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Re: [Fofredux-devel] changelog?

[Kevin <ke...@dr...>]

Evan Roth wrote:
> do we have someone in charge of keeping the changelog up to date, or
> is that for whoever has made the changes?
>
In the past, Andrew would add stuff to the changelog shortly before 
release.   I like the idea of sharing responsibility so things don't get 
overlooked.

Re: [Fofredux-devel] options page redone

[Kevin <ke...@dr...>]

Evan Roth wrote:
> hey guys,
>
> i've redone the options page in preparation for the redesign of the site:
> - according the design images, i've changed all the yes/no radios into
> checkboxes
> - it is now valid xhtml without tables (except for a few lines coming
> from header.php, which are still on the todo list)  [so khaled can go
> nuts]
> - i've reorganized the list of items a bit, beginning to group them in
> various sections.  i've just thrown it together quickly, so we can
> change that as needed
> - on the backend, i've redone the saving of items, since we were
> always saving a value, regardless of what it is.  i've put a bunch of
> checks in there, so we only change it when it's actually been changed.
> this also means that if a user sticks with a default value, it will
> not show up in the database
>
> I've added 1 bug that i've found in the process to the tracker at
> sourceforge.  for whatever reason, you guys drop the table and set it
> back up in install.php.  in the past, this was probably not an issue
> with only 2 options...but now that our list is growing, we can't
> afford to do this as it will lose all the user's settings.
>
The explicit drop/recreate of the config table was due to the table 
originally having a different structure.  That was a few months ago, so 
I don't think it's needed anymore.

-Kevin

[Fofredux-devel] options page redone

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

hey guys,

i've redone the options page in preparation for the redesign of the site:
- according the design images, i've changed all the yes/no radios into
checkboxes
- it is now valid xhtml without tables (except for a few lines coming
from header.php, which are still on the todo list)  [so khaled can go
nuts]
- i've reorganized the list of items a bit, beginning to group them in
various sections.  i've just thrown it together quickly, so we can
change that as needed
- on the backend, i've redone the saving of items, since we were
always saving a value, regardless of what it is.  i've put a bunch of
checks in there, so we only change it when it's actually been changed.
 this also means that if a user sticks with a default value, it will
not show up in the database

I've added 1 bug that i've found in the process to the tracker at
sourceforge.  for whatever reason, you guys drop the table and set it
back up in install.php.  in the past, this was probably not an issue
with only 2 options...but now that our list is growing, we can't
afford to do this as it will lose all the user's settings.

/evan

[Fofredux-devel] changelog?

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

do we have someone in charge of keeping the changelog up to date, or
is that for whoever has made the changes?

[Fofredux-devel] sort by cache time

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

Hey,

so another update to the options...you can now sort your feeds by
cache time, as opposed by the default publish time.

this allows the user to force new items always to the top (or bottom),
which is useful in several different circumstances...mainly various
timezones and adding of new feeds.

for example, if you don't subscribe already, you can add the feed to A
List Apart (www.alistapart.com/rss.xml), which pulls in stuff from the
16th of April.  normally, these would be pretty well hidden if you
have unread items from this week, but with this new option enabled,
they jump to the top.

1 note:  due to the bug with mysql updating your cache_time when you
mark something read/saved, this feature will not completely work on
non-new items for user's who haven't manually fixed the database bug.=20
I think Kevin is working on a fix for this...so it should be ok
shortly.

/evan

[Fofredux-devel] Gzip compression results

[Miles B. <mil...@gm...>]

This is a feed with a graphic in almost every article.

http://us.gizmodo.com/

http://65.39.84.166/fofredux_0.4-dev/view.php?feed=3D17 is gzipped

Original Size: 74 K
Gzipped Size: 16 K
Data Savings: 78.38%

This is my feed for Digg.com

http://65.39.84.166/fofredux_0.4-dev/view.php?feed=3D14 is gzipped

Original Size: 58 K
Gzipped Size: 10 K
Data Savings: 82.76%

This is Wired.com

http://65.39.84.166/fofredux_0.4-dev/view.php?feed=3D37 is gzipped

Original Size: 15 K
Gzipped Size: 3 K
Data Savings: 80%

This is for azcentral.com

http://65.39.84.166/fofredux_0.4-dev/view.php?feed=3D7 is gzipped

Original Size: 27 K
Gzipped Size: 4 K
Data Savings: 85.19%

Pretty impressive results. :)

