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Re: [fontforge-users] Unicode Glyphs not shown in Windows 10

[Zsigri G. <zs...@gm...>]

Where in Windows are they not shown? I can see them in Microsoft 365 Word.

.rhavin Grobert via fontforge-users <fon...@li...>
ezt írta (időpont: 2025. jún. 25., Sze, 18:50):

> I have this Font (see attachment) and the glyphs E25D, E25F, E27D, E27F
> are shown in fontforge but when I install the font in Windows, they are not
> shown. All others are there.
> Can anyone tell me why this happens?
> Best regards, rhavin

Re: [fontforge-users] Unicode Glyphs not shown in Windows 10

[David de B. <on...@dd...>]

I'm sorry, in my test I described 'FontForge activation'. That had to be 
*FontBase*, a font manager that shows it all, but (de)activates a single 
font or it's full family on the fly, instead of OS-central installs or 
deinstalls, shows a typeface family and it's different fonts. That way 
only what you need is loaded into memory.

David

Op 27-06-2025 om 18:32 schreef David de Beer:
> As the Apple result was positive, seeing it all, I tested on both 
> LinuxMint/Debian via FontBase activation and Windows10 on both 
> FontForge activation and installed font.
>
> The applications tested were LibreOffice Writer, Scribus DTP, Inkscape 
> (Win10: install demanded).
>
> Actually the results were failprove, in Scribus on Win10 even better 
> than on Linux. On the latter the E25x E27x sets were not show in the 
> symbols setup, but were added to the export field when typed.
>
> I'm afraid it is either a local fault, an application that not fully 
> supports symbols, or, as the Scribus test proved on Linux, still some 
> lack of experience with the magic of that paticular application.
>
> If you are interested in the images of the different views, just ask.
>
> Good luck finding out the cause.
> David
>
> Op 25-06-2025 om 18:35 schreef .rhavin Grobert via fontforge-users:
>> I have this Font (see attachment) and the glyphs E25D, E25F, E27D, 
>> E27F are shown in fontforge but when I install the font in Windows, 
>> they are not shown. All others are there.
>> Can anyone tell me why this happens?
>> Best regards, rhavin
>>
>>
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Re: [fontforge-users] Unicode Glyphs not shown in Windows 10

[Gé v. G. <gev...@gm...>]

On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 6:43 PM David J. Perry via fontforge-users <
fon...@li...> wrote:

> This goes back many years (15 to 20), so details are vague.  I do remember
> putting some glyphs in the the PUA, somewhere in the E000-E400 vicinity,
> and finding conflicts; the codepoints kept displaying as CJK characters if
> I recall correctly.  I can't remember if the problem was only in Word or in
> other programs as well.  I ended up moving the glyphs to locations further
> up in the PUA.
>
I have similar vague memories of characters in the PUA sometimes behaving
erratically.
My tentative conclusion back then was that Microsoft assumed some of the
character slots to contain its own glyphs, or some such thing, which caused
such compatibility issues.

So yes, if the OP can live with moving the problem characters to other
slots, that might be the easiest way to "solve" the problem.

Re: [fontforge-users] Unicode Glyphs not shown in Windows 10

[David de B. <on...@dd...>]

As the Apple result was positive, seeing it all, I tested on both 
LinuxMint/Debian via FontForge activation and Windows10 on both 
FontForge activation and installed font.

The applications tested were LibreOffice Writer, Scribus DTP, Inkscape 
(Win10: install demanded).

Actually the results were failprove, in Scribus on Win10 even better 
than on Linux. On the latter the E25x E27x sets were not show in the 
symbols setup, but were added to the export field when typed.

I'm afraid it is either a local fault, an application that not fully 
supports symbols, or, as the Scribus test proved on Linux, still some 
lack of experience with the magic of that paticular application.

If you are interested in the images of the different views, just ask.

Good luck finding out the cause.
David

Op 25-06-2025 om 18:35 schreef .rhavin Grobert via fontforge-users:
> I have this Font (see attachment) and the glyphs E25D, E25F, E27D, E27F are shown in fontforge but when I install the font in Windows, they are not shown. All others are there.
> Can anyone tell me why this happens?
> Best regards, rhavin
>
>
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Re: [fontforge-users] Unicode Glyphs not shown in Windows 10

[David J. P. <hos...@ve...>]

This goes back many years (15 to 20), so details are vague.  I do 
remember putting some glyphs in the the PUA, somewhere in the E000-E400 
vicinity, and finding conflicts; the codepoints kept displaying as CJK 
characters if I recall correctly.  I can't remember if the problem was 
only in Word or in other programs as well.  I ended up moving the glyphs 
to locations further up in the PUA.

Gé's suggestion to test in different apps (Word, LibreOffice, notepad, 
and others) is a good one.

On 6/26/2025 5:35 PM, Gé van Gasteren wrote:
> No reactions so far…
> And I don’t know either, so I can only write some useless details, 
> like that on my Mac, the glyphs display normally. ;-)
>
> A question:
> Is this behavior limited to certain apps?
> Or better: in which app(s) do you see the other glyphs, but not these 
> four?
>
> As they are in the Private Use Area, this might be a useful page for 
> testing purposes:
> https://www.alanwood.net/unicode/private_use_area.html
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 6:50 PM .rhavin Grobert via fontforge-users 
> <fon...@li...> wrote:
>
>     I have this Font (see attachment) and the glyphs E25D, E25F, E27D,
>     E27F are shown in fontforge but when I install the font in
>     Windows, they are not shown. All others are there.
>     Can anyone tell me why this happens?
>     Best regards, rhavin_______________________________________________
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Re: [fontforge-users] Unicode Glyphs not shown in Windows 10

[Gé v. G. <gev...@gm...>]

No reactions so far…
And I don’t know either, so I can only write some useless details, like
that on my Mac, the glyphs display normally. ;-)

A question:
Is this behavior limited to certain apps?
Or better: in which app(s) do you see the other glyphs, but not these four?

