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Re: [Flightgear-users] website forum.flightgear.org blocked for users from India

[Pankaj Kr S. <pk...@gm...>]

NO
I am asking about forum.flightgear.org please.

On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 2:19 PM <ajt...@v-...> wrote:

> https://wiki.flightgear.org had an out of date certificate last week.
> This seems to have been fixed.
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> Is this the url that you were trying to access?
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> On 26/08/2024 05:52, Pankaj Kr Sharma wrote:
> > Dear flightgear users,
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> > Can anyone answer why "Digital Ocean" has blocked help forum for users
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Re: [Flightgear-users] website forum.flightgear.org blocked for users from India

[<ajt...@v-...>]

https://wiki.flightgear.org had an out of date certificate last week. 
This seems to have been fixed.

Is this the url that you were trying to access?

On 26/08/2024 05:52, Pankaj Kr Sharma wrote:
> Dear flightgear users,
>
> Can anyone answer why "Digital Ocean" has blocked help forum for users 
> from India.
>
> with regards,
>
> Pankaj.
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Re: [Flightgear-users] website forum.flightgear.org blocked for users from India

[<ajt...@v-...>]

https://wiki.flightgear.org had an out of date certificate last week. 
This seems to have been fixed.

Is this the url that you were trying to access?

On 26/08/2024 05:52, Pankaj Kr Sharma wrote:
> Dear flightgear users,
>
> Can anyone answer why "Digital Ocean" has blocked help forum for users 
> from India.
>
> with regards,
>
> Pankaj.
>
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[Flightgear-users] website forum.flightgear.org blocked for users from India

[Pankaj Kr S. <pk...@gm...>]

Dear flightgear users,

Can anyone answer why "Digital Ocean" has blocked help forum for users from
India.

with regards,

Pankaj.

[Flightgear-users] Fwd: flightgear localization files

[Alan T. <ajt...@v-...>]

This appeared on Flightgear-users, so I have forwarded it here.

Alan



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Hello there. Can you update the Turkish translation files?

translations of the following are available in the archive file. thank you

FlightGear-nonQt.xlf

FlightGear-Qt.xlf

org.flightgear.FlightGear.desktop


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[Flightgear-users] flightgear localization files

[Serkan Ö. <ser...@ou...>]

Hello there. Can you update the Turkish translation files?

translations of the following are available in the archive file. thank you

FlightGear-nonQt.xlf

FlightGear-Qt.xlf

org.flightgear.FlightGear.desktop


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[Flightgear-users] Develop 3D modelling of flight display for Boeing 737-300_Query on Importing CSV Data file as Input to Flight Gear Simulator

[Arun R. <aru...@ne...>]

Dear Flight Gear Team,



I am Arun ,enthusiastic in learning Flight simulators and I like to develop 3D modelling of flight display on my own for Boeing 737-300 . I came across Flight Gear Simulator and have installed Flight 2018.3.5 along with aircraft,scenery database and proceeded with further analysis on Fly simulator screen noticed there is no menu and sub menu to import CSV data file which will be providing an input to Flight Gear Simulator .However, on the home screen there is "select data files location" and  "Flight Planning " sub menu ,it navigates to a screen of Aircraft & flight information and load button for "Fly with Flight Plan option" . In both the options not sure whether we can import CSV data file as input to Flight Gear Simulator . Based on the input CSV data file ,3d modelling of Flight display starts on runway,take off to landing by clicking on FLY button.



Points to be Noted :

  1.  Aircraft PFD(Primary flight display) and Engine warning display which should show correctly as per the CSV data input given and the display should be clearly comprehensible in terms of scale, pointers, numerical digital display and any warning lights.
  2.  Aircraft should respond to the CSV data input of roll angle changes(left&right), pitch angle(up/down) and turns as well.



Team kindly check this mail and require your suggestion/guidance to develop this 3D modelling of flight application for Boeing 737-300.



Thanks

Arun

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Forum registration help

[Edward d'A. <tru...@gm...>]

Hi Michael,

I am the moderator 'bugman' on the forum.  If you are IP blocked, then
there was a spam bot using your IP to spam the FlightGear forum.  Only spam
bot IP addresses are ever blocked - and I perform this action about 1-5
times a week.  Are you using VPN, TOR, or some other system to mask your IP
address when registering?  Could you also send your IP address and other
relevant information to me in private?  Although I do not have the access
to unblock IP addresses, I can forward your address in private to Curt and
Gijs to unblock it.  I can also look at what the spam bot with that IP
address was doing and when.  Also could you thoroughly check your system
for viruses and malware, as there could be a spam bot on your computer that
watched you access the forum, posted stuff there, and triggered your
blocking.