Re: [Fofredux-devel] New option in the snapshot

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

so the panel.php is updated...feel free to snag it from SVN

On 4/28/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote:
> ok, then i'll add it to the panel right away...was just going to start
> on order by date issue...but i'll finish the other first.
>
> my guess is that web page can't get feedback, due to the login.  you'd
> have to disable the login, based on my note in the other mail.  simply
> comment out that one line, by adding // before it.
>
> On 4/28/06, Miles Beck <mil...@gm...> wrote:
> > On 4/28/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote:
> > > yeah, i wasn't sure how that was intended to work...
> > > i interpreted the feature request to mean "list only feeds in the
> > > sidebar with unread items"
> > >
> > > shall i implement this also on the panel?  it's kind of redundant
> > > there, since you are constantly clicking between panel and the
> > > specific feed.
> >
> > Personally I would like to have this added to the Panel view as well.
> > Then you only see the feeds that have new content in them. And as it's
> > an option, if someone does not like it they can leave it turned off.
> >
> > When I tried the gzip test page it kept coming back and saying the
> > page was blank. So I'm not sure on how to get it to work. Though I
> > would like to see what performance increase I am seeing.
> >
> > -Miles
> >
>

Re: [Fofredux-devel] New option in the snapshot

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

ok, then i'll add it to the panel right away...was just going to start
on order by date issue...but i'll finish the other first.

my guess is that web page can't get feedback, due to the login.  you'd
have to disable the login, based on my note in the other mail.  simply
comment out that one line, by adding // before it.

On 4/28/06, Miles Beck <mil...@gm...> wrote:
> On 4/28/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote:
> > yeah, i wasn't sure how that was intended to work...
> > i interpreted the feature request to mean "list only feeds in the
> > sidebar with unread items"
> >
> > shall i implement this also on the panel?  it's kind of redundant
> > there, since you are constantly clicking between panel and the
> > specific feed.
>
> Personally I would like to have this added to the Panel view as well.
> Then you only see the feeds that have new content in them. And as it's
> an option, if someone does not like it they can leave it turned off.
>
> When I tried the gzip test page it kept coming back and saying the
> page was blank. So I'm not sure on how to get it to work. Though I
> would like to see what performance increase I am seeing.
>
> -Miles
>

Re: [Fofredux-devel] New option in the snapshot

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

yeah, i wasn't sure how that was intended to work...
i interpreted the feature request to mean "list only feeds in the
sidebar with unread items"

shall i implement this also on the panel?  it's kind of redundant
there, since you are constantly clicking between panel and the
specific feed.

in the end, it's a quick addition, so i let you all decide...i'll
never use the panel view anyway...i'm a frames fan =3D)

have you tested your compression via that site in my mail?  i'm
curious what kind of improvement you guys get.

/evan

On 4/28/06, Miles Beck <mil...@gm...> wrote:
> I just got the snapshot for today and enabled the option "list only
> feeds with unread items". And in my feeds list in the panel view I am
> still seeing feeds with no new articles in them. The Frames view seems
> to work fine. Gzip compression seems to have made a big difference in
> speed.
>
> Thanks for adding these options.
>
> -Miles
>
>
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[Fofredux-devel] New option in the snapshot

[Miles B. <mil...@gm...>]

I just got the snapshot for today and enabled the option "list only
feeds with unread items". And in my feeds list in the panel view I am
still seeing feeds with no new articles in them. The Frames view seems
to work fine. Gzip compression seems to have made a big difference in
speed.

Thanks for adding these options.

-Miles

Re: [Fofredux-devel] updated developer guide

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

as a hint, i'd go through the top 5-10 projects in sourceforge, and
take some ideas from their developer notes, whatever they may be
called.  most have very extensive, simlpy since they have been forced
to do so, as their projects are that busy.