As they are in the Private Use Area, this might be a useful page for
testing purposes:
https://www.alanwood.net/unicode/private_use_area.html


On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 6:50 PM .rhavin Grobert via fontforge-users <
fon...@li...> wrote:

> I have this Font (see attachment) and the glyphs E25D, E25F, E27D, E27F
> are shown in fontforge but when I install the font in Windows, they are not
> shown. All others are there.
> Can anyone tell me why this happens?
> Best regards, rhavin_______________________________________________
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[fontforge-users] Unicode Glyphs not shown in Windows 10

[.rhavin G. <rh...@sh...>]

I have this Font (see attachment) and the glyphs E25D, E25F, E27D, E27F are shown in fontforge but when I install the font in Windows, they are not shown. All others are there.
Can anyone tell me why this happens?
Best regards, rhavin

Re: [fontforge-users] How do I select and move objects

[Gé v. G. <gev...@gm...>]

Have a look at this page:
http://designwithfontforge.com/en-US/Using_the_Fontforge_Drawing_Tools.html

On that page, scroll to (or search the page for) "the transform tools"


On Sun, May 25, 2025 at 12:01 AM Rob Arthan <rd...@le...> wrote:

> David,
>
> Thank you. Double-clicking does make a difference, but it seems to be a
> bit trickier than you describe and I still don’t see how you resize an
> object: I can move an object by double-clicking on the line but not
> releasing on the second click. The object then moves with the mouse (which
> solves one of my problems). If I double click and release, then clicking
> and moving seems to make a change to the geometry of the object by moving
> more (but not all) of the control points than it does without the previous
> double click. But how do I resize an object?
>
> Thanks for the second part of your reply too. That all seemed to make
> sense.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob.
>
> > On 24 May 2025, at 22:09, David de Beer <on...@dd...> wrote:
> >
> > it's quite simple actually: don't click the control points, but the line
> between with a double click. That will pick the full object.
> >
> > good luck,
> >    David
> >
> > Op 24-05-2025 om 22:30 schreef Rob Arthan:
> >> I created two fonts a few years ago by editing copies of the GNU
> FreeFont fonts using FontForge to create some new mathematical symbols that
> I need. I don’t recall having any significant problems with the FontForge
> Drawing Tools at the time. My fonts were based on the Serif and Mono fonts
> and I would now like to extend the coverage of my Mono font to include
> versions of some glyphs that are in the GNU Serif font but not in the GNU
> Mono fonts
> >>
> >> I am having great difficulty at getting (re)started with the FontForge
> drawing tools. To start with, I need to do little more than combine objects
> from existing glyphs by copying and then rearranging and resizing those
> objects in the new glyph. I have managed to copy and paste entire glyphs
> onto my new glyph, but then I can’t do anything useful with them. All I can
> do with the Select Tool is move control points around and so change the
> geometry of the objects I’ve pasted into the new glyph. What I want to do
> is to select entire objects and move and resize them. I’ve studied the
> section Using the FontForge Drawing Tools in the FontForge book quite
> carefully, but nothing seems to help.
> >>
> >> If it’s relevant, I am just copying and pasting within my version of
> the Mono font. I am not trying to copy and paste from one font to another.
> >>
> >> Apologies for asking such a basic question, but I am completely stuck
> on this.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Rob.
> >>
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Re: [fontforge-users] How do I select and move objects

[Rob A. <rd...@le...>]

David,

Thank you. Double-clicking does make a difference, but it seems to be a bit trickier than you describe and I still don’t see how you resize an object: I can move an object by double-clicking on the line but not releasing on the second click. The object then moves with the mouse (which solves one of my problems). If I double click and release, then clicking and moving seems to make a change to the geometry of the object by moving more (but not all) of the control points than it does without the previous double click. But how do I resize an object?

Thanks for the second part of your reply too. That all seemed to make sense.

Regards,

Rob.

> On 24 May 2025, at 22:09, David de Beer <on...@dd...> wrote:
> 
> it's quite simple actually: don't click the control points, but the line between with a double click. That will pick the full object.
> 
> good luck,
>    David
> 
> Op 24-05-2025 om 22:30 schreef Rob Arthan:
>> I created two fonts a few years ago by editing copies of the GNU FreeFont fonts using FontForge to create some new mathematical symbols that I need. I don’t recall having any significant problems with the FontForge Drawing Tools at the time. My fonts were based on the Serif and Mono fonts and I would now like to extend the coverage of my Mono font to include versions of some glyphs that are in the GNU Serif font but not in the GNU Mono fonts
>> 
>> I am having great difficulty at getting (re)started with the FontForge drawing tools. To start with, I need to do little more than combine objects from existing glyphs by copying and then rearranging and resizing those objects in the new glyph. I have managed to copy and paste entire glyphs onto my new glyph, but then I can’t do anything useful with them. All I can do with the Select Tool is move control points around and so change the geometry of the objects I’ve pasted into the new glyph. What I want to do is to select entire objects and move and resize them. I’ve studied the section Using the FontForge Drawing Tools in the FontForge book quite carefully, but nothing seems to help.
>> 
>> If it’s relevant, I am just copying and pasting within my version of the Mono font. I am not trying to copy and paste from one font to another.
>> 
>> Apologies for asking such a basic question, but I am completely stuck on this.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rob.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> fontforge-users mailing list
>> fon...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
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[fontforge-users] How do I select and move objects

[Rob A. <rd...@le...>]

I created two fonts a few years ago by editing copies of the GNU FreeFont fonts using FontForge to create some new mathematical symbols that I need. I don’t recall having any significant problems with the FontForge Drawing Tools at the time. My fonts were based on the Serif and Mono fonts and I would now like to extend the coverage of my Mono font to include versions of some glyphs that are in the GNU Serif font but not in the GNU Mono fonts

I am having great difficulty at getting (re)started with the FontForge drawing tools. To start with, I need to do little more than combine objects from existing glyphs by copying and then rearranging and resizing those objects in the new glyph. I have managed to copy and paste entire glyphs onto my new glyph, but then I can’t do anything useful with them. All I can do with the Select Tool is move control points around and so change the geometry of the objects I’ve pasted into the new glyph. What I want to do is to select entire objects and move and resize them. I’ve studied the section Using the FontForge Drawing Tools in the FontForge book quite carefully, but nothing seems to help.

If it’s relevant, I am just copying and pasting within my version of the Mono font. I am not trying to copy and paste from one font to another.

Apologies for asking such a basic question, but I am completely stuck on this.

Regards,

Rob. 

Re: [fontforge-users] missing o macron

[Gé v. G. <gev...@gm...>]

@Mariah & unsubscribing:
Writing in the forum doesn’t help; you have to follow the procedure,
unfortunately.
Which isn’t difficult, it’s just different than what we’re used to by now.
And yes, it’s a little complicated, because the list is in fact one of many
lists at Sourceforge.
Here are some instructions, posted in the forum by Skef last year:

*Folks - no one on the project has control over the SourceForge email list
infrastructure. If you want to unsubscribe you will have to do it yourself:*

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   5. Use your password to log towards the top of that page
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> life. Please *UNSUBSCRIBE ME!!!*
> Other places make it very easy to unsubscribe. I don't know why this
> particular email is so difficult. I have tried and tried. I DON'T WANT TO
> RECEIVE THIS EMAIL ANYMORE. PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THE EMAIL LIST. THANK YOU.
> *Mariah*
>
>

Re: [fontforge-users] missing o macron

[G.W. <gr...@pr...>]

When you signed up for the mailing list, you would have received a welcome email. In that email is a link to a page that contains your profile. Go there and you will see easy instructions on how to unsubscribe.