Regards,

Edward


On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 21:01, Michael Bunch via Flightgear-users <
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> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am a new user to flightgear, it is a fantastic software package and I
> would love to help with the project, however I can not register on the
> forum.  It says that my ip address is blacklisted, which is strange because
> I have had this ip for a very long time.  Please, please help me register.
> I do not know where else to turn.
>
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[Flightgear-users] Forum registration help

[Michael B. <mik...@ya...>]

Hi,

I am a new user to flightgear, it is a fantastic software package and I would love to help with the project, however I can not register on the forum.  It says that my ip address is blacklisted, which is strange because I have had this ip for a very long time.  Please, please help me register.  I do not know where else to turn.

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[Flightgear-users] P51D will Not complete installation after download

[supportdesk thetms.c. <sup...@th...>]

Could not get the P51-D to install via Flightgear download screen.  Manually downloaded and installed.  It shows up on the INSTALLED screen when starting FlightGear but when trying to fly receive error message that plane in snot installed or needs update.
Tried to update via Flightgear update screen but continue to get extract/install error.

Help!
Ron

[Flightgear-users] flightgear with screenreading software?

[daniel w. <dan...@ho...>]

    Good afternoon all,

I am a totally blind flightsim inthusiast who uses assistive 
technology(the NVDA screenreader in my case) to make computers 
accessible. I hadn't thought that flightgear was accessible to those of 
us who use screenreaders until I came accross some discussion on another 
list about a wiki page. Looking at that page, it seems to be outdated 
and doesn't really explain how the accessability works so I'm just 
wondering if anyone can shed any light on the current state of things 
with accessability?

Thanks for any help,


Daniel

[Flightgear-users] Fg2017 3.1

[akram m. <akr...@ho...>]

Hi
Please help me to set generic socket udp
In flightgear 2017 3.1

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Flightgear-users Digest, Vol 80, Issue 1

[Trennor T. <tre...@gm...>]

What's "official?" In a user-contributed forum like Flightgear, where
they're practically begging one to "help them out," and with no-one really
in charged, how can you have "official?" Aircraft can be changed at will,
computer code for the simulation itself can be contributed, scenery can be
changed, additions or deletions made, even by a savvy user who knows what
they're doing. Official? Don't make me laugh.

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Torrents for flightgear

[Kshitij T. <kti...@gm...>]

is this official ?

Regards,
Kshitij Tiwari

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[Flightgear-users] Torrents for flightgear

[Marisa G. <fs...@ya...>]

There is now a torrent for the large files, my server will be seeding them but other peers would be nice. Also, if you know of other files that should be there just let me know.

https://FlightgearJP.online/torrents

Marisa

Re: [Flightgear-users] Flightgear-users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1

[Marisa G. <fs...@ya...>]

Thanks! My saitek was detected and all I had to do was map controls the way I wanted. All good now!

Marisa

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> On Oct 29, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Trennor Turcotte <tre...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> Marisa, 
> 
> Go to your flightgear directory, (I'm not sure where Ubuntu puts it, but on my linux system it is in /usr/share/flightgear/) and then enter /Input directory. Inside there you will find a number of joystick configurations in /Joysticks, each its own manufacturer's directory. So for your Saitek, there is a directory for them containing eighteen different Saitek Js. Good luck! Hope this helps.
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-users] Flightgear-users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1

[Trennor T. <tre...@gm...>]

Marisa,

Go to your flightgear directory, (I'm not sure where Ubuntu puts it, but on
my linux system it is in /usr/share/flightgear/) and then enter /Input
directory. Inside there you will find a number of joystick configurations
in /Joysticks, each its own manufacturer's directory. So for your Saitek,
there is a directory for them containing eighteen different Saitek Js. Good
luck! Hope this helps.

Tren



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[Flightgear-users] Configuring my joystick

[Marisa G. <fs...@ya...>]

Hi, where do I go to configure my saitek joystick? I'm on Ubuntu 16.04...

Marisa

Re: [Flightgear-users] PLEASEA HELP WITH LIVE WEATHER (METARS)

[Larry <la...@ao...>]

Hi Alan

Thank you for your reply.  I have looked at both of the links you sent to me.  I am not a computer expert but have tried the one suggesting the command prompt --prop:/environment/params/real-world-weather-fetch=true 
It does not work for me – but then i am probably typing it in the wrong place.  Can you tell me at what point I should type this promp, or do I have to put it into a file/folder in the main programme ? Remember I am a computer idiot so please be precise step by step instructions if you can help me.