On 4/28/06, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote:
> Thanks kevin. I think basic coding standards are good. As well as
> adding a discussion of Architecture, as Evan pointed out.
>
> I don't think I want to move to one of the larger frameworks - too big
> a learning curve for a comparitively small project. As we discussed on
> the email list ramping up to  0.4, we want to break-up init.php into
> an MVC (or similar) arch. This was what Katie & Kevin were semi-tasked
> with doing.
>
> Andrew
>
> On 4/28/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote:
> > generally i think it's important to update docs like this, but i think
> > the coding standards should really focus on how we want to do things.
> > if someone doesn't know most of those basics, then they don't belong
> > working a project like this.
> >
> > we should really use the developer guide to describe the MVC a bit
> > more.  i find myself following code way back through init.php way too
> > often.  i know this isn't our problem...as it comes from Steve and the
> > original FoF, and of course his project was a simple solution to his
> > simple problem.
> >
> > another smart option, if we wanted to take the time, would really be
> > to add a nice framework to this project.  init.php is simply getting
> > out of control.  Zend, CakePHP, symphony, WASP...i really don't know,
> > since i've never used any of them.
> >
> > Then we are really adding steps in the right direction, in terms of
> > professionality (and in the end, ease of use for devs).
> >
> > /evan
> >
> > On 4/28/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote:
> > > I updated the developer guide.
> > >
> > > * updated source control section for Subversion.
> > > * added section on coding standards.
> > >
> > > I think it could use a bit more in the coding standards section, but
> > > it's a good start.
> > >
> > > -Kevin
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, secur=
ity?
> > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your jo=
b easier
> > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Ger=
onimo
> > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&d=
at=3D121642
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Fofredux-devel mailing list
> > > Fof...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel
> > >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, securit=
y?
> > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job =
easier
> > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geron=
imo
> > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fofredux-devel mailing list
> > Fof...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel
> >
>
>
> --
> Andrew Turner
> ajt...@hi...        42.4266N x 83.4931W
> http://highearthorbit.com              Northville, Michigan, USA
>

Re: [Fofredux-devel] updated developer guide

[Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...>]

Thanks kevin. I think basic coding standards are good. As well as
adding a discussion of Architecture, as Evan pointed out.

I don't think I want to move to one of the larger frameworks - too big
a learning curve for a comparitively small project. As we discussed on
the email list ramping up to  0.4, we want to break-up init.php into
an MVC (or similar) arch. This was what Katie & Kevin were semi-tasked
with doing.

Andrew

On 4/28/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote:
> generally i think it's important to update docs like this, but i think
> the coding standards should really focus on how we want to do things.
> if someone doesn't know most of those basics, then they don't belong
> working a project like this.
>
> we should really use the developer guide to describe the MVC a bit
> more.  i find myself following code way back through init.php way too
> often.  i know this isn't our problem...as it comes from Steve and the
> original FoF, and of course his project was a simple solution to his
> simple problem.
>
> another smart option, if we wanted to take the time, would really be
> to add a nice framework to this project.  init.php is simply getting
> out of control.  Zend, CakePHP, symphony, WASP...i really don't know,
> since i've never used any of them.
>
> Then we are really adding steps in the right direction, in terms of
> professionality (and in the end, ease of use for devs).
>
> /evan
>
> On 4/28/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote:
> > I updated the developer guide.
> >
> > * updated source control section for Subversion.
> > * added section on coding standards.
> >
> > I think it could use a bit more in the coding standards section, but
> > it's a good start.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, securit=
y?
> > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job =
easier
> > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geron=
imo
> > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat=
=3D121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fofredux-devel mailing list
> > Fof...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel
> >
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job ea=
sier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronim=
o
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Fofredux-devel mailing list
> Fof...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel
>


--
Andrew Turner
ajt...@hi...        42.4266N x 83.4931W
http://highearthorbit.com              Northville, Michigan, USA

Re: [Fofredux-devel] updated developer guide

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

generally i think it's important to update docs like this, but i think
the coding standards should really focus on how we want to do things.=20
if someone doesn't know most of those basics, then they don't belong
working a project like this.

we should really use the developer guide to describe the MVC a bit
more.  i find myself following code way back through init.php way too
often.  i know this isn't our problem...as it comes from Steve and the
original FoF, and of course his project was a simple solution to his
simple problem.

another smart option, if we wanted to take the time, would really be
to add a nice framework to this project.  init.php is simply getting
out of control.  Zend, CakePHP, symphony, WASP...i really don't know,
since i've never used any of them.