It is your responsibility to read the welcome email and understand these processes.

On Sunday, May 11th, 2025 at 8:46 AM, Mariah Wolfel via fontforge-users <fon...@li...> wrote:

> I have repeatedly asked to be unsubscribed to this list. For months. I wish I'd never heard of FontForge. I didn't know I'd wind up spammed for life. Please UNSUBSCRIBE ME!!!
> Other places make it very easy to unsubscribe. I don't know why this particular email is so difficult. I have tried and tried. I DON'T WANT TO RECEIVE THIS EMAIL ANYMORE. PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THE EMAIL LIST. THANK YOU.
> Mariah
>
> On Saturday, May 10, 2025 at 10:20:38 PM EDT, G.W. via fontforge-users <fon...@li...> wrote:
>
> I messed something up trying to create this.
>
> Now whenever I type an o in Scribus or LibreOffice Writer I get an omacron. And if I type an omacron I get an o.
>
> Anybody know how to fix this problem where all o's are displaying with omacron? I've looked at the glyph info of the typeface and all the unicode numbers are correct (e.g., 006F for o).
>
> On Wednesday, May 7th, 2025 at 8:54 AM, Local Fonts <loc...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> No one can edit a glyph separately from the font file. You need to send the font file for update, if you want to help you. Otherwise, combining diacritical marks are in the unicode range of uni030 to uni036F. Combining macron is uni0304. You can see this codepoint if you change the encoding of your font to ISO 10646-1 (Unicode, BMP)
>>
>> Encoding > Reencode > ISO 10646-1 (Unicode, BMP)
>>
>> View > GoTo > uni0304
>>
>> You go to combining macron which is an empty glyph. Copy the macron with codepoing uni00AF and name 'macron' and paste the macron in uni0304. After that select uni0304 and use
>>
>> Metrics > New Metrics Window
>>
>> Set the width of uni0304 to zero, LBearing to -120 (probably the RBearing will become also negative)
>>
>> Now use
>>
>> View > GoTo > Omacron [or codepoin uni014C]
>>
>> Let this glyph be selected. Now use
>>
>> Element > Build > Build Accented Glyph
>>
>> and you will have your Omacron. In the same way create the lowercase /omacron or any other accented glyph.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Stefan Peev
>>
>> • Local Fonts •
>> [Free and Commercial Fonts](https://localfonts.eu/shop/)
>> • Context • Ltd
>>
>> Publishing and typography
>> m. (+359) 898 616 515
>>
>> https://localfonts.eu/product-tag/fontlab/
>>
>> На ср, 7.05.2025 г. в 12:11 G.W. via fontforge-users <fon...@li...> написа:
>>
>>> Thank you for this kind offer. However, it makes me wonder if it would just be easier for you to add a macron over the "o" of the typeface I want. My desire to rotate the inner circle of an "o" is to "fix" a different typeface that contains a macron to more closely match my intended typeface. But I don't even know how to send you an individual glyph for such an edit.
>>>
>>> The solution is to spend the time needed to learn fontforge and accept that I will not be able to accomplish the macron creation in the near future. Therefore from here on out I should focus any mailing list inquiries to those intended for my ultimate learning.
>>>
>>> Thank you again for your reply.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 7th, 2025 at 1:14 AM, Local Fonts <loc...@gm...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It will be easier for me to make the changes in your font than to explain them. So if you want to help you, send me an e-mail: loc...@gm...
>>>>
>>>> Stefan Peev
>>>>
>>>> • Local Fonts •
>>>> [Free and Commercial Fonts](https://localfonts.eu/shop/)
>>>> • Context • Ltd
>>>>
>>>> Publishing and typography
>>>> m. (+359) 898 616 515
>>>>
>>>> https://localfonts.eu/product-tag/fontlab/
>>>>
>>>> На вт, 6.05.2025 г. в 17:54 Gé van Gasteren <gev...@gm...> написа:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, font creating is a highly complex business!
>>>>> Apart from Fontforge, you’ll need to familiarize yourself with Unicode, too…
>>>>>
>>>>> But your issue is not a "problem", it’s a basic skill for using Fontforge.
>>>>> I’d say, first play around with the possibilities while going through a tutorial to get comfortable with the user interface.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once you know about copying outlines (or complete glyphs), you can start on a "real’ project.
>>>>> You’d probably want to copy the spacing macron U+014d onto the combining one U+0304, then check that the width is zero and adjust the offset of the path so it combines well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, if you want to do things slightly differently, you can create a reference in U+0304 to U+014d.
>>>>> That way, when you modify the original macron, e.g. make it a little wider, the other one changes automatically. It’s all a matter of preference.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a manual online and I’ll throw in some more links for your perusal:
>>>>> https://fontforge.org/docs/index.html
>>>>> http://designwithfontforge.com/en-US/Diacritics_and_Accents.html
>>>>> https://viactiontype.net/a-complete-guide-to-creating-fonts-using-inkscape-fontforge/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 4:33 PM G.W. via fontforge-users <fon...@li...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am in need of printing an o macron character and the font I am using does not contain a combining macron (U+0304) nor the o macron (U+014D). The font does contain the macron itself U+00AF but how do I get it to appear over an "o"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have never used fontforge before and my initial experimentation with it proved overwhelming. To make most efficient use of my time, can advice be provided on the most time efficient path for me to follow in learning how to solve the problem I am facing with using fontforge?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do I need to learn how to create a combining macron?
>>>>>> Is there a way to drag the U+00AF macron over the "o"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any videos that give detailed tutorials on how to solve this problem using Fontforge?
>>>>>>
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Re: [fontforge-users] missing o macron

[אור י. נ. <o05...@gm...>]

please remove me from this conversation this is a total mistake

‫בתאריך יום א׳, 11 במאי 2025 ב-15:46 מאת ‪Mariah Wolfel via
fontforge-users‬‏ <‪fon...@li...‬‏>:‬