I hope you can help me as I always like to fly “live weather”.  The real weather in the UK can change dramatically over a 150 mile route.

I look forward to your help

Larry

From: Alan Teeder 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] PLEASEA HELP WITH LIVE WEATHER (METARS)


Also see this topic on the forum – it may be easier to follow.https://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=30136


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Re: [Flightgear-users] PLEASEA HELP WITH LIVE WEATHER (METARS)

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Also see this topic on the forum – it may be easier to follow.https://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=30136

Re: [Flightgear-users] PLEASEA HELP WITH LIVE WEATHER (METARS)

[Alan T. <ajt...@v-...>]

This thread on the devel mail list may help.
https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/mailman/message/35259022/

Alan

[Flightgear-users] PLEASEA HELP WITH LIVE WEATHER (METARS)

[Larry <la...@ao...>]

Hello



I hope someone can help me to configure my flight gear simulator.



I am a semi-retired pilot with a full instrument rating.  I was introduced to Flight Gear by a friend who said it was very good to maintain IR competency – especially ILS approaches in marginal 

cat 1 /2  weather conditions.



The problem I have is “Live Weather Data” (metar).



When I first downloaded flight gear I always received the metars for any airport I entered. But the it suddenly stopped and no matter what I try I can not get the live data back.



I am using windows 10,  flight gear 2016.2.1,  ASUS Nvidia GeForce  GTX750 Ti OC 2GB Gddr5 Graphics Card (which I am told is more than adequate to run Flight Gear. I have a continuous high speed internet connection.



I have tried uninstall and reinstall but the same thing happens. No Metar available.







I have tried to sort out the problem using command prompt.  However I am not an IT engineer and do not really know what I am doing.



I have tried command prompt “fgfs --prop:/environment/params/real-world-weather-fetch=true” but it just says fgfs not recognised.



But then I might be doing it  at the wrong time in the programme. I just am at a loss!!!!!



PLEASE HELP  !!



Remember I will need very step by step instructions if you know how to solve my problem.  Please send me any information you have to my e-mail direct    la...@ao...



I do hope someone can sort this for me.    MANY THANKS    larry

Re: [Flightgear-users] Hardware recommendations for multi-screen sim

[Arnt K. <ar...@ia...>]

On Sat, 21 May 2016 23:18:09 +0100, Viktor wrote in message 
<CAN...@ma...>:

> Hi Arnt,
> 
> Thanks for the FPV suggestion. I have considered it before but decided
> against it. The requirement is to build a realistic two-seat ASK21

..to train instructors?  2 seats makes good sense then.
To train student pilots, you only need the students part 
of the cockpit, the instructor can do the instruction over 
the net like we did on the net fly-ins.  In the same room,
use a screen for every view you|the club etc wanna see,
you're only limited by the hardware you have handy. ;o)

> cockpit with linked flight controls at their correct location and
> working instrument panels. 

...with tangible switches etc that you touch even in the dark.  
No conflict there, fpv/vr goggles will yield even more realistic 
views than your 8 screen cage, once you track your hands etc.

> With the FPV goggles I assume that you
> won't be able to see what your hands are doing, and I'm certain that
> the instructor in the back won't be able to see what the student in
> the front is doing either. These two problems make a head-mount
> display unsuitable for the club 

..you of course will need to track (and show or simulate) _anything_ 
you wanna show on your screen(s), e.g. using web cameras to track 
hands and feet, using e.g. gstreamer to overlay webcam video on FG 
video, or model, track and/or simulate said hands and feet and show
everything in FG.

> but I might get one for myself at
> some point as it sounds pretty good for home use.

..the sooner the better, will help you make a better simulator. :o)

..but do try before you buy, e.g. my HPHD in a wonderful idea, 72 degree
FOV and a nice big 1280x800 screen, totally destroyed by requiring me to
squint at the screen at 22cm.  
Use ~4.5+ reading glasses to focus at the horizon if you have perfect vision.

