Re: [Fluxbox-users] java - new windows

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Hi Valter,

yeah, I am engaged on that thread now, too =) (I just posted a comment)

Thks for the help,

Andre

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:41:29 -0300
"Valter Toffolo" <va...@gm...> wrote:

> as i'm watching that bug report, i got notified about a reply, and i'm
> shamed to say it seems to be _really_ a java bug though there is a
> "fix" for it in fb side, and it has been already taken care of, and i
> feel bad for bringing that up again, though it makes me happy to help
> andre ;) for those who care please read the folowing thread
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1572489&group_id=35398&atid=413960
> though they show a way to "fix" fluxbox, i'd choose to switch to
> blackdown as mark said heheh
> for those who really need to use java 1.5, the "fix" shown in this
> thread could be valuable, i'm happy someone found that line =D
> that's it, sorry mark, and good luck andre!
> 
> 
> On 4/16/07, Andre Costa <and...@te...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Valter,
> >
> > On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:10:33 -0300
> > "Valter Toffolo" <va...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > > i agree, it might be a java problem, but if it works in other
> > > window managers, it's a fluxbox fault too. probably java is doing
> > > strange things one could not predict, but other window managers
> > > can handle it, why cant our window manager do it too?
> >
> > That's my point exactly, I think this should be looked into.
> >
> > I added a comment on this bug on SF.net.
> >
> > > maybe if i were a fluxbox
> > > developer and never use java apps i wouldn't bother fixing it,
> > > but i think fluxbox deserves the fix! i already tried to fix
> > > another fb bug but it wouldn't come to a happy end as i dont know
> > > fb code and structure and all, would take too long and i was busy
> > > and gave up. but maybe i could try again hehe or any of us, i
> > > believe there's a lot of developers among fb users...
> > > unfortunately most are always too busy =\
> >
> > Yeah, it would be great if anyone could take a look into it...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Andre
> >
> > >
> > > On 4/14/07, Andre Costa <and...@te...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mmmh... not sure it is so simple. Java 5 behaves correctly with
> > > > Metacity (all my co-workers use standard GNOME environment).
> > > > IMHO this deserves some further investigation, maybe there's
> > > > indeed some problem with fluxbox.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still insisting on using fluxbox on my development
> > > > environment, but current Java app behavior is a real PITA, and
> > > > this makes my life as a Java developer miserable =/ Upgrading
> > > > to Java 1.6 at work is not feasible in the short term due to
> > > > other technical issues, so it will be Java 5 for a little (?)
> > > > longer.
> > > >
> > > > I am not saying this isn't a Java bug; but, to be realistic,
> > > > Java upgrades come every once in a blue moon, it might be much
> > > > simpler dealing with it on fluxbox side (if at all possible).
> > > >
> > > > I hope fluxbox developers will listen to my plea and at least
> > > > give it a try ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Andre
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:44:49 -0300
> > > > "Valter Toffolo" <va...@gm...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > you're right, java is #*%&@^# imho heheh
> > > > > well, i submited a bug report at sf and mark closed it with
> > > > > this comment
> > > > >
> > > > > *Comments*
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Date: 2007-04-12 14:06
> > > > > Sender: mark-t <https://sourceforge.net/users/mark-t/>Logged
> > > > > In: YES user_id=1538990
> > > > > Originator: NO
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a Java bug. Switch to 1.6 or Blackdown.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > question settled ;)
> > > > > happy fluxboxing for everyone =D
> > > > >
> > > > > On 4/11/07, Andre Costa <and...@te...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:06:11 -0500
> > > > > > Lam <dn...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > This has definitely happened to me using various java
> > > > > > > apps. It's quite annoying.  I haven't experimented with
> > > > > > > those java apps using different WMs as I can't stand to
> > > > > > > be away from fluxbox.  :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, speaking of Java behaving bad, Beryl + Emerald makes
> > > > > > Java 6.0 behave _really_ crazy. Menus don't work, windows
> > > > > > don't resize and all sorts of craziness... despite all the
> > > > > > eye candy, Java 6 with Beryl is a real show-stopper.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (but that's OT for Fluxbox ML =) Just wanted to show that
> > > > > > Java-related problems are not exclusive to Fluxbox)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andre
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 4/11/07, Valter Toffolo <va...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > i noticed a problem with java applications, when it
> > > > > > > > opens some new window, all java windows belonging to
> > > > > > > > that application are iconified. it first happened with
> > > > > > > > a simple and unknown java application i download for
> > > > > > > > sending sms. now jude
> > > > > > > > ( http://jude.change-vision.com/jude-web/) is behaving
> > > > > > > > the same way and i just remembered jape
> > > > > > > > (http://jape.org.uk/) did that too. as these are the
> > > > > > > > only three java applications i already used, and i
> > > > > > > > tried with wmaker and it doesnt happen, i guess this is
> > > > > > > > a java/fluxbox problem. does it happen to you as well?
> > > > > > > > or never happened with any java app? or just with some
> > > > > > > > apps? is it a possible fb bug? no more questions ;)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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