> I have repeatedly asked to be unsubscribed to this list. For months. I
> wish I'd never heard of FontForge. I didn't know I'd wind up spammed for
> life. Please *UNSUBSCRIBE ME!!!*
> Other places make it very easy to unsubscribe. I don't know why this
> particular email is so difficult. I have tried and tried. I DON'T WANT TO
> RECEIVE THIS EMAIL ANYMORE. PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THE EMAIL LIST. THANK YOU.
> *Mariah*
>
> On Saturday, May 10, 2025 at 10:20:38 PM EDT, G.W. via fontforge-users <
> fon...@li...> wrote:
>
>
> I messed something up trying to create this.
>
> Now whenever I type an o in Scribus or LibreOffice Writer I get an
> omacron. And if I type an omacron I get an o.
>
> Anybody know how to fix this problem where all o's are displaying with
> omacron? I've looked at the glyph info of the typeface and all the unicode
> numbers are correct (e.g., 006F for o).
>
> On Wednesday, May 7th, 2025 at 8:54 AM, Local Fonts <
> loc...@gm...> wrote:
>
> No one can edit a glyph separately from the font file. You need to send
> the font file for update, if you want to help you. Otherwise, combining
> diacritical marks are in the unicode range of uni030 to uni036F. Combining
> macron is uni0304. You can see this codepoint if you change the encoding of
> your font to ISO 10646-1 (Unicode, BMP)
>
> Encoding > Reencode > ISO 10646-1 (Unicode, BMP)
>
> View > GoTo > uni0304
>
> You go to combining macron which is an empty glyph. Copy the macron with
> codepoing uni00AF and name 'macron' and paste the macron in uni0304. After
> that select uni0304 and use
>
> Metrics > New Metrics Window
>
> Set the width of uni0304 to zero, LBearing to -120 (probably the RBearing
> will become also negative)
>
> Now use
>
> View > GoTo > Omacron [or codepoin uni014C]
>
> Let this glyph be selected. Now use
>
> Element > Build > Build Accented Glyph
>
> and you will have your Omacron. In the same way create the lowercase
> /omacron or any other accented glyph.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stefan Peev
>
>
> *• Local Fonts •*
> Free and Commercial Fonts <https://localfonts.eu/shop/>
> *• Context • Ltd*
> Publishing and typography
> m. (+359) 898 616 515
>
> <https://localfonts.eu/product-tag/fontlab/>
>
>
> На ср, 7.05.2025 г. в 12:11 G.W. via fontforge-users <
> fon...@li...> написа:
>
> Thank you for this kind offer. However, it makes me wonder if it would
> just be easier for you to add a macron over the "o" of the typeface I want.
> My desire to rotate the inner circle of an "o" is to "fix" a different
> typeface that contains a macron to more closely match my intended typeface.
> But I don't even know how to send you an individual glyph for such an edit.
>
> The solution is to spend the time needed to learn fontforge and accept
> that I will not be able to accomplish the macron creation in the near
> future. Therefore from here on out I should focus any mailing list
> inquiries to those intended for my ultimate learning.
>
> Thank you again for your reply.
>
> On Wednesday, May 7th, 2025 at 1:14 AM, Local Fonts <
> loc...@gm...> wrote:
>
> It will be easier for me to make the changes in your font than to explain
> them. So if you want to help you, send me an e-mail:
> loc...@gm...
>
> Stefan Peev
>
>
> *• Local Fonts •*
> Free and Commercial Fonts <https://localfonts.eu/shop/>
> *• Context • Ltd*
> Publishing and typography
> m. (+359) 898 616 515
>
> <https://localfonts.eu/product-tag/fontlab/>
>
>
> На вт, 6.05.2025 г. в 17:54 Gé van Gasteren <gev...@gm...>
> написа:
>
> Yes, font creating is a highly complex business!
> Apart from Fontforge, you’ll need to familiarize yourself with Unicode,
> too…
>
> But your issue is not a "problem", it’s a basic skill for using Fontforge.
> I’d say, first play around with the possibilities while going through a
> tutorial to get comfortable with the user interface.
>
> Once you know about copying outlines (or complete glyphs), you can start
> on a "real’ project.
> You’d probably want to copy the spacing macron U+014d onto the combining
> one U+0304, then check that the width is zero and adjust the offset of the
> path so it combines well.
>
> Or, if you want to do things slightly differently, you can create a
> reference in U+0304 to U+014d.
> That way, when you modify the original macron, e.g. make it a little
> wider, the other one changes automatically. It’s all a matter of
> preference.
>
> There is a manual online and I’ll throw in some more links for your
> perusal:
> https://fontforge.org/docs/index.html
> http://designwithfontforge.com/en-US/Diacritics_and_Accents.html
>
> https://viactiontype.net/a-complete-guide-to-creating-fonts-using-inkscape-fontforge/
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 4:33 PM G.W. via fontforge-users <
> fon...@li...> wrote:
>
> I am in need of printing an o macron character and the font I am using
> does not contain a combining macron (U+0304) nor the o macron (U+014D). The
> font does contain the macron itself U+00AF but how do I get it to appear
> over an "o"?
>
> I have never used fontforge before and my initial experimentation with it
> proved overwhelming. To make most efficient use of my time, can advice be
> provided on the most time efficient path for me to follow in learning how
> to solve the problem I am facing with using fontforge?
>
> Do I need to learn how to create a combining macron?
> Is there a way to drag the U+00AF macron over the "o"
>
> Are there any videos that give detailed tutorials on how to solve this
> problem using Fontforge?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> fontforge-users mailing list
> fon...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
> http://fontforge.10959.n7.nabble.com/User-f8781.html
>
> _______________________________________________
> fontforge-users mailing list
> fon...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
> http://fontforge.10959.n7.nabble.com/User-f8781.html
>
>
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> fon...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
> http://fontforge.10959.n7.nabble.com/User-f8781.html
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>
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Re: [fontforge-users] missing o macron

[Mariah W. <rea...@ya...>]

I have repeatedly asked to be unsubscribed to this list. For months. I wish I'd never heard of FontForge. I didn't know I'd wind up spammed for life. Please UNSUBSCRIBE ME!!!Other places make it very easy to unsubscribe. I don't know why this particular email is so difficult. I have tried and tried. I DON'T WANT TO RECEIVE THIS EMAIL ANYMORE. PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THE EMAIL LIST. THANK YOU.Mariah
    On Saturday, May 10, 2025 at 10:20:38 PM EDT, G.W. via fontforge-users <fon...@li...> wrote:  
 
 I messed something up trying to create this.
Now whenever I type an o in Scribus or LibreOffice Writer I get an omacron. And if I type an omacron I get an o.
Anybody know how to fix this problem where all o's are displaying with omacron? I've looked at the glyph info of the typeface and all the unicode numbers are correct (e.g., 006F for o).
    