> Cheers,
> Vik
> 
> On 19 May 2016 at 21:16, Arnt Karlsen <ar...@ia...> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:08:38 +0100, Viktor wrote in message
> > <CANx-tGj71MVJqa9+cDP4U_PBtVtjGM=ffB...@ma...>:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm planning to build a glider simulator for my gliding club, to
> > > be used for instruction. Since gliders have great visibility from
> > > the cockpit, the plan would be to use multiple projectors to
> > > display as much of the view as possible, not only out to the
> > > sides but top and bottom as well. I'm guestimating that this
> > > would require using up to 8 projectors. The projectors I have in
> > > mind have 1280x800 pixel native resolution.
> >
> >
> > ..an alternative idea: FPV "VR" goggles with head tracking, e.g.
> >
> > http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__97842__Quanum_DIY_FPV_Goggle_V2_Pro.html
> > plus
> >
> > http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__90078__Quanum_DIY_FPV_Goggle_V2_Add_On_Kit.html
> >
> > ...or cheaper and higher resolution goggles from e.g.:
> > http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-FPV-System--c-2734.html
> >
> > ...or use your cell phone with https://vr.google.com/cardboard/ ;o)
> >
> > ..the bonus is you'll have a compact system that fits _every_ plane
> > modelled in FlightGear, not just the one 8 screen glider cave you
> > build at your glider club.
> >
> >
> > ..word of caution: Some _buggy_ FPV goggles like HeadPlay HD makes
> > you focus on the screen at e.g. 220mm, rather than at the horizon,
> > e.g. I need +4.5 reading glasses in my HPHD and I can fly out 5km
> > LOS (line-of-sight) and still see 5cm thick wings.
> > Verify your goggles has you focus on the horizon, and you'll enjoy
> > them.
> >
> > > The first of many problems is that I have last built a desktop PC
> > > around 2002 (been using laptops since) and thus have no hands-on
> > > experience with modern gaming hardware. What configuration should
> > > I go for? One high end machine stuffed with cards to provide all
> > > the displays? Multiple networked display slaves? How many
> > > displays per machine? What graphics cards should I go for? What
> > > would provide acceptable performance in this setup?
> > >
> > > Also has anyone implemented projector edge blending using
> > > Flightgear before? Unless anyone has better ideas I was thinking
> > > about using Linux with a flexible window manager such as
> > > Windowmaker to overlay a transparent OpenGL window on each
> > > display to provide the mask while keeping the input focus on
> > > Flightgear. The overlay would be a small custom OpenGL program
> > > that loads some kind of image (which I would edit in Gimp). The
> > > overlay would cause a performance penalty but having tried it on
> > > my laptop I've found it to be only about 5fps at 1920x1200
> > > resolution.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. I realise that building a
> > > spherical display system like this has numerous challenges to
> > > overcome. I was planning on getting one PC and maybe three
> > > projectors initially, then play around with the alignment and
> > > masking. Then if we decide that it isn't feasible, we can always
> > > fall back to a more traditional three or 5 projector arch. I'm
> > > asking for hardware recommendations in advance so I don't end up
> > > buying kit we would not be able to use in the end.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help in advance.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Vik


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Re: [Flightgear-users] Hardware recommendations for multi-screen sim

[Viktor R. <vik...@gm...>]

Hi Arnt,

Thanks for the FPV suggestion. I have considered it before but decided
against it. The requirement is to build a realistic two-seat ASK21 cockpit
with linked flight controls at their correct location and working
instrument panels. With the FPV goggles I assume that you won't be able to
see what your hands are doing, and I'm certain that the instructor in the
back won't be able to see what the student in the front is doing either.
These two problems make a head-mount display unsuitable for the club but I
might get one for myself at some point as it sounds pretty good for home
use.

