; it is their choice whether to do so. The GNU General Public >>> License gives permission to release a modified version without this >>> exception; this exception also makes it possible to release a modified >>> version which carries forward this exception. >>> >>> >> >> >> Eric >> >> Christian Foltin (GMX) wrote: >> >>>> 2. usage of GPL-incompatible libraries: believing this FSF note >>>> <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs> (/http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs/), >>>> we can make sure that FreeMind can use GPL-incompatible libraries but >>>> we need to make it explicit in our copyright. I (Eric L. >>>> <http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=User:Ewl&action=edit> >>>> 05:56, 24 Mar 2008 (PDT))suggest to ask the current and former >>>> copyright holder and add a note in each source file that there is an >>>> exception on GPL-incompatible libraries, and explicit this exception >>>> in the "license" file. >>>> >>> What does this mean pratically for us? >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> Eric Lavarde - FreeMind schrieb: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> again me and licenses: I've done some more searching and documented my >>>> conclusions on our wiki under >>>> http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Licensing#Licensing_of_components >>>> >>>> Some more decisions and actions to be taken. >>>> >>>> Let me know, >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. 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