 On Wednesday, May 7th, 2025 at 8:54 AM, Local Fonts <loc...@gm...> wrote:
 
 No one can edit a glyph separately from the font file. You need to send the font file for update, if you want to help you. Otherwise, combining diacritical marks are in the unicode range of uni030 to uni036F. Combining macron is uni0304. You can see this codepoint if you change the encoding of your font to ISO 10646-1 (Unicode, BMP)
Encoding > Reencode > ISO 10646-1 (Unicode, BMP)
View > GoTo > uni0304
You go to combining macron which is an empty glyph. Copy the macron with codepoing uni00AF and name 'macron' and paste the macron in uni0304. After that select uni0304 and use
Metrics > New Metrics Window
Set the width of uni0304 to zero, LBearing to -120 (probably the RBearing will become also negative)
Now use
View > GoTo > Omacron [or codepoin uni014C]
Let this glyph be selected. Now use
Element > Build > Build Accented Glyph
and you will have your Omacron. In the same way create the lowercase /omacron or any other accented glyph.
Best regards,
Stefan Peev 

• Local Fonts •Free and Commercial Fonts• Context • Ltd
Publishing and typographym. (+359) 898 616 515




На ср, 7.05.2025 г. в 12:11 G.W. via fontforge-users <fon...@li...> написа:

Thank you for this kind offer. However, it makes me wonder if it would just be easier for you to add a macron over the "o" of the typeface I want. My desire to rotate the inner circle of an "o" is to "fix" a different typeface that contains a macron to more closely match my intended typeface. But I don't even know how to send you an individual glyph for such an edit.
The solution is to spend the time needed to learn fontforge and accept that I will not be able to accomplish the macron creation in the near future. Therefore from here on out I should focus any mailing list inquiries to those intended for my ultimate learning.

Thank you again for your reply.
    
 On Wednesday, May 7th, 2025 at 1:14 AM, Local Fonts <loc...@gm...> wrote:
 
 It will be easier for me to make the changes in your font than to explain them. So if you want to help you, send me an e-mail: loc...@gm...
Stefan Peev

• Local Fonts •Free and Commercial Fonts• Context • Ltd
Publishing and typographym. (+359) 898 616 515




На вт, 6.05.2025 г. в 17:54 Gé van Gasteren <gev...@gm...> написа:

Yes, font creating is a highly complex business!Apart from Fontforge, you’ll need to familiarize yourself with Unicode, too…
But your issue is not a "problem", it’s a basic skill for using Fontforge.I’d say, first play around with the possibilities while going through a tutorial to get comfortable with the user interface.
Once you know about copying outlines (or complete glyphs), you can start on a "real’ project.You’d probably want to copy the spacing macron U+014d onto the combining one U+0304, then check that the width is zero and adjust the offset of the path so it combines well.
Or, if you want to do things slightly differently, you can create a reference in U+0304 to U+014d. That way, when you modify the original macron, e.g. make it a little wider, the other one changes automatically. It’s all a matter of preference. 

There is a manual online and I’ll throw in some more links for your perusal:https://fontforge.org/docs/index.htmlhttp://designwithfontforge.com/en-US/Diacritics_and_Accents.htmlhttps://viactiontype.net/a-complete-guide-to-creating-fonts-using-inkscape-fontforge/
On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 4:33 PM G.W. via fontforge-users <fon...@li...> wrote:

I am in need of printing an o macron character and the font I am using does not contain a combining macron (U+0304) nor the o macron (U+014D). The font does contain the macron itself U+00AF but how do I get it to appear over an "o"?

I have never used fontforge before and my initial experimentation with it proved overwhelming. To make most efficient use of my time, can advice be provided on the most time efficient path for me to follow in learning how to solve the problem I am facing with using fontforge?

Do I need to learn how to create a combining macron?
Is there a way to drag the U+00AF macron over the "o"

Are there any videos that give detailed tutorials on how to solve this problem using Fontforge?


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Re: [fontforge-users] missing o macron

[G.W. <gr...@pr...>]

I messed something up trying to create this.

Now whenever I type an o in Scribus or LibreOffice Writer I get an omacron. And if I type an omacron I get an o.

Anybody know how to fix this problem where all o's are displaying with omacron? I've looked at the glyph info of the typeface and all the unicode numbers are correct (e.g., 006F for o).

On Wednesday, May 7th, 2025 at 8:54 AM, Local Fonts <loc...@gm...> wrote:

> No one can edit a glyph separately from the font file. You need to send the font file for update, if you want to help you. Otherwise, combining diacritical marks are in the unicode range of uni030 to uni036F. Combining macron is uni0304. You can see this codepoint if you change the encoding of your font to ISO 10646-1 (Unicode, BMP)
>
> Encoding > Reencode > ISO 10646-1 (Unicode, BMP)
>
> View > GoTo > uni0304
>
> You go to combining macron which is an empty glyph. Copy the macron with codepoing uni00AF and name 'macron' and paste the macron in uni0304. After that select uni0304 and use
>
> Metrics > New Metrics Window
>
> Set the width of uni0304 to zero, LBearing to -120 (probably the RBearing will become also negative)
>
> Now use
>
> View > GoTo > Omacron [or codepoin uni014C]
>
> Let this glyph be selected. Now use
>
> Element > Build > Build Accented Glyph
>
> and you will have your Omacron. In the same way create the lowercase /omacron or any other accented glyph.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stefan Peev
>
> • Local Fonts •
> [Free and Commercial Fonts](https://localfonts.eu/shop/)
> • Context • Ltd
> Publishing and typography
> m. (+359) 898 616 515
>
> https://localfonts.eu/product-tag/fontlab/
>
> На ср, 7.05.2025 г. в 12:11 G.W. via fontforge-users <fon...@li...> написа:
>
>> Thank you for this kind offer. However, it makes me wonder if it would just be easier for you to add a macron over the "o" of the typeface I want. My desire to rotate the inner circle of an "o" is to "fix" a different typeface that contains a macron to more closely match my intended typeface. But I don't even know how to send you an individual glyph for such an edit.
>>
>> The solution is to spend the time needed to learn fontforge and accept that I will not be able to accomplish the macron creation in the near future. Therefore from here on out I should focus any mailing list inquiries to those intended for my ultimate learning.
>>
>> Thank you again for your reply.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 7th, 2025 at 1:14 AM, Local Fonts <loc...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>>> It will be easier for me to make the changes in your font than to explain them. So if you want to help you, send me an e-mail: loc...@gm...
>>>
>>> Stefan Peev
>>>
>>> • Local Fonts •
>>> [Free and Commercial Fonts](https://localfonts.eu/shop/)
>>> • Context • Ltd
>>> Publishing and typography
>>> m. (+359) 898 616 515
>>>
>>> https://localfonts.eu/product-tag/fontlab/
>>>
>>> На вт, 6.05.2025 г. в 17:54 Gé van Gasteren <gev...@gm...> написа:
>>>
>>>> Yes, font creating is a highly complex business!
>>>> Apart from Fontforge, you’ll need to familiarize yourself with Unicode, too…
>>>>
>>>> But your issue is not a "problem", it’s a basic skill for using Fontforge.
>>>> I’d say, first play around with the possibilities while going through a tutorial to get comfortable with the user interface.
>>>>
>>>> Once you know about copying outlines (or complete glyphs), you can start on a "real’ project.
>>>> You’d probably want to copy the spacing macron U+014d onto the combining one U+0304, then check that the width is zero and adjust the offset of the path so it combines well.
>>>>
>>>> Or, if you want to do things slightly differently, you can create a reference in U+0304 to U+014d.
>>>> That way, when you modify the original macron, e.g. make it a little wider, the other one changes automatically. It’s all a matter of preference.
>>>>
>>>> There is a manual online and I’ll throw in some more links for your perusal:
>>>> https://fontforge.org/docs/index.html
>>>> http://designwithfontforge.com/en-US/Diacritics_and_Accents.html
>>>> https://viactiontype.net/a-complete-guide-to-creating-fonts-using-inkscape-fontforge/
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 4:33 PM G.W. via fontforge-users <fon...@li...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am in need of printing an o macron character and the font I am using does not contain a combining macron (U+0304) nor the o macron (U+014D). The font does contain the macron itself U+00AF but how do I get it to appear over an "o"?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never used fontforge before and my initial experimentation with it proved overwhelming. To make most efficient use of my time, can advice be provided on the most time efficient path for me to follow in learning how to solve the problem I am facing with using fontforge?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I need to learn how to create a combining macron?
>>>>> Is there a way to drag the U+00AF macron over the "o"
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any videos that give detailed tutorials on how to solve this problem using Fontforge?
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> fontforge-users mailing list
>>>>> fon...@li...
>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
>>>>> http://fontforge.10959.n7.nabble.com/User-f8781.html
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> fon...@li...
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
>>>> http://fontforge.10959.n7.nabble.com/User-f8781.html
>>
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Re: [fontforge-users] missing o macron