Cheers,
Vik

On 19 May 2016 at 21:16, Arnt Karlsen <ar...@ia...> wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:08:38 +0100, Viktor wrote in message
> <CANx-tGj71MVJqa9+cDP4U_PBtVtjGM=ffB...@ma...>:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm planning to build a glider simulator for my gliding club, to be
> > used for instruction. Since gliders have great visibility from the
> > cockpit, the plan would be to use multiple projectors to display as
> > much of the view as possible, not only out to the sides but top and
> > bottom as well. I'm guestimating that this would require using up to
> > 8 projectors. The projectors I have in mind have 1280x800 pixel
> > native resolution.
>
>
> ..an alternative idea: FPV "VR" goggles with head tracking, e.g.
>
> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__97842__Quanum_DIY_FPV_Goggle_V2_Pro.html
> plus
>
> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__90078__Quanum_DIY_FPV_Goggle_V2_Add_On_Kit.html
>
> ...or cheaper and higher resolution goggles from e.g.:
> http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-FPV-System--c-2734.html
>
> ...or use your cell phone with https://vr.google.com/cardboard/ ;o)
>
> ..the bonus is you'll have a compact system that fits _every_ plane
> modelled in FlightGear, not just the one 8 screen glider cave you
> build at your glider club.
>
>
> ..word of caution: Some _buggy_ FPV goggles like HeadPlay HD makes
> you focus on the screen at e.g. 220mm, rather than at the horizon,
> e.g. I need +4.5 reading glasses in my HPHD and I can fly out 5km
> LOS (line-of-sight) and still see 5cm thick wings.
> Verify your goggles has you focus on the horizon, and you'll enjoy
> them.
>
> > The first of many problems is that I have last built a desktop PC
> > around 2002 (been using laptops since) and thus have no hands-on
> > experience with modern gaming hardware. What configuration should I
> > go for? One high end machine stuffed with cards to provide all the
> > displays? Multiple networked display slaves? How many displays per
> > machine? What graphics cards should I go for? What would provide
> > acceptable performance in this setup?
> >
> > Also has anyone implemented projector edge blending using Flightgear
> > before? Unless anyone has better ideas I was thinking about using
> > Linux with a flexible window manager such as Windowmaker to overlay a
> > transparent OpenGL window on each display to provide the mask while
> > keeping the input focus on Flightgear. The overlay would be a small
> > custom OpenGL program that loads some kind of image (which I would
> > edit in Gimp). The overlay would cause a performance penalty but
> > having tried it on my laptop I've found it to be only about 5fps at
> > 1920x1200 resolution.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be appreciated. I realise that building a
> > spherical display system like this has numerous challenges to
> > overcome. I was planning on getting one PC and maybe three projectors
> > initially, then play around with the alignment and masking. Then if
> > we decide that it isn't feasible, we can always fall back to a more
> > traditional three or 5 projector arch. I'm asking for hardware
> > recommendations in advance so I don't end up buying kit we would not
> > be able to use in the end.
> >
> > Thanks for your help in advance.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Vik
>
>
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Re: [Flightgear-users] Hardware recommendations for multi-screen sim

[Arnt K. <ar...@ia...>]

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:08:38 +0100, Viktor wrote in message 
<CANx-tGj71MVJqa9+cDP4U_PBtVtjGM=ffB...@ma...>:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm planning to build a glider simulator for my gliding club, to be
> used for instruction. Since gliders have great visibility from the
> cockpit, the plan would be to use multiple projectors to display as
> much of the view as possible, not only out to the sides but top and
> bottom as well. I'm guestimating that this would require using up to
> 8 projectors. The projectors I have in mind have 1280x800 pixel
> native resolution.


..an alternative idea: FPV "VR" goggles with head tracking, e.g.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__97842__Quanum_DIY_FPV_Goggle_V2_Pro.html
plus 
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__90078__Quanum_DIY_FPV_Goggle_V2_Add_On_Kit.html

...or cheaper and higher resolution goggles from e.g.:
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-FPV-System--c-2734.html

...or use your cell phone with https://vr.google.com/cardboard/ ;o)

..the bonus is you'll have a compact system that fits _every_ plane 
modelled in FlightGear, not just the one 8 screen glider cave you 
build at your glider club.


..word of caution: Some _buggy_ FPV goggles like HeadPlay HD makes
you focus on the screen at e.g. 220mm, rather than at the horizon,
e.g. I need +4.5 reading glasses in my HPHD and I can fly out 5km
LOS (line-of-sight) and still see 5cm thick wings.  
Verify your goggles has you focus on the horizon, and you'll enjoy 
them.

> The first of many problems is that I have last built a desktop PC
> around 2002 (been using laptops since) and thus have no hands-on
> experience with modern gaming hardware. What configuration should I
> go for? One high end machine stuffed with cards to provide all the
> displays? Multiple networked display slaves? How many displays per
> machine? What graphics cards should I go for? What would provide
> acceptable performance in this setup?
> 
> Also has anyone implemented projector edge blending using Flightgear
> before? Unless anyone has better ideas I was thinking about using
> Linux with a flexible window manager such as Windowmaker to overlay a
> transparent OpenGL window on each display to provide the mask while
> keeping the input focus on Flightgear. The overlay would be a small
> custom OpenGL program that loads some kind of image (which I would
> edit in Gimp). The overlay would cause a performance penalty but
> having tried it on my laptop I've found it to be only about 5fps at
> 1920x1200 resolution.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated. I realise that building a
> spherical display system like this has numerous challenges to
> overcome. I was planning on getting one PC and maybe three projectors
> initially, then play around with the alignment and masking. Then if
> we decide that it isn't feasible, we can always fall back to a more
> traditional three or 5 projector arch. I'm asking for hardware
> recommendations in advance so I don't end up buying kit we would not
> be able to use in the end.
> 
> Thanks for your help in advance.
> 
> Cheers,
> Vik


-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.