Then we are really adding steps in the right direction, in terms of
professionality (and in the end, ease of use for devs).

/evan

On 4/28/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote:
> I updated the developer guide.
>
> * updated source control section for Subversion.
> * added section on coding standards.
>
> I think it could use a bit more in the coding standards section, but
> it's a good start.
>
> -Kevin
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job ea=
sier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronim=
o
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat=
=3D121642
> _______________________________________________
> Fofredux-devel mailing list
> Fof...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel
>

[Fofredux-devel] updated developer guide

[Kevin <ke...@dr...>]

I updated the developer guide.

* updated source control section for Subversion.
* added section on coding standards.

I think it could use a bit more in the coding standards section, but 
it's a good start.

-Kevin

Re: [Fofredux-devel] Updating files via svn

[Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...>]

You can just use the command line SVN to get and do anything you want,
like CVS.

A quick synopsis of SVN:

checkout:
:~/ $> svn co http://path_to_project/trunk local_dir

update
:~/project $> svn up

commit
:~/project $> svn commit file_to_commit

etc.

most of the commands are *very* similar or the same (for the command
name, flags differ) to CVS.
Here is a free book on Subversion:
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/


Andrew



On 4/27/06, Miles Beck <mil...@gm...> wrote:
> Maybe svn will be a little friendlier than cvs. Is there anything I
> need to set up other than have svn installed to get the latest files?
>
> What command would I use to grab the files from the repository?
>
> I'm impatient and want to check out the new changes, :)
>
> -Miles
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job ea=
sier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronim=
o
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Fofredux-devel mailing list
> Fof...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel
>


--
Andrew Turner
ajt...@hi...        42.4266N x 83.4931W
http://highearthorbit.com              Northville, Michigan, USA

[Fofredux-devel] Updating files via svn

[Miles B. <mil...@gm...>]

Maybe svn will be a little friendlier than cvs. Is there anything I
need to set up other than have svn installed to get the latest files?

What command would I use to grab the files from the repository?

I'm impatient and want to check out the new changes, :)

-Miles

Re: [Fofredux-devel] feature 1392185 enabled

[Miles B. <mil...@gm...>]

On 4/27/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote:
> please test the hell out of that...i'm always nervous when messing
> with sessions and stuff, since they always tend to have a long tail of
> stuff that gets impacted.

I'll check this out tomorrow when I get the development snapshot.

Awesome work.

-Miles

Re: [Fofredux-devel] feature 1392185 enabled

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

thanx.  then i can show my wife your mail, when she annoys me for not
giving her enough attention on the weekends =3D)

please test the hell out of that...i'm always nervous when messing
with sessions and stuff, since they always tend to have a long tail of
stuff that gets impacted.

On 4/27/06, Broken Kode <kha...@gm...> wrote:
> Just wanted to say that I'm ABSOLUTELY loving the login feature, nice
> simple to the point. Great work Evan, I'll hopefully be doing a bit of
> simple coding over the weekend, just the building blocks in the css file.
>
> Evan Roth wrote:
> > 1 more feature before i hit the sack...
> >
> > it was quick and easy, but now you can specify via the options.php to
> > only list feeds with unread items.
> >
> > i'd imagine this is useful for those users with lots and lots of feed
> > subscriptions and updates pretty often.  although, for me it's
> > personally kind of annoying the feeds are disappearing and reappearing
> > constantly, in the list.  but...someone wished for it, and now they
> > got it.
> >
> > it's a bit messy when all feeds are completely read, and the list is
> > then empty.  if there is a job which is updating quietly, no big
> > deal...otherwise the user needs to get to the full menu and update all
> > (kind of a mess).  but, i'm not going to worry about this yet, with a
> > pending UI redo, which would hopefully include a global update
> > somewhere.
> >
> > /evan
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, securit=
y?
> > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job =
easier
> > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geron=
imo
> > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fofredux-devel mailing list
> > Fof...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel
> >
> >
>
>