[אור י. נ. <o05...@gm...>]

Please don't worry about it

‫בתאריך יום ד׳, 7 במאי 2025 ב-16:01 מאת ‪Gé van Gasteren‬‏ <‪
gev...@gm...‬‏>:‬

> On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 11:09 AM G.W. via fontforge-users <
> fon...@li...> wrote:
>
>> My desire to rotate the inner circle of an "o" is to "fix" a different
>> typeface that contains a macron to more closely match my intended typeface.
>>
>
> Thank you for that more detailed description of the actual goal!
> This suggests a simpler and especially quicker solution than editing your
> preferred typeface (YPT):
>
> Type your text in YPT, then add in a combining macron formatted in a
> different font.
> Something like the word "one" in this picture
> <https://img1.od-cdn.com/ImageType-400/0293-1/120/DEA/12/%7B120DEA12-E4D3-4869-8E08-84A9A1CAA15B%7DImg400.jpg>,
> but replacing the "n" by a combining macron.
>
> It would be helpful to know in which application you want to use that ô
> because how well the above "trick" works – and if it’s possible at all –
> depends on your software environment.
>
> In case the embedded link to the picture doesn’t come through, here it is
> again as message text:
>
> https://img1.od-cdn.com/ImageType-400/0293-1/120/DEA/12/%7B120DEA12-E4D3-4869-8E08-84A9A1CAA15B%7DImg400.jpg
>
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Re: [fontforge-users] missing o macron

[Gé v. G. <gev...@gm...>]

On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 11:09 AM G.W. via fontforge-users <
fon...@li...> wrote:

> My desire to rotate the inner circle of an "o" is to "fix" a different
> typeface that contains a macron to more closely match my intended typeface.
>

Thank you for that more detailed description of the actual goal!
This suggests a simpler and especially quicker solution than editing your
preferred typeface (YPT):

Type your text in YPT, then add in a combining macron formatted in a
different font.
Something like the word "one" in this picture
<https://img1.od-cdn.com/ImageType-400/0293-1/120/DEA/12/%7B120DEA12-E4D3-4869-8E08-84A9A1CAA15B%7DImg400.jpg>,
but replacing the "n" by a combining macron.

It would be helpful to know in which application you want to use that ô
because how well the above "trick" works – and if it’s possible at all –
depends on your software environment.

In case the embedded link to the picture doesn’t come through, here it is
again as message text:
https://img1.od-cdn.com/ImageType-400/0293-1/120/DEA/12/%7B120DEA12-E4D3-4869-8E08-84A9A1CAA15B%7DImg400.jpg

Re: [fontforge-users] missing o macron

[Local F. <loc...@gm...>]

No one can edit a glyph separately from the font file. You need to send the
font file for update, if you want to help you. Otherwise,
combining diacritical marks are in the unicode range of uni030 to uni036F.
Combining macron is uni0304. You can see this codepoint if you change the
encoding of your font to ISO 10646-1 (Unicode, BMP)

Encoding > Reencode > ISO 10646-1 (Unicode, BMP)

View > GoTo > uni0304

You go to combining macron which is an empty glyph. Copy the macron with
codepoing uni00AF and name 'macron' and paste the macron in uni0304. After
that select uni0304 and use

Metrics > New Metrics Window

Set the width of uni0304 to zero, LBearing to -120 (probably the RBearing
will become also negative)

Now use

View > GoTo > Omacron [or codepoin uni014C]

Let this glyph be selected. Now use

Element > Build > Build Accented Glyph

and you will have your Omacron. In the same way create the lowercase
/omacron or any other accented glyph.

Best regards,

Stefan Peev


*• Local Fonts •*
Free and Commercial Fonts <https://localfonts.eu/shop/>
*• Context • Ltd*
Publishing and typography
m. (+359) 898 616 515

<https://localfonts.eu/product-tag/fontlab/>


На ср, 7.05.2025 г. в 12:11 G.W. via fontforge-users <
fon...@li...> написа:

> Thank you for this kind offer. However, it makes me wonder if it would
> just be easier for you to add a macron over the "o" of the typeface I want.
> My desire to rotate the inner circle of an "o" is to "fix" a different
> typeface that contains a macron to more closely match my intended typeface.
> But I don't even know how to send you an individual glyph for such an edit.
>
> The solution is to spend the time needed to learn fontforge and accept
> that I will not be able to accomplish the macron creation in the near
> future. Therefore from here on out I should focus any mailing list
> inquiries to those intended for my ultimate learning.
>
> Thank you again for your reply.
>
> On Wednesday, May 7th, 2025 at 1:14 AM, Local Fonts <
> loc...@gm...> wrote:
>
> It will be easier for me to make the changes in your font than to explain
> them. So if you want to help you, send me an e-mail:
> loc...@gm...
>
> Stefan Peev
>
>
> *• Local Fonts •*
> Free and Commercial Fonts <https://localfonts.eu/shop/>
> *• Context • Ltd*
> Publishing and typography
> m. (+359) 898 616 515
>
> <https://localfonts.eu/product-tag/fontlab/>
>
>
> На вт, 6.05.2025 г. в 17:54 Gé van Gasteren <gev...@gm...>
> написа:
>
>> Yes, font creating is a highly complex business!
>> Apart from Fontforge, you’ll need to familiarize yourself with Unicode,
>> too…
>>
>> But your issue is not a "problem", it’s a basic skill for using Fontforge.
>> I’d say, first play around with the possibilities while going through a
>> tutorial to get comfortable with the user interface.
>>
>> Once you know about copying outlines (or complete glyphs), you can start
>> on a "real’ project.
>> You’d probably want to copy the spacing macron U+014d onto the combining
>> one U+0304, then check that the width is zero and adjust the offset of the
>> path so it combines well.
>>
>> Or, if you want to do things slightly differently, you can create a
>> reference in U+0304 to U+014d.
>> That way, when you modify the original macron, e.g. make it a little
>> wider, the other one changes automatically. It’s all a matter of
>> preference.
>>
>> There is a manual online and I’ll throw in some more links for your
>> perusal:
>> https://fontforge.org/docs/index.html
>> http://designwithfontforge.com/en-US/Diacritics_and_Accents.html
>>
>> https://viactiontype.net/a-complete-guide-to-creating-fonts-using-inkscape-fontforge/
>>
>> On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 4:33 PM G.W. via fontforge-users <
>> fon...@li...> wrote:
>>
>>> I am in need of printing an o macron character and the font I am using
>>> does not contain a combining macron (U+0304) nor the o macron (U+014D). The
>>> font does contain the macron itself U+00AF but how do I get it to appear
>>> over an "o"?
>>>
>>> I have never used fontforge before and my initial experimentation with
>>> it proved overwhelming. To make most efficient use of my time, can advice
>>> be provided on the most time efficient path for me to follow in learning
>>> how to solve the problem I am facing with using fontforge?
>>>
>>> Do I need to learn how to create a combining macron?
>>> Is there a way to drag the U+00AF macron over the "o"
>>>
>>> Are there any videos that give detailed tutorials on how to solve this
>>> problem using Fontforge?
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fontforge-users mailing list
>>> fon...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
>>> http://fontforge.10959.n7.nabble.com/User-f8781.html
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> fontforge-users mailing list
>> fon...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
>> http://fontforge.10959.n7.nabble.com/User-f8781.html
>
>
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Re: [fontforge-users] missing o macron

[G.W. <gr...@pr...>]

Thank you for this kind offer. However, it makes me wonder if it would just be easier for you to add a macron over the "o" of the typeface I want. My desire to rotate the inner circle of an "o" is to "fix" a different typeface that contains a macron to more closely match my intended typeface. But I don't even know how to send you an individual glyph for such an edit.

The solution is to spend the time needed to learn fontforge and accept that I will not be able to accomplish the macron creation in the near future. Therefore from here on out I should focus any mailing list inquiries to those intended for my ultimate learning.

Thank you again for your reply.

On Wednesday, May 7th, 2025 at 1:14 AM, Local Fonts <loc...@gm...> wrote:

> It will be easier for me to make the changes in your font than to explain them. So if you want to help you, send me an e-mail: loc...@gm...
>
> Stefan Peev
>
> • Local Fonts •
> [Free and Commercial Fonts](https://localfonts.eu/shop/)
> • Context • Ltd
> Publishing and typography
> m. (+359) 898 616 515
>
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>
> На вт, 6.05.2025 г. в 17:54 Gé van Gasteren <gev...@gm...> написа:
>
>> Yes, font creating is a highly complex business!
>> Apart from Fontforge, you’ll need to familiarize yourself with Unicode, too…
>>
>> But your issue is not a "problem", it’s a basic skill for using Fontforge.
>> I’d say, first play around with the possibilities while going through a tutorial to get comfortable with the user interface.
>>
>> Once you know about copying outlines (or complete glyphs), you can start on a "real’ project.
>> You’d probably want to copy the spacing macron U+014d onto the combining one U+0304, then check that the width is zero and adjust the offset of the path so it combines well.
>>
>> Or, if you want to do things slightly differently, you can create a reference in U+0304 to U+014d.
>> That way, when you modify the original macron, e.g. make it a little wider, the other one changes automatically. It’s all a matter of preference.
>>
>> There is a manual online and I’ll throw in some more links for your perusal:
>> https://fontforge.org/docs/index.html
>> http://designwithfontforge.com/en-US/Diacritics_and_Accents.html
>> https://viactiontype.net/a-complete-guide-to-creating-fonts-using-inkscape-fontforge/
>>
>> On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 4:33 PM G.W. via fontforge-users <fon...@li...> wrote:
>>
>>> I am in need of printing an o macron character and the font I am using does not contain a combining macron (U+0304) nor the o macron (U+014D). The font does contain the macron itself U+00AF but how do I get it to appear over an "o"?
>>>
>>> I have never used fontforge before and my initial experimentation with it proved overwhelming. To make most efficient use of my time, can advice be provided on the most time efficient path for me to follow in learning how to solve the problem I am facing with using fontforge?
>>>
>>> Do I need to learn how to create a combining macron?
>>> Is there a way to drag the U+00AF macron over the "o"
>>>
>>> Are there any videos that give detailed tutorials on how to solve this problem using Fontforge?
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fontforge-users mailing list
>>> fon...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
>>> http://fontforge.10959.n7.nabble.com/User-f8781.html
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Re: [fontforge-users] how to isolate inner circle in letter "o"

[Gé v. G. <gev...@gm...>]

On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 2:56 AM G.W. via fontforge-users <
fon...@li...> wrote:

> I desire to rotate the inner most circle in the letter "o" but cannot
> figure out how to isolate the inner circle part so only that rotates 7
> degrees clockwise. My attempts have only resulted in rotating the entire
> glyph.
>
> Is this something anyone could explain or direct me to a tutorial section
> that speaks directly to this matter?


Again, your problem can be solved by first familiarizing yourself with
Fontforge’s user interface.

E.g. how you can edit glyphs as a whole vs go inside and edit their paths
and points.
https://fontforge.org/docs/ui/mainviews/fontview.html
https://fontforge.org/docs/ui/mainviews/charview.html

Re: [fontforge-users] how to isolate inner circle in letter "o"

[Local F. <loc...@gm...>]

Select one point in the inner contour. Then

*Edit > Select > Points on Selected Contour*.

Thus you select all points on the inner contour. After that

*Element > Transformations > Transform > Move > Rotate*

I hope this helps.

Stefan Peev


*• Local Fonts •*
Free and Commercial Fonts <https://localfonts.eu/shop/>
*• Context • Ltd*
Publishing and typography
m. (+359) 898 616 515

<https://localfonts.eu/product-tag/fontlab/>


На ср, 7.05.2025 г. в 3:54 G.W. via fontforge-users <
fon...@li...> написа:

> I desire to rotate the inner most circle in the letter "o" but cannot
> figure out how to isolate the inner circle part so only that rotates 7
> degrees clockwise. My attempts have only resulted in rotating the entire
> glyph.
>
> Is this something anyone could explain or direct me to a tutorial section
> that speaks directly to this matter?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> fontforge-users mailing list
> fon...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
> http://fontforge.10959.n7.nabble.com/User-f8781.html
>

Re: [fontforge-users] missing o macron

[Local F. <loc...@gm...>]

It will be easier for me to make the changes in your font than to explain
them. So if you want to help you, send me an e-mail: loc...@gm...

Stefan Peev


*• Local Fonts •*
Free and Commercial Fonts <https://localfonts.eu/shop/>
*• Context • Ltd*
Publishing and typography
m. (+359) 898 616 515

<https://localfonts.eu/product-tag/fontlab/>


На вт, 6.05.2025 г. в 17:54 Gé van Gasteren <gev...@gm...>
написа:

> Yes, font creating is a highly complex business!
> Apart from Fontforge, you’ll need to familiarize yourself with Unicode,
> too…
>
> But your issue is not a "problem", it’s a basic skill for using Fontforge.
> I’d say, first play around with the possibilities while going through a
> tutorial to get comfortable with the user interface.
>
> Once you know about copying outlines (or complete glyphs), you can start
> on a "real’ project.
> You’d probably want to copy the spacing macron U+014d onto the combining
> one U+0304, then check that the width is zero and adjust the offset of the
> path so it combines well.
>
> Or, if you want to do things slightly differently, you can create a
> reference in U+0304 to U+014d.
> That way, when you modify the original macron, e.g. make it a little
> wider, the other one changes automatically. It’s all a matter of
> preference.
>
> There is a manual online and I’ll throw in some more links for your
> perusal:
> https://fontforge.org/docs/index.html
> http://designwithfontforge.com/en-US/Diacritics_and_Accents.html
>
> https://viactiontype.net/a-complete-guide-to-creating-fonts-using-inkscape-fontforge/
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 4:33 PM G.W. via fontforge-users <
> fon...@li...> wrote:
>
>> I am in need of printing an o macron character and the font I am using
>> does not contain a combining macron (U+0304) nor the o macron (U+014D). The
>> font does contain the macron itself U+00AF but how do I get it to appear
>> over an "o"?
>>
>> I have never used fontforge before and my initial experimentation with it
>> proved overwhelming. To make most efficient use of my time, can advice be
>> provided on the most time efficient path for me to follow in learning how
>> to solve the problem I am facing with using fontforge?
>>
>> Do I need to learn how to create a combining macron?
>> Is there a way to drag the U+00AF macron over the "o"
>>
>> Are there any videos that give detailed tutorials on how to solve this
>> problem using Fontforge?
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> fontforge-users mailing list
>> fon...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
>> http://fontforge.10959.n7.nabble.com/User-f8781.html
>>
> _______________________________________________
> fontforge-users mailing list
> fon...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
> http://fontforge.10959.n7.nabble.com/User-f8781.html

[fontforge-users] how to isolate inner circle in letter "o"

[G.W. <gr...@pr...>]

I desire to rotate the inner most circle in the letter "o" but cannot figure out how to isolate the inner circle part so only that rotates 7 degrees clockwise. My attempts have only resulted in rotating the entire glyph.

Is this something anyone could explain or direct me to a tutorial section that speaks directly to this matter?

Re: [fontforge-users] missing o macron

[Gé v. G. <gev...@gm...>]

Yes, font creating is a highly complex business!
Apart from Fontforge, you’ll need to familiarize yourself with Unicode, too…

But your issue is not a "problem", it’s a basic skill for using Fontforge.
I’d say, first play around with the possibilities while going through a
tutorial to get comfortable with the user interface.

Once you know about copying outlines (or complete glyphs), you can start on
a "real’ project.
You’d probably want to copy the spacing macron U+014d onto the combining
one U+0304, then check that the width is zero and adjust the offset of the
path so it combines well.

Or, if you want to do things slightly differently, you can create a
reference in U+0304 to U+014d.
That way, when you modify the original macron, e.g. make it a little wider,
the other one changes automatically. It’s all a matter of preference.

There is a manual online and I’ll throw in some more links for your perusal:
https://fontforge.org/docs/index.html
http://designwithfontforge.com/en-US/Diacritics_and_Accents.html
https://viactiontype.net/a-complete-guide-to-creating-fonts-using-inkscape-fontforge/

On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 4:33 PM G.W. via fontforge-users <
fon...@li...> wrote:

> I am in need of printing an o macron character and the font I am using
> does not contain a combining macron (U+0304) nor the o macron (U+014D). The
> font does contain the macron itself U+00AF but how do I get it to appear
> over an "o"?
>
> I have never used fontforge before and my initial experimentation with it
> proved overwhelming. To make most efficient use of my time, can advice be
> provided on the most time efficient path for me to follow in learning how
> to solve the problem I am facing with using fontforge?
>
> Do I need to learn how to create a combining macron?
> Is there a way to drag the U+00AF macron over the "o"
>
> Are there any videos that give detailed tutorials on how to solve this
> problem using Fontforge?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> fontforge-users mailing list
> fon...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users
> http://fontforge.10959.n7.nabble.com/User-f8781.html
>

[fontforge-users] missing o macron

[G.W. <gr...@pr...>]

I am in need of printing an o macron character and the font I am using does not contain a combining macron (U+0304) nor the o macron (U+014D). The font does contain the macron itself U+00AF but how do I get it to appear over an "o"?

I have never used fontforge before and my initial experimentation with it proved overwhelming. To make most efficient use of my time, can advice be provided on the most time efficient path for me to follow in learning how to solve the problem I am facing with using fontforge?

Do I need to learn how to create a combining macron?
Is there a way to drag the U+00AF macron over the "o"

Are there any videos that give detailed tutorials on how to solve this problem using Fontforge?