Re: [Fofredux-devel] feature 1392185 enabled

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

yeh...we need to make sure people are testing each other's
changes...since it's generally a bad idea to accept a dev who says it
works.

also...
features 1403108 and 1403106 seem to be completed.  someone could mark
them as such if this is true...</end clutter police>

night,
evan

On 4/27/06, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote:
> Awesome - thanks for hitting these Evan. I'll get to testing them out
> this weekend.
>
> Gute Nacht!
> Andrew
>
> On 4/27/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote:
> > 1 more feature before i hit the sack...
> >
> > it was quick and easy, but now you can specify via the options.php to
> > only list feeds with unread items.
> >
> > i'd imagine this is useful for those users with lots and lots of feed
> > subscriptions and updates pretty often.  although, for me it's
> > personally kind of annoying the feeds are disappearing and reappearing
> > constantly, in the list.  but...someone wished for it, and now they
> > got it.
> >
> > it's a bit messy when all feeds are completely read, and the list is
> > then empty.  if there is a job which is updating quietly, no big
> > deal...otherwise the user needs to get to the full menu and update all
> > (kind of a mess).  but, i'm not going to worry about this yet, with a
> > pending UI redo, which would hopefully include a global update
> > somewhere.
> >
> > /evan
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, securit=
y?
> > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job =
easier
> > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geron=
imo
> > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fofredux-devel mailing list
> > Fof...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel
> >
>
>
> --
> Andrew Turner
> ajt...@hi...        42.4266N x 83.4931W
> http://highearthorbit.com              Northville, Michigan, USA
>

Re: [Fofredux-devel] feature 1392185 enabled

[Broken K. <kha...@gm...>]

Just wanted to say that I'm ABSOLUTELY loving the login feature, nice 
simple to the point. Great work Evan, I'll hopefully be doing a bit of 
simple coding over the weekend, just the building blocks in the css file.

Evan Roth wrote:
> 1 more feature before i hit the sack...
>
> it was quick and easy, but now you can specify via the options.php to
> only list feeds with unread items.
>
> i'd imagine this is useful for those users with lots and lots of feed
> subscriptions and updates pretty often.  although, for me it's
> personally kind of annoying the feeds are disappearing and reappearing
> constantly, in the list.  but...someone wished for it, and now they
> got it.
>
> it's a bit messy when all feeds are completely read, and the list is
> then empty.  if there is a job which is updating quietly, no big
> deal...otherwise the user needs to get to the full menu and update all
> (kind of a mess).  but, i'm not going to worry about this yet, with a
> pending UI redo, which would hopefully include a global update
> somewhere.
>
> /evan
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
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Re: [Fofredux-devel] feature 1392185 enabled

[Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...>]

Awesome - thanks for hitting these Evan. I'll get to testing them out
this weekend.

Gute Nacht!
Andrew

On 4/27/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote:
> 1 more feature before i hit the sack...
>
> it was quick and easy, but now you can specify via the options.php to
> only list feeds with unread items.
>
> i'd imagine this is useful for those users with lots and lots of feed
> subscriptions and updates pretty often.  although, for me it's
> personally kind of annoying the feeds are disappearing and reappearing
> constantly, in the list.  but...someone wished for it, and now they
> got it.
>
> it's a bit messy when all feeds are completely read, and the list is
> then empty.  if there is a job which is updating quietly, no big
> deal...otherwise the user needs to get to the full menu and update all
> (kind of a mess).  but, i'm not going to worry about this yet, with a
> pending UI redo, which would hopefully include a global update
> somewhere.
>
> /evan
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[Fofredux-devel] feature 1392185 enabled

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

1 more feature before i hit the sack...

it was quick and easy, but now you can specify via the options.php to
only list feeds with unread items.

i'd imagine this is useful for those users with lots and lots of feed
subscriptions and updates pretty often.  although, for me it's
personally kind of annoying the feeds are disappearing and reappearing
constantly, in the list.  but...someone wished for it, and now they
got it.

it's a bit messy when all feeds are completely read, and the list is
then empty.  if there is a job which is updating quietly, no big
deal...otherwise the user needs to get to the full menu and update all
(kind of a mess).  but, i'm not going to worry about this yet, with a
pending UI redo, which would hopefully include a global update
somewhere.

/evan

[Fofredux-devel] gzipped output

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

Hey folks,

1 more day...1 more feature added...

you are now able to simply enable gzipping of output via the options
menu.  for those of you who are not on the same network as your FoFR
server, you'll get a major performance benefit with this option
enabled...increasingly with the amount of feeds you have.

if you want to see how much you are saving, enter the address to your
feeds here: http://www.whatsmyip.org/mod_gzip_test/   (not sure if
this will play nice with the login feature, so you may need to comment
that line out -- in header.php...the first one starting with an 'if')=20
for reference, on my feeds, with 30 items displayed, i am getting
about 60% compression.

todo sometime: set this up to use the zlib functionality, if we're on
a more recent php version...since it is even better compression.

note to devs:
this is all turned on in init.php, but i'm not sure how the output
buffer will play if there is some sort of text before it's turned
on...which is a chicken/egg problem, as we need the flag from the db,
but if we get an error going to the db, then we have some text sent
out.

/evan

Re: [Fofredux-devel] cache_time on feeds

[Evan R. <eva...@gm...>]

saw that...thanx.

do you have any idea how to eliminate this, i was playing with it last
week, and it seems pretty stubborn.

On 4/27/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote:
>
> added bug #1477023.
>
> > Evan Roth wrote:
> >> The cache_time has an attribute of 'ON UPDATE CURRENT_TIMESTAMP'.
> >> This is obviously new in redux, since the original FoF did not use
> >> cache_time.  i was doing some tests last night, and it seems that the
> >> first TIMESTAMP field in a table gets this attribute automagically
> >> from ADODB (which was also not included in FoF, iirc).
> >
> > This is mysql doing it, not ADODB_Lite.   If you enable FOF_DB_DEBUG,
> > you can see all the SQL sent to the database. I can reproduce this with
> > Mysql 4.1.11.  The first timestamp column added to a table gets this
> > attribute set.(ON UPDATE CURRENT_TIMESTAMP)  If I reverse publish_time
> > and cache_time in the table create statement, then publish_time get's
> > this *feature*, instead of cache_time.
> >
> > Have you created a bug for this yet?   I'll add it if I have time
> > today.**
> >
> > <...>
> >> one could argue that the cache_time is not important, since we have
> >> publish time...but often they are largely different for me:
> >> 1.  being in germany, and reading mostly stuff from the homeland...i
> >> am dealing with 6-9 hrs difference, which could not come through.
> >> ie.  published at 12:00 local time EST, but cached at 18:00 local time
> >> CET.
> > We convert all timestamps to GMT internally. (well, unix epoch seconds)
> > which should eliminate timezone problems, at least in the DB.  You can
> > configure what your local time offset is on the options page.   This is
> > used when timestamps are displayed on the view page.  We should probabl=
y
> > make this smarter by allowing a timezone string to be entered instead o=
f
> > an hour offset value.
> >> 2.  and the most important point for me...often times there is a delay
> >> from when content is published to when it shows up in an rss feed.
> >> hence, we get a new item 2 hrs after it was really published, and
> >> therefore, it won't show on the top of the list.
> >>
> >> i'd prefer to be able to sort my items by cache_time, rather than
> >> publish_time, to see the new items (to me!) always at the top.
> >>
> > Allowing the sort column to be configurable is on the feature list, I
> > think.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> >
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Re: [Fofredux-devel] SVN Question

[Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...>]

Yes, you're not a developer of the project, therefore you can't get to
the proper dev version of subversion. What is your SF username? I will
add you to the project.

Sorry I didn't notice that before.

